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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:19:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's why the media company he works for gets hired by gun companies, although he does say in the video they purchased the M1A and it wasn't provided to them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are so many people that buy anything he makes a video on. He's the ultimate person for a company to sponsor in the gun world imo. That's why the media company he works for gets hired by gun companies, although he does say in the video they purchased the M1A and it wasn't provided to them. I have to admit I kind of wanted one after watching the video. He does a good job and I enjoy watching his videos. I was surprised to see a lot of the Gun Tubers belong to the same group. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:24:17 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I really want one of the new tankers. Just a lot of coin I really like mine. Fit and finish is fantastic and it shoots great. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:27:13 PM EST
[#3]
I have an m14 (okay an m1a-dumb name) in my stack of unfired guns ;p
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:30:57 PM EST
[#4]
I tried a shorty version. It worked fine but just wasn’t for me. Decently accurate with the 2x. I just like the .308 ARs better.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:31:11 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Those numbers from Gus seem to coincide with what I remember him saying. He was a treasure on the other forum. Sorry he stopped posting. Hope he is doing ok. I also remember him saying they got the M14 competition rifles of the day down to an acceptance standard of a 10 shot group into 2.5” at 300 yards. This was of course done in a machine rest to eliminate variables. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: FWIW, Retired MGySgt Gus Fisher stated over on the M14 forum that a USGI M14 receiver would last between 400,000-450,000 rds, depending on the manufacturer (he said TRWs last longer than the others). As for the cast vs. forged debate; I think he said a cast SA,Inc receiver would go for about 250,000 rds before shitting the bed. That’s a lot of barrel changes. Since I don’t foresee spending a quarter of a million dollars on shooting ammo through any of my rifles, I think I’m ok with a quality cast M14-type receiver like Fulton or SA,Inc., even though I don’t currently own anything but forged. An older 1980s M1A with USGI parts is in my future just to have one. Those numbers from Gus seem to coincide with what I remember him saying. He was a treasure on the other forum. Sorry he stopped posting. Hope he is doing ok. I also remember him saying they got the M14 competition rifles of the day down to an acceptance standard of a 10 shot group into 2.5” at 300 yards. This was of course done in a machine rest to eliminate variables. I always enjoyed reading his posts. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:33:10 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an m14 (okay an m1a-dumb name) in my stack of unfired guns ;p You’re out west now; go shoot it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:37:23 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are so many people that buy anything he makes a video on. He's the ultimate person for a company to sponsor in the gun world imo. he does say it has some problems, and its one of the few guns due to that he will say buy. he also said part of it is due to it coming largely from the M1 being his favorite. they have a M21 video planned soon. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:40:33 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a guy trying to qualify long distance with a brand new Springfield in 6.5 creedmoor, north of 8 rounds it started to have an occasional hangfire. At the 14 round count, every other round was a hangfire. Sadly he couldn’t qualify that day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A Springfield M1A was my first centerfire rifle. It didn’t always go bang when I pulled the trigger nor leave any indication of a light strike on the primer… I sold it.  There was a guy trying to qualify long distance with a brand new Springfield in 6.5 creedmoor, north of 8 rounds it started to have an occasional hangfire. At the 14 round count, every other round was a hangfire. Sadly he couldn’t qualify that day. I've had hangfires. I know exactly why even, and can repeat it on demand. But the gun had nothing to do with it - it was weak primers combined with a high-void load. Aside from some sort of delayed trigger issue, I don't see how the gun can cause a hangfire |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:42:22 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: he does say it has some problems, and its one of the few guns due to that he will say buy. he also said part of it is due to it coming largely from the M1 being his favorite. they have a M21 video planned soon. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are so many people that buy anything he makes a video on. He's the ultimate person for a company to sponsor in the gun world imo. he does say it has some problems, and its one of the few guns due to that he will say buy. he also said part of it is due to it coming largely from the M1 being his favorite. they have a M21 video planned soon. The issues are2-4 moa and jams due to a bridged rail |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 3:59:41 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: …and just like that, M1As became cool again… They were always cool to me. 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:02:16 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The issues are2-4 moa and jams due to a bridged rail Yeah, that's what GT said. I want one, but I want to deck it out as an EBR like what we had in Iraq and Afghanistan. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:03:31 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One would hope things improved over 50 years later. But don’t think the M14 for all its decrepit features doesn’t still work and work very well in the hands of someone that understands the rifle. They did and they still do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lol no thanks. The SCAR exists. Objectively better in every way but the M1A is pretty cool, possibly the coolest of the Cold War era battle rifles. One would hope things improved over 50 years later. But don’t think the M14 for all its decrepit features doesn’t still work and work very well in the hands of someone that understands the rifle. They did and they still do. I don’t think that at all and my comment wasn’t meant to be disparaging. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:04:23 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have an m14 (okay an m1a-dumb name) in my stack of unfired guns ;p Careful, you’re gonna summon the ghost of LarryG! |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:05:52 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re probably talking to a wall. I’d be willing to bet he has experience with neither. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lol no thanks. The SCAR exists. I've shot them both. I'll take an M1A Scout over a SCAR all day long. Be aware, I'm not talking an M1A. I'm talking the M1A Scout - it just handles and runs much more pleasant. I don't like the look, but love the gun. You’re probably talking to a wall. I’d be willing to bet he has experience with neither. Own a SCAR, shot an M1A. Yeah, no thanks lol I guess if you’re nostalgic for old stuff and have experience behind the trigger, the M1A can be fun. I have range toys too - SP5 and Marlin 1894. The Ohio Ordinance HCAR is on my bucket list for a heavy battle rifle that’s devoid of purpose. I’d rather just save for one of those. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:49:54 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fun fact: the California-legal muzzle brake makes the rifle shoot softer, smoother than the slotted USGI flash hider. But the slotted flash hider turns the gun into a felonious "AsSuAlt weAPoN" in Ca....Old pic: two 100% USGI beauties from the early 1990's https://i.imgur.com/ta5zmu6h.jpg  |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:53:34 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Give ya 750 for it right now. St. Nicholas |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 4:57:48 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace janky commercial parts with USGI parts. Then add a suppressor and tune the gas system with a Schuster adj. M1A plug. Then you can be Johnny Strong:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxd3jziqkAEQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Popped up on YT this morning and gave it a watch. I spit coffee everywhere at 5:10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx0sg1xg7isReplace janky commercial parts with USGI parts. Then add a suppressor and tune the gas system with a Schuster adj. M1A plug. Then you can be Johnny Strong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxd3jziqkAEHe ran a socom in that movie. But the dude has a shit ton of m1a in his real life as well. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:05:31 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: …and just like that, M1As became cool again… It never stopped being cool……. 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:08:33 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've wanted one since seeing that movie. If I could get one of these that'd accept a direct thread suppressor, I'd be all over it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Replace janky commercial parts with USGI parts. Then add a suppressor and tune the gas system with a Schuster adj. M1A plug. Then you can be Johnny Strong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxd3jziqkAEI've wanted one since seeing that movie. If I could get one of these that'd accept a direct thread suppressor, I'd be all over it. Someone makes, or made, a threaded extension, IIRC. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:11:11 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that's what GT said. I want one, but I want to deck it out as an EBR like what we had in Iraq and Afghanistan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The issues are2-4 moa and jams due to a bridged rail Yeah, that's what GT said. I want one, but I want to deck it out as an EBR like what we had in Iraq and Afghanistan. I just want a tanker. I don't want to mess with it at all |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:15:34 PM EST
[#21]
Definitely the worst Garand Thumb video I've seen. "People will buy an M1A and swap out the barrel for something good like a Fulton". Really? Barrels are rarely swapped because they are a PAI to install. Are Fulton barrels even that great.
I know SA, Inc M1As aren't the best, but a standard is pretty comparable to a rack grade M14. 2-3 MOA is pretty dang good for a battle rifle like that. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:16:25 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just want a tanker. I don't want to mess with it at all I would want one for nostalgia. Plus they still look futuristic to me. 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 5:54:38 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace janky commercial parts with USGI parts. Then add a suppressor and tune the gas system with a Schuster adj. M1A plug. Then you can be Johnny Strong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxd3jziqkAEI did all of this over 20 years ago. I wanted a suppressed M1a. I have an older Doc Dater designed AWC suppressor and a 90's vintage M1a |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:41:06 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I just want a tanker. I don't want to mess with it at all  |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:43:24 PM EST
[#25]
Liberals are scared of any gun with a detachable magazine.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:45:30 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got my SOCOM II because it was fun in Battlefield, and was worried they would come down hard on other "scary" rifles while leaving the M1A alone I tried to sell it at a shop recently but they wouldn't give me more than $700 Hopefully it was just the shop you went to and they were trying to lowball you, though I haven't priced mine in a while. I have the S2 with the extended rail and last I looked it had increased. If not then guess I'll just suffer and keep it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:47:52 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anybody shot a tanker ? Accuracy ? Felt recoil ? https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/prodimages/89381-DEFAULT-l.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I just want a tanker. I don't want to mess with it at all Light recoiling and very enjoyable to shoot.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:49:49 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The issues are2-4 moa and jams due to a bridged rail Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: There are so many people that buy anything he makes a video on. He's the ultimate person for a company to sponsor in the gun world imo. he does say it has some problems, and its one of the few guns due to that he will say buy. he also said part of it is due to it coming largely from the M1 being his favorite. they have a M21 video planned soon. The issues are2-4 moa and jams due to a bridged rail Underwhelming accuracy, challenges mounting optics, optics can compromise reliability, mags are expensive, it's not easy to suppress, and the rifle costs almost $2k. There are definitely downsides here. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:50:25 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Definitely the worst Garand Thumb video I've seen. "People will buy an M1A and swap out the barrel for something good like a Fulton". Really? Barrels are rarely swapped because they are a PAI to install. Are Fulton barrels even that great. I know SA, Inc M1As aren't the best, but a standard is pretty comparable to a rack grade M14. 2-3 MOA is pretty dang good for a battle rifle like that. Fulton has always used Criterion or Krieger barrels, so yeah they are good but pretty much the same barrel you or I can get direct from Criterion. But yeah your point stands, the average guy isn’t buying an M1A and then saying great let’s swap the barrel! SA’s quality on the M1A is crap. It’s steadily gotten worse since the GI parts went away. I personally had a bad barrel on a Springfield M1A and this was recent. I don’t know where they get their blanks from (it used to be Wilson) but that wasn’t the issue. Springfield hacked up the chamber when they cut it and made a giant mess. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:53:08 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck finding that fucking rail. Lol, the second I saw the pics on the gram I tried to buy the one on the EE here. Got beat to it. 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 6:57:07 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, the second I saw the pics on the gram I tried to buy the one on the EE here. Got beat to it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good luck finding that fucking rail. Lol, the second I saw the pics on the gram I tried to buy the one on the EE here. Got beat to it. I'm sure with the video being out some will pop up for sale. Probably at elevated prices, but I never fault someone for taking advantage of an opportunity. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:02:00 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone makes, or made, a threaded extension, IIRC. Smith Enterprise Inc. makes a 5/8-24 adapter. Unfortunately, my M1A had poor muzzle concentricity, making for like a 10+ MOA POI shift with a suppressor. That was one of my main motivations for selling that particular rifle and building a PA-10. Overall, I don’t think it makes for a particularly good suppressor host even with USGI extractors and OpRod. My S.A. Inc extractor liberated itself in short time. I didn’t have any issues with a GI extractor, but I can say it took a LOT of effort to manually extract a case after firing suppressed with the gas turned off. Maybe my gun had issues. It shot really well unsuppressed. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:02:25 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Underwhelming accuracy, challenges mounting optics, optics can compromise reliability, mags are expensive, it's not easy to suppress, and the rifle costs almost $2k. There are definitely downsides here. If optics are compromising your reliability with an M14 you either have a crap scope mount or a rifle with a messed up ejector or spring that isn’t right to begin with. The only quality scope mount that has ever been a problem in this regard is when ARMS fucked up their design and abandoned the old split rail design for a solid rail. The ARMS is the absolute lowest mount available. The old mount has zero problems. I have one. But when they switched to a solid rail it can cause ejection issues. Brookfield, Sadlak, Smith, none of the others have this issue. It was only when ARMS changed their design that there was a problem with SOME rifles. As far as accuracy everyone’s AR10 shoots 1 MOA or under on the internet. If your M14 isn’t under 3 MOA or less on a bad day (I’m being way conservative and pessimistic here) with good ammo like Federal Gold Match there is something wrong with it. The accuracy is perfectly acceptable for a gas gun and better than most people can actually hold consistently. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:06:33 PM EST
[#34]
I got a Scout and a National Match. Picked up the NM from a knucklehead who had it 3 years and never shot it. He needed the money NOW, so I got it for $900.
Both are fun guns. Love those NM sights |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:13:00 PM EST
[#35]
Kinda wanna sell my Mk12 MOD 0 clone and get me a nice M1A after watching it
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:18:46 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Light recoiling and very enjoyable to shoot in the open with double earpro. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014224_jpg-3213725.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I just want a tanker. I don't want to mess with it at all Light recoiling and very enjoyable to shoot in the open with double earpro. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188236/1000014224_jpg-3213725.JPG FIFY. The factory brake should come with an apology and coupons for hearing aid batteries. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:21:40 PM EST
[#37]
Maybe if I was 30 years younger. At my age I prefer the heft of my AR carbine.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:23:25 PM EST
[#38]
He has a lot of shit on that rifle.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:33:40 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryMe gusta What are you using as far as mounts/thread adapters? Any difference in the gas plug? |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:34:46 PM EST
[#40]
One of the good guys in "The Attack" by Kurt Schlichter uses an M1A SOCOM to excellent effect. Just that little nudge got me looking at semi-auto .308 rifles again. There may be an LMT in my collection before long.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:39:01 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are so many people that buy anything he makes a video on. He's the ultimate person for a company to sponsor in the gun world imo. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My buddy just bought an M1A scout because of this video There are so many people that buy anything he makes a video on. He's the ultimate person for a company to sponsor in the gun world imo. He's funny as hell. I like him and have a Scout/Squad. It's a pleasant gun to shoot. I need to get a GI stock as the oem one is kinda thick. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:44:47 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace janky commercial parts with USGI parts. Then add a suppressor and tune the gas system with a Schuster adj. M1A plug. Then you can be Johnny Strong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxd3jziqkAEUgh. I remember that movie. That was some awful gun play. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:45:26 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's why the media company he works for gets hired by gun companies, although he does say in the video they purchased the M1A and it wasn't provided to them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are so many people that buy anything he makes a video on. He's the ultimate person for a company to sponsor in the gun world imo. That's why the media company he works for gets hired by gun companies, although he does say in the video they purchased the M1A and it wasn't provided to them. His video on the ptr91 helped to persuade me to buy it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:47:42 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure with the video being out some will pop up for sale. Probably at elevated prices, but I never fault someone for taking advantage of an opportunity. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good luck finding that fucking rail. Lol, the second I saw the pics on the gram I tried to buy the one on the EE here. Got beat to it. I'm sure with the video being out some will pop up for sale. Probably at elevated prices, but I never fault someone for taking advantage of an opportunity. FWIW, when they first came out SA told me they were available as $150 option for non-SOCOM models. That was a few years ago though. 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 7:59:53 PM EST
[#45]
 Jokes on you Garand Thumb, I've been cool since 1994....
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:02:22 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hopefully it was just the shop you went to and they were trying to lowball you, though I haven't priced mine in a while. I have the S2 with the extended rail and last I looked it had increased. If not then guess I'll just suffer and keep it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I got my SOCOM II because it was fun in Battlefield, and was worried they would come down hard on other "scary" rifles while leaving the M1A alone I tried to sell it at a shop recently but they wouldn't give me more than $700 Hopefully it was just the shop you went to and they were trying to lowball you, though I haven't priced mine in a while. I have the S2 with the extended rail and last I looked it had increased. If not then guess I'll just suffer and keep it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:02:38 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: His video on the ptr91 helped to persuade me to buy it. Every time his 1911 video with Johnny Cash playing in the background gets suggested, I carry my 1911.
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:02:54 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryNice! That looks like an old school SA National Match from back in the golden era of GI parts. I’ve got a double lug match gun built by Derrick Martin at Accuracy Speaks from around that era. |
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:03:04 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryThat's a big hawg! Where'd she shoot it, Texas? 
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Posted: 5/13/2024 8:06:14 PM EST
[#50]
I'd take a plain Jane Tanker ( been on my list for a little bit ) . Would be nice in 358W or 375 raptor though .
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