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Posted: 8/29/2024 5:37:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've still been rolling out 12th Gen Intel processors laptops/desktops for my customers. Sad state of affairs. Intel is like Boeing now. Wtf is happening with our large American companies?  Marketing MBAs and management are making decisions in a vacuum and they are not consulting tech and engineering. Much of the experience and institutional knowledge has left the building. Standards have been lowered for so long. It's just coming home to roost now. Tech people are looked down upon in favor of lies on glitzy powerpoint presentations. You can't believe it's universal, but it's getting there. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 7:54:41 PM EST
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Yeah. Glad I’m on AMD. The Intel guys are sweating wondering when their CPU is going to die.
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Posted: 8/30/2024 12:08:06 PM EST
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Up 7.5% today.
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Posted: 8/30/2024 12:14:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Up 7.5% today. Intel workforce? Intel prices? Intel Stock price? T_M_S's penis? Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 12:41:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You DEFINITELY need to look at AMD, that's outdated line of thought now. They have been leapfrogging each other the past few gens on best gaming performance, but Intel has only been clawing by by pumping ridiculous amounts of power through the CPUs. They get absolutely clobbered when it comes to efficiency. If the electric bill doesn't bother you, it still matters running with a high end GPU without the room getting hot. I'm about to log off work early and play some games on my desktop with a 13900k and 4090. It's going to be 100 degrees ambient temp today.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2024 2:03:03 PM EST
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Posted: 8/30/2024 2:26:35 PM EST
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:58:09 AM EST
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:09:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they are apparently denying replacement claims from consumers. Of course, larger purchasers like system integrators and OEM's are getting better CS. https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-investigated-for-class-action-for-cpu-crashing-and-instability-issues Oh good, I should get at least $1.87 |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:09:49 AM EST
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:34:10 AM EST
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Tech is getting hit hard. Intel cutting jobs, Dell cutting like 12,000, Cisco 7%. Got to love Bidenomics.
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Posted: 9/6/2024 7:46:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tech is getting hit hard. Intel cutting jobs, Dell cutting like 12,000, Cisco 7%. Got to love Bidenomics. "Demand destruction is the name of the inflation reduction game." ~ probably Jerome Powell |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:04:46 AM EST
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Posted: 9/6/2024 8:12:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My last several builds have all been AMD. The price/performance ratio can't be beat. They have really leveled-up since they introduced the Ryzen processors. Now there is really no reason to consider Intel. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AMD is so brat. It's her turn. One of the big demos at defcon last month was a massive security flaw in AMD processors that allowed control over the system. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:24:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One of the big demos at defcon last month was a massive security flaw in AMD processors that allowed control over the system. Link? |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:40:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One of the big demos at defcon last month was a massive security flaw in AMD processors that allowed control over the system. Link? Yeah, in for link. |
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Posted: 9/6/2024 6:44:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link? just like a lot of other low level potential vulnerabilities, it requires privileged access to the physical system already. in other news, people who have keys can let themselves in. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 12:52:06 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They fly the gay flag for the whole gay month Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is the percentage of H1 employees who are involved in design and manufacturing these CPUs? How woke is intel? They fly the gay flag for the whole gay month  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 1:00:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think This is what he's taking about. just like a lot of other low level potential vulnerabilities, it requires privileged access to the physical system already. in other news, people who have keys can let themselves in. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Link? just like a lot of other low level potential vulnerabilities, it requires privileged access to the physical system already. in other news, people who have keys can let themselves in. All kinds of these come out every year. If you already have physical access to the computer with admin rights you're already fucked. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:39:51 PM EST
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Posted: 9/7/2024 6:45:58 PM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2024 5:59:03 PM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2024 6:09:15 PM EST
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I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one.
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Posted: 9/10/2024 10:08:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I've deleted the majority of this post a couple of times. When I joined 2017, I'd hoped this would be the company I retired from. It felt a lot like the IBM of the 90s where good ideas tended to win. Today, I'm not really sure what I am hoping for. Clearly it's better to have a job, but the reality of the aftermath is going to be more work with less hands and increased brain-drain as people with institutional knowledge depart. I'm a software guy doing software stuff so I don't have any insight into the hardware side of things beyond "Wow, what have you guys been doing?" |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 10:15:52 AM EST
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Quote HistorySo when the PRC attacks Taiwan, they'll get all of TSMC and we'll be fooked even harder. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 10:23:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 7:20:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. well, there's a different school of thought, that, painful as it is, layoffs free up talent to start new companies and re-allocate human resources into more profitable businesses, leading to growth for new sectors and businesses. Yet, losing your job when you're not ready to lose it seems potentially devastating on a personal level. I will say, the severance terms are incredibly generous. Even reasonably new employees who are laid off this time around are going to be ok for a while, plenty of time to find other work or start a new venture. Painful, but necessary. That said, it does seem to be the result of repeated mismanagement over and over and over again and the folks who take the brunt of the mismanagement are generally not the ones managing it. How is management of the company so bad that you need an involuntary layoff every 5 or 6 years? |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 8:10:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. As someone in that industry, keep the government the fuck out of it. Yeah at-will employment and the prospect of getting laid off at the drop of a hat sucks, but no problem has ever been improved by throwing government at it… ever. And yes, I’ve survived dozens of layoffs and been hit by several over the years. I was once the last person laid off in a big RIF. We were all standing around at the end of the day talking about how rough it was and how good it felt to survive another layoff, when one of the angels of death flagged me down - “hey, can I talk to you for a minute…” |
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Posted: 9/15/2024 9:03:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fun voluntary phase has closed and now the fun involuntary phase has begun. I've deleted the majority of this post a couple of times. When I joined 2017, I'd hoped this would be the company I retired from. It felt a lot like the IBM of the 90s where good ideas tended to win. Today, I'm not really sure what I am hoping for. Clearly it's better to have a job, but the reality of the aftermath is going to be more work with less hands and increased brain-drain as people with institutional knowledge depart. I'm a software guy doing software stuff so I don't have any insight into the hardware side of things beyond "Wow, what have you guys been doing?" You still live in the area? I don't think I've seen you drive around town in a while. 
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Posted: 9/15/2024 9:26:29 PM EST
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They should have learned how to code. Nevermind.
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:26:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well, there's a different school of thought, that, painful as it is, layoffs free up talent to start new companies and re-allocate human resources into more profitable businesses, leading to growth for new sectors and businesses. Yet, losing your job when you're not ready to lose it seems potentially devastating on a personal level. I will say, the severance terms are incredibly generous. Even reasonably new employees who are laid off this time around are going to be ok for a while, plenty of time to find other work or start a new venture. Painful, but necessary. That said, it does seem to be the result of repeated mismanagement over and over and over again and the folks who take the brunt of the mismanagement are generally not the ones managing it. How is management of the company so bad that you need an involuntary layoff every 5 or 6 years? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. well, there's a different school of thought, that, painful as it is, layoffs free up talent to start new companies and re-allocate human resources into more profitable businesses, leading to growth for new sectors and businesses. Yet, losing your job when you're not ready to lose it seems potentially devastating on a personal level. I will say, the severance terms are incredibly generous. Even reasonably new employees who are laid off this time around are going to be ok for a while, plenty of time to find other work or start a new venture. Painful, but necessary. That said, it does seem to be the result of repeated mismanagement over and over and over again and the folks who take the brunt of the mismanagement are generally not the ones managing it. How is management of the company so bad that you need an involuntary layoff every 5 or 6 years? Sure, one of those 5,000 may go on to start their own company that grows and employs several people down the road. But the vast majority of the 5,000 will face economic hardship, and be more likely to horde all assets and income and have a negative impact on our economy. I believe you are referencing the voluntary severance terms when you say it's "incredibly generous." The people that aren't planning on taking that offer to retire early will not be offered such a generous severance package. Many young families will be negatively impacted by this. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 9:30:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As someone in that industry, keep the government the fuck out of it. Yeah at-will employment and the prospect of getting laid off at the drop of a hat sucks, but no problem has ever been improved by throwing government at it… ever. And yes, I’ve survived dozens of layoffs and been hit by several over the years. I was once the last person laid off in a big RIF. We were all standing around at the end of the day talking about how rough it was and how good it felt to survive another layoff, when one of the angels of death flagged me down - “hey, can I talk to you for a minute…” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. As someone in that industry, keep the government the fuck out of it. Yeah at-will employment and the prospect of getting laid off at the drop of a hat sucks, but no problem has ever been improved by throwing government at it… ever. And yes, I’ve survived dozens of layoffs and been hit by several over the years. I was once the last person laid off in a big RIF. We were all standing around at the end of the day talking about how rough it was and how good it felt to survive another layoff, when one of the angels of death flagged me down - “hey, can I talk to you for a minute…” You're naive to think the government isn't already involved. A solution as simple as removing government tax breaks for any company doing layoffs wouldn't count as "getting the government involved." It's simply not giving the company a financial advantage that the American people were going giving them. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:43:14 AM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're naive to think the government isn't already involved. A solution as simple as removing government tax breaks for any company doing layoffs wouldn't count as "getting the government involved." It's simply not giving the company a financial advantage that the American people were going giving them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. As someone in that industry, keep the government the fuck out of it. Yeah at-will employment and the prospect of getting laid off at the drop of a hat sucks, but no problem has ever been improved by throwing government at it… ever. And yes, I’ve survived dozens of layoffs and been hit by several over the years. I was once the last person laid off in a big RIF. We were all standing around at the end of the day talking about how rough it was and how good it felt to survive another layoff, when one of the angels of death flagged me down - “hey, can I talk to you for a minute…” You're naive to think the government isn't already involved. A solution as simple as removing government tax breaks for any company doing layoffs wouldn't count as "getting the government involved." It's simply not giving the company a financial advantage that the American people were going giving them. Point is, adding more government is never a good solution. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 10:43:34 AM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You still live in the area? I don't think I've seen you drive around town in a while. Still here :) My driving has been mostly confined to driving kids wherever they need to go. WFH cut down on my driving drastically. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 11:09:07 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Point is, adding more government is never a good solution. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. As someone in that industry, keep the government the fuck out of it. Yeah at-will employment and the prospect of getting laid off at the drop of a hat sucks, but no problem has ever been improved by throwing government at it… ever. And yes, I’ve survived dozens of layoffs and been hit by several over the years. I was once the last person laid off in a big RIF. We were all standing around at the end of the day talking about how rough it was and how good it felt to survive another layoff, when one of the angels of death flagged me down - “hey, can I talk to you for a minute…” You're naive to think the government isn't already involved. A solution as simple as removing government tax breaks for any company doing layoffs wouldn't count as "getting the government involved." It's simply not giving the company a financial advantage that the American people were going giving them. Point is, adding more government is never a good solution. Where we're at today isn't good. Something has to change. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 4:51:08 PM EST
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I spent a long time at Intel spanning their last single-core server part to early in the first product mixing performance and efficiency cores. Server, client, mobile, strategic projects. Pre-silicon verif, post-silicon validation, SoC Architecture, Platform Architecture. Everything from fabrics and cache coherence protocols, system-level perf, writing debug architecture specs, owning SoC and system-level power models, etc.
For those who are still there and rely on the paycheck - the time to leave was a decade ago. I know it's hard if you're in Hillsboro, Folsom, or Chandler but this is going to be a hard, long slog and I would be very careful about betting my family's financial future on the outcome. For those who are blue to the core and will fight for Intel's survival - I give you my respect. Some of the PEs / Sr PEs we poached decided to boomerang back to Intel after being promised carte blanche to fix things and offered large hiring grants. At this point that appears to have been a poor professional and financial decision. If you're following the same path I wish you my best but I do not have high hopes for that future. |
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Posted: 9/16/2024 5:58:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where we're at today isn't good. Something has to change. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I've despised Intel for nearly 35 years, but it still pains me to hear they're laying off 15,000 people. Having been through my fair share of layoffs, they suck and it must suck infinitely more when you get hit by one. I'm all for less government intervention, but this is one area where the government needs to step in. Companies are far too comfortable with layoffs these days. They need to feel the pain before upending so many lives. Corporations want to have all the benefits and advantages of being an American company, without any responsibility to the American people. As someone in that industry, keep the government the fuck out of it. Yeah at-will employment and the prospect of getting laid off at the drop of a hat sucks, but no problem has ever been improved by throwing government at it… ever. And yes, I’ve survived dozens of layoffs and been hit by several over the years. I was once the last person laid off in a big RIF. We were all standing around at the end of the day talking about how rough it was and how good it felt to survive another layoff, when one of the angels of death flagged me down - “hey, can I talk to you for a minute…” You're naive to think the government isn't already involved. A solution as simple as removing government tax breaks for any company doing layoffs wouldn't count as "getting the government involved." It's simply not giving the company a financial advantage that the American people were going giving them. Point is, adding more government is never a good solution. Where we're at today isn't good. Something has to change. If your solution is to add government, I’d rather take my chances with layoffs. |
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Posted: 9/18/2024 9:31:31 PM EST
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Posted: 9/20/2024 11:40:58 PM EST
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Qualcomm has approached Intel about a takeover
Qualcomm recently approached struggling chipmaker Intel about a takeover, CNBC has confirmed. It wasn't clear if Intel had engaged in conversations with Qualcomm or what the terms would be, according to a person familiar with the matter who asked not to be named because the information was confidential. The Wall Street Journal was first to report on the matter. Intel shares initially popped on the news before closing up about 3%, while Qualcomm shares fell about 3% at the close. The deal, if it were to happen, would be one of the largest technology mergers ever. Intel has a market cap of over $90 billion. Once the world's largest chipmaker, Intel has for years been in a downward spiral that accelerated in 2024. The stock had its biggest one-day drop in over 50 years in August after the company reported disappointing earnings. Intel shares are down 53% this year as investors express doubts about the company's costly plans to manufacture and design chips. More at link... |
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Posted: 9/21/2024 3:38:25 AM EST
[#40]
Where did Intel go wrong?
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Posted: 9/22/2024 8:31:14 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did Intel go wrong? You could write a novel answering this question. The short answer? 1. They became totally dependent on the PC market and didn’t pay attention to servers, AI infrastructure, and other lines of business. While they focused on one aspect of the business, it passed them by. They arrogantly ignored AMD’s developments in PC infrastructure. 2. They fell behind the process technology curve. They’re trying to catch up with their fabs - we’ll get an idea of where they sit by the end of next year, but it’s not looking great. 3. The technology business has changed significantly and fundamentally in the last decade - Intel ignored what was going on and didn’t adapt their business model. |
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Posted: 9/22/2024 9:35:50 PM EST
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Posted: 9/23/2024 12:48:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You could write a novel answering this question. The short answer? 1. They became totally dependent on the PC market and didn’t pay attention to servers, AI infrastructure, and other lines of business. While they focused on one aspect of the business, it passed them by. They arrogantly ignored AMD’s developments in PC infrastructure. 2. They fell behind the process technology curve. They’re trying to catch up with their fabs - we’ll get an idea of where they sit by the end of next year, but it’s not looking great. 3. The technology business has changed significantly and fundamentally in the last decade - Intel ignored what was going on and didn’t adapt their business model. Paying sales people $300k, for remote work, plus a hell of a lot of bonuses. And booking out entire cruise ships for staff retreats, and flying big wigs in the company out to the boat in the HELO for a 30 minute speech I'd say probably aren't good for the ol margins. |
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Posted: 9/23/2024 6:59:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Paying sales people $300k, for remote work, plus a hell of a lot of bonuses. And booking out entire cruise ships for staff retreats, and flying big wigs in the company out to the boat in the HELO for a 30 minute speech I'd say probably aren't good for the ol margins. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You could write a novel answering this question. The short answer? 1. They became totally dependent on the PC market and didn’t pay attention to servers, AI infrastructure, and other lines of business. While they focused on one aspect of the business, it passed them by. They arrogantly ignored AMD’s developments in PC infrastructure. 2. They fell behind the process technology curve. They’re trying to catch up with their fabs - we’ll get an idea of where they sit by the end of next year, but it’s not looking great. 3. The technology business has changed significantly and fundamentally in the last decade - Intel ignored what was going on and didn’t adapt their business model. Paying sales people $300k, for remote work, plus a hell of a lot of bonuses. And booking out entire cruise ships for staff retreats, and flying big wigs in the company out to the boat in the HELO for a 30 minute speech I'd say probably aren't good for the ol margins. That’s 90s tech boom behavior. It’s a whole new world out there. It’s a cutthroat, dog-eat-dog situation now. Gotta be hungry and mean. |
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Posted: 9/23/2024 7:34:21 AM EST
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I saw the writing on the wall when they couldn't deliver promised product.
Then we took one of our most expensive products that used their processors and put it against one of our other products that was 1/12th the cost and the cheaper product ran circles around the intel. absolutely wiped the floor. It was eye opening. |
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Posted: 9/23/2024 8:04:06 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did Intel go wrong? Complacency mixed with a good amount of arrogance. |
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Posted: 9/23/2024 8:15:44 AM EST
[#47]
I took the CPM and my last day in office is this Wed. I am just a a lowly tech outside of manufacturing and will miss my team and job, but damn did big blue screw the pooch.
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Posted: 9/23/2024 8:20:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I took the CPM and my last day in office is this Wed. I am just a a lowly tech outside of manufacturing and will miss my team and job, but damn did big blue screw the pooch. CPM is Corporate People Movement. Don’t you love that acronym/euphemism? |
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Posted: 9/23/2024 9:00:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Paying sales people $300k, for remote work, plus a hell of a lot of bonuses. And booking out entire cruise ships for staff retreats, and flying big wigs in the company out to the boat in the HELO for a 30 minute speech I'd say probably aren't good for the ol margins. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You could write a novel answering this question. The short answer? 1. They became totally dependent on the PC market and didn’t pay attention to servers, AI infrastructure, and other lines of business. While they focused on one aspect of the business, it passed them by. They arrogantly ignored AMD’s developments in PC infrastructure. 2. They fell behind the process technology curve. They’re trying to catch up with their fabs - we’ll get an idea of where they sit by the end of next year, but it’s not looking great. 3. The technology business has changed significantly and fundamentally in the last decade - Intel ignored what was going on and didn’t adapt their business model. Paying sales people $300k, for remote work, plus a hell of a lot of bonuses. And booking out entire cruise ships for staff retreats, and flying big wigs in the company out to the boat in the HELO for a 30 minute speech I'd say probably aren't good for the ol margins. $300k for a remote enterprise sales rep has been standard for almost a decade now. You think every tech company is paying that just for fun? |
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Posted: 9/23/2024 10:24:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I took the CPM and my last day in office is this Wed. I am just a a lowly tech outside of manufacturing and will miss my team and job, but damn did big blue screw the pooch. Best of luck with your next thing. I wasn't eligible for the voluntary phase or early retirement. I may be eligible for the involuntary phase, guess I'll find out. |
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