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Remember that while most, almost all, muslims agree with violent jihad, only a relative few are actually doing it. Others would rather take care of their farms and businesses. As with many things, knock down the leaders and activists, the rest will stay quieter. View Quote It will be interesting to see how Trump interacts with CAIR. |
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Every former head of the CIA says we cannot kill our way out of this.
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How does Trump wipe Islamic Extremism off the face of the earth? View Quote Kill them when and where you find them, until there are none left |
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He has identified the enemy, that hasn't been done before. It's the beginning of the beginning.
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I wonder how they would respond when they are facing complete eradication of their people like Japan did in WWII?
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He's going to team up with Chuck Norris and Zombie Duke Wayne. The three of them will kick the crap out of all of the terrorists!
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Loose the hands of our planners and generals that are tied with bullshit policy.
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I wonder how they would respond when they are facing complete eradication of their people like Japan did in WWII? View Quote Who is "they"? Even at its worst, Allied forces during World War II were not going to, nor would/could, completely eradicate the Japanese people. Millions might have died, had a full invasion of Japan taken place, but it would not have killed everyone in that country (or even a majority). In any case, like I mentioned in a post on page 2, the defeat of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany are not good comparisons to the problem of radical Islamic terrorism. Both Japan and Germany were highly disciplined societies, with ideologies that were fiercely nationalistic, and whose military actions were carried out by formal armies. None of that is true when dealing with terrorists. |
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This. Its been around for a long time, it ain't going anywhere. All WE (not Trump, he is not a diety) can do is keep them at bay and slow their growth until they civilize (if ever). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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First thing would be for a lot of idiots to realize that wars don't run on a timetable, won't be over in a set time, and be in it for the long haul.
Otherwise, we puss out and elect another Obama and do this shit over and over. |
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"You can't kill an idea."
Yes you surely can and history is rife with examples. It is called deterrence and every human being capable of reason will either choose to sacrifice themselves on the altar of an intolerable idea or abandon the idea in favor of continuing their existence once faced with an inescapably terminal, deterrent force. All that is required is a ceaseless and mercilessly unflinching annihilation of those supporting the idea that they are to dominate, enslave or murder all those not like them. Do those of you senselessly repeating the fallacy that "you can't kill and idea" think for a minute that the Islamist's sit around saying the same thing about Individual Liberty or Christianity, etc... One can most certainly kill an idea, though one will never kill this particular"idea" by talking it to death. The Quran is an instruction manual for destroying an idea such as Islam. One simply needs to flip the script and begin regarding the enemies of all humanity, the would be dominators, those who would see the entire non-muslim world in submission, either murdered or enslaved, exactly as the un-holy Quran instructs for the treatment of the so-called Infidels everywhere. No quarter for those who cling to the idea that Islam has been misrepresented by extremists and continue lending credence to the idea that it is a religion of peace. They are supporters of an ideology that is clearly defined as threatening to all non-muslims in the Quran, the Hadiths, etc.... No single rain drop thinks itself responsible for the flood but the flood could not happen without their contribution. It is a domination ideology aimed at the entire world and should be regarded as such. Those who chose it as their belief system chose poorly and have the choice to either own the fallout from it or abandon it in search of a belief system that encompasses that which they wish Islam could be. Since systems like that already exist and acknowledging that gutting Islam of all that is extreme and threatening to non-muslims leaves nothing of it. The choice of honest, peace loving people who respect the right of individuals to live their own lives free from the harassment of others is remarkably simple to attain. That they remain evinces that they are either ignorant of their so-called religion or that they support that which it commands. Islam is an ideology of deception, destruction, submission, slavery and domination. Take that away and what is left of it? It is the manifesto of parasites. Can you kill this idea? Easily, but be warned , the CoC will need to be violated. |
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US Marines, Seals, Rangers and all the rest and give them the right ROE.
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Killing an idea is like cutting out a tumor. You need to cut enough extra healthy flesh to ensure you have clean margins so it doesn't grow back.
Debate whether or not you should kill an idea, not whether or not you can. We have the technology to kill every mammal on the planet. Don't underestimate the means by which we can kill, question the resolve to use them. |
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Endless waves of air fuel bombs, napalm, cruise missiles and low yield tactical nukes.
At home start by adopting the IDF 22 sniper mentality for protesters, rioters and people with masks get shot right the fuck in the head on the street Judge Dread style. Else where? If they are Marines... unshackle them, you do not put Marines on the ground to win hearts and minds. You put them there to brake shit, pillage and draw dicks on every fucking thing. |
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The earth is a graveyard of people and ideas long dead.
Ideas, cultures, peoples, kingdoms, nations, etc... all can be crushed, conquered, eradicated or simply fade away. eta- ideas are killed off, that is how regions become filled with and dominated by conquerors ideas or ideas that evolve by other means, ideas spread, ideas die.. |
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I can think of one way, but it would probably violate the CoC.
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He's not. Can't kill an idea. View Quote Sure you can. You just have to kill enough people that have the idea. Eventually you'll kill the idea. Problem with that method is that it's not socially acceptable anymore. You just have to make sure all of your enemies have seen the "end of war." |
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It's a generational problem. They breed these radicals generation after generation. The only solution is to cull the radicals while trying to put the rest to work. A lot of the new generation of radicals are without jobs or a future. That's really the only long term solution, unless they just have a change of heart but that won't happen. How much we should be responsible for building their economy is up for debate (none IMO), but the ME seems to be incapable of fixing their own desolation by themselves. Kind of ironic in the past 90 years or so they had the largest energy supply for the world, and they squandered it by greed. So, it just boils down to the US culling the radicals to protect ourselves, and so the cycle continues.
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You don't get rid of the extremism without getting rid of Islam. He should Polonium-210 some leaders and install pro-US leaders that will ban the religion and convert people to Christianity.
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Well, for starters we don't ever try to bring freedom/democracy to a country where it is certain not to work. Ever notice that if we are there they all take our lives and our money. Then, when we tire of the whole CF and leave they go right back to killing each other. In the interim we have traded some really fine young Americans who want to live for those on their side who see death as a path to paradise and who still hate us. Regards
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Make sustainable fusion a "Moonshot".
Support that with a huge propaganda effort towards pebble reactors, and build the crap out of them. The only reason anyone pays attention to the goatfuckers is their cheap oil. After that, let them wither away. Until then, unleash the Tiptoe Boys, in full murder mode. |
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Multiprong attack . Kill the sheep and goats put IEDs in camels and take their country under control. That will bring them to the field of battle and force them into the claws of the Eagle. Fuck their females and kill their Holy men. Soon they will be in hiding or dead. About every 20 years do it again. Rinse Lather and Repeat.
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Well we sure can kill a bunch of them trying. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He's not. Can't kill an idea. Well we sure can kill a bunch of them trying. While it is true you can not kill an idea. You can make them think the idea isn't worth the extinction of all who hold it. This is basically how you win a war over anyone. This is why Japan surrendered. |
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The hell you can't. View Quote What was the name of the empire in North Africa that threatened Rome? What happened to the pharaohs and their control of Egypt? What happened to the Incas? The Aztecs? Did you know that at one time there where European cities in the middle east with populations of up to 50,000 people? Where are they now? History is full of accounts of kingdoms and empires who rolled over the countries and even continents around them, only to rolled over in turn by another kingdom or empire. Most of their cities are gone, very little of their history is known today and the ones we know of may be a small number of the actual similar incidents that have occurred over time. Are we going to survive, or give up? Are we willing to do what it takes to survive? I'm sure some people are. The others will be forgotten, in time. |
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We can drill our own oil and turn the house of saud into our bitch, for starters. Then get India to smack down Pakistan, while we overthrow Iran. Let Israel pitch in wherever they want. View Quote The Saudi royals are the financiers and instigators of the jihadists around the world, from the bombings of our African embassies to 9/11. They also controlled our politicians until now - they don't own Trump. They owned both Bushes and Obama, and Clinton as well. Trump has to contend with the Senators and Representatives the Saudi still own. Once he gets them in line, the US and Russia can definitely stop this Muslim bull shit. |
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Actually, if we could get the feminists to do something useful and get their women in full rebellion to Sharia. That might, nooo absolutely would work.
Oh, yes. |
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Any idea, culture, people, or belief can be eliminated.
Whether or not the necessary actions and rules of engagement are acceptable is the only question. As a practical matter, the United States has the capability. |
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let ashley Judd give them a speech. yep that would kill them.
Ashley Judd FULL Speech at "Women's March" In Washington DC ‘I am a nasty woman’ |
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First, we unionize ISIS. Then, we make them subject to the EPA, OSHA and the EEOC.
Nothing would ever survive an attack like that. |
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