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Unarmed? Like all those kids at the concert they gunned down? Like all those families they murdered in their homes or trying to flee?
I still think a Dresden or Tokyo level firestorm would be a good next step. |
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It is a war. You need to kill your enemy until they surrender, unequivocally, or you are simply prolonging the misery on both sides.
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When suicide bombing is a common pasttime of your society, this is the kind of thing that happens. Don't want no s**t, don't start no s**t.
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Approaching the Israeli troops with visible backpacks?
The Israeli response was totally appropriate. |
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Ummmm...... are we suppose to sympathize with the shit these people started and like the 87% that overwhelmingly endorse and teach in school?? |
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This thread.
Moral authority to conduct and maintain war stems from your willingness to follow agreed upon rules. Do we want the Israelis raping and skull stomping everyone? You don't shoot unarmed people who are surrendering. Full stop - not a discussion, doing so is a war crime. Rules we, the USA, imposed on other people after kicking their asses in a series of World Wars. And adhering to those sorts of wars allowed us to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan for years and years and years, without our civilian government losing its will to fight. If true, this is a war crime, and should be investigated as such. And then you move on. And that is war - mistakes happen, bad apples exist, you find them, eject them, and move on. |
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I'll have a Coke. At the most charge the soldiers a $25 fine for littering....and dismiss that.
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Quoted: Source The IDF admitted to killing two Palestinian men and burying their bodies with a bulldozer The IDF admitted to killing two Palestinian men and burying their bodies with a bulldozer after Al Jazeera published a video claiming to show the incident, according to an IDF statement to CNN on Saturday. The IDF claimed that the men approached the operational area in central Gaza in a "suspicious manner" and didn't respond to warning shots. The video, filmed from a distance and heavily edited, was released by Al Jazeera on Wednesday. In the video, you can see two men walking along a beach in Gaza, waving white flags, as they approach a wall of rubble dividing the beach, where Israeli soldiers are stationed. As one crosses the barrier, he waves at troops stationed there and is allowed to approach them. He then passes out of view of the camera, and what happens is unclear. The second man turns away from the barrier and begins walking away quickly from the barrier while being followed by an Israeli armored vehicle. He starts waving at the vehicle once he notices it following him but suddenly falls and crumples over, apparently shot. The video cuts to a close-up of an Israeli military bulldozer coming to pick up two corpses. The bulldozer picks up the bodies, burying them under sand and debris. Al Jazeera also accused the Israeli soldiers of trying to cover up the "executions." CNN was able to confirm that the first shot had occurred near Al Rashid Street in central Gaza, using visual evidence, including satellite imagery and videos. They also confirmed that Israeli engineering vehicles had been deployed to that area at the time. The IDF told CNN that the edited video "represents two different incidents." "The first incident occurred in the southern part of the corridor. After the suspect did not respond to a warning shot, the (force) fired in his direction, and he was shot and slightly wounded." The IDF denied that the second shot was the same event, saying that it had occurred in the northern part of the Strip, "Two suspects with bags on their backs observed our forces and approached them in a suspicious manner. After not responding to a warning shot, the forces conducted live fire toward them, as a result of which they were killed. The bodies were moved from the area using the documented tool out of fear of [there] being explosives on the suspects and risk to the forces." After they were killed, their bodies were buried using a bulldozer due to the fear of hidden explosives. View Quote
Two unarmed #Palestinian men were shot dead by #Israeli forces in #Gaza at close range; their bodies were later buried by an army bulldozer in sand and trash. Al Jazeera was able to capture exclusive broadcast footage of the incident. The men waved what looked like white cloth many times to indicate that they were not a threat. They were attempting to take al-Rashid Street, the only accessible road, to get back to their homes in the northern part of the Strip, and were located southwest of Gaza City, close to the Nabulsi Roundabout, according to an Al Jazeera correspondent. They came across the Israeli forces at this point. View Quote View Quote |
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The reporters should go dig them up and open the backpacks.
Nobody wants to do that do they? |
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Sounds to me like a very safe way to deal with the situation. 2 men with backpacks, not responding to warnings, shoot and scoop. No handling of the body's, no EOD teams needed. I wouldn't risk searching the body's if I had heavy equipment.
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Quoted: This thread. Moral authority to conduct and maintain war stems from your willingness to follow agreed upon rules. Do we want the Israelis raping and skull stomping everyone? You don't shoot unarmed people who are surrendering. Full stop - not a discussion, doing so is a war crime. Rules we, the USA, imposed on other people after kicking their asses in a series of World Wars. And adhering to those sorts of wars allowed us to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan for years and years and years, without our civilian government losing its will to fight. If true, this is a war crime, and should be investigated as such. And then you move on. And that is war - mistakes happen, bad apples exist, you find them, eject them, and move on. View Quote How were they unarmed? They had backpacks, they refused to stop. The moral high ground in war is generally where the losers watch their defeat from. The winner is the side that gets to attain moral high ground as they are the ones left to write the history books. There is no justification for losing, none at all. Especially not the sensitive feelings of outsiders looking in. |
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Quoted: This thread. Moral authority to conduct and maintain war stems from your willingness to follow agreed upon rules. Do we want the Israelis raping and skull stomping everyone? You don't shoot unarmed people who are surrendering. Full stop - not a discussion, doing so is a war crime. Rules we, the USA, imposed on other people after kicking their asses in a series of World Wars. And adhering to those sorts of wars allowed us to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan for years and years and years, without our civilian government losing its will to fight. If true, this is a war crime, and should be investigated as such. And then you move on. And that is war - mistakes happen, bad apples exist, you find them, eject them, and move on. View Quote Good job disregarding the relevant details about the story. Takes some serious disconnect to do that! |
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I would have shot them as well, come near me with a bag in a war zone you're going to die.
Who gives a shit how they buried them, they're dead. All this shit is just trying to make Israel look bad, when in fact it's the other way around. Muslims are the liberals of the middle east. |
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Maybe I'm an asshole, but the IDF could go in and kill every single person in Palestine, and I wouldn't give a shit.
They gave them fair warning to GTFO, they stay, that's on them. |
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