Canada elected a shitbag progressive-liberal-socialist from fucking Quebec.  



Yeah, Canada fucked up.  Big time.  No argument there.  NONE.



Point being:  Don't make the same stupid mistake that we (not I) made.  



I am a man determined to be free, and I voted for freedom.  



Seriously ask yourself:  Of every viable candidate in the running, does Donald Trump best represent the idea of 'freedom' to you?  



 

"What they fear about Trump" is that he's an outsider who's not under their control.

They'd rather lose the election with one of their own than win with someone who isn't under their control and who has actually been chosen by the voters.

Now that the GOPe PACs have been tasked with destroying Trump we'll be seeing lots of the sorts of stuff highlighted in the OP all over the media including the social media.

It's not going to work.

All I know is that I will vote for anyone as long as it's not bernie or hillary.

I remain entirely confident that you, as a LOGICAL, THINKING person will finally come to the same conclusion that the rest of us LOGICAL, THINKING people have already come to.  



 

Everyone of these clowns will give us a different flavor of fascism.  No matter who wins the Orwellian state will triple in the next 4 years.  That's the one thing they all agree on.

Enjoy.

Add Trump's name to the list and I agree.

LF

He's trying to warn us.  Hell, the Canucks learned from our mistakes in 2008 and 2012... at least for a while.

We've done these threads before (and some people rather ineloquently spam them), but Trump has changed positions as soon as it's convenient - he's just found a vein to tap and he's going for it.

Supporters are casting their hopes on him as an outsider when most of the GOP field running is composed of outsiders - and more importantly outsiders who have track records.

Look up Trump's opinion of the SCOTUS Kelo decision - the one that allows government to condemn and eminent domain property in order to resell it to developers in order to generate tax revenue "for the good of the community".  Trump said he supported it 100% - because that's how he built businesses with govt force.

Trump's just managed to tap into anger at the Republicans that's now being redirected at candidates who aren't establishment.  Ben Carson and Ted Cruz aren't establishment (Cruz had to primary and incumbent out); neither are Fiorina or a half dozen others (most of whom have faded now).  Trump's just cashing in on image, and he's cashing in on anger that people like Lindsey Graham and Jeb Bush certainly fucking deserve - but anger undeserved by the other candidates who really are conservative, though.

It's worth it to remember who the guy is:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/08/19/donald-trumps-abuse-of-eminent-domain/

Donald Trump, with the possible exception of Ted Cruz, is the ONLY candidate coming within a mile of speaking the truth about ANY of the issues that matter.

ALL the rest are scared of their shadows, the MSM, the RNC and the SJW's.

FUCK THEM.

This is a straight up Trump / Cruz fight, and I really hope they wind up running mates.

Then, once elected, Ted resigns and become Chief Justice.

Nader 2016!

Are you the Canadian that accused us in the States of not knowing our Constitution?

I am so tired of people using the term fascist to describe anyone they don't like.

If you are too lazy to do some reading on your own, here are the five tenets of fascism.

1- Unlike social Darwinism in which all life is a struggle between social classes, or international socialism that believes all life can be reduced to a struggle between the owners and the proletariat, national socialism reduces all life to a struggle between race-based nation states. Like Darwinism, race-based nation states are locked in a struggle for living space, resources, etc, and the most fit will survive and thrive.

2- Under fascism, the nation state is always at war. Since the nation is never at peace, treason - real or imagined - is the ultimate crime, and there are multiple and overlapping police forces to root it out.

3- Like the Spartans, the fascist state is socialist, because all resources must be harnessed by the government to support the war effort. But this isn't international socialism, but national socialism. The industrialists still make money, there is private property rights, but there are no strikes because the state harmonizes labor and capital.

4- The fascist state is organized along the lines of corporatism. Think of a pyramid with a truncated top.  There are unions, there are industrialists, as well as other guilds and bodies that compose the state, but at the top the national government arbitrates all disputes.

5- There is a dictatorship, but because there is little participatory input from the people, and because the ruling party all powerful (having suffocated civil society) the government is always unstable. Think of the all palace intrigue and jockeying for power that is going on within the party.

So, in summary, you need a philosophy of a "master race" (or "chosen people"), the identification of scapegoat lesser races like the Chinese, the Jews, or the Palestinians, the transformation of a country in a Sparta-like armed camp, the transformation of the economy to a constant wartime footing, constant wars of conquest for living space/occupied territories, an unstable dictatorship, a national security state, and corporatism.

Try as you might, you can't turn Trump into Tojo or Mussolini.

Try making him into Lex Luthor. It might be easier.

And, please, do your homework.

I'm not of your ilk in any way shape,  or form, and I can live with that.


ETA: quite a few Americans, myself among them, don't tolerate being hectored by foreigners on how to vote in American Elections.

OP is a DEMOCRAT OPPERATIVE!  Ain't fooling me none, keep trying though  I like to see people make a fool of themselves.
       

It is cough cough Hugh cough cough.

Capitalists can be fascist/communist or whatever. Socialism is for controlling the little people, look how rich Cuba's Castros' are.
That being said, I don't think Trump's a fascist.

Do you own a treadmill by chance?

I would agree, except to say that I think Cruz would be the absolute best choice right now; and that if elected, the only reason that America would become more 'Orwellian' under President Cruz would be because the American people themselves are broken, not the President himself.  



Cruz 2016.  



 

Not sure about that, people might get upset their candidate didn't get the nomination but it seems nobody is all that opposed to voting for Trump if he gets the nod. I'm curious if the GOP will cut his throat to keep him from winning the general election though.

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Seems like the title to this thread just changed. Imagine that.

Seeing as how the closest thing to an "establishment" candidate right now is Rubio, I think the GOP might be getting the message a bit.

OP is getting his ass fed to him.

Duh.

Since The Donald has the money to tell the establishment to get fucked, and has threatened to go third party if they pull their usual shit, they are TERRIFIED of him.

All is right in the world.

Most of the electorate would likely fit the definition of "low information voter."  Whoever wins will be the one who can bring out the most LIV on election day.

Trump is a garden-variety demagogue. To call him a fascist would imply that he has some sort of coherent ideology.

Nevertheless, I'm beginning to warm to the guy. He would throw a monkey wrench into the whole works. Maybe what this country needs is a round of "creative destruction." Obama clearly was not destructive enough.

There was once a time when I called you a "dumb fuck" and I can't believe I'm agreeing with you on something, but here we are.  I'm agreeing with you on this.

Both major parties have been leading us down the path of fascism.

Pretty sure he did that "no 3rd party pledge".  I'd hope he sticks to it if he loses.

If he does go 3rd party, all that does is split the R vote and mean the country gets Hillary or Bernie.


That sounds more like the kind of guy who's totally okay with burning other people to get what he wants... theme, perhaps?  Not exactly "making America great" by saying "I'll fuck the whole country over if you don't pick me!"


Don't forget who he was before he decided to develop a specific brand for this election cycle.


If he wins, though, I'll still vote for him despite his flaws.

More like a dead man switch, in case the GOPe goes Nuclear.

"You go there, we ALL DIE!"

No one in the GOP is a conservative. They don't exist. Every single candidate in the GOP is shit.  

In fact the GOP establishment is such utter shit that the TOP 2 fucking candidates are both NOT politicians. People are so fed up they are willing to elect a doctor and a businessman over people who "know how to govern".

If that doesn't show you how dead the crony democrat buddy buddy status quo elites in the GOP are, I don't know what to tell you.

The GOP is so fucking bad that they let democrats get elected by not supporting funding tea party and real conservatives.  They would rather keep their grip on the party than actually win elections and see the change they all lie they want. Same old fat cat piece of shit politicians, and fools keep thinking "my guy" is different.

If anything guys like Trump and Carson break the cycle. Something that needs to happen if right wingers don't want every right slowly stripped away by the left, the socialists and their own GOP.  Cruz, Ryan, Rubio...just more of the same old shit. Look at their actual voting records and they all are shit. While sucking democrat cocks behind closed doors.

Atleast with Trump at the helm, this country will no longer be a joke diplomatically. You really think mother fuckers are going to test our patience with him at the helm. I would re-enlist tomorrow if he gets elected.

Hear it all the time from all of you.  

We need someone from outside the establishment who will say what needs to be said.

We need a candidate that isn't financed by the same old donors who control them.  

We don't need another professional politician.  

Blah blah blah blah


Well look here we finally have a self made man who speaks his mind and what do you old cronies do?  Bash him over and over again for being all the things you supposedly wanted in a candidate.  

Yeah he's loud, brash and could definitely tone the rhetoric down but at the moment he's looking like our guy so why the hell keep bashing the guy???

I know of a lot of lifelong Democrat voters who like Trump but don't even know who Cruz is.  It's the centric voters who sway elections and I believe Trump could do it.

Can you explain to me how that will make America great again?

Oh and to call the guy a Fascist is ignorant.  

Capitalism doesn't equal Fascism and he's obviously very much a Capitalist so I guess Kasich is just talking out of his ass.

Probably Putin

That's not even on the menu.

We're currently just trying to stave off total collapse.

Kasich is a sock puppet for the GOPe which is talking and stalking Trump through him.

I like Trump.



Read his book, "Art of the Deal" as a college boy.



I want my country back.  That's enough for me.

I now pronounce you man and wife; a perfect marriage of the minds.

Many happy years together.

Calling Trump a Fascist would imply that he has some sort of internally consistent political philosophy.


That is certainly not the case.

 
So if the general election is Trump vs Hillary, will you vote for her or sit at home and let her win?


OH MY GOD...HILLARY AS PRESIDENT. Give that some thought.

There's leadership in the GOP?

That's new

The "grown-ups" in the GOP?  LOL.  Fascists calling Trump a Fascist.  



 

Ayup. A self made billionaire instead of people who couldn't make it in the real world (politicans).

It seems like there are lots of the same puppets here.  

Look I prefer Cruz but damn why can't we stop this petty fighting inside our own party.

A vote for Trump equals a vote for Hillary!?!?!?   That's the biggest pile of horseshit.  What in the world could make anyone of reasonable intelligence say that?  In every poll he beats her in a general election.  Oh you're worried he might say something that needs to be said?  Damn right THEY are worried but why are you??

Trump might be a lot of things and while he isn't a true conservative, oh and BTW who the hell is these days, he's a hell of a lot closer than that fatass Christie is.  

I'm so sick and tired of the same old bunch of crap.  Every election cycle erodes more and more of our rights and freedoms.   One day it has to stop.  Something has to change.  You really believe some rino like Kasich will bring about real change?  Or Jeb, or Rubio, or etc etc.   No they will not.  They are funded and controlled the same way that all the others are.  

George Soros is worth about 5x what Donald Trump is.  Should we make him President on that basis?

Honestly, I'm not gonna start worrying until June or July. Right now I'm worried about the current petulant child in the White House. Cause that shit is far from over.

I don't know that Trump would run 3rd party.  IIRC he said he wouldn't.

Unless I misunderstand, you seem to think he would, and as an intentional strike back at the GOP... which would split the vote, elect Hillary or Bernie, and ultimately harm the country.

Why would that kind of action be a desirable trait in a candidate?

Yet they have only nice things to say about Obama. This wont hurt Trump at all. People are tired of GOP establishment bullshit.

Certainly don't think I've heard Cruz say nice things about Obama.