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Yes, there are some out there-- Olympic Arms (there's that name again) made an AR in .30 M1 as a factory number for years, and it was a great seller as long as the surplus ammo held out. The mag catch was modified to work with issue mags. They dropped it in 2006 after two years with no orders for them. I bought what I think is the very last one, and it is a serious hoot, but is certainly outperformed by the Blackout.
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So an antiquated anemic round with finicky mags?
Probably because no one wants one besides you. You don't even want one. Buy an m1 carbine, you'll be happier. |
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Quoted: Yes, there are some out there-- Olympic Arms (there's that name again) made an AR in .30 M1 as a factory number for years, and it was a great seller as long as the surplus ammo held out. The mag catch was modified to work with issue mags. They dropped it in 2006 after two years with no orders for them. I bought what I think is the very last one, and it is a serious hoot, but is certainly outperformed by the Blackout. View Quote This. I had an idea to build an AR in every .30 variant I could find at one point. I have 300BLK, 7.62x39 and .308 and considered trying to source the parts for 30 carbine and Tokarev (Ronald Williams goods). I'm glad I didn't throw money at those ideas because the surplus ammo that used to be $150 for 2500 rounds is long gone. |
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A Carbine in .45 Win Mag sounds more interesting.
Test fire M1 Carbine converted to 45 Win Mag Rogue Gunn Works |
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Olympic Arms experimented with doing a 30 carbine AR-15 some years ago. IIRC one of the issues was that the mag width required the upper receiver to have material hogged out to let it all work.
Sven Manticore Arms |
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Olympic Arms made them. They weren’t big sellers.
https://www.okshooters.com/threads/olympic-arms-ar-in-30-carbine.226606/ |
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Somebody, maybe IMI, had a 30 carbine PDW in the works at one time, that would have been nice to have.
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Quoted: Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Israelis made one. I cannot recall what it was called though. Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg Y tho |
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Quoted: We have enough AR shit. Most of it was “cool” at one time and just takes up wall space these days. View Quote Attached File |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Israelis made one. I cannot recall what it was called though. Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg Y tho Israelis had a whole bunch of surplus military aid M1 Carbines, ammo, mags etc. so they made a gun to use them for lower tier security units. |
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Only a hobbist would do this. It would be a money losing endeavor for any company to attempt something this. Think about R&D and profits/sales analysis. If I ran a gun manufacturing co. and someone comes to me with this idea he would be fired on the spot.
Also, there are AR 9mm and 300 blackout so it would make a .30 Carbine AR pointless after R&D. |
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Quoted: Both my AR's are the same weight/lighter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I love suppressed pcc's. I have been dreaming up my ideal cartridge. It would be shortened 30carbine case that would be subsonic with a 110g bullet. A must have for my idea is a stratewalled case for easy reloading.
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Quoted: Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Israelis made one. I cannot recall what it was called though. Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg Huh! So that's what this polymer furniture is for. I have a chassis/main grip for that thing. No idea where I picked it up. |
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I don’t really see the point. The only reason to use .30 carbine is in an M1. There are better cartridges for anything you want to do in an AR15.
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Quoted: At this time, you'd be happier running a 300BO View Quote 30 carbine is usually cheaper (currently about the same) 30 carbine also is not perfectly suited to grenading a 5.56 AR - unlike 300 BlowUp That being said, 30 carbine isn't a good choice overall as others said. I just think 300 is even worse |
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What does .30 carbine do better than any other .30 cartridge available for ARs.
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Quoted: .30 carbine AR15 that takes M1 Carbine magazines. I think it would be a hot seller View Quote |
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Quoted: Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Israelis made one. I cannot recall what it was called though. Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg Well nuts. I kinda like that. |
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Quoted: This. Other cartridges do better for cheaper Hell were there any production rifles other the M1 carbines/clones chambered in it? I only know of a handful of pistols View Quote Yep.....FAMAE / Taurus CT-30 .....I want one badly TAURUS CT30.WMV |
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7.62 x 25mm gets similar performance. I saw an AR15 in that IIRC a few years back.
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It's not that hard to make an adapter. It's mostly a mag filler anyway.
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Quoted: Yeah, weighs 2 lbs. more and by the time all the bullshit accessories are clamped to the picatinny rails, it's about as handy as, and has the profile of, an 8 lb. crucifix. If you want something like an AR chambered in .30 Carbine, buy an M1 Carbine and put it in a folding stock. https://i.imgur.com/sakeZh5l.jpg View Quote What he said. You can even tacticool a M1 Carbine if you want |
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Quoted: Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Israelis made one. I cannot recall what it was called though. Magal. Basically a .30 Carbine Galil that took M1 mags. https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints-depot-restricted/weapons/machine-guns/imi_magal_smg-03896.jpg Did they have like a million loaded M1 Carbine mags lying around or something? Kharn |
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Quoted: .30 carbine AR15 that takes M1 Carbine magazines. I think it would be a hot seller View Quote You’re probably the only one. Or one of maybe s dozen who would actually want something like that. Ergo, not enough demand to justify supplying something like this. |
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30 carbine seems to be close to my 300 blackout loads in some loadings. Funny how some adore the 300 blackout yet revile the 30 carbine.
Nothing wrong with 30 carbine, but carbine mags are not the best design unless you desire it because they are more plentiful Back in the day early tacticool guys necked the 30 carbine down to 223 diameter and it was probably better PDW round than 4.6 or 5.7 which people also adore but revile the 30 carbine version. |
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