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Attached File Note the flight time, the less dense air makes for less velocity loss, less velocity loss makes for shorter flight time, shorter flight time means gravity pulls the bullet down over a shorter period therefore less drop over a given distance. The station pressure at 10k is 20.58 in/hg, 29.92 in/hg at sea level all other atmospherics are unchanged in the above. |
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I guess they just don't teach this shit anymore. You can inject modern precision bullets with different gases to change their performance. That's what that little hole in the tip is for on the OTM bullets. You can put helium in there to make the bullets rise more, or you can put something like carbon dioxide or sulfur hexafluoride in there to make the bullets drop faster, depending on what you're wanting to do. You have to be careful to not stick the needle in too far or you'll cause a leak and the gas won't stay in there. There's a PDF guidebook on how to choose the right gas and how to inject it properly. Should help you out, OP. Do a bit of searching it was linked here a while back. View Quote |
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A CPAP can make that a bit worse, aggravating symptoms of GERD and asthma, as well as causing some enamel erosion on one's teeth. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Look what happens if you take your seat belt off after you go above 10's of hundreds of feet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy5UDtRmbEA View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Your shooting solution hardware should have measurements based off density altitude...
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Acceleration of gravity does vary a little at different locations on the earth, something like 32.0 ft/sec/sec to 32.4 ft/sec/sec. But the thinner air of higher elevation should make a more noticeable difference. The bullet will lose less velocity as it travels because of less air molecules it has to push through. View Quote I knew extra big-ass tacos do. But air? |
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I just hold a bit low when shooting at 10,000ft.
This bull was @10,000 ft and 1102 yds, held about 6 inches below his brisket. Attached File Real world trumps all that science bull shit. |
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They're experiencing zero g because they're in free fall, just like the folks on the ISS. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Most are stymied by the intricacies of shooting above 10,000ft.
This shot was particularly technical. Step 1 Look for Muley buck. Attached File Step 2 Find Muley buck Attached File Step 3 Setup shot and wait for muely buck to stand up @680 yds. Attached File Step 4 Hold low and Profit. Attached File |
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Do you even physics? Acceleration due to gravity is a constant. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83091/2018-11-22_13_26_42_jpg-747458.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83091/2018-11-22_13_25_34_jpg-747459.JPG Note the flight time, the less dense air makes for less velocity loss, less velocity loss makes for shorter flight time, shorter flight time means gravity pulls the bullet down over a shorter period therefore less drop over a given distance. The station pressure at 10k is 20.58 in/hg, 29.92 in/hg at sea level all other atmospherics are unchanged in the above. View Quote |
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Most are stymied by the intricacies of shooting above 10,000ft. This shot was particularly technical. Step 1 Look for Muley buck. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0026_jpg-747617.JPG Step 2 Find Muley buck https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000110_jpg-747618.JPG Step 3 Setup shot and wait for muely buck to stand up @680 yds. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0032_jpg-747619.JPG Step 4 Hold low and Profit. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0039_jpg-747627.JPG View Quote |
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He means above bore axis. They never rise above the axis of the bore. Period.
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OPs not lying, guys, haven’t y’all seen this chart?? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/293861/EE40D193-4421-479D-9D15-286275D94091_png-747230.JPG View Quote |
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The bullet gets to the target quicker therefore has less time be under the effect of gravity, thus falls less.
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While 10,000 feet makes no difference on ballistics as far as gravity is concerned it makes you wonder about the ballistics in zero g. If you shoot a bullet in space would it have a flat trajectory? View Quote |
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Which doesn't show anything about how Litz handles gravity. View Quote Litz simply stays below 10,000ft. Easy Peasy. Some of us go higher and need to learn to deal with reduced gravity. Step 1 Obtain and subjugate beast of burden. Attached File Step 2 Ride said subjugated beasts to the top of the world. Attached File Step 3 Locate Mule Deer bucks Attached File Attached File Step 3 Hold low due to reduced gravity and Profit Attached File |
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Most are stymied by the intricacies of shooting above 10,000ft. This shot was particularly technical. Step 1 Look for Muley buck. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0026_jpg-747617.JPG Step 2 Find Muley buck https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000110_jpg-747618.JPG Step 3 Setup shot and wait for muely buck to stand up @680 yds. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0032_jpg-747619.JPG Step 4 Hold low and Profit. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0039_jpg-747627.JPG |
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LOl. Litz simply stays below 10,000ft. Easy Peasy. Some of us go higher and need to learn to deal with reduced gravity. Step 1 Obtain and subjugate beast of burden. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0005_jpg-747650.JPG Step 2 Ride said subjugated beasts to the top of the world. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000149_jpg-747653.JPG Step 3 Locate Mule Deer bucks https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000136_jpg-747667.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000133_jpg-747658.JPG Step 3 Hold low due to reduced gravity and Profit https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/John_Muley_Buck_jpg-747665.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Which doesn't show anything about how Litz handles gravity. Litz simply stays below 10,000ft. Easy Peasy. Some of us go higher and need to learn to deal with reduced gravity. Step 1 Obtain and subjugate beast of burden. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0005_jpg-747650.JPG Step 2 Ride said subjugated beasts to the top of the world. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000149_jpg-747653.JPG Step 3 Locate Mule Deer bucks https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000136_jpg-747667.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000133_jpg-747658.JPG Step 3 Hold low due to reduced gravity and Profit https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/John_Muley_Buck_jpg-747665.JPG 1) take many breaks so both you an the animal can catch its breath before its heart pops out of its chest... |
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Agree, but it depends of the situation really. If you're shooting from one peak to another across a sea level ridge the simple method using k would work fine. I do agree with your second point and would more than likely make a sea level chart, then go shoot at altitude and see the difference and find the ratio and adjust accordingly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Altitude and being on a mountain are two different things. The mountain has mass. You would really need to include the mass in the equation to do it right. So you'd need to do the whole square of the distances and gravitational constant calculation Again air density has more impact than any gravity difference. I do agree with your second point and would more than likely make a sea level chart, then go shoot at altitude and see the difference and find the ratio and adjust accordingly. |
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I'm loving all these wide open hunting pics.
They aren't the freaks you see in cages but those animals are amazing and lived. |
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No charts/calculations are necessary if you shake the bullet first and check the powder.
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The difference is almost entirely due to changes in air density, not gravity. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I love this place!
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Serious business about gravity is being discussed in this thread and I will report your attempts at a thread derail. This is GD and there are technical standards. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Most are stymied by the intricacies of shooting above 10,000ft. This shot was particularly technical. Step 1 Look for Muley buck. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0026_jpg-747617.JPG Step 2 Find Muley buck https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/P1000110_jpg-747618.JPG Step 3 Setup shot and wait for muely buck to stand up @680 yds. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0032_jpg-747619.JPG Step 4 Hold low and Profit. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309674/IMG_0039_jpg-747627.JPG View Quote |
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I arrived almost 5 hours ago.
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