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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Term limits are stupid because it just means that lobbyists, staffers, and the administrative state wind up with even more power than they do already. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Term limits are stupid AF, unconservative, and unconstitutional. Tall about a ridiculous demand. Any Speaker candidate would be right to reject it. A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency. Stick to reducing the Speaker's power. Those were the better and more realistic demands. Balanced budget means you only send a balanced budget over to the senate as take it or leave it (while making clear that the house rules prohibit voting on whatever crap the senate tries to send back that isn't balanced). Then the senate can take what they get or shut down the entire government. Term limits are not unconservative or stupid - it breaks the career politicians holding seats for 40 years. They should be put into a constitutional amendment just like term limits on the presidency were. McCarthy could easily satisfy this by writing the constitutional amendment & allowing it to be voted on. The real problem is in term limits in administrative offices. The heads change with the president but the rest of the machine keeps grinding away with the same parts |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:55:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So tits it is. Who has nice tits? I imagine boebert has pretty ones?? |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:56:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Term limits are stupid AF, unconservative, and unconstitutional. Tall about a ridiculous demand. Any Speaker candidate would be right to reject it. A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency. Stick to reducing the Speaker's power. Those were the better and more realistic demands. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
Term limits are stupid AF, unconservative, and unconstitutional. Tall about a ridiculous demand. Any Speaker candidate would be right to reject it. A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency. Stick to reducing the Speaker's power. Those were the better and more realistic demands. Term limits are unconstitutional how? The president has Term Limits. They are unconservative how? Eliminating professional politicians is as conservative as it gets |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:56:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yikes.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Term limits are stupid AF, unconservative, and unconstitutional. Tall about a ridiculous demand. Any Speaker candidate would be right to reject it. A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency. Stick to reducing the Speaker's power. Those were the better and more realistic demands. Yikes. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:56:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maxine Waters wants McCarthy as Speaker.
Uniparty |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 9:58:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They did all that back in october... Apparently not. Now you know why McCarthy is pissed. They picked speaker designate (McCarthy), majority leader (Scalise) and chief whip (Emmer). Probably explains why Scalise isn't chasing the speaker position. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:00:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Term limits are unconstitutional how? The president has Term Limits. They are unconservative how? Eliminating professional politicians is as conservative as it gets Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
Term limits are stupid AF, unconservative, and unconstitutional. Tall about a ridiculous demand. Any Speaker candidate would be right to reject it. A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency. Stick to reducing the Speaker's power. Those were the better and more realistic demands. Term limits are unconstitutional how? The president has Term Limits. They are unconservative how? Eliminating professional politicians is as conservative as it gets Presidential Term Limits came by the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution - passed by both houses & the ratified by the majority of states. To date, nothing similar has happened for US Representatives or Senators. Bigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:00:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the point. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are never going to get what we want. But its sure fun trying. That's the point. Sometimes we get to see a Boner and a Ryno get it shoved up their ass for once. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:00:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Term limits don't solve anything. California has them and looked at how fucked up that state is. Term limits remove the responsibility of the voter. The people ultimately hold the power and refuse to exercise it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Term limits are stupid AF, unconservative, and unconstitutional. Tall about a ridiculous demand. Any Speaker candidate would be right to reject it. A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency. Stick to reducing the Speaker's power. Those were the better and more realistic demands. Yikes.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:01:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Presidential Term Limits came by the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution - passed by both houses & the ratified by the majority of states. To date, nothing similar has happened for US Representatives or Senators. Bigger_Hammer That's because it's a state issue as to whom they choose to send to DC. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:11:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Term limits are unconstitutional how? The president has Term Limits. They are unconservative how? Eliminating professional politicians is as conservative as it gets Term limits empower the back room career politicians who really run the State. The candidate/office holder is just the front man,... the public interface. The office holder HAS TO CHANGE every few years, and is weakened by that fact. The smoke-filled back room never does. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:13:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:14:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my thought. Anyone who craves power this much doesn't deserve it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: at this point anyone but him anyone that he wants it this bad tells me everything I need to know about him@ NEVER KEVIN That's because FKMC is bought and paid for and now he must deliver or his gravy train from his masters dries up drier than Death Valley. Its not really craving. Power is just one of the benefits of the position. Its what happens if you fall from grace in their master's eyes that they are REALLY terrified of. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:14:46 PM EDT
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Hannity being a Dbag to Boebert right now…..
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:17:32 PM EDT
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Lauren Boebert looks like an idiot on Hannity right now...she won't answer/ can't answer a simple question; "Who will you support for speaker?"..she keep squawking, "We need to have that conversation."
Hannity is a total protectionist of the swamp and Trump..but she really looks bad with her lack of articulables. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:22:24 PM EDT
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Fuck Hannity. The Twitter files proved he is swamp scum.
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:22:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maxine Waters wants McCarthy as Speaker.
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:25:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like someone wants to do backroom deals before the next vote. Of course they do. I don’t think there is a single Republican candidate that would get 218 votes without some kind of deal making. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:25:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck Hannity. The Twitter files proved he is swamp scum. His own words and actions BEFORE the twitter BS. He tries to play it several ways at once. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:27:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hannity being a Dbag to Boebert right now .. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:35:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I look at them and at many of the folks in GD and feel assured in my opposition to universal suffrage, populism, and democracy. You're not alone. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:37:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maxine Waters wants McCarthy as Speaker.
Read the rest of that tweet thread....it didn't go as expected for Omar lol |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:39:33 PM EDT
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 Savage. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:40:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1) Term limits. One of the best things that we could implement for Congress pukes. I have heard twelve years total in Congress. Seems reasonable. The POTUS has a two term limit. 2) "A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency." That should be a "die on the hill" issue for the next budget. Balancing does not come with new taxes. There should be a surplus to start paying down the debt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Term limits are stupid AF, unconservative, and unconstitutional. Tall about a ridiculous demand. Any Speaker candidate would be right to reject it. A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency. Stick to reducing the Speaker's power. Those were the better and more realistic demands. 1) Term limits. One of the best things that we could implement for Congress pukes. I have heard twelve years total in Congress. Seems reasonable. The POTUS has a two term limit. 2) "A balanced budget is unrealistic without greater Republican control over Congress and the Presidency." That should be a "die on the hill" issue for the next budget. Balancing does not come with new taxes. There should be a surplus to start paying down the debt. When was the last time we actually passed a real budget nevermind a balanced one? 1996 We’ve been funding the government with resolutions and omnibus bills forever. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:41:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maxine Waters wants McCarthy as Speaker.
See that sweet California Cash rolling in! |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:42:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Term limits are unconstitutional how? The president has Term Limits. The US President was a term limit only because the Constitution was amended (22 Amendment). If you want to do the same for members of Congress, there needs to be another constitutional amendment. The House just voting on it doesn’t make it so. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:45:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Read the rest of that tweet thread....it didn't go as expected for Omar lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Maxine Waters wants McCarthy as Speaker.
Read the rest of that tweet thread....it didn't go as expected for Omar lol Looked good to me. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:45:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:46:24 PM EDT
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I really can’t articulate why but, term limits just sounds like one of those bits of legislation that wouldn’t solve anything and have a good chance of backfiring and making things worse.
My personal opinion is, if you don’t want them there forever since it’s not really supposed to be a forever job anyway, insist on the elimination of the congressional retirement plan. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:46:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's because it's a state issue as to whom they choose to send to DC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Presidential Term Limits came by the 22nd Amendment to the Constitution - passed by both houses & the ratified by the majority of states. To date, nothing similar has happened for US Representatives or Senators. Bigger_Hammer That's because it's a state issue as to whom they choose to send to DC. With Respect madmacs69 Curious if Constitutional Term Limits would be legal (if done as a Constitutional Amendment), because the Constitution does specify a minimum AGE & time they have to have resided in the state, for Representatives & Senators - instead of "letting states choose whom they send to DC". Article I, Section 3, Clause 3: No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen Just throwing the idea out there to see peoples thoughts. Best Regards, Bigger_Hammer @madmacs69 |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lauren Boebert looks like an idiot on Hannity right now...she won't answer/ can't answer a simple question; "Who will you support for speaker?"..she keep squawking, "We need to have that conversation." Hannity is a total protectionist of the swamp and Trump..but she really looks bad with her lack of articulables. Well she's not wrong... they're probably having multiple conversations behind closed doors before tomorrow. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:49:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my thought. Anyone who craves power this much doesn't deserve it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: at this point anyone but him anyone that he wants it this bad tells me everything I need to know about him@ NEVER KEVIN  General Martok become Chancellor Martok |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:50:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The US President was a term limit only because the Constitution was amended (22 Amendment). If you want to do the same for members of Congress, there needs to be another constitutional amendment. The House just voting on it doesn’t make it so. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Term limits are unconstitutional how? The president has Term Limits. The US President was a term limit only because the Constitution was amended (22 Amendment). If you want to do the same for members of Congress, there needs to be another constitutional amendment. The House just voting on it doesn’t make it so. The House voting on it is a step in the process. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:51:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With Respect madmacs69 Curious if Constitutional Term Limits would be legal (if done as a Constitutional Amendment), because the Constitution does specify a minimum AGE & time they have to have resided in the state, for Representatives & Senators - instead of "letting states choose whom they send to DC". Article I, Section 3, Clause 3: No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen Just throwing the idea out there to see peoples thoughts. Best Regards, Bigger_Hammer @madmacs69 And how did that get into the rules... ? https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S3-C3-3/ALDE_00013347/ |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:52:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hannity being a Dbag to Boebert right now….. That's why nobody watches Fox anymore... |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:55:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lauren Boebert looks like an idiot on Hannity right now...she won't answer/ can't answer a simple question; "Who will you support for speaker?"..she keep squawking, "We need to have that conversation." Hannity is a total protectionist of the swamp and Trump..but she really looks bad with her lack of articulables. GED for the win. Here is what is happening right now: 20 moderate democrats are getting together with a list of demands for future speaker McCarthy. Tomorrow morning they will present him their list of demands in exchange for their votes, all behind the scenes of course. He takes their deal, becomes speaker, but is now in bed with the democrats. Simultaneously he wins points for being “bi-partisan” and being able to “work across the aisle”. The 20 Republican holdouts get tossed to the curb, lose all influence in the house, and are replaced by McCarthy endorsed RINOs in 2 years. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:57:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GED for the win. Here is what is happening right now: 20 moderate democrats are getting together with a list of demands for future speaker McCarthy. Tomorrow morning they will present him their list of demands in exchange for their votes, all behind the scenes of course. He takes their deal, becomes speaker, but is now in bed with the democrats. Simultaneously he wins points for being “bi-partisan” and being able to “work across the aisle”. The 20 Republican holdouts get tossed to the curb, lose all influence in the house, and are replaced by McCarthy endorsed RINOs in 2 years. Well that's one idea... I wouldn't bet on it though. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:57:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really can't articulate why but, term limits just sounds like one of those bits of legislation that wouldn't solve anything and have a good chance of backfiring and making things worse. My personal opinion is, if you don't want them there forever since it's not really supposed to be a forever job anyway, insist on the elimination of the congressional retirement plan. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:59:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well that's one idea... I wouldn't bet on it though. Can you offer a suggestion why democrats wouldn’t do exactly that, and why McCarthy wouldn’t take their deal? |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 10:59:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Term limits are across a number of states and haven't solved anything at all. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I really can't articulate why but, term limits just sounds like one of those bits of legislation that wouldn't solve anything and have a good chance of backfiring and making things worse. My personal opinion is, if you don't want them there forever since it's not really supposed to be a forever job anyway, insist on the elimination of the congressional retirement plan. Congress also cannot impose them. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:00:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWTF is this hobo lookin ass on about. Hat website is all sorts of
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:03:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you offer a suggestion why democrats wouldn’t do exactly that, and why McCarthy wouldn’t take their deal? Because he's smart enough to realise 2024 would be a 3 horse race if he did and the establishment Republicans are afraid of MAGA Republicans. Trump may be a figurehead, but people are pissed with DC selling America out. It would be a huge win for dems but a huge loss for republicans. McCarthy is pissed because he was voted heir apparent and now he isn't. A better question for him to be asking himself is what has changed since that vote and today. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because he's smart enough to realise 2024 would be a 3 horse race if he did and the establishment Republicans are afraid of MAGA Republicans. Trump may be a figurehead, but people are pissed with DC selling America out. It would be a huge win for dems but a huge loss for republicans. Except Trump is on team McCarthy, right? I’m not even sure what side MAGA is on anymore. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:08:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:08:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except Trump is on team McCarthy, right? I’m not even sure what side MAGA is on anymore. Is he? Or does he currently see it being advantageous to be seen as not derailing the process? |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:10:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except Trump is on team McCarthy, right? I’m not even sure what side MAGA is on anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because he's smart enough to realise 2024 would be a 3 horse race if he did and the establishment Republicans are afraid of MAGA Republicans. Trump may be a figurehead, but people are pissed with DC selling America out. It would be a huge win for dems but a huge loss for republicans. Except Trump is on team McCarthy, right? I’m not even sure what side MAGA is on anymore. DJT figures he has plenty of enemies in DC already. He didn't need the presumptive SOTH on his ass, too. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:10:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is he? Or does he currently see it being advantageous to be seen as not derailing the process? I have no idea, honestly. Endorsing the status quo and party line would be a first, and kinda goes against his political brand. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:10:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yikes. |
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:11:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except Trump is on team McCarthy, right? I’m not even sure what side MAGA is on anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because he's smart enough to realise 2024 would be a 3 horse race if he did and the establishment Republicans are afraid of MAGA Republicans. Trump may be a figurehead, but people are pissed with DC selling America out. It would be a huge win for dems but a huge loss for republicans. Except Trump is on team McCarthy, right? I’m not even sure what side MAGA is on anymore. So's Pence. 
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Posted: 1/4/2023 11:13:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: GED for the win. Here is what is happening right now: 20 moderate democrats are getting together with a list of demands for future speaker McCarthy. Tomorrow morning they will present him their list of demands in exchange for their votes, all behind the scenes of course. He takes their deal, becomes speaker, but is now in bed with the democrats. Simultaneously he wins points for being "bi-partisan" and being able to "work across the aisle". The 20 Republican holdouts get tossed to the curb, lose all influence in the house, and are replaced by McCarthy endorsed RINOs in 2 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lauren Boebert looks like an idiot on Hannity right now...she won't answer/ can't answer a simple question; "Who will you support for speaker?"..she keep squawking, "We need to have that conversation." Hannity is a total protectionist of the swamp and Trump..but she really looks bad with her lack of articulables. GED for the win. Here is what is happening right now: 20 moderate democrats are getting together with a list of demands for future speaker McCarthy. Tomorrow morning they will present him their list of demands in exchange for their votes, all behind the scenes of course. He takes their deal, becomes speaker, but is now in bed with the democrats. Simultaneously he wins points for being "bi-partisan" and being able to "work across the aisle". The 20 Republican holdouts get tossed to the curb, lose all influence in the house, and are replaced by McCarthy endorsed RINOs in 2 years. |
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