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Quoted: By "McMansions", do you mean "George's window is 10' from my bedroom window, but Tom's drone 200' away is the problem"? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I wouldn't call the area where I live a suburb. It's country living on the edge of a suburb. The street I live on is all four to six acre lots on a country road, then a 60-some acre field on the north side of all of the houses, and a McMansion development on the east side of the field. To the north of the field is a large Metro Park, which poses another problem because they claim they have a right to restrict drones over their airspace as well to one single area but I disagree. We think the letter came from somebody who owns one of the McMansions. By "McMansions", do you mean "George's window is 10' from my bedroom window, but Tom's drone 200' away is the problem"? Bingo. They all live on top of each other. My daughters friend lives in the same neighborhood. We went over for a cookout one day, and the edge of their brick patio is literally 1 foot away from the neighbors brick patio. |
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Quoted: Quoted: The red square on the edge of my property is my barn. Its a 4 car garage and workspace on the bottom, and a guest house / game room / party room on the 2nd floor with a balcony. From the balcony I can see all the way through the corn field which is probably 60-70 acres or more. I can maintain VLOS throughout the entire field. All the houses on my side of the road are 4-7 acres. The lady who we think sent the letter lives all the way over in the mcmansion development. I've flown toward her property and gotten pretty close, but not actually over it. She lives probably 2200 feet away or more. They have some kids playground things in the back yard. The dog lady lives a couple houses over. I have to fly over at least one property to get to the field. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/269116/droneflying_png-2426746.JPG How about don’t be a dick? Point out where I'm being a dick by flying in a corn field. |
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I've been sporadically flying different drones in my neighborhood, parks, beach, etc for years and never had anyone say anything other than "cool drone!" I suspect you'd have to be flying like a real dick to draw multiple complaints.
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Quoted: I've been sporadically flying different drones in my neighborhood, parks, beach, etc for years and never had anyone say anything other than "cool drone!" I suspect you'd have to be flying like a real dick to draw multiple complaints. View Quote I think its mostly boomers with too many "fur babies" and karens who say "think about the children" ten times a day. |
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The problem is that you know your intentions are benign: entertainment, skill, challenge, fun, adventure, whatever.
The people you're flying around don't know who's controlling it or for what purposes. All they see is a drone zooming around *nearby* their home and private backyards, open windows, children, sunbathing daughter, etc. Look at it from their perspective and maybe consider taking the drone someplace else to fly. |
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Quoted: Wait… so the ~$9k quadcopter (with 640 thermal) sitting in its case beside my desk right now is a “toy”? Well, shit. I had no idea. Guess I’ll have to let the guy I’m doing a solar inspection for this week that I’m gonna have to cancel on him, since all I have is a “toy”. View Quote Maybe you shouldn't have over paid? |
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Quoted: LoL! View Quote "Turns out, under 18 U.S. Code 32, whoever willfully "sets fire to, damages, destroys, disables, or wrecks any aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States" may be fined and/or imprisoned for up to 20 years. The definition of "aircraft" for the purposes of this statute is incredibly broad, and could certainly cover drones" https://abovethelaw.com/2020/05/is-it-illegal-to-shoot-down-a-drone-same-as-plane-faa-says-as-minnesota-man-charged-with-felony/ |
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Quoted: Don't laugh at some of the ridiculous laws that are in the books. "Turns out, under 18 U.S. Code 32, whoever willfully "sets fire to, damages, destroys, disables, or wrecks any aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States" may be fined and/or imprisoned for up to 20 years. The definition of "aircraft" for the purposes of this statute is incredibly broad, and could certainly cover drones" https://abovethelaw.com/2020/05/is-it-illegal-to-shoot-down-a-drone-same-as-plane-faa-says-as-minnesota-man-charged-with-felony/ View Quote What if...now stay with me here...you rigged up a drone for air-to-air and went after the OPs drone? Drone Dogfights...Drone Top Gun competition...the possibilities are endless! |
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MS paint doesn't appear to be drawn to scale.
How about posting up a screen grab from google earth of said hot zone? |
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Quoted: It is my understanding that shooting down a drone is the same as shooting down a passenger aircraft under the aircraft sabotage act. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: my guess is there is two sides to this story, as for public airspace I'd say any drone out of range of a 12 ga 3" mag is perfectly welcome in my airspace. within range fly at your own discretion? seems pretty simple to me It is my understanding that shooting down a drone is the same as shooting down a passenger aircraft under the aircraft sabotage act. So? Does that make it right? We are all into property rights until drones, then somehow we are very in tune with gov regulations. Flying cameras don't belong in a neighborhood. It's more than one neighbor, so maybe it's you. And yes, I have 2 drones. |
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Quoted: MS paint doesn't appear to be drawn to scale. How about posting up a screen grab from google earth of said hot zone? View Quote I would like to post the recording of me flying, to be honest, but people have already been talking about doxing me here.... So I think I'll pass. The scale was purposely skewed. |
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Quoted: When you fly you have to be stealthy or people will freak out. View Quote Stealth isn't quite in the DJIFPV's repertoire. Make some noise! DJI FPV Drone vs Mavic Air 2, 2 Pro/Zoom & Mini - Noise & speed comparison |
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Quoted: I would like to post the recording of me flying, to be honest, but people have already been talking about doxing me here.... So I think I'll pass. The scale was purposely skewed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: MS paint doesn't appear to be drawn to scale. How about posting up a screen grab from google earth of said hot zone? I would like to post the recording of me flying, to be honest, but people have already been talking about doxing me here.... So I think I'll pass. The scale was purposely skewed. You have reasons for wanting to protect your privacy. Can't you understand how your neighbors might have the same concerns? They have no idea what your intentions are, or what you intend to do with the footage your drone may be capturing. |
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Quoted: You have reasons for wanting to protect your privacy. Can't you understand how your neighbors might have the same concerns? They have no idea what your intentions are, or what you intend to do with the footage your drone may be capturing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: MS paint doesn't appear to be drawn to scale. How about posting up a screen grab from google earth of said hot zone? I would like to post the recording of me flying, to be honest, but people have already been talking about doxing me here.... So I think I'll pass. The scale was purposely skewed. You have reasons for wanting to protect your privacy. Can't you understand how your neighbors might have the same concerns? They have no idea what your intentions are, or what you intend to do with the footage your drone may be capturing. A few summers ago we arrested a guy because he had a GoPro on his shoe and was taking upskirt videos of girls at the mall. Maybe we shouldn't let people buy a Go Pro until we know their intentions? Even better, maybe we shouldn't let someone buy an AR15 until we know their intentions. |
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Quoted: Would you say the same thing if it involved shooting guns on your own property? Stop shooting guns on your property, go to a shooting range. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Don't fly it in your neighborhood genius. Go play with your drone somewhere else where it doesn't irritate your neighbors. Would you say the same thing if it involved shooting guns on your own property? Stop shooting guns on your property, go to a shooting range. It would depend on the property. If you're talking about several acres in a rural area, no problem. If you're talking about shooting in your backyard with houses all around, then I'd say to go to a shooting range. |
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It would be a damn shame if OP flew over my yard while I was shooting skeet!
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After 6 pages am I actually going to be the guy that says...
This thread is worthless without creepy pictures of neighbors wife! |
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Is this another GD thread full of freedom lovers who want to tell others how to enjoy their freedom? I swear the hand wringing around here is getting about as bad as some of the DU Karens....
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Quoted: After a lot of research, and a lot of studying, last week, I finally bit the bullet on a nice quality drone to compliment my part 107 license. Except now all my neighbors are mad. The neighbors a couple doors down told my wife they didn't appreciate the drone buzzing around, and claimed it scared one of their dogs. Some people a couple streets over, who are family. Friends, said their neighbors are worried about the creeper flying the drone around. And today an anonymous typed letter showed up in my mailbox claiming that my drone was scaring children and that people no longer have privacy in their backyards. I think the people a couple streets over and the letter are from the same, but my wife thinks they are different. I'm following all the necessary rules and regulations as dictated by the FAA, including obtaining flight authorization are necessary. I don't necessarily want to tick off all my neighbors, but at the same time they need to understand that the airspace is public. View Quote But they are ok with guvmint doing similar things??? |
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Quoted: After 6 pages am I actually going to be the guy that says... This thread is worthless without creepy pictures of neighbors wife! View Quote The letter writing karen is a pretty average, typical housewife that could stand to lose 30 pounds like the rest of the country. But the gal that lives across from them works out a lot, has definitely had some work done, and looks great for a 40-something. |
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Quoted: Got that right. Son flies a mini 2. People think the thing has satellite quality imagery. When he hovers at 300-400 AGL he's doing a 360 shot of the area straight out, local peeps are convinced he's doing surveillance. Most times just trying to get a quality evening cloud photo to enter in his 4H photo contests. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Tell your neighbor you couldn't help but notice that his wife's tits were kind of saggy when you flew by the house. On a more serious note, welcome to the world of drones. Most people think you can see way more than you're actually seeing with most of them. Got that right. Son flies a mini 2. People think the thing has satellite quality imagery. When he hovers at 300-400 AGL he's doing a 360 shot of the area straight out, local peeps are convinced he's doing surveillance. Most times just trying to get a quality evening cloud photo to enter in his 4H photo contests. This. I love to do evening cloud/sunset/city lights shots with my Mini 2. Even at lower altitudes, the combo of wide angle lens and small sensor means you need to get very close for high detail. I was checking my gutters yesterday and had to fly below the roof peak to see well. |
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Quoted: I would like to post the recording of me flying, to be honest, but people have already been talking about doxing me here.... So I think I'll pass. The scale was purposely skewed. View Quote Ah man..... I thought it was to scale. We need a new drafter for crime scene layouts and I saw your skills and was ready to extend an offer. |
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Quoted: The red square on the edge of my property is my barn. Its a 4 car garage and workspace on the bottom, and a guest house / game room / party room on the 2nd floor with a balcony. From the balcony I can see all the way through the corn field which is probably 60-70 acres or more. I can maintain VLOS throughout the entire field. All the houses on my side of the road are 4-7 acres. The lady who we think sent the letter lives all the way over in the mcmansion development. I've flown toward her property and gotten pretty close, but not actually over it. She lives probably 2200 feet away or more. They have some kids playground things in the back yard. The dog lady lives a couple houses over. I have to fly over at least one property to get to the field. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/269116/droneflying_png-2426746.JPG View Quote Why is there barely any vegetation in your neighborhood |
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Quoted: The problem is that you know your intentions are benign: entertainment, skill, challenge, fun, adventure, whatever. The people you're flying around don't know who's controlling it or for what purposes. All they see is a drone zooming around *nearby* their home and private backyards, open windows, children, sunbathing daughter, etc. Look at it from their perspective and maybe consider taking the drone someplace else to fly. View Quote And those people are right. There have been plenty of stories about perverts flying around creeping on people. Maybe that drone doesn't have a good camera, or maybe it does. Maybe it's not flying 200' above the house but instead 50'. Maybe it does this every time it's a hot summer day and your wife or daughter is out sunbathing in a private fenced back yard and suddenly a drone flies over. Is it taking pictures? Is it recording? Who's drone is it? What if they do this every day? I'm no friend of government regulations but it's astonishing to me how many of the pro-drone crowd are ignoring these very significant issues, because right now their answer just sounds like "trust us, we're not perverts". |
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Quoted: Ah man..... I thought it was to scale. We need a new drafter for crime scene layouts and I saw your skills and was ready to extend an offer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I would like to post the recording of me flying, to be honest, but people have already been talking about doxing me here.... So I think I'll pass. The scale was purposely skewed. Ah man..... I thought it was to scale. We need a new drafter for crime scene layouts and I saw your skills and was ready to extend an offer. My agency uses drones to 3d model crime scenes. |
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Trust us, we're not murderers.
Not singling you out MacPherson but this is the same argument that get used all the time. For every ONE story of a weirdo or perv, there are hundreds of people just flying around enjoying the hobby. Just like for every gun crime, there are hundreds of law abiding gun owners. Quoted: And those people are right. There have been plenty of stories about Nefarious gun owners hurting people. Maybe that firearm has a large magazine or maybe it does not. I'm no friend of government regulations but it's astonishing to me how many of the pro-gun crowd are ignoring these very significant issues, because right now their answer just sounds like "trust us, we're not killers". View Quote |
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People need to stop complaining and start buying and flying drones. I watch drone footage from Ukraine every day. Reconnaissance, bombing, artillery guidance etc. done by DJI drones. Used to great effect by both sides. If we are to believe that a domestic conflict is brewing, learning to fly a becomes extremely important. And if no conflict comes, you'll just have fun (unless bitchy neighbors ruin it for you).
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Quoted: Why is there barely any vegetation in your neighborhood View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The red square on the edge of my property is my barn. Its a 4 car garage and workspace on the bottom, and a guest house / game room / party room on the 2nd floor with a balcony. From the balcony I can see all the way through the corn field which is probably 60-70 acres or more. I can maintain VLOS throughout the entire field. All the houses on my side of the road are 4-7 acres. The lady who we think sent the letter lives all the way over in the mcmansion development. I've flown toward her property and gotten pretty close, but not actually over it. She lives probably 2200 feet away or more. They have some kids playground things in the back yard. The dog lady lives a couple houses over. I have to fly over at least one property to get to the field. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/269116/droneflying_png-2426746.JPG Why is there barely any vegetation in your neighborhood The entire row of houses I live within was part of the cornfield until 20ish years ago. There are a few trees here and there but nothing over 20 years old except along the road itself. The entire road frontage is all mature trees I just didn't draw those on there. |
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Quoted: What if...now stay with me here...you rigged up a drone for air-to-air and went after the OPs drone? Drone Dogfights...Drone Top Gun competition...the possibilities are endless! View Quote You can do WAY better than quadcopters for that. Immersive Head Tracking FPV Dogfight from cockpit of RC Spitfire vs F-14 Tomcat 💥💥💥 |
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Quoted: After a lot of research, and a lot of studying, last week, I finally bit the bullet on a nice quality drone to compliment my part 107 license. Except now all my neighbors are mad. View Quote Highlighted the issue. Most neighbor issues can be solved by not having neighbors. |
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View Quote Quadcopters like FPV racing drones are way better. I can chase down pidgeons at the park and both out climb as well as out turn them at every point in the chase. The pidgeons wind up getting driven towards the ground because often times their ownly evasive maneuver is to bank towards the ground. Here is one of the best FPV pilots flying at full uncork... Some of these kids reach Formula 1 style muscle memory to do this Gifted level of skill Having the FPV feed slapped on your face you can actually get an adrenaline rush while flying. I was spending more money on FPV from 2016 through 2018 than on 3 mustangs in my garage. That includes 2017 when I bought my 1966 project car. Almost got as good a rush flying FPV as taking the cars out for a good drive in the back roads or a karting session at the track. |
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Quoted: Trust us, we're not murderers. Not singling you out MacPherson but this is the same argument that get used all the time. For every ONE story of a weirdo or perv, there are hundreds of people just flying around enjoying the hobby. Just like for every gun crime, there are hundreds of law abiding gun owners. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Trust us, we're not murderers. Not singling you out MacPherson but this is the same argument that get used all the time. For every ONE story of a weirdo or perv, there are hundreds of people just flying around enjoying the hobby. Just like for every gun crime, there are hundreds of law abiding gun owners. Quoted: And those people are right. There have been plenty of stories about Nefarious gun owners hurting people. Maybe that firearm has a large magazine or maybe it does not. I'm no friend of government regulations but it's astonishing to me how many of the pro-gun crowd are ignoring these very significant issues, because right now their answer just sounds like "trust us, we're not killers". If gun owners went around pointing their guns at people and then saying "I wasn't pointing it at you, I was pointing it at something behind you", or "it wasn't loaded, what's the big deal?", you don't think that is an issue? That analogy utterly fails to address the invasion of privacy I described. What's the recourse for someone who is harassed by some rando flying a drone over their yard, or worse taking pictures to do who knows what with? |
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Quoted: Look if tHeY dOn'T oWn ThE aIrSpAcE either, and a homeowner's Basic Human RightTM to operate their AAA battery (and test it) costs someone a drone, tough shit right? https://hazlitt.net/sites/default/files/gulfwar1.gif ETA: Peak libertarianism? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: It should be FAA law that land owners can shoot down drones flying over their land by use of shotguns only. Like that's the no go zone below a certain altitude. Fair is fair. Landowners taking back their personal airspace. Flying low over the neighborhood culdesac should be as hot with triple A as a night mission over Hanoi. Look if tHeY dOn'T oWn ThE aIrSpAcE either, and a homeowner's Basic Human RightTM to operate their AAA battery (and test it) costs someone a drone, tough shit right? https://hazlitt.net/sites/default/files/gulfwar1.gif ETA: Peak libertarianism? I have footage somewhat similar to that from flying during 4th of July a few years back. Small little palm sized bugger with an IR sensitive night vision camera. 1/2 mile out and back while watching mortar shells going off. |
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Quoted: The problem is that you know your intentions are benign: entertainment, skill, challenge, fun, adventure, whatever. The people you're flying around don't know who's controlling it or for what purposes. All they see is a drone zooming around *nearby* their home and private backyards, open windows, children, sunbathing daughter, etc. Look at it from their perspective and maybe consider taking the drone someplace else to fly. View Quote The same would be said by an anti-gunner, word-for-word that's their strategy. Take your guns to where I can't see them or hear them. <-- see |
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Quoted: Quadcopters like FPV racing drones are way better. I can chase down pidgeons at the park and both out climb as well as out turn them at every point in the chase. The pidgeons wind up getting driven towards the ground because often times their ownly evasive maneuver is to bank towards the ground. Here is one of the best FPV pilots flying at full uncork... Some of these kids reach Formula 1 style muscle memory to do this Gifted level of skill Having the FPV feed slapped on your face you can actually get an adrenaline rush while flying. I was spending more money on FPV from 2016 through 2018 than on 3 mustangs in my garage. That includes 2017 when I bought my 1966 project car. Almost got as good a rush flying FPV as taking the cars out for a good drive in the back roads or a karting session at the track. View Quote Well...according to many in this thread, definitely a few on this page alone, that kid is a “creeper”. Funny how clueless people label someone they know nothing about. I’m willing to bet they’re projecting. |
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Quoted: The same would be said by an anti-gunner, word-for-word that's their strategy. Take your guns to where I can't see them or hear them. <-- see View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The problem is that you know your intentions are benign: entertainment, skill, challenge, fun, adventure, whatever. The people you're flying around don't know who's controlling it or for what purposes. All they see is a drone zooming around *nearby* their home and private backyards, open windows, children, sunbathing daughter, etc. Look at it from their perspective and maybe consider taking the drone someplace else to fly. The same would be said by an anti-gunner, word-for-word that's their strategy. Take your guns to where I can't see them or hear them. <-- see And blithely ignoring and discounting a real issue is what is going to get drones (and guns) taken away. Don't point guns or cameras at me or my loved ones in my backyard and we're good. |
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Quoted: You have reasons for wanting to protect your privacy. Can't you understand how your neighbors might have the same concerns? They have no idea what your intentions are, or what you intend to do with the footage your drone may be capturing. View Quote Another anti-gun based argument the liberals use: "I have no idea what you're going to use that assault rifle for" |
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OP I'm curious - how did McMansion Karen identify which house the drone came from? Do you have a neighborhood reputation as the "drone guy"?
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Quoted: And blithely ignoring and discounting a real issue is what is going to get drones (and guns) taken away. Don't point guns or cameras at me or my loved ones in my backyard and we're good. View Quote And the time is coming where gun laws will be ignored just as much as drone laws. Oh my 250+g drone needs to be registered? I will get right on that. Just because I do not post videos of flying anymore does not mean I have stopped. |
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Quoted: You have reasons for wanting to protect your privacy. Can't you understand how your neighbors might have the same concerns? They have no idea what your intentions are, or what you intend to do with the footage your drone may be capturing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: MS paint doesn't appear to be drawn to scale. How about posting up a screen grab from google earth of said hot zone? I would like to post the recording of me flying, to be honest, but people have already been talking about doxing me here.... So I think I'll pass. The scale was purposely skewed. You have reasons for wanting to protect your privacy. Can't you understand how your neighbors might have the same concerns? They have no idea what your intentions are, or what you intend to do with the footage your drone may be capturing. |
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