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Posted: 8/28/2023 1:10:27 PM EST
Under normal operation, cold water enters the tank, and is more or less instantly brought up to tank temp without the tank doing any work. When the tank drops to 2-3 degrees below thermostat temp, it heats the water.
If the thermostat is set to 120, it's heating the tank water when it is 117-118 degrees. 117 degree water is hot. Thus, it is a hot water heater. |
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Go try to buy a hot water heater. All you'll find are water heaters.
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The purpose of it is to generate hot water for direct use, as opposed to a boiler or furnace which heats water to create steam or to circulate through radiators. It is a "heater" that produces "hot water" as such it is not redundant.
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And it's not an ATM machine, but most folks don't need therapy after hearing either one. YMMV.
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I want a water heater powered by magic rocks. For personal use.
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Quoted: Under normal operation, cold water enters the tank, and is more or less instantly brought up to tank temp without the tank doing any work. When the tank drops to 2-3 degrees below thermostat temp, it heats the water. If the thermostat is set to 120, it's heating the tank water when it is 117-118 degrees. 117 degree water is hot. Thus, it is a hot water heater. View Quote Not if it's a tankless on demand heater. |
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Quoted: Under normal operation, cold water enters the tank, and is more or less instantly brought up to tank temp without the tank doing any work. When the tank drops to 2-3 degrees below thermostat temp, it heats the water. If the thermostat is set to 120, it's heating the tank water when it is 117-118 degrees. 117 degree water is hot. Thus, it is a hot water heater. View Quote Your argument falls about when tankless water heaters enter the conversaion |
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Hot water heater is a GD autism test.
The failure rate is staggering, yet observably predicable. Reeeeeeeereeeeeeee |
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If the water heater didn’t exist the water wouldn’t be hot. It’s a water heater.
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If the hot water didn't have a heater keeping it hot, it wouldn't stay hot.
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Quoted: Lemur, please... https://www.101diagrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/T-s-Diagram-Steam.svg_.png View Quote Dammit man, I can't read that. My ASHRAE books are in Freedom Units, not Maple Syrup per Moose. |
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if you say "hot water heater", your mom and dad probably met at a family reunion.
And you also probably say VIN number... |
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It’s a water heater. Regardless of what temp the water is inside the tank, if that water is being heated, it’s heating water.
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Quoted: This is an ATM https://www.bankrate.com/2022/09/08101001/How-to-use-atms.jpg This is an ATM machine https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMzc1YTA1ZjItMWRhMy00ZTBlLTkzNTgtNTc4ZDE3YTM3ZDk2XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNDUzOTQ5MjY@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg View Quote underrated post of the day right here |
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Quoted: Your argument falls about when tankless water heaters enter the conversaion View Quote Well that's a tankless water heater. Not a tankless hot water heater. That's obviously redundant. But saying hot water heater while referring to a tanked unit is not technically redundant nor incorrect. Just saying. |
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It just a water heater.
Only a Biden supporter would call it a hot water heater. |
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Quoted: Under normal operation, cold water enters the tank, and is more or less instantly brought up to tank temp without the tank doing any work. When the tank drops to 2-3 degrees below thermostat temp, it heats the water. If the thermostat is set to 120, it's heating the tank water when it is 117-118 degrees. 117 degree water is hot. Thus, it is a hot water heater. View Quote Agreed. In addition, the term also clearly defines its purpose. What does it do? It heats the hot water for your home's hot water service. This is different, say, from a water heater that heats your water for a cup of tea or cocoa. Or, the heater for an outdoor pool A home can have many water heaters. But, the hot water heater? It's for the home's hot water supply. |
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Quoted: The purpose of it is to generate hot water for direct use, as opposed to a boiler or furnace which heats water to create steam or to circulate through radiators. It is a "heater" that produces "hot water" as such it is not redundant. View Quote You said it far more precisely than I managed to. But, this. |
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Quoted: Well that's a tankless water heater. Not a tankless hot water heater. That's obviously redundant. But saying hot water heater while referring to a tanked unit is not technically redundant nor incorrect. Just saying. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Your argument falls about when tankless water heaters enter the conversaion Well that's a tankless water heater. Not a tankless hot water heater. That's obviously redundant. But saying hot water heater while referring to a tanked unit is not technically redundant nor incorrect. Just saying. "Hot" is a relative expression and is defined by the user setting on the water heater. Thus any water below the set temperature is not HOT and needs to be heated. In conclusion, "Water Heater" is technically correct and adding "hot" as a description is redundant and incorrect. |
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I don't GAF what you call it, as long as I don't have to take a cold shower!
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It’s just a water heater. Why would you heat water that’s already hot?
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Quoted: Agreed. In addition, the term also clearly defines its purpose. What does it do? It heats the hot water for your home's hot water service. This is different, say, from a water heater that heats your water for a cup of tea or cocoa. Or, the heater for an outdoor pool A home can have many water heaters. But, the hot water heater? It's for the home's hot water supply. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Under normal operation, cold water enters the tank, and is more or less instantly brought up to tank temp without the tank doing any work. When the tank drops to 2-3 degrees below thermostat temp, it heats the water. If the thermostat is set to 120, it's heating the tank water when it is 117-118 degrees. 117 degree water is hot. Thus, it is a hot water heater. Agreed. In addition, the term also clearly defines its purpose. What does it do? It heats the hot water for your home's hot water service. This is different, say, from a water heater that heats your water for a cup of tea or cocoa. Or, the heater for an outdoor pool A home can have many water heaters. But, the hot water heater? It's for the home's hot water supply. What if I pour hot water into the coffee machine? Does it now magically transform into a hot water heater? What about a pool in summer, does it now become a hot pool water heater? The function is to add heat, as required, to bring water to a preset temperature. Thus, Water Heater! |
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Quoted: Under normal operation, cold water enters the tank, and is more or less instantly brought up to tank temp without the tank doing any work. When the tank drops to 2-3 degrees below thermostat temp, it heats the water. If the thermostat is set to 120, it's heating the tank water when it is 117-118 degrees. 117 degree water is hot. Thus, it is a hot water heater. View Quote No OP, why would you heat..."hot water"? Especially if the water that enters, per your description....is cold. The only instance I can see this..."logic" is if the water made it to your definition or hot at 117 deg then you heated it more...and that's just not how this works. Do you put toast in a toaster, or bread? The heater's sole purpose is to "heat" incoming cold water, thus a "water heater" You aren't supplying hot water to a water heater. |
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Quoted: Quoted: It's just a water heater. Why would you heat water that's already hot? Because it isn't hot enough? It's a "water heater" for a reason. |
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Quoted: What if I pour hot water into the coffee machine? Does it now magically transform into a hot water heater? What about a pool in summer, does it now become a hot pool water heater? The function is to add heat, as required, to bring water to a preset temperature. Thus, Water Heater! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Under normal operation, cold water enters the tank, and is more or less instantly brought up to tank temp without the tank doing any work. When the tank drops to 2-3 degrees below thermostat temp, it heats the water. If the thermostat is set to 120, it's heating the tank water when it is 117-118 degrees. 117 degree water is hot. Thus, it is a hot water heater. Agreed. In addition, the term also clearly defines its purpose. What does it do? It heats the hot water for your home's hot water service. This is different, say, from a water heater that heats your water for a cup of tea or cocoa. Or, the heater for an outdoor pool A home can have many water heaters. But, the hot water heater? It's for the home's hot water supply. What if I pour hot water into the coffee machine? Does it now magically transform into a hot water heater? What about a pool in summer, does it now become a hot pool water heater? The function is to add heat, as required, to bring water to a preset temperature. Thus, Water Heater! No, of course not. Did you read what I posted? Pouring hot water into a coffee machine doesn't magically make it the device that provides your home's hot water supply. The function is to provide a source of hot water to the home. It dose this by use of a heater. Thus, hot water heater. |
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Quoted: No, of course not. Did you read what I posted? Pouring hot water into a coffee machine doesn't magically make it the device that provides your home's hot water supply. The function is to provide a source of hot water to the home. It dose this by use of a heater. Thus, hot water heater. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Under normal operation, cold water enters the tank, and is more or less instantly brought up to tank temp without the tank doing any work. When the tank drops to 2-3 degrees below thermostat temp, it heats the water. If the thermostat is set to 120, it's heating the tank water when it is 117-118 degrees. 117 degree water is hot. Thus, it is a hot water heater. Agreed. In addition, the term also clearly defines its purpose. What does it do? It heats the hot water for your home's hot water service. This is different, say, from a water heater that heats your water for a cup of tea or cocoa. Or, the heater for an outdoor pool A home can have many water heaters. But, the hot water heater? It's for the home's hot water supply. What if I pour hot water into the coffee machine? Does it now magically transform into a hot water heater? What about a pool in summer, does it now become a hot pool water heater? The function is to add heat, as required, to bring water to a preset temperature. Thus, Water Heater! No, of course not. Did you read what I posted? Pouring hot water into a coffee machine doesn't magically make it the device that provides your home's hot water supply. The function is to provide a source of hot water to the home. It dose this by use of a heater. Thus, hot water heater. Then the function would be a Hot Water Source would it not? Or if the function is to heat the water, then... Water Heater? |
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