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Quoted: Yup, referenced that in the OP. Again, apparently slavery is still in full swing, so we need these modern-day "heroes". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: He's one of the guys Antifa idolizes. Look up John Brown Gun Club. Bunch of armed commies. Which is ironic, since communism is slavery. |
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John Brown stood with about 30 other “Free Staters” when a force of around 250-400 Border Ruffians from Missouri (pro-slavery scoundrels) attacked Osawatomie Kansas and attempted to burn it down. During the conflict, Brown’s 26 year old son, Frederick, was killed. The battle took pace in 1856.
Wikipedia -The positive impact of the Battle of Osawatomie on the morale of the Free State cause in Kansas Territory and the nation is that John Brown quickly became, and still is, known as “Osawatomie Brown” throughout the nation and worldwide. Free State advocates and abolitionists who were inspired by John Brown and Osawatomie’s Free State defenders increased their efforts to ensure that Kansas would enter the Union as a Free State, which helped to ensure that it did. John Brown made the decision to start his abolitionist crusade as he watched John Reid’s men sack and burn Osawatomie following the Battle of Osawatomie. Brown was saddened that his plan to draw the proslavery forces away from Osawatomie at the Battle of Osawatomie had failed, and he determined as he watched Osawatomie burn that he would work to end slavery on a larger scale. As he saw the smoking ruins of a small Kansas town and the body of his son, John Brown was reputed to have said, “God sees it, I have only a short time to live — only one death to die, and I will die fighting for this cause. There will be no peace in this land until slavery is done for.” Was he crazy? Sure. Was he on the right side of history? Absolutely in the mind of this Kansan. Wouldn’t you be? Now if you want “Kansas Crazy” look up Doc Jennison, Commander of the Red Leg JAYHAWK militia. |
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Quoted: Yeah, good cause; just maybe cold-blooded, 1st-degree murder wasn't the best way to go about righting it. The British ended their slavery in the 1830's, and w/o a single drop of blood shed. View Quote |
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Quoted: Butt... butt... butt... my Jan 6 terrorist insurrection!!! (Never mind that Demoncraps did this multiple times b4 this ) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: I don't know what to think about him, but this is the most ironic sign combo at Harper's Ferry. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60540/inCollage_20180804_112437165_jpg-2596500.JPG View Quote Great pic Truly the definition of Irony. |
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My Great-Great-Grandfather was an Abolitionist of minor notoriety. He had been struck deaf by a childhood fever but given the opportunity to attend college on a scholarship and later travelled the Country teaching sign language to deaf students. He became an advocate for all with disabilities and I believe came to recognize Slavery as the greatest, curable handicap to a full Human life.
Interestingly, I have a copy of his personal diary of two years, written while attending school. The original is on display at the RIT Institute For The Deaf. Reading his diary, I don’t believe he was impassioned about the argument for emancipation (like John Brown was). I believe he just saw it as the natural extension of HIS argument to be treated as a full person despite being deaf. I also have his beaver-fur top hat |
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Quoted: John Brown stood with about 30 other "Free Staters" when a force of around 250-400 Border Ruffians from Missouri (pro-slavery scoundrels) attacked Osawatomie Kansas and attempted to burn it down. During the conflict, Brown's 26 year old son, Frederick, was killed. The battle took pace in 1856. Wikipedia -The positive impact of the Battle of Osawatomie on the morale of the Free State cause in Kansas Territory and the nation is that John Brown quickly became, and still is, known as "Osawatomie Brown" throughout the nation and worldwide. Free State advocates and abolitionists who were inspired by John Brown and Osawatomie's Free State defenders increased their efforts to ensure that Kansas would enter the Union as a Free State, which helped to ensure that it did. John Brown made the decision to start his abolitionist crusade as he watched John Reid's men sack and burn Osawatomie following the Battle of Osawatomie. Brown was saddened that his plan to draw the proslavery forces away from Osawatomie at the Battle of Osawatomie had failed, and he determined as he watched Osawatomie burn that he would work to end slavery on a larger scale. As he saw the smoking ruins of a small Kansas town and the body of his son, John Brown was reputed to have said, "God sees it, I have only a short time to live only one death to die, and I will die fighting for this cause. There will be no peace in this land until slavery is done for." Was he crazy? Sure. Was he on the right side of history? Absolutely in the mind of this Kansan. Wouldn't you be? Now if you want "Kansas Crazy" look up Doc Jennison, Commander of the Red Leg JAYHAWK militia. View Quote Frederick Brown's grave site in Osawatomie. John Brown and his men had camped on the hill just north of Osawatomie on the grounds where the modern day Osawatomie State Hospital (mental health facility) now stands. They were expecting an attack from the east. On the morning of the battle; Frederick rode to his uncle Samuel Adair's cabin just west of town for breakfast. At the cabin site, he ran into the pro-slavery militia advancing on Osawatomie from the west. One of the men recognized who he was and killed him. There is a marker there today placed by Mary Adair who was only 5 years old at the time but had witnessed the shooting. It is said that this memory was seared into her mind and she became a driving force behind the creation of John Brown park, which is the site of the Battle of Osawatomie and the moving of her family's cabin to the park and preserving it. It is now a small museum. John Brown cabin Frederick Brown's body was moved to this location and re-buried along with three other men who died in the battle. Attached File |
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View Quote And that's the MSM crop of that wonderful mural. |
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Quoted: Slavery was never legal in Mainland Britain, only in her Colonies and the Crown very much so did use force and spilled blood to end slavery in her far flung Colonies. The Royal Navy was the main tool used to dispense force and shed blood. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, good cause; just maybe cold-blooded, 1st-degree murder wasn't the best way to go about righting it. The British ended their slavery in the 1830's, and w/o a single drop of blood shed. Hey, glad to see you're still around, haven't seen you much as of late. We of the .40 S&W true believers miss your support. Expect you're busy now with your NRA duties. Can you give me some details about this? Wiki doesn't specify any violence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833 Thanks. |
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Quoted: Frederick Brown's grave site in Osawatomie. John Brown and his men had camped on the hill just north of Osawatomie on the grounds where the modern day Osawatomie State Hospital (mental health facility) now stands. They were expecting an attack from the east. On the morning of the battle; Frederick rode to his uncle Samuel Adair's cabin just west of town for breakfast. At the cabin site, he ran into the pro-slavery militia advancing on Osawatomie from the west. One of the men recognized who he was and killed him. There is a marker there today placed by Mary Adair who was only 5 years old at the time but had witnessed the shooting. It is said that this memory was seared into her mind and she became a driving force behind the creation of John Brown park, which is the site of the Battle of Osawatomie and the moving of her family's cabin to the park and preserving it. It is now a small museum. John Brown cabin Frederick Brown's body was moved to this location and re-buried along with three other men who died in the battle. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276115/2011-03-20_12_41_32_jpg-2598592.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: John Brown stood with about 30 other "Free Staters" when a force of around 250-400 Border Ruffians from Missouri (pro-slavery scoundrels) attacked Osawatomie Kansas and attempted to burn it down. During the conflict, Brown's 26 year old son, Frederick, was killed. The battle took pace in 1856. Wikipedia -The positive impact of the Battle of Osawatomie on the morale of the Free State cause in Kansas Territory and the nation is that John Brown quickly became, and still is, known as "Osawatomie Brown" throughout the nation and worldwide. Free State advocates and abolitionists who were inspired by John Brown and Osawatomie's Free State defenders increased their efforts to ensure that Kansas would enter the Union as a Free State, which helped to ensure that it did. John Brown made the decision to start his abolitionist crusade as he watched John Reid's men sack and burn Osawatomie following the Battle of Osawatomie. Brown was saddened that his plan to draw the proslavery forces away from Osawatomie at the Battle of Osawatomie had failed, and he determined as he watched Osawatomie burn that he would work to end slavery on a larger scale. As he saw the smoking ruins of a small Kansas town and the body of his son, John Brown was reputed to have said, "God sees it, I have only a short time to live only one death to die, and I will die fighting for this cause. There will be no peace in this land until slavery is done for." Was he crazy? Sure. Was he on the right side of history? Absolutely in the mind of this Kansan. Wouldn't you be? Now if you want "Kansas Crazy" look up Doc Jennison, Commander of the Red Leg JAYHAWK militia. Frederick Brown's grave site in Osawatomie. John Brown and his men had camped on the hill just north of Osawatomie on the grounds where the modern day Osawatomie State Hospital (mental health facility) now stands. They were expecting an attack from the east. On the morning of the battle; Frederick rode to his uncle Samuel Adair's cabin just west of town for breakfast. At the cabin site, he ran into the pro-slavery militia advancing on Osawatomie from the west. One of the men recognized who he was and killed him. There is a marker there today placed by Mary Adair who was only 5 years old at the time but had witnessed the shooting. It is said that this memory was seared into her mind and she became a driving force behind the creation of John Brown park, which is the site of the Battle of Osawatomie and the moving of her family's cabin to the park and preserving it. It is now a small museum. John Brown cabin Frederick Brown's body was moved to this location and re-buried along with three other men who died in the battle. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276115/2011-03-20_12_41_32_jpg-2598592.JPG |
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Quoted: Meh. So far as I know, every country had slavery. Never understood the wailing & gnashing of teeth over American slavery, but not Egyptian, Greek, Roman, or every other country's slave trade. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Like any other disease (and slavery was a disease) it had origins that preceded him. You could consider slavery our fatal flaw. Because we imported people from another continent on an industrial scale. |
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A zealot, to be sure. But that is not, in and of itself, a bad thing:
Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. And moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. -Barry Goldwater |
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Quoted: He opposed slavery so he murdered and butchered men, women, and children in that cause. He became a martyr to the American people and we fought a war in his cause that ended slavery. I think he's burning in hell but there's no more slavery so... View Quote |
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Quoted: Loved the audiobook. Two more recomendations: https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61aF0dYZt5L._SL500_.jpg https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51NdfRHzbfL._SL500_.jpg View Quote |
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It's entirely possible to think "slavery is wrong" and also be a mentally ill murderous wackjob.
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Quoted: Because we imported people from another continent on an industrial scale. View Quote Not to absolve the trade, but in fact we did it on a very “cottage” scale compared to the main importers of African slaves. North America accounted for about 4% total of the trade from 1500 to 1900. This is very often poorly understood and overlooked. The French and British (to Caribbean colonies), Spanish, and Portuguese took the vast lion’s share of the Atlantic trade. The Arabian and Indian trade was also not trivial. Sorry the legend is poor, but these are net outflows proportionally, 1500 to 1900: Attached File |
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He was a demon possessed that along with Lincoln rate high in the mass murder top 10. Together they killed over 600 thousand Americans. The devil and his instruments Sent too many to an early grave. Many before they were able accept the Lord. The trauma that those men on both sides suffered during and after the war to. The great mighty union is the result of the total corruption in our land today with the government in your pocket demanding you obey them and not God.
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He was a lunatic crusader who sacrificed his sons' lives for his own moral cause and his own ego.
They shouldn't have hung him. They should have burned him alive. |
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Quoted: @Miami_JBT Hey, glad to see you're still around, haven't seen you much as of late. We of the .40 S&W true believers miss your support. Expect you're busy now with your NRA duties. Can you give me some details about this? Wiki doesn't specify any violence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_Abolition_Act_1833 Thanks. View Quote It was the Colonies that had a scuffle about it. A lot.of it was dealt with locally, rather quickly. |
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Quoted: Not to absolve the trade, but in fact we did it on a very "cottage" scale compared to the main importers of African slaves. North America accounted for about 4% total of the trade from 1500 to 1900. This is very often poorly understood and overlooked. The French and British (to Caribbean colonies), Spanish, and Portuguese took the vast lion's share of the Atlantic trade. The Arabian and Indian trade was also not trivial. Sorry the legend is poor, but these are net outflows proportionally, 1500 to 1900: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/AF1C74EE-BED4-4182-B03B-AE4C6471CE69_png-2600192.JPG View Quote Think I got a better pic, b/c that's surn'thail an important point: |
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Quoted: Because we imported people from another continent on an industrial scale. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Like any other disease (and slavery was a disease) it had origins that preceded him. You could consider slavery our fatal flaw. Because we imported people from another continent on an industrial scale. Sold by their fellow Africans on an industrial scale. Nobody is blameless. |
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Quoted: I don't know what to think about him, but this is the most ironic sign combo at Harper's Ferry. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/60540/inCollage_20180804_112437165_jpg-2596500.JPG View Quote Attached File No, this is the most ironic at Harper’s Ferry |
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John Brown is the textbook definition of a man who did the wrong things for the right reasons.
That being said, I'll shed no tears over the deaths of those who sought to make Kansas a place where people could be held as chattel. |
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