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Posted: 7/30/2020 3:33:13 AM EDT
Former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of President Trump, found out he had been blocked from accessing his classified notes and records while working on his new memoir. He writes in his forthcoming book, Undaunted: My Fight Against America's Enemies, at Home and Abroad, that after months of "haggling" he discovered the CIA was abiding by the directive Trump gave in August 2018 "that purportedly forbids anyone in the intelligence community from sharing classified information with me." The White House confirmed the directive was being enforced, which is news considering the New York Times reported in May of last year that the president never revoked Brennan's security clearance. "The President has constitutional authority to control access to classified information, which he exercised here in view of Mr. Brennan's erratic behavior and the President's belief that access to classified information should be solely for the benefit of the government and the American people," White House spokesman Judd Deere said. View Quote |
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Quoted: That took far too long. View Quote Well, if you notice the White House nor any .gov office announced he had been cut off. He is evidently self reporting and White House responding to questions. Maybe it was done long ago and he never tried access until now. And maybe the leaks have been eliminated so no one knew until he self reported. Maybe. |
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If he is no longer in that job he should no longer have access. Need to know and he doesnt
This is normal |
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Quoted: If he is no longer in that job he should no longer have access. Need to know and he doesnt This is normal View Quote It certainly should be. If he wanted to continue having access, he should have remained in some capacity at his former employer - where there presumably would be some oversight over what he was allowed to see. |
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The first word in the article, “former”, answers this discussion.
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"The White House confirmed the directive was being enforced, which is news considering the New York Times reported in May of last year that the president never revoked Brennan's security clearance."
This sentence clearly demonstrates the media's confusion over access to classified info. Having a security clearance does not permit you to just go in and start looking at stuff. If you don't have a need to know, then you don't need to access it. Members of the Clinton / Obama cabal never seemed to grasp this simple rule, and have always treated classified info with a very cavalier attitude |
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Send him a redacted version that looks like most of the stuff we get out of a FOIA request. A bunch of sheets of black paper.
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I can't think of a worse means of death to inflict on a person than being buried alive but I'd make a exception for Brennan.
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Forgive me if I sound ignant, since I've never had a clearance, but isn't access to classified info based upon need to know?
What is Brennan's need? "Trying to write a memoir" is more like a want than a need. |
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Quoted: It certainly should be. If he wanted to continue having access, he should have remained in some capacity at his former employer - where there presumably would be some oversight over what he was allowed to see. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If he is no longer in that job he should no longer have access. Need to know and he doesnt This is normal It certainly should be. If he wanted to continue having access, he should have remained in some capacity at his former employer - where there presumably would be some oversight over what he was allowed to see. |
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I guess he didn’t get the memo that he doesn’t work there any more.
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He should have been cut off from accessing classified information the day he left the job.
The asshole abused his position and likely his security clearance the whole time he was at the CIA. The American people have no benefit from his continuing to have access to the nation's highest secrets. |
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Fuck him. He belongs in jail on charges of treason and sedition.
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Clearance does not equal access. As part of my retirement out-processing, I’m being ‘read out’ of classified programs, but will maintain my security clearance. That means I no longer have access to those programs. In any case, I still cannot divulge information regarding those programs. If my successor (for some unknown reason) needs to discuss one of these programs, I can be brought back and ‘read in’ to those programs since I’ll still have a valid clearance.
Key to the whole issue - Access requires the proper level of security clearance AND the need to know. Brennan may still have the clearance (at least until it expires), but he has no ‘need to know’. As the head of the Executive Branch, Trump is the ultimate classification authority. He has the power to decide. |
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Why the hell would anyone not in current employment have access to classified. That should be shut down as soon as they mention they are leaving.
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Might have something to do with two middle eastern guys paying him off on live TV...
Watch John Bolton Take A Bribe And Then Raise His Eyebrows After Pocketing It ! WATCH CLOSELY! Interesting, knowing he was also seen in Qatar back in January https://bigleaguepolitics.com/video-former-national-security-adviser-john-bolton-caught-in-qatar/ EDIT: I guess I'm still asleep and read the title as John Bolton |
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How in the fuck did we end up with a CIA director that admits on the record that he voted for a Communist for President?
Aside from the the whole "voting for a communist" thing, it's proof that he's too fucking stupid to be trusted with anything of importance. |
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Quoted: How in the fuck did we end up with a CIA director that admits on the record that he voted for a Communist for President? Aside from the the whole "voting for a communist" thing, it's proof that he's too fucking stupid to be trusted with anything of importance. View Quote Somewhat related to this entire subject.......question........does this supposed prosecutor named Bulldog Durham really exist? Or is he a "Q" like form of life??? |
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Quoted: How in the fuck did we end up with a CIA director that admits on the record that he voted for a Communist for President? Aside from the the whole "voting for a communist" thing, it's proof that he's too fucking stupid to be trusted with anything of importance. View Quote |
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Quoted: Somewhat related to this entire subject.......question........does this supposed prosecutor named Bulldog Durham really exist? Or is he a "Q" like form of life??? View Quote They're all useless. There's an "code" at the upper echelons of our government - no matter the crime or the political differences (if real political differences even exist at that level), you never ... ever ..., prosecute a fellow political elite. That way each side knows that no matter what temporary political flip is currently in play, none of them will ever personally have to face any real consequences of their actions. There's a set of rules and penalties in our world, and no rules and no penalties in theirs. Once you make it to a certain level in the government, you'll never be called to account for the things you do. It's really the only rule you can count on to almost never be violated by our upper levels of government. |
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He was back to back Making Shit Up Champion in 15-16. He’ll finish his memoir just fine.
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Quoted: That took far too long. View Quote Help me understand why this was not done on his last day his clearance was not longer needed. |
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Quoted: They're all useless. There's an "code" at the upper echelons of our government - no matter the crime or the political differences (if real political differences even exist at that level), you never ... ever ..., prosecute a fellow political elite. That way each side knows that no matter what temporary political flip is currently in play, none of them will ever personally have to face any real consequences of their actions. There's a set of rules and penalties in our world, and no rules and no penalties in theirs. Once you make it to a certain level in the government, you'll never be called to account for the things you do. It's really the only rule you can count on to almost never be violated by our upper levels of government. View Quote We are in TOTAL agreement. "Bulldog Durham".........I mean, come on now elites. |
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Why would a "former" CIA Director still have access to anything after they left the job?
A "former" should lose all access. Especially those who are high up in the chain because they could do the most damage. |
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Quoted: "The White House confirmed the directive was being enforced, which is news considering the New York Times reported in May of last year that the president never revoked Brennan's security clearance." This sentence clearly demonstrates the media's confusion over access to classified info. Having a security clearance does not permit you to just go in and start looking at stuff. If you don't have a need to know, then you don't need to access it. Members of the Clinton / Obama cabal never seemed to grasp this simple rule, and have always treated classified info with a very cavalier attitude View Quote Ever hear of Vault 7? Apparently Brennan’s CIA treated classified material the same as the Clinton’s. Brennan needs to be renditioned to Algeria... |
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Quoted: Why would a "former" CIA Director still have access to anything after they left the job? A "former" should lose all access. Especially those who are high up in the chain because they could do the most damage. View Quote No clearances for former employees, if they must have classified material then they should fill out a request for the material and have it reviewed before giving access. FJB with a cactus. |
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Quoted: "The White House confirmed the directive was being enforced, which is news considering the New York Times reported in May of last year that the president never revoked Brennan's security clearance." This sentence clearly demonstrates the media's confusion over access to classified info. Having a security clearance does not permit you to just go in and start looking at stuff. If you don't have a need to know, then you don't need to access it. Members of the Clinton / Obama cabal never seemed to grasp this simple rule, and have always treated classified info with a very cavalier attitude View Quote They followed "club" rules. I expect it's common amongst former employees and politicians that leave to otherwise private life. |
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