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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:09:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who did Boebert just vote for? Someone from Oklahoma I think she said Kevin Hern |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:10:18 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has any politician lost 8 straight times for Soth |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:13:23 PM EDT
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McCarthy loses 8th vote...
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:14:25 PM EDT
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Boebert was on Bongino a few minutes ago. She states:
• KM is only talking to them through intermediaries. • All the concessions are mostly 'trust me' promises. In other words, they are turning the media against the conservatives. (Not hard). • No deal on the horizon. In fact, she hasn't seen anything concrete. • KM already trying to weasel around the CFG deal last night by using other PACs to diddle in Republican primaries. • A chunk of the 20 don't care about concessions anymore - KM is a deal killer regardless of what he offers. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:14:26 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: McCarthy loses 8th vote... 6 votes for other than KM. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: McCarthy loses 8th vote... Haha.. I love seeing a revolution in real time. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: McCarthy loses 8th vote... 
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:18:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe democrat of 2004 is somehow more conservative than the establishment "republican" of today. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:18:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Boebert was on Bongino a few minutes ago. She states: KM is only talking to them through intermediaries. All the concessions are mostly 'trust me' promises. In other words, they are turning the media against the conservatives. (Not hard). No deal on the horizon. In fact, she hasn't seen anything concrete. KM already trying to weasel around the CFG deal last night by using other PACs to diddle in Republican primaries. A chunk of the 20 don't care about concessions anymore - KM is a deal killer regardless of what he offers. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:18:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Haha.. I love seeing a revolution in real time. So you're saying it's "Treasonous Insurrection" ... if only they could convene a committee to investigate. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:19:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brian Mast is all in favor of banning AR-15s. Is Turbate his nickname? |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:19:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The democrat of 2004 is somehow more conservative than the establishment "republican" of today. Quote HistoryQuoted: The democrat of 2004 is somehow more conservative than the establishment "republican" of today. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:21:22 PM EDT
[#13]
It is like watching a train wreck at this point.
You just cant look away from the carnage. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:23:32 PM EDT
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He really needs to get the fuck out the Speaker's Office.
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:24:52 PM EDT
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My fear in all this mess is the Democrats. They see the divide and disarray within the Republican party and may pounce to take advantage of it.
It would not be beyond the Dems to make a side deal with McCarthy and provide him enough votes to put him over the top. Given how desperate he is to get it, he could easily give in and give the Dems assurances on such things as debt limit increases, immigration consessions and a host of other thing in order to get the needed Dem votes. . There's the added benefit of McCarthy 'sticking it' to his party by not supporting him. He's a slimy shitbag and I can see him doing this. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:25:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you're saying it's "Treasonous Insurrection" ... if only they could convene a committee to investigate. But it is in a cage match format 
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:25:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Boebert was on Bongino a few minutes ago. She states: KM already trying to weasel around the CFG deal last night by using other PACs to diddle in Republican primaries. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:25:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Boebert was on Bongino a few minutes ago. She states: • KM is only talking to them through intermediaries. • All the concessions are mostly 'trust me' promises. In other words, they are turning the media against the conservatives. (Not hard). • No deal on the horizon. In fact, she hasn't seen anything concrete. • KM already trying to weasel around the CFG deal last night by using other PACs to diddle in Republican primaries. • A chunk of the 20 don't care about concessions anymore - KM is a deal killer regardless of what he offers. I believe it. You can see, by the votes being cast, that the "behind-the-scenes" show has completely crashed and burned. They just don't care anymore, it is now 100% never Kev... |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:26:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is like watching a train wreck at this point. You just cant look away from the carnage. Why would we want to? Neither the Dems nor the RINOs are getting what they want. This isn't cause for embarrassment, it's something to be glad about. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:26:36 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He really needs to get the fuck out the Speaker's Office. Yep. That was hillary level arrogance |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:27:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you explain this one in more detail? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Boebert was on Bongino a few minutes ago. She states: KM already trying to weasel around the CFG deal last night by using other PACs to diddle in Republican primaries. CFG= club for growth https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/congressional-leadership-fund-club-for-growth-to-support-mccarthys-bid/ |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:28:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you explain this one in more detail? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Boebert was on Bongino a few minutes ago. She states: KM already trying to weasel around the CFG deal last night by using other PACs to diddle in Republican primaries. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3799420-mccarthy-backed-pac-agrees-to-less-spending-open-rules-in-exchange-for-speakership-backing/ |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:31:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My fear in all this mess is the Democrats. They see the divide and disarray within the Republican party and may pounce to take advantage of it. It would not be beyond the Dems to make a side deal with McCarthy and provide him enough votes to put him over the top. Given how desperate he is to get it, he could easily give in and give the Dems assurances on such things as debt limit increases, immigration consessions and a host of other thing in order to get the needed Dem votes. . There's the added benefit of McCarthy 'sticking it' to his party by not supporting him. He's a slimy shitbag and I can see him doing this. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:32:29 PM EDT
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This is awesome. Seriously.
Who are the three others at this point? (Who placed the vote and for whom? |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:33:27 PM EDT
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I feel like we need a betting pool of some kind. Maybe a poll.
Number of votes until a speaker is chosen Number of days until a speaker is chosen Who wins the Speaker position If we did days or votes until it is resolved, I could maybe toss in a pmag or two for the winner(s). Maybe I'll just add a poll for now. 
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:34:11 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He really needs to get the fuck out the Speaker's Office. He should be arrested for trespass, just like the January 6th people were. And the conservatives should have their staffs clear the room & throw his shit in the dumpster. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:34:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He really needs to get the fuck out the Speaker's Office. That is gonna stick in his craw lol |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:34:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CFG= club for growth https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/congressional-leadership-fund-club-for-growth-to-support-mccarthys-bid/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Boebert was on Bongino a few minutes ago. She states: KM already trying to weasel around the CFG deal last night by using other PACs to diddle in Republican primaries. CFG= club for growth https://nypost.com/2023/01/05/congressional-leadership-fund-club-for-growth-to-support-mccarthys-bid/ |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:35:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My fear in all this mess is the Democrats. They see the divide and disarray within the Republican party and may pounce to take advantage of it. It would not be beyond the Dems to make a side deal with McCarthy and provide him enough votes to put him over the top. Given how desperate he is to get it, he could easily give in and give the Dems assurances on such things as debt limit increases, immigration consessions and a host of other thing in order to get the needed Dem votes. . There's the added benefit of McCarthy 'sticking it' to his party by not supporting him. He's a slimy shitbag and I can see him doing this. If that came to pass, you make the perfect argument for the end of KM and the GOP |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:35:59 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel like we need a betting pool of some kind. Maybe a poll. Number of votes until a speaker is chosen Number of days until a speaker is chosen Who wins the Speaker position If we did days or votes until it is resolved, I could maybe toss in a pmag or two for the winner(s). Maybe I'll just add a poll for now. 87 Attempts |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:36:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you explain this one in more detail? They want him to stop using this fund to block conservatives in the primary & the general. He agreed, now he already has a workaround. He's a shitbag, they need to hold out until he steps aside. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 87 Attempts Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I feel like we need a betting pool of some kind. Maybe a poll. Number of votes until a speaker is chosen Number of days until a speaker is chosen Who wins the Speaker position If we did days or votes until it is resolved, I could maybe toss in a pmag or two for the winner(s). Maybe I'll just add a poll for now. 87 Attempts I don't think there are enough congress critters who are arfcom members to try and make that happen. 
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He should be arrested for trespass, just like the January 6th people were. And the conservatives should have their staffs clear the room & throw his shit in the dumpster. We can be friends |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:41:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is awesome. Seriously. Who are the three others at this point? (Who placed the vote and for whom? boebert voted for kevin hern, gaetz voted for donald john trump, missed the third |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:41:28 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My fear in all this mess is the Democrats. They see the divide and disarray within the Republican party and may pounce to take advantage of it. It would not be beyond the Dems to make a side deal with McCarthy and provide him enough votes to put him over the top. Given how desperate he is to get it, he could easily give in and give the Dems assurances on such things as debt limit increases, immigration consessions and a host of other thing in order to get the needed Dem votes. . There's the added benefit of McCarthy 'sticking it' to his party by not supporting him. He's a slimy shitbag and I can see him doing this. IF KM did that then he's a dead man walking. Everyone will turn on him and his best bet would be to just turn Democrat and that might save his political career. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:41:39 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel like we need a betting pool of some kind. Maybe a poll. Number of votes until a speaker is chosen Number of days until a speaker is chosen Who wins the Speaker position If we did days or votes until it is resolved, I could maybe toss in a pmag or two for the winner(s). Maybe I'll just add a poll for now. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:42:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think there are enough congress critters who are arfcom members to try and make that happen. Only takes 5, 86 times to get to attempt 87 
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:42:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If that came to pass, you make the perfect argument for the end of KM and the GOP Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My fear in all this mess is the Democrats. They see the divide and disarray within the Republican party and may pounce to take advantage of it. It would not be beyond the Dems to make a side deal with McCarthy and provide him enough votes to put him over the top. Given how desperate he is to get it, he could easily give in and give the Dems assurances on such things as debt limit increases, immigration consessions and a host of other thing in order to get the needed Dem votes. . There's the added benefit of McCarthy 'sticking it' to his party by not supporting him. He's a slimy shitbag and I can see him doing this. If that came to pass, you make the perfect argument for the end of KM and the GOP |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:44:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:44:52 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I believe it. You can see, by the votes being cast, that the "behind-the-scenes" show has completely crashed and burned. They just don't care anymore, it is now 100% never Kev... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Boebert was on Bongino a few minutes ago. She states: KM is only talking to them through intermediaries. All the concessions are mostly 'trust me' promises. In other words, they are turning the media against the conservatives. (Not hard). No deal on the horizon. In fact, she hasn't seen anything concrete. KM already trying to weasel around the CFG deal last night by using other PACs to diddle in Republican primaries. A chunk of the 20 don't care about concessions anymore - KM is a deal killer regardless of what he offers. I believe it. You can see, by the votes being cast, that the "behind-the-scenes" show has completely crashed and burned. They just don't care anymore, it is now 100% never Kev... |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:45:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think there are enough congress critters who are arfcom members to try and make that happen. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:47:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
The notion that it's better to compromise with the left than to negotiate with the few sane members of your own party (freedom caucus) speaks volumes about the importance of what they're doing. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:47:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IF KM did that then he's a dead man walking. Everyone will turn on him and his best bet would be to just turn Democrat and that might save his political career. But he still wouldn't have the votes... 
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:47:57 PM EDT
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Political suicide. And, he'd take the GOP as a whole down with him. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:48:14 PM EDT
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"We aren't gaining any momentum with Donalds," Colorado Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert told The Washington Post of her switch to vote for Kevin Hern (Okla.) instead of Byron Donalds (Fla.). "We need a true consensus candidate that can unite the Republican Party. I believe that Kevin Hern is that man to do it. He's the chairman of the largest caucus in our Republican conference and he was unanimously elected. He's a businessman and a leader, a principled man. And that's important."
Republicans Lauren Boebert (Colo.) and Josh Brecheen (Okla.) cast ballots for Oklahoma Republican Kevin Hern, chairman of the Republican Study Committee. Hern who was not nominated for the speaker job appeared surprised by their votes and laughed along with others. He has supported caucus leader Kevin McCarthy (Calif.) in the voting. Republicans Michael Cloud (Tex.), Andrew S. Clyde (Ga.), Eli Crane (Ariz.), Bob Good (Va.) and Paul A. Gosar (Ariz.) voted for Florida Republican Byron Donalds on the eighth ballot. Donalds himself did not cast a vote when his name was called during the roll. Florida Republican Matt Gaetz voted for former president Donald Trump for a second time. Republicans Andy Harris (Md.), Anna Paulina Luna (Fla.), Mary E. Miller (Ill.), Ralph Norman (S.C.), Scott Perry (Pa.) and Andy Ogles (Tenn.) voted for Florida Republican Byron Donalds. All are part of the holdout bloc. In the eighth round of voting, Republicans Matthew M. Rosendale (Mont.), Chip Roy (Tex.) and Keith Self (Tex.) voted for Florida Republican Byron Donalds. Indiana Republican Victoria Spartz voted present something she's done since the fourth ballot. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:48:24 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. But the damage done would be incalculable if he makes a deal with the Devil. And I can see him doing exactly that as someone like him will do anything to attain more power He has more to lose than gain doing that. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:48:56 PM EDT
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What a little bitch. I hope he tries. |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:50:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Who is this RINO POS? |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:50:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The notion that it's better to compromise with the left than to negotiate with the few sane members of your own party (freedom caucus) speaks volumes about the importance of what they're doing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
The notion that it's better to compromise with the left than to negotiate with the few sane members of your own party (freedom caucus) speaks volumes about the importance of what they're doing. It should really wake some people the fuck up. Sadly I dont think many everyday people outside of arfcom are actually following whats happening |
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Posted: 1/5/2023 3:50:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. But the damage done would be incalculable if he makes a deal with the Devil. And I can see him doing exactly that as someone like him will do anything to attain more power Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: My fear in all this mess is the Democrats. They see the divide and disarray within the Republican party and may pounce to take advantage of it. It would not be beyond the Dems to make a side deal with McCarthy and provide him enough votes to put him over the top. Given how desperate he is to get it, he could easily give in and give the Dems assurances on such things as debt limit increases, immigration consessions and a host of other thing in order to get the needed Dem votes. . There's the added benefit of McCarthy 'sticking it' to his party by not supporting him. He's a slimy shitbag and I can see him doing this. If that came to pass, you make the perfect argument for the end of KM and the GOP And after he does, he'd undoubtedly use his newfound power to retaliate against his detractors. The more this drags on, the more it becomes clear that he's unfit for the position. |
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