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Posted: 10/10/2023 7:03:37 PM EDT
Tonight on Coast to Coast AM George Noory interviews engineer Marshall Barnes about thwarting alien invasions, among other topics.
My first reaction is build the damn wall, but we'll see how it goes tonight on C2C. |
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i was about to say if they could make it to Earth more than likely we'd be fucked. but then i realized what the story was about.
it probably can't be stopped at this point. not saying we shouldn't try though. |
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You couldn't.
If they can travel in space in large numbers, never mind FTL then they have overwhelming advantages. Centauri Bombardment of Narn Homeworld That said theres also many, many good reasons why it wouldn't happen. As a matter of fact the only reason why an alien force might attack us is because they have some kind of fetish for spreading pain and suffering. |
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Battle: Los Angeles is an excellent documentary on the topic.
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They’d ‘nuke’ us from space and that’s that. Why get close so the insects can bite?
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Quoted: Tonight on Coast to Coast AM George Noory interviews engineer Marshall Barnes about thwarting alien invasions, among other topics. My first reaction is build the damn wall, but we'll see how it goes tonight on C2C. View Quote |
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Quoted: Tonight on Coast to Coast AM George Noory interviews engineer Marshall Barnes about thwarting alien invasions, among other topics. My first reaction is build the damn wall, but we'll see how it goes tonight on C2C. View Quote We're doing a terrible job so far...finishing the wall would be huge and effective, which is why it won't be done. |
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Been going on for well over 500 years here. I don't see it stopping anytime soon
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A Project Orion style battleship, built in secret somewhere on the West Coast. We could name it Michael.
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Quoted: Battle: Los Angeles is an excellent documentary on the topic. View Quote I haven't thought about C2C in a long time. A guy I used to work with would always listen to it, so of course that meant that sometimes I had to listen to it. Always entertaining. |
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have you not seen the independence day documentary, brother?
Independence Day (4/5) Movie CLIP - The President's Speech (1996) HD |
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Choosing love, kindness, and compassion over fear, hatred, and anger. See post #11 from the link below.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Disclosure-How-bad-can-it-be-/192-2676143/?page=2 |
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Sesame Street: The Martians Discover a Telephone |
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Fight alien imperialism and space colonization!!!!
For the climate and transgenderism!!!! To the last drop of blood. |
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By exposing the space aliens to some of our more bizarre cultures and beliefs.
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Quoted: Space aliens, inter-dimensional aliens, or illegal aliens? View Quote Illegal aliens are easy. Just lynch a bunch of them and hope the Justice Department doesn't crucify you. Space aliens you have no chance. Inter dimensional aliens, well. You just try and stop them from laying eggs in your brain. |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VjQ2t_yNHQs&feature=share
Just like this |
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I saw a documentary about it...
Slim Whitman - Indian Love Call 1952 |
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There's no practical reason for aliens to invade us. Everything they need is available without conflict out in space.
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If they can project force across light years and overcome all the biological differences that living on an alien world would entail then it's hard to see how we'd be much of a threat.
Much like the Builders in The Expanse, they'd just pave over us like we do anthills. Unless you envision gimmicky FTLs that allow relatively low tech to cheaply transport armies, like china asshoe invading Taiwan. Even then you need a reason. Part of the argument for alien civilizations is how common they are, implying lots of suitable planets to colonize without war. |
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If any aliens were able to get to earth, that would mean that they have figured out how to control space, time, gravity, magnetism and controlling those things would put them so far beyond us technologically that we would seem primitive. Any race advanced enough to control those things could easily turn that power into weapons that would make our nuclear arsenals primitive.
The closest comparison I can think of would be that if aliens could control those four things, we would seem so primate that it would be like we would look at primitive humans before they had the skill to make chipped stone tips for their arrows or spears...the most they had was a sharpened stick. |
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Either way,....call this guy. They Live (1988) - Here to Chew Bubble Gum and Kick Ass Scene (4/10) | Movieclips |
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Quoted: You couldn't. If they can travel in space in large numbers, never mind FTL then they have overwhelming advantages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl4b37ygojw That said theres also many, many good reasons why it wouldn't happen. As a matter of fact the only reason why an alien force might attack us is because they have some kind of fetish for spreading pain and suffering. View Quote Pretty much this. 1. "They aren't out there" to begin with. The Universe is far too large for us to be 100% technically alone, but Humans are very early to the game and anything remotely like us is exceedingly rare. We are functionally alone. Anybody or anything remotely like us, sentient/sapient with technology, whether they're a million years behind, and just knapping flints, or a million years ahead, and playing billiards with black holes, they're probably a dozen + galaxies away or further. The light from the Milky Way they'd see "now" and us seeing vice-versa, left when trilobites were a thing. Give it 500,000,000 years, to a billion for a 50/50 shot for anybody to meet up. We'll either be extinct, or we'll be the "ancient space-ghost aliens not to be fucked with." 2. We have nothing they want. There's nothing on the Periodic Table we have they don't. Water? There's more than Earth's oceans on one gas giant ice moon in our Solar System alone. And there's fuck-all we could do about it if they took it, or hoovered up Saturn's rings amd gave us the finger. And of course, umpteen Trillion star systems with water ice, metals, and whatever you want with nobody home at all. That are also way way closer and far more convenient. Biological? Unlikely. Go to the bottom of the ocean and fry up the weirdest-ass nasty sea-slug, blind fish, or hydrogen sulfide worm by a geothermal vent for dinner. Despite the obvious issue of being disgusting as fuck, it might even kill you. And this is your home planet. Something from another star system? That's all 1000x worse. Women? Oh, so now you're gonna fuck the sea-slug? Slaves? As if the robots a species that crosses interstellar space aren't perfect already? 3. There's extermination, friends, or secretly study. Those are the only three possible motives. Extermination, easy, smack us with a fast rock. (Avatar? Earth & the RDA are really that mean & greedy? Second ship to Pandora lets a connex box of garbage go at 60% light speed right before flip-over & deceleration. "What Na'Vi? 9ft tall creepy-sexy cat aliens with tree-internet? Hey... uh, SECURITY! SECURITY!" And the RDA mines all the schweet Unobtanium ore from that asteroid field oprbiting Polyphemus in the Alpha Centauri system.) Friends, say "Hi" and compare notes on the Universe & physics. Secret study, a preliminary step for extermination or friends. Although again, we've got better PowerBall odds than any contact at all to make these scenarios possible whatsoever. Ok, that out of the way, how do you defend against aliens? The imaginary Hollywood stupid ones that cross interstellar space, get in low Earth orbit or hang out in cislunar space, and then use rayguns & bombs onesy twosey on us? Be that fighter planes, cities, or individual people running around? Operation Plumbob manhole cover. Google that. Except we optimize it, a bunch of tungsten balls, whatever size is best for velocity retention & atmospheric drag, vs. shotgun spread & hit probability. Some sort of "wad cup" and the borehole/barrel is filled with lightweight polystyrene or something similar that will vaporize nicely, producing good high-expansion coefficient plasma for the shot. 20-50 kt nuke at the bottom, and... Bob's your uncle. The tungsten shot, baseball size, bowling ball size, whatever works best, will be moving at well over 66 km/s, better than Earth escape velocity, better than Solar System escape velocity. I think... that might even be substantially higher than Milky Way Galaxy escape velocity... I don't care if they've crossed interstellar space, relativistic or FTL, whatever it is, won't spool up and switch on at the "speed of plot." Shields... shields like Star Wars & Star Trek, just not a thing. If the alien invasion fleet got here "the hard way" via relativistic travel, they'll have a relativistic dust shield, big-ass umbrella thing, because a grain of sand hits like a nuke at 80%+ of light speed. Or it might even just be fog or snow they spray gently ahead of the ship thousands of miles ahead of them. But "Mr. Brunswick made of Wolfram" masses a fuckton more, and won't vaporize like the sand grain will. A bowling ball chunk o' tungsten will mass about 105kg. Say it's moving at 100 km/s because it was intentional rather than an "oopsie" like Op. Plumbob... That's 525000000000 Joules or 387,219,000,000 ft/lbs, since we're an American gun forum. |
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Quoted: If any aliens were able to get to earth, that would mean that they have figured out how to control space, time, gravity, magnetism and controlling those things would put them so far beyond us technologically that we would seem primitive. View Quote That depends on how far they came. It's very possible to reach the nearest stars with physics we already understand and ships we could conceivably build if we had access to the raw materials and had the money for it. Not right now, but in a couple hundred years. But if they were that close, we'd have detected them already. |
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