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Posted: 12/13/2021 11:29:57 AM EDT
With centerfire ammo so expensive and retirement around the corner I asked the RO if I could shoot the CMP course of fire with a .22 because...because 6 cents a round is why. He said it was fine by him.
Before the rest of you hotshots jump in and tell me my scores are going to tank, so what? Like a lot of us I've been holed up too much because of this damned Covid and I want to get out and socialize and have some fun. I have beaucoup .223 stashed and want to sit on it. I'm am only going to compete against myself and my last score. What counts here is getting out and just shooting for the hell of it. That being said, I am reasonably certain there are a crackpot or two that shoot a .22 at 200 yards. Any advice on come-ups for 200 yards from a 50 yard zero would be appreciated If you are too embarrassed to admit you shoot a 22 at 200 yards that's OK. Just put on one of those Groucho Marx glasses before you type and I won't tell anybody who you are. ETA while you're at it, what's a good set of 200 yard come-ups for a Ruger MKIV 22/45, 5.5 inch barrel zeroed at 2 yards? WTF. Why not? |
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It's pretty common practice these days to shoot .22 at 200. I think the nrl guys do it every weekend. I don't have the specifics you are asking for, but I'm sure someone will be along shortly. I'm sure they are going to ask you what rifle and ammo you intend on using.
I've read about plenty of people successfully going out past 400 with .22 as well. |
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There is a league at my club which shoots 22 at 300 yards. Buffalo Steel or something. They say cloud cover vs full sun will affect bullet trajectory and is noticeable at that distance.
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When I belonged to a gun club, we had a group of retired marines who would meet every thursday. They would set up boards of asprin glued to target boards at 200yds. They were using match grade .22s like Rem 40x or Win 52d with diopter sites. One shot per pill. Whoever had the least # of hits paid for lunch. Those guys were fantastic shots.
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Ten years ago or so a member here put on a rimfire match that included a stage with 3" steel swingers every ten yards from 10 yards to 200 yards. You had ten minutes to hit as many as you could, as much ammo as you had, and a spotter. That was truly a lot of fun, and not as easy as it sounds when you get out past 150 with a breeze.
I shot the match with a suppressed CZ452 American and a cheap Weaver scope I'd keep at 4x so it wouldn't mess up my holdovers. |
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I shoot 22 at 200 as often as I get to the range. It’s a blast to shoot suppressed at steel. I’ll also shoot it at 300, but have to hold over because I run out of elevation adjustment on my scope. If I remember correctly I have a 20 MOA base and a Viper PST Gen 1.
ETA: I shoot CCI standard velocity and the rifle is zeroed at 50 yards. I think I dial 26 MOA when shooting at 200 yards. |
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Quoted: ETA while you're at it, what's a good set of 200 yard come-ups for a Ruger MKIV 22/45, 5.5 inch barrel zeroed at 2 yards? WTF. Why not? View Quote No particular reason........just sounds funny |
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I shoot .22 at 100 yards for Mini Palma competitions.
With these little subsonic (Match) bullets, shifting winds are always a significant factor. I would try hypersonic ammo for 200 yards. Wind is still going to play hell on your groups. You won't have the ballistics or the velocity that .223 offers. |
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From what I remember of goofing around with my ar and a 22 conversion kit, its about 10 feet of drop for cci standard velocity from a 50 yard zero out of a 16 inch barrel.
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Quoted: When I belonged to a gun club, we had a group of retired marines who would meet every thursday. They would set up boards of asprin glued to target boards at 200yds. They were using match grade .22s like Rem 40x or Win 52d with diopter sites. One shot per pill. Whoever had the least # of hits paid for lunch. Those guys were fantastic shots. View Quote They do the same thing at my club, but at 100 yards. I call them the Pill Poppers. |
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Quoted: No particular reason........just sounds funny View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: ETA while you're at it, what's a good set of 200 yard come-ups for a Ruger MKIV 22/45, 5.5 inch barrel zeroed at 2 yards? WTF. Why not? No particular reason........just sounds funny WTF. Back in 1956 I saw the Lone Ranger shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand at about 600 yards while riding Silver at a full gallop. It doesn't hurt to ask. |
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You’re going to love watching the bullet arc in on target through your scope when the sun is just right. It’s a good time.
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I've shot my 40X training rifle out to 400. At that point it's about like mortar fire but tons of fun. Hitting IPSC targets at 300 is easy if the wind isn't too bad.
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Quoted: I shoot 22 at 200 as often as I get to the range. It’s a blast to shoot suppressed at steel. I’ll also shoot it at 300, but have to hold over because I run out of elevation adjustment on my scope. If I remember correctly I have a 20 MOA base and a Viper PST Gen 1. ETA: I shoot CCI standard velocity and the rifle is zeroed at 50 yards. I think I dial 26 MOA when shooting at 200 yards. View Quote I'm at 24 MOA with Lapua Center X so that's a pretty good starting point. |
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I usually shoot on the 100 yard range at a 4" swinger , ammo selection seems to be a big factor. Would try 200 if it was possible.
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In for the info. I just ordered a 20 MOA scope base for my .22lr rifle last night, so this is timely.
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I shoot my Ruger Precision Rimfire out to 200 yards pretty often. I have a Diamondback Tactical 4-16x44 FFP on it and the reticle seems to be perfect for the application. It’s a great tool for cheaply practicing “long distance” (long for a rimfire, anyway) holdovers and adjusting for wind.
I can go shoot my real precision rifle about 50 times for $80-100 depending on the load, or I can shoot 100 Target MiniMags through the Precision Rimfire in one session for like $12. It’s also just pretty cool to shoot a suppressed .22 out to 200+ yards. Rimfire isn’t a replacement for real long distance practice with a centerfire, but it’s a cheap way to get more practice adjusting for range and wind changes, and the mechanics of shooting it are no different than shooting a bigger caliber. |
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I am often shooting my 22 pistol out to 500 yards on a 6 inch steel plate. Come on this is GD. Seriously though I have fun shooting 22s kind of far and trying to make up for the drop.for the locations I don’t have a ton of room I use that CCI quiet some days you are just lobbing them in there.
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We shoot out to 200+ in PRS Rimfire matches. Ideally, you need a scope with enough elevation to dial. I use a Vortex Viper PST Gen II with an Area 419 30 MOA rail. As far as data, I use a Kestrel 5700 but there are apps that work well. I recommend Geo Ballistics but there are others.
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My Vudoo is zeroed at 50 yards. 200yards is 7.31 mil of elevation with SK plus .134 BC and 1055 FPS
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Any kind of shooting competition that lets you talk a little good natured smack at your friends/family is perfect for the holidays.
For a few years my family did a 600y (distance varied from year to year) 1-shot challenge over the holidays. No zero verification, just one round per customer, just for bragging rights (couple times we did “furthest from the target buys a bottle of whiskey which we communally drink that night”). Target was approx 1”x4”. Not for .22s, though. I won it with my .308 one year. My cousin (who shoots some F-class) usually beat everybody. I’ve shot at jackrabbits and such at those ranges, but seldom shoot paper farther than 100y with .22 (besides, I’m out of match .22) |
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Quoted: Once you have the dope it's easy. Just yesterday I was shooting my .22 bolt gun at the 12" steel gong at 200. It takes 21 MOA of elevation. Hell, I used to walk my 12 year old daughter in on the 200 yard gong with this rifle and she would burn through a brick of .22 pinging the steel and giggling. It will challenge your wind call abilities. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170924/Rifle_4_reduced-2201840.jpg View Quote Can you post a pic of the pistol grip adaptor you have on that rifle? |
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I did a bit of rimfire silhouette shooting. Thats some fun stuff right there, and very challenging. I think 100 yards was the longest shot.
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Go big or go home…buy a Vudoo. I’m hoping to pop balloons with mine at 600. It just came in the other day. Attached File
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Quoted: WTF. Back in 1956 I saw the Lone Ranger shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand at about 600 yards while riding Silver at a full gallop. It doesn't hurt to ask. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ETA while you're at it, what's a good set of 200 yard come-ups for a Ruger MKIV 22/45, 5.5 inch barrel zeroed at 2 yards? WTF. Why not? No particular reason........just sounds funny WTF. Back in 1956 I saw the Lone Ranger shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand at about 600 yards while riding Silver at a full gallop. It doesn't hurt to ask. Will Seeing Eye Cat be your spotter?? |
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On a whim I started looking at this, and as close as I can figure you are going to need to elevate your rear tech sight by at least .050 - more like .065 if you want to hold 6 o'clock.
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I occasionally plink at my 200 yard gong, I just just aim 3' high and generally hit it.
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Tag. I think this is interesting as heck.
We get so wrapped up in what conventional wisdom says (“you can’t shoot long range with a .22!”) that we forget to even try. I’d *love* to try this one day. |
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Quoted: I've shot my 40X training rifle out to 400. At that point it's about like mortar fire but tons of fun. Hitting IPSC targets at 300 is easy if the wind isn't too bad. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/68732/C87CB3EF-5B29-4E35-A41C-B96ECFC26A8E_jpe-2202356.JPG View Quote I knew I didn't have to call Charlie Chan to solve this mystery. I'm more than aware this isn't totally accurate for my rifle but it is at least a starting point. I think I will use the top of the target frame as a point of hold and start my come-ups from there. Years ago I entered a match with somebody's great uncles Banana Wars bringback and he told me it shot high so I held on the bottom of the target frame and worked up from there. I did OK. Of course because it's MY story I won the whole shooting match, was awarded a $750,000 endorsement contract and was surrounded by supermodel shooting groupies for months afterwards. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. |
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I enjoy the hell out of blasting my bone stock 10/22 with iron sights 200 yds. It's ridiculously fun to do. I never shoot groups, just bang at steel but it's about a 6ft hold over.
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I was just touring a range where the RO said people were using their .22lr to shoot out to 400yrds. You're a crazy MF Pic, but you're not that crazy.
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Shooting 22lr at extended range is a wonderful training tool.
Its like a big boi rifle at 3x the range but cheaper and sometimes more challenging. |
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Quoted: Can you post a pic of the pistol grip adaptor you have on that rifle? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Once you have the dope it's easy. Just yesterday I was shooting my .22 bolt gun at the 12" steel gong at 200. It takes 21 MOA of elevation. Hell, I used to walk my 12 year old daughter in on the 200 yard gong with this rifle and she would burn through a brick of .22 pinging the steel and giggling. It will challenge your wind call abilities. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/170924/Rifle_4_reduced-2201840.jpg Can you post a pic of the pistol grip adaptor you have on that rifle? Will do. If you're expecting something nice, prepare yourself for disappointment. |
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Quoted: I've shot my 40X training rifle out to 400. At that point it's about like mortar fire but tons of fun. Hitting IPSC targets at 300 is easy if the wind isn't too bad. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/68732/C87CB3EF-5B29-4E35-A41C-B96ECFC26A8E_jpe-2202356.JPG View Quote |
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Quoted: I've shot my 40X training rifle out to 400. At that point it's about like mortar fire but tons of fun. Hitting IPSC targets at 300 is easy if the wind isn't too bad. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/68732/C87CB3EF-5B29-4E35-A41C-B96ECFC26A8E_jpe-2202356.JPG View Quote Copy made, printed and off to Kinkos to have it laminated. |
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Ruger precision rimfire, good amount of built in MOA elevation, ELEY ammo and light wind; you can shoot out to 400 yards and hit steel. And thats a cheap rifle compared to what others are using.
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Quoted: In for the info. I just ordered a 20 MOA scope base for my .22lr rifle last night, so this is timely. View Quote I heard in England for the very very low power unregulated air guns they have adjustable scope bases to help account for the considerable amount of drop. Since their velocity is so so low no scope can account for the drop at typical pellet gun ranges so they need some sort of adjustable scope base. It doesn't seem like it'd be too hard to make an old fashioned scope base where elevation can be accurately adjusted with the base for long range shooters. |
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Quoted: I heard in England for the very very low power unregulated air guns they have adjustable scope bases to help account for the considerable amount of drop. Since their velocity is so so low no scope can account for the drop at typical pellet gun ranges so they need some sort of adjustable scope base. It doesn't seem like it'd be too hard to make an old fashioned scope base where elevation can be accurately adjusted with the base for long range shooters. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: In for the info. I just ordered a 20 MOA scope base for my .22lr rifle last night, so this is timely. I heard in England for the very very low power unregulated air guns they have adjustable scope bases to help account for the considerable amount of drop. Since their velocity is so so low no scope can account for the drop at typical pellet gun ranges so they need some sort of adjustable scope base. It doesn't seem like it'd be too hard to make an old fashioned scope base where elevation can be accurately adjusted with the base for long range shooters. The old way was using shims under the scope bases. Now you can buy rails and rings with built in elevation. Not to mention the much more expensive attachments for the front of scopes that do the same thing. |
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Done it before. With supers its roughly equivalent to 308 at 1k yards in terms of drop. Wind is a bit worse though. We were using a full volquartsen 10/22 rifle.
We even made some hits on a 10x12 silhouette using a 22/45 with a red dot from a rest. ETA, it's been a while and I may be confusing 200yards with 300 and a 22. |
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I shot a CZ 457 .22lr out to 300+ last fall and intend to do some more, soon.
I haven't chrono'ed any ammo yet. What I have done is to find a estimated BC and velocity for each load I shoot, plug in exact sight height and zero range data, and the Hornady ballistics app (available online or, I think, as a free download) has nailed it within a minute or so, every time. 200 isn't even difficult, with a scope. Irons will change that, of course. |
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Use to hunt gophers in MT in my youth with open sights.
If I could see them I could kill them. Had very sharp eyesight in my youth till I got very sick. I have taken ptarmigan at 200 yards with a scoped .22. I learned Kentucky windage and shoot into or with the wind. Lot of fun though hunting ptarmigan when I have 20mph crosswind. |
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I love shooting 22 at 200. It's a great way to practice fundamentals.
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