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Posted: 9/28/2018 5:31:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryI live near them. It's as much a museum as a store. I'm not much of a black powder guy, but they have several dollars of mine and I make sure to pop in at least once a year. Very good people. One day I will have a flintlock.
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Posted: 9/28/2018 6:06:12 AM EST
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An Allen conversion breechloader? That's cheat'n. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/f/f5/LOTM_002.jpg/604px-LOTM_002.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d5/e5/17/d5e51745a68d6536447b84e84fc724fd.jpg I’d like to have a long rifle like Hawkeye’s in ‘Last of the Mohicans’, though a sawed-off trade rifle would probably be more tribe-correct. My ancestors traded for, stole, or captured whatever they could find. I watched a forensic documentary on Custer’s Last Stand, and the researchers said that the 7th was shot at by at least 43 different types or calibers of firearms. Everything from the latest Winchester repeaters to cut-down muzzleloaders. |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 10:12:19 AM EST
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It's never gonna go boom with good old black powder but I'm trying to put a wooden wall hanger replica of a "Bess" together for my uncles study.
I'd like to get a real one someday for myself! 
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Posted: 9/28/2018 10:20:17 AM EST
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After reading a bunch of Royal Navy themed books including the Aubrey-Maturin series (several times), I want a musketoon.
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Posted: 9/28/2018 11:02:55 AM EST
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OK - I wonder this every time I see your avatar. You're either a builder that I know or you're aware of a builder that I know. So, do you build flintlocks? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Flintlocks have a learning curve of thier own. You'll have learn the basics of loading , cleaning and caring for it BUT you won't have to learn much about ignition . Flintlocks can be cantankerous and you'll need to learn to knap your flint , prick your charge wipe the frizzen . Believe me when I say UNLESS you know someone who shoots flint you will be happier with a hooked breech cap lock . Cleaning will be Much easier with a hooked breech. Which means you can easily remove the barrel and dunk each end into a bucket of hot soapy water , then suck water up and into the tube with a tight patch . So, do you build flintlocks? Im a shooter. I was also a Rifle Range Coach in the Marines . In 1984 I won theColo. State Flintlock Championship ( thats were I get calling myself Rocklock ) Im left handed too , I had John Bergam from Parris Tenn. Build me a rifle in 1982 . Her name is Snipper ! I can post a pic later . Gary |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 11:35:03 AM EST
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Have been shooting front stuffers since the early 1970s. Flinters, percussion - it's all fun!
Even more fun to build your own, and it's not really all that difficult, just time consuming. Here is my scratch-built .36 flint. Bought the barrel, breech plug, lock and triggers, and made everything else (other than some of the screws), Enjoyed forging the trigger guard, buttplate, rear sight, etc. Cold formed the thimbles, patchbox etc, from a rusty piece of sheet steel I dug up behind the house. Boiled all the metal in water / bleach solution to age it, then rubbed it back with steel wool and oil. Not perfect, but I'm pretty pleased with it. Cheers... Jim  IMG_2503 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr
 IMG_2611 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr
 IMG_3380 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr
 IMG_3523 2 by Jim QRB, on Flickr
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Posted: 9/28/2018 11:44:01 AM EST
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It's never gonna go boom with good old black powder but I'm trying to put a wooden wall hanger replica of a "Bess" together for my uncles study. I'd like to get a real one someday for myself! http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah320/Yt71/20180928_102107_zpsd4wh6ddi.jpg http://i1383.photobucket.com/albums/ah320/Yt71/20180928_110001_zpssyo00ytx.jpg I'd like to see it when it's done. |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 11:45:10 AM EST
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Have been shooting front stuffers since the early 1970s. Flinters, percussion - it's all fun! Even more fun to build your own, and it's not really all that difficult, just time consuming. Here is my scratch-built .36 flint. Bought the barrel, breech plug, lock and triggers, and made everything else (other than some of the screws), Enjoyed forging the trigger guard, buttplate, rear sight, etc. Cold formed the thimbles, patchbox etc, from a rusty piece of sheet steel I dug up behind the house. Boiled all the metal in water / bleach solution to age it, then rubbed it back with steel wool and oil. Not perfect, but I'm pretty pleased with it. Cheers... Jim https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1923/44058965725_050c75ef81_z.jpgIMG_2503 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/30034287447_f8970422fd_z.jpgIMG_2611 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1935/31098228618_60774de7f7_z.jpgIMG_3380 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1903/44971055641_7fdc5304ae_z.jpgIMG_3523 2 by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1901/44058963735_54b404ee11_z.jpgIMG_3531 by Jim QRB, on Flickr |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:03:20 PM EST
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No I don't build them , I got into BP in 77' while in Colo. School of Trades ( Gunsmithing) . Im a shooter. I was also a Rifle Range Coach in the Marines . In 1984 I won theColo. State Flintlock Championship ( thats were I get calling myself Rocklock ) Im left handed too , I had John Bergam from Parris Tenn. Build me a rifle in 1982 . Her name is Snipper ! I can post a pic later . Gary Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Flintlocks have a learning curve of thier own. You'll have learn the basics of loading , cleaning and caring for it BUT you won't have to learn much about ignition . Flintlocks can be cantankerous and you'll need to learn to knap your flint , prick your charge wipe the frizzen . Believe me when I say UNLESS you know someone who shoots flint you will be happier with a hooked breech cap lock . Cleaning will be Much easier with a hooked breech. Which means you can easily remove the barrel and dunk each end into a bucket of hot soapy water , then suck water up and into the tube with a tight patch . So, do you build flintlocks? Im a shooter. I was also a Rifle Range Coach in the Marines . In 1984 I won theColo. State Flintlock Championship ( thats were I get calling myself Rocklock ) Im left handed too , I had John Bergam from Parris Tenn. Build me a rifle in 1982 . Her name is Snipper ! I can post a pic later . Gary Some times the muzzle loading community is a small world, I’ve ran into guys I know IRL on the board before. 
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:06:51 PM EST
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That's beautiful! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Have been shooting front stuffers since the early 1970s. Flinters, percussion - it's all fun! Even more fun to build your own, and it's not really all that difficult, just time consuming. Here is my scratch-built .36 flint. Bought the barrel, breech plug, lock and triggers, and made everything else (other than some of the screws), Enjoyed forging the trigger guard, buttplate, rear sight, etc. Cold formed the thimbles, patchbox etc, from a rusty piece of sheet steel I dug up behind the house. Boiled all the metal in water / bleach solution to age it, then rubbed it back with steel wool and oil. Not perfect, but I'm pretty pleased with it. Cheers... Jim https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1923/44058965725_050c75ef81_z.jpgIMG_2503 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/30034287447_f8970422fd_z.jpgIMG_2611 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1935/31098228618_60774de7f7_z.jpgIMG_3380 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1903/44971055641_7fdc5304ae_z.jpgIMG_3523 2 by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1901/44058963735_54b404ee11_z.jpgIMG_3531 by Jim QRB, on Flickr I think that would be a very satisfying experience to build something like that!! |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:16:01 PM EST
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Easiest kit to assemble is a James Kibler kit. Check them out.
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:20:37 PM EST
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Have been shooting front stuffers since the early 1970s. Flinters, percussion - it's all fun! Even more fun to build your own, and it's not really all that difficult, just time consuming. Here is my scratch-built .36 flint. Bought the barrel, breech plug, lock and triggers, and made everything else (other than some of the screws), Enjoyed forging the trigger guard, buttplate, rear sight, etc. Cold formed the thimbles, patchbox etc, from a rusty piece of sheet steel I dug up behind the house. Boiled all the metal in water / bleach solution to age it, then rubbed it back with steel wool and oil. Not perfect, but I'm pretty pleased with it. Cheers... Jim https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1923/44058965725_050c75ef81_z.jpgIMG_2503 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/30034287447_f8970422fd_z.jpgIMG_2611 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1935/31098228618_60774de7f7_z.jpgIMG_3380 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1903/44971055641_7fdc5304ae_z.jpgIMG_3523 2 by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1901/44058963735_54b404ee11_z.jpgIMG_3531 by Jim QRB, on Flickr |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:21:17 PM EST
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The only one I would want would be the .40 Cal "Pennsylvania Rifle", only because the movie was awesome.
 Attached File"The rifle used by Nathaniel "Hawkeye" Poe (Daniel Day-Lewis) is the Pennsylvania Flintlock Rifle. The long rifle was developed from the German Jaeger Rifle which eventually evolved into the Pennsylvania rifle by lengthening the barrel, slimming the stock and downsizing the caliber (the original Jaegers were designed to hunt boars and were .62 caliber!)." |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:24:16 PM EST
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The only one I would want would be the .40 Cal "Pennsylvania Rifle", only because the movie was awesome. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/604px-LOTM_002-685863.JPG "The rifle used by Nathaniel "Hawkeye" Poe (Daniel Day-Lewis) is the Pennsylvania Flintlock Rifle. The long rifle was developed from the German Jaeger Rifle which eventually evolved into the Pennsylvania rifle by lengthening the barrel, slimming the stock and downsizing the caliber (the original Jaegers were designed to hunt boars and were .62 caliber!)." I’ve always wanted one in .62. |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:29:14 PM EST
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Restored Original British P-1853 Three Band Enfield type Rifle -
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:34:09 PM EST
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The only one I would want would be the .40 Cal "Pennsylvania Rifle", only because the movie was awesome. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/604px-LOTM_002-685863.JPG "The rifle used by Nathaniel "Hawkeye" Poe (Daniel Day-Lewis) is the Pennsylvania Flintlock Rifle. The long rifle was developed from the German Jaeger Rifle which eventually evolved into the Pennsylvania rifle by lengthening the barrel, slimming the stock and downsizing the caliber (the original Jaegers were designed to hunt boars and were .62 caliber!)." |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:38:33 PM EST
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Why is that? I've thought about getting into BP weapons, and my inclination has always been towards flintlocks. Are flintlocks juat significantly more finicky? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Starting with a Flinter could turn you off to shooting BP . I've thought about getting into BP weapons, and my inclination has always been towards flintlocks. Are flintlocks juat significantly more finicky? Have owned and fired both originals and reproductions of both types. Flint is a hoot to play with and even harder to do accurately. The ignition delay takes a lot of practice to learn how to deal with. The nice pan flash followed by main charge ignition is distracting to say the least. Luckily they are mostly smooth bores and do not have all that much accuracy anyway. Percussion caps, rifled barrels, and Minié balls truly elevated marksmanship to another level. Now you could reliably kill that man and not the guy standing beside him. |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 1:59:16 PM EST
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Percussion caps made a world of difference. Have owned and fired both originals and reproductions of both types. Flint is a hoot to play with and even harder to do accurately. The ignition delay takes a lot of practice to learn how to deal with. The nice pan flash followed by main charge ignition is distracting to say the least. Luckily they are mostly smooth bores and do not have all that much accuracy anyway. Percussion caps, rifled barrels, and Minié balls truly elevated marksmanship to another level. Now you could reliably kill that man and not the guy standing beside him. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Starting with a Flinter could turn you off to shooting BP . I've thought about getting into BP weapons, and my inclination has always been towards flintlocks. Are flintlocks juat significantly more finicky? Have owned and fired both originals and reproductions of both types. Flint is a hoot to play with and even harder to do accurately. The ignition delay takes a lot of practice to learn how to deal with. The nice pan flash followed by main charge ignition is distracting to say the least. Luckily they are mostly smooth bores and do not have all that much accuracy anyway. Percussion caps, rifled barrels, and Minié balls truly elevated marksmanship to another level. Now you could reliably kill that man and not the guy standing beside him. |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 2:12:31 PM EST
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You’d be surprised at how accurately a smooth bore can be shot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Starting with a Flinter could turn you off to shooting BP . I've thought about getting into BP weapons, and my inclination has always been towards flintlocks. Are flintlocks juat significantly more finicky? Have owned and fired both originals and reproductions of both types. Flint is a hoot to play with and even harder to do accurately. The ignition delay takes a lot of practice to learn how to deal with. The nice pan flash followed by main charge ignition is distracting to say the least. Luckily they are mostly smooth bores and do not have all that much accuracy anyway. Percussion caps, rifled barrels, and Minié balls truly elevated marksmanship to another level. Now you could reliably kill that man and not the guy standing beside him. |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 5:59:52 PM EST
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I did make this one .
It is known as The Morko Gonne , the origanal was made 1315 to 1350 , it was caught in a fishermans net in 1815 in Morko Estuary in Sweden. I used to cast bronze and I did the Morko Gonne because I could make it full size ,which I couldnt with the bronze cannons . I made 5 of them , and I sent one to the man who taught me how to do " lost wax casting" he lives in Sweden . He made an appointment at the Military Meuseum and met Charlotte the curator of the meuseum . Here is a photo of my Morko next to the Origanal !  Attached File Attached File Attached FileThere is new thinking on the inscription ,very interesting ,if any one is interested . Im going to make New Post on it in Team . |
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Posted: 9/28/2018 7:18:50 PM EST
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I did make this one . It is known as The Morko Gonne , the origanal was made 1315 to 1350 , it was caught in a fishermans net in 1815 in Morko Estuary in Sweden. I used to cast bronze and I did the Morko Gonne because I could make it full size ,which I couldnt with the bronze cannons . I made 5 of them , and I sent one to the man who taught me how to do " lost wax casting" he lives in Sweden . He made an appointment at the Military Meuseum and met Charlotte the curator of the meuseum . Here is a photo of my Morko next to the Origanal ! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/54321/20161125_104058-686190.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/54321/20161125_103958-686191.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/54321/1_zpsee73b69e-686196.JPG There is new thinking on the inscription ,very interesting ,if any one is interested . Im going to make New Post on it in Team . |
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Posted: 9/29/2018 11:29:27 AM EST
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There is a PARKER HALE 1861 for sale in curio and relic on EEexchange .
650 , they dont get any better than an English made Enfield ! Also Fox muzzle loading kits are a good value ,BUT you can not even buy a kit for 650 |
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Posted: 9/29/2018 11:48:04 AM EST
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I hunt with a 58cal Remington Zouave, I paid $450 for it but the only original parts are the lockwork, everything else is Italian and modern US
It shoots well enough, and likes minie balls |
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Posted: 9/29/2018 11:56:55 AM EST
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Have been shooting front stuffers since the early 1970s. Flinters, percussion - it's all fun! Even more fun to build your own, and it's not really all that difficult, just time consuming. Here is my scratch-built .36 flint. Bought the barrel, breech plug, lock and triggers, and made everything else (other than some of the screws), Enjoyed forging the trigger guard, buttplate, rear sight, etc. Cold formed the thimbles, patchbox etc, from a rusty piece of sheet steel I dug up behind the house. Boiled all the metal in water / bleach solution to age it, then rubbed it back with steel wool and oil. Not perfect, but I'm pretty pleased with it. Cheers... Jim https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1923/44058965725_050c75ef81_z.jpgIMG_2503 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1921/30034287447_f8970422fd_z.jpgIMG_2611 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1935/31098228618_60774de7f7_z.jpgIMG_3380 copy by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1903/44971055641_7fdc5304ae_z.jpgIMG_3523 2 by Jim QRB, on Flickr https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1901/44058963735_54b404ee11_z.jpgIMG_3531 by Jim QRB, on Flickr You can now have this thread! |
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