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Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:12:36 AM EST
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It makes me uncomfortable how much I like this
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:31:51 AM EST
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You are omitting the .45LC, .44-40 from the discussion.
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I already have a 45 Colt

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.44-40 would be cool but I don't reload
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 9:33:53 AM EST
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I already have a 45 Colt

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.44-40 would be cool but I don't reload
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You are omitting the .45LC, .44-40 from the discussion.


I already have a 45 Colt

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.44-40 would be cool but I don't reload


A man of fine taste I see.

Link Posted: 6/29/2024 10:02:24 AM EST
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A man of fine taste I see.

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You are omitting the .45LC, .44-40 from the discussion.


I already have a 45 Colt

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.44-40 would be cool but I don't reload


A man of fine taste I see.

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A Model 1873 is required in any collection/assortment

As much as I love my 20in ARs I equally love my 1873....and that's saying something
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 10:09:47 AM EST
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I just picked up one of the new Smith and Wesson 1854 lever action rifles  in 44 mag.  Have not shot it yet, but it looks very nice.
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Hope to hear back from you soon with a review and photos.
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 11:36:47 AM EST
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Iv got a beautiful Rossi stainless steel 44 mag, but can’t see the damn front sight for shit due to age, and the 92 receiver isn’t optic / red dot friendly at all. .

Guess I need to get myself a marlin 44 with optic friendly receiver .
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When I put together my 20 inch stainless Rossi in ..357 I had the same problem.

My solution was putting red dot on it with picatiny dovetail adapter for the rear sight.

Not crazy about the look but it works.

Found the plate on Skinners or Steves Gunz. I forget which one.
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 12:26:42 PM EST
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I have had number of .357 lenmver guns, Henry, Rossi and Winchester.

.357 and .44 are tons of fun out of a rifle and if load you can do some really cool loads with both of those calibers.

The Japanese manufactured (Miroku) Wichester 1892's are beautifully made guns.
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 4:26:53 PM EST
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A buddy’s wife has a Marlin in .357.  Fast shooting and low recoil and accurate to 100 yards.  Cheap to shoot as well.

I’d hate to be in a gunfight with her.
Link Posted: 6/29/2024 4:46:13 PM EST
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The first lever action rifle I bought was a Marlin (JM) 1894S in cal .44 mag.
I loved the rifle, it was very fun to shoot but I hated the microgroove barrel because I mainly shot cast bullets and it was a bitch to keep the rifling from getting leaded up.
So I finally sold it.

But I replaced it with a Marlin 1894 Cowboy Limited (Remlin) cal .44 mag.
I already had one of those rifles in cal .45 Colt - now I have a matched pair.

My first Marlin lever action 1894S .44 mag:
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My two 1894 Cowboy Limited rifles, the top one is .45 Colt and the bottom one is the .44 mag:
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Link Posted: 7/1/2024 3:12:57 PM EST
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look at what you bastards made me do, are you happy now or do I have to get one in 44 as well?

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Link Posted: 7/1/2024 3:16:37 PM EST
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look at what you bastards made me do, are you happen now or do I have to get one in 44 as well?

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Sorry but yes! Fine looking rifle, congrats!

I went with .22lr and .44 fwiw.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 3:22:14 PM EST
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What this world needs is a good 92 clone with a pistol-grip stock.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 4:47:03 PM EST
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look at what you bastards made me do, are you happy now or do I have to get one in 44 as well?

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Nice
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 6:02:50 PM EST
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What this world needs is a good 92 clone with a pistol-grip stock.
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Plus made in America.  Oh, and inexpensive too.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 6:04:49 PM EST
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look at what you bastards made me do, are you happy now or do I have to get one in 44 as well?

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"Get both" goes without saying on this board.  And remember,  we're waiting...




Link Posted: 7/1/2024 6:10:10 PM EST
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I have Winchester 1892 takedowns. One in each caliber.

Fun little guns.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 7:02:56 PM EST
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I wish Ruger would make an American Ranch in .357 and/or .44.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 7:24:49 PM EST
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I wish Ruger would make an American Ranch in .357 and/or .44.
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Ranches in .350 and .450 give you a higher case capacity if heavy subsonic suppressed is the goal. Ammo prices probably aren't that different .357vs.350 and .44vs.450 especially since Winchester really tried to push .350.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 8:18:19 PM EST
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Ranches in .350 and .450 give you a higher case capacity if heavy subsonic suppressed is the goal. Ammo prices probably aren't that different .357vs.350 and .44vs.450 especially since Winchester really tried to push .350.
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There was a guy in the old 77/357 thread loading something like 342gr HCGC going 950 or so. If you’re shooting subs the extra case capacity might be pretty worthless.

Granted an American is early under half the price of a 77/357.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 8:25:38 PM EST
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Plus made in America.  Oh, and inexpensive too.
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Somebody get Palmetto State on the line.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 8:33:12 PM EST
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Grand Power, if you are listening, I'll take a Stribog in .357 Mag, 8" barrel.  And a 16" carbine.  

Thank you very much.

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Um……
10mm master race checking in.

Link Posted: 7/1/2024 8:33:45 PM EST
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44, 44, 44, 44.
Link Posted: 7/1/2024 11:09:15 PM EST
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look at what you bastards made me do, are you happy now or do I have to get one in 44 as well?

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357, 44, 45.
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 2:51:38 AM EST
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There was a guy in the old 77/357 thread loading something like 342gr HCGC going 950 or so. If you’re shooting subs the extra case capacity might be pretty worthless.

Granted an American is early under half the price of a 77/357.
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Ranches in .350 and .450 give you a higher case capacity if heavy subsonic suppressed is the goal. Ammo prices probably aren't that different .357vs.350 and .44vs.450 especially since Winchester really tried to push .350.


There was a guy in the old 77/357 thread loading something like 342gr HCGC going 950 or so. If you’re shooting subs the extra case capacity might be pretty worthless.

Granted an American is early under half the price of a 77/357.


I remember reading numbers like that, were they in Special cases?
I think there's a factory 395 .450 Hornady subsonic load, there's also a guy on Paco's levergun forum who shoots 400's out of a .44 Redhawk. I've read that the Redhawk and Super Redhawk have longer cylinders so that might not work in other guns.

If I really wanted to shoot heavy, suppressed subsonic loads and not get into the .45-70 upcharge I think I'd go with a Henry X in .44 or .45. I should temper that with I don't have any suppressors and
44/45 is a better SD round (family in Cali, so who cares ) than .45-70.

From my time here, @Morgan321 is a suppressed levergun guy worth listening to. ??
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 4:43:47 AM EST
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There's a Ruger .44 Deerstalker, a Marlin 1894 in 44 mag and a Rossi Puma 92 in 357 kicking around here. Probably a couple more but I've had a kick ass flu and my heads a bit fuzzy.
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 3:39:45 PM EST
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Somebody get Palmetto State on the line.
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Have Jamin call me.
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 3:57:58 PM EST
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Came my way a few months ago, still haven't had a chance to take it out.  Rossi 44 Maag

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Link Posted: 7/2/2024 4:18:50 PM EST
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I already have a 45 Colt

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Oof.. $78/50 at the local hardware store for .44-40 cowboy loads.
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 4:25:22 PM EST
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Came my way a few months ago, still haven't had a chance to take it out.  Rossi 44 Maag

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Asked about them in the lever action sub forum but not much response.
I was fondling a few at different shops.
That stupid safety is ugly and I know they make delete and upgraded spring kits.
It's probably going to be my next firearm purchase.
I have about 100 rounds of 240 grain Hornady XTPs reloaded in Hornady brass with 296 that work well in the Henry.
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 7:19:45 PM EST
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Asked about them in the lever action sub forum but not much response.
I was fondling a few at different shops.
That stupid safety is ugly and I know they make delete and upgraded spring kits.
It's probably going to be my next firearm purchase.
I have about 100 rounds of 240 grain Hornady XTPs reloaded in Hornady brass with 296 that work well in the Henry.
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Yeah, everybody here suggested doing the delete and spring kits, telling me it changed the character of the rifle and I would much appreciate it. I want to put a few rounds through it first.
Link Posted: 7/2/2024 7:23:50 PM EST
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Ruger needs to do a run of 357 Deerfields ...they already have the mag .
Link Posted: 7/3/2024 6:55:00 PM EST
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Anyone make a nice leather usa made cuff for the henry that will hold a 10 rd reload?  

Henry had one on their site but I didn't care for the black elastic with the leather.
Link Posted: 7/3/2024 7:31:27 PM EST
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Anyone make a nice leather usa made cuff for the henry that will hold a 10 rd reload?  

Henry had one on their site but I didn't care for the black elastic with the leather.
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Have you looked on hellhound leather?
Link Posted: 7/20/2024 1:27:16 PM EST
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Look what you fuckers made me do.
I had never heard of these until this thread, and then once I found out it existed, I HAD to have one.

Link Posted: 7/20/2024 1:36:31 PM EST
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There's a Ruger .44 Deerstalker, a Marlin 1894 in 44 mag and a Rossi Puma 92 in 357 kicking around here. Probably a couple more but I've had a kick ass flu and my heads a bit fuzzy.
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Ruger made several variations of rifles in .44 mag. The Deerstalker which looks like a 10/22, the Deerfield that looks more like a mini-14, the 77/44 bolt gun, and a lever action 96/44. Both of the auto guns are really picky with ammo, and good luck finding extra parts and mags these days.
Link Posted: 7/24/2024 8:34:57 AM EST
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Ruger made several variations of rifles in .44 mag. The Deerstalker which looks like a 10/22, the Deerfield that looks more like a mini-14, the 77/44 bolt gun, and a lever action 96/44. Both of the auto guns are really picky with ammo, and good luck finding extra parts and mags these days.
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I have the deerfield (scaled up mini 14 action) in 44 mag and really like it.
I have not found it to be ammo picky. It is however magazine picky.
I had lots of jams when I first got it, the bolt was not always catching the rim to feed, then then it would catch the middle of the case instead and jam.
I only had 1 mag. I ended up stumbling across one setting on a table at a gun show for $5 and bought it.
My issues magically went away with that magazine. It turned to being 100% reliable.
Inspection found that the mag that came with it, had a significantly weaker spring. The gunshow mag was much stronger.
Seems the problem was the mag was not feeding the rounds fast enough for the bolt.

I also ended up buying a 77/44 and it came with a few mags. (I love that rifle as well)
I found one of the mags it came with also had a strong spring and it works great in the deerfield.
All the rest of the mags have weaker springs and cause jams, but naturally work great in the 77/44 bolt action.

I ordered a couple brand new factory ruger mags that say they are for the deerfield and 77/44, thinking the weak spring ones were from being left loaded, but they have the weaker springs and do not work with the deerfeild.
I do not know why these two random mags have much stronger springs, but they do and they work. So I at least have two working mags.
I did buy the aftermarket 10 round mag but have not had a chance to try it out yet.

The mags are not much different from 10/22 mags and I tried taking them apart and giving the spring/follower another turn to tension the spring more, but it did not work, the spring will bind/jam with another rotation. Unlike the 10/22 mags that have a small hex nut that lets you tension the springs a little at a time. The 77/44 and deerfield only let you do one full rotation at a time. So it is either too much, or not enough.

I do kinda hesitate to shoot it much for the above mentioned parts non availability. A little afraid something might break and I will not be able to get parts.
Link Posted: 7/26/2024 1:57:01 PM EST
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This thread had become very detrimental to my bank account.
Since seeing this thread, I have bought a IMI timberwolf in 357.
Then I have now added a remington 788 in 44 mag (should show up at my dealer monday) and also found a vulcan 44 mag pump (sending payment today).

Now to find the 44 mag timberwolf.....
Link Posted: 7/26/2024 2:20:15 PM EST
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I have Winchester 1892 takedowns. One in each caliber.

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Link Posted: 7/26/2024 6:17:44 PM EST
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While common now the .357 and .44 Mag in rifles seem to have a neat story behind them.

In the case of the .44, the first factory chambered rifle was the Ruger 44 Carbine starting in 1959. This later got Marlin making the 336 in .44 Mag. That action was a bit too large for the cartridge so in 1969 Marlin brought back the long dead 1894 but now chambered in .44. The popularity of the .44 Mag in a rifle caused Remington to offer the 788 in .44 Mag for a short period.

With the .357 it seems that it wasn't until 1978 when Marlin offered the 1894C in the cartridge that a factory rifle was available. Prior to this starting in the 1940s or 1950s quite a few Winchester 1892s chambered in .32-20 were converted to .357 by gunsmiths with varying degrees of success.

As much as the pistol caliber lever gun is loved by shooters for the past 40 years if you look prior to roughly 1960-1970 that wasn't the case at all. From roughly the 1930s until then the only popular lever guns were .30-30, .32Spl, .35 Rem, and .300 Sav.
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My 2nd Ruger .44 Mag carbine; won this at auction ears ago; the thing I don't think had ever been fired.  The bolt release was still pristine.





My first Ruger .44 Mag carbine I bought in the mid-70's.  It was stolen the Sat. before Christmas, 1986.  


Link Posted: 8/11/2024 7:45:22 AM EST
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This thread continues to cost me lots of money.
Since buying the 357 mag timberwolf, I have now added a remington 788 in 44 mag and now a universal vulcan pump!



Link Posted: 8/11/2024 7:53:18 AM EST
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I can shoot 357 Mag and 44 Mag though this bad boy!
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Doesn't it keyhole?  How fast can you reshoot?
Link Posted: 8/11/2024 8:35:08 AM EST
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So…..I can’t legally buy/transfer a handgun in Alabama.


But now that S&W makes a rifle in .44 I could, in theory, if they’d agree to it, get the Mary Carter Store in Cullman to fetch me ‘one of them Smith and Wesson Magnum .44s’.

Hmmm.




Link Posted: 8/11/2024 8:38:18 AM EST
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I love my JM 1894SS. So much that I will have to buy another when I get around to that big bore suppressor.
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Been wanting a single shot Rossi in .357, when they become available. The Rossi LWC.
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Agreed, they look like neat little guns
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Link Posted: 8/11/2024 11:51:05 AM EST
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I wonder what their street price will be. You can find Henry single shots but they’re $400 or so. Speaking of guns, I wonder if Ron Williams still makes the .357/.44/.50ae AR uppers.
Link Posted: 8/11/2024 1:19:22 PM EST
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I am a 41 mag addict. The perfect caliber. My favorite “drag thru the woods” gun is a stainless marlin 1894 in 41mag. I own another that is damn near unfired. I have a blue 357, but want a stainless one.
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Link Posted: 8/11/2024 5:28:11 PM EST
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Anyone make a nice leather usa made cuff for the henry that will hold a 10 rd reload?  

Henry had one on their site but I didn't care for the black elastic with the leather.
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Depends on how wedded you are to the 10-round thing but Badger Claw Outfitters makes a nice cuff.

(Edit because I should have cropped more carefully)
Link Posted: 8/11/2024 5:35:28 PM EST
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I love my Rossi Ranch Hand in 357 Mag, put a tax stamp on it & stock a few years back, it is an absolute giggle machine when shooing .38 Special out of it too. And accurate out to 75 yards. I may take it deer hunting this fall.

I also have a Henry in 41 Mag. Love it too. I also have a Win 94 Trapper Carbine in .44 Mag still in the box, that I bought when stationed at Ellsworth AFB SD back in 1994.

A few years back I also bought a stainless 77/44, I really need to get it to the range too.
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AR uppers that will shoot 357, 44, and 50AE would be fucking amazing.
Have them come with mag well adapters to use desert eagle magazines.

OR if a company would just make a semi auto carbine again.
Ruger should bring back the Deerfield and also chamber it in 357, AND come with mag well adapters to use desert eagle mags (kinda like their mag well adapters for the PC carbine)

My wet dream would be a semi auto carbine with interchangeable barrels (and bolts) to be able to swap between 357, 44, and 50AE. Basically a desert eagle carbine.
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