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Posted: 6/29/2022 11:43:25 AM EST
For some reason i have gotten the itch where i'm wanting to get a M1A SOCOM 16.  I'm aware of most of the cons, (Heavy, loud, lots of concussion, not super accurate) for folks that bought one, have you enjoyed it? would you do it again?  
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:45:48 AM EST
[#1]
Why no PTR91, so you can do "the slap".

Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:47:28 AM EST
[#2]
Scout Squad > SOCOM 16
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:48:39 AM EST
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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:48:49 AM EST
[#4]
I always wanted one and bought one right before covid hit. I love it.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:52:09 AM EST
[#5]
Had one for a couple years, ended up selling it and getting the full length M1a.

They’re fun. Front sight is thick so shooting small things close is challenging.

I’d recommend a red dot setup.

Don’t make the thing what it’s not. You can get some good accurate loads, lighter bullets (110-125gr) tend to shoot better than mid (150gr) or heavy. (168gr+)

Blasting 308 is expensive and the SOCOM 16 is a blasting rifle.

Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:53:23 AM EST
[#6]
I don't have one, but my son does. It's a great shooter. I've never shot it for groups, but it seems reasonably accurate to me. He has an Aimpoint on his.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:53:39 AM EST
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I had one and sold it. Too heavy to be a field gun and not accurate enough to be a bench gun.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:54:55 AM EST
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This.  As dumb as the M14 was, going with the 22” over the 18” barrel was among the dumbest parts.  And being among the dumbest parts of M14 is an accomplishment,
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:55:47 AM EST
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This.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:56:00 AM EST
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I picked-up both of these (SOCOM & Scout) for $950 each a few years ago.  I actually prefer the SOCOM.



Here's some motivation.

Springfield M1A SOCOM 16: The Muscle Car of Rifles
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:57:25 AM EST
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This.

Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:57:38 AM EST
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I have the Scout Squad. I really like it along with everyone that's shot it at my deer camp.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:57:55 AM EST
[#14]
Had one for years, it was a fun shooter. Sold it when I sold my place in the mountains in PA.

Bought another one when they were on sale at PSA a few months back. Haven't gotten it to the range yet.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 11:58:36 AM EST
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I picked-up both of these (SOCOM & Scout) for $950 each a few years ago.  I actually prefer the SOCOM.

https://i.imgur.com/SWMQcCS.jpg

Here's some motivation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEVRWzy7SQ
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yeah that colion noir video i think is what turned my somewhat passing interest in to an actual itch.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:02:05 PM EST
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I picked-up both of these (SOCOM & Scout) for $950 each a few years ago.  I actually prefer the SOCOM.

https://i.imgur.com/SWMQcCS.jpg

Here's some motivation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEVRWzy7SQ
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What's the maximum effective if one had to? What is your best overall round to run through it? Thanks
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:02:49 PM EST
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yeah that colion noir video i think is what turned my somewhat passing interest in to an actual itch.
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And helped keep me from getting rid of mine for "the next gun".

It's also a great travel rifle if using 10 round mags.  Should be legal in most States, and can take care of any problem.  And it doesn't look as "scary" as the FAL, G3, AR10, Scars, etc.

Here's how the Scout looks today.  I see SA just came out with a similar paint scheme and copied me.  

Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:03:47 PM EST
[#18]
I love mine I'll never get rid of it

Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:04:30 PM EST
[#19]
My buddy got the CQB version. He prefers his PSA 308 AR.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:06:57 PM EST
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Well there's no accounting for taste
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:08:42 PM EST
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Not exactly the same, but I have been hankering for a .308 Garand Tanker.  Something about a slick rifle with no magazine sticking out the bottom seems appealing.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:08:45 PM EST
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Nice! Anything different about suppressing it?
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:13:15 PM EST
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Yeah. You're going to need a Schuster adjustable gas plug, but as a warning it's still gassy. You get a lot of stuff coming out of that ejection port. It's fun suppressed but it also beats the gun up a lot more. I don't run it that much suppressed. It's just fun to shoot unsuppressed and I have no problem with the RDS setup hitting steel plates out to 300 yards where I shoot.

It's really a nice little 308 to have so to speak. And if you shop around you can still find magazines for around 25 bucks a piece new
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:13:44 PM EST
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Want.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:13:52 PM EST
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I don't have any personal experience to share in that area.  I just use PVRI .308.  I don't think I've shot it past 75 yards off hand.  But there's plenty of google info. available.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:18:39 PM EST
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This.  As dumb as the M14 was, going with the 22” over the 18” barrel was among the dumbest parts.  And being among the dumbest parts of M14 is an accomplishment,
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This.  As dumb as the M14 was, going with the 22” over the 18” barrel was among the dumbest parts.  And being among the dumbest parts of M14 is an accomplishment,



M14 is too heavy. A GI could carry 2.5x the ammo if he uses a m16/m4!


“Stupid Boomers and their heavy “battle rifles” join the 21st century!”


“Behold, the future!”

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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:19:21 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:21:02 PM EST
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SOCOM 16
GI stock
GI handguard
New muzzle device
New gas block
Height correct NM front sight (nice and thin vs thick ass stock blade)
Smaller peep rear sight


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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:24:06 PM EST
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I got one after I won a Supermatch in a raffle. I didn't need one, but I got the M1A bug. I've had a lot of fun shooting it.


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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:27:26 PM EST
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I have the SOCOM and the standard M1A. Love them both. Really love the SOCOM. 308 in that short package is very handy. Mine is in a GI fiberglass stock.

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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:29:18 PM EST
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FAL > M1A

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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:31:15 PM EST
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For some reason i have gotten the itch where i'm wanting to get a M1A SOCOM 16.  I'm aware of most of the cons, (Heavy, loud, lots of concussion, not super accurate) for folks that bought one, have you enjoyed it? would you do it again?  
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Get the 18" version. If it comes with a muzzle brake dump it and get a flash suppressor. It's really not that bad to shoot without the brake.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:35:57 PM EST
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@Dog1

Where did you get that stock?
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:38:47 PM EST
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Wish I had gotten this stock. Mine has the kryptek
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:39:52 PM EST
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M14 is too heavy. A GI could carry 2.5x the ammo if he uses a m16/m4!


“Stupid Boomers and their heavy “battle rifles” join the 21st century!”


“Behold, the future!”

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Yeah, no one who actually carried a rifle in combat thinks that the SIG is the future.

As far as the M1A in any flavor:

Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:41:43 PM EST
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I had one. Loved it. Stupidly sold it. Regretted it for the last six years. Want one again.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 12:59:46 PM EST
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@davidb1982


Made it myself. It's a old fiberglass USGI fiberglass stock that I used stencils that I made out of blue painters tape.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 1:08:35 PM EST
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I picked-up both of these (SOCOM & Scout) for $950 each a few years ago.  I actually prefer the SOCOM.

https://i.imgur.com/SWMQcCS.jpg

Here's some motivation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndEVRWzy7SQ
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Ditto. Sold the scout, though i prefer the front sight.

Haven't shot the SOCOM in a few years, though.   Maybe i should.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 1:18:25 PM EST
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I owned the VLTOR version for a month. Sold it after the first range trip.

it was expensive to shoot, loud, hurt my teeth, and heavy as hell. Felt like most of the powder was going off as a flashbang instead of propellant. I came out even so it was worth it, but no hurry to ever do it again.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 1:21:08 PM EST
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Link Posted: 6/29/2022 1:22:47 PM EST
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Do it!
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 1:23:48 PM EST
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Thoughts on the M1A Tanker?
16" 308 with a brake will be way loud. Already have a DSA Para FAL, and a new production wood stock Mini14.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 1:23:49 PM EST
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For some reason i have gotten the itch where i'm wanting to get a M1A SOCOM 16.  I'm aware of most of the cons, (Heavy, loud, lots of concussion, not super accurate) for folks that bought one, have you enjoyed it? would you do it again?  
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I shot one once.  too front heavy, heck too heavy in general.  FAL caries its weight much better.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 1:26:50 PM EST
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My brother has one.  He likes it.  I shot an almost sub Moa group with it the day he was getting it sighted in.

I prefer my Tavor 7.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 2:09:09 PM EST
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Had this SOCOM16
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Traded it in for the SIG716G2 Patrol (below) because I love my SIG716I (bottom) so much and wanted mag compatibility.
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Here is the 716I
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Both are way more accurate without needing upgrades or modifications and constant maintenance to keep them accurate and I can swap mags, drums, lower receivers and most small parts between the two.

I would never buy a M1A again as a Battle Rifle even though it is up to the task. It is an antiquated design IMO and though functional there are several better options.

I always found it odd nobody ever really mentions just how hot that scout rail and barrel get during the rapid firing of a drum or a few mags....

I do plan on getting a nice wood stock M1A Standard to refinish and set up next to my Old Guard wall when once I get my office back.

ETA...
If you have the money and just want to fuck off with something different then fuck yes do it. it was a fun gun just not practical but can be modernized for the right coin.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 2:24:05 PM EST
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SOCOM 16
GI stock
GI handguard
New muzzle device
New gas block
Height correct NM front sight (nice and thin vs thick ass stock blade)
Smaller peep rear sight


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That's pretty much exactly what I have done to mine (suppressor adapter on it at the moment).  The only time I miss the old chunky sights is when hunting and it's starting to get dark.

I have a couple of scouts as well, and a couple full size. I use the SOCOM the most.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 2:28:44 PM EST
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Yup, and for us ban state folks, they make a NY legal model. All you lose is the compensator or flashhider and the bayonet lug. Standard stock, detachable mag, and if they ever mandate a fixed mag - the ability to load with stripper clips.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 2:29:35 PM EST
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This is my complaint about the FAL (never owned an M1A).  Too heavy to be practical in the field, and accuracy is typically pretty poor.  

But my love affair with the FAL lasted probably ten or so years, and I had some good times with them.  They were fun to build and parkerize.
Link Posted: 6/29/2022 2:33:23 PM EST
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Yeah, no one who actually carried a rifle in combat thinks that the SIG is the future.

As far as the M1A in any flavor:

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M14 is too heavy. A GI could carry 2.5x the ammo if he uses a m16/m4!


“Stupid Boomers and their heavy “battle rifles” join the 21st century!”


“Behold, the future!”

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170028/D1601547-5CF2-4C16-9CDF-5293C54532F5_jpe-2435447.JPG









Yeah, no one who actually carried a rifle in combat thinks that the SIG is the future.

As far as the M1A in any flavor:

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Old GI’s thought the m16 was a step back from 308.

They were vindicated when the early m16s jammed.

Nothing wrong with the M14 in semi. The criteria set by the mil made it try to do too many things.

It was set up failure and at a critical time between weapon designs and doctrine.

Historically, it was vanilla. Fixed the Garands limitations but not innovative enough post Vietnam.



Link Posted: 6/29/2022 2:37:17 PM EST
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I just picked up a '91 with all GI parts (Short of the receiver) and am looking to get an 18inch one as well.
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