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Posted: 3/3/2023 5:19:30 PM EDT
@brasscrossedrifles

Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:22:18 PM EDT
[#1]
Tell me you're a fudd without telling me you're a fudd :)
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:23:30 PM EDT
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Exactly

MILs are life.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:25:25 PM EDT
[#3]
If you can't get er done with a duplex and zoom ranging Y'aint nary a rifleman!
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:27:19 PM EDT
[#4]
Only good things about MOA is for lieing about what size groups you shoot, and telling people the sizes of targets.

MIL is superior... especially when it comes to wind
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:27:21 PM EDT
[#5]
Numbers written on a post it note from a trajectory calculator is king.

Everything else is the devil's math.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:27:48 PM EDT
[#6]
MILS, MOA, who cares? Dialing is for homos

Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:28:36 PM EDT
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if there was ever a case of having to explain something like they're wearing a mask alone in their car, this is it.  MILS > MOA
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:29:49 PM EDT
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Ummm.... you know thats not a BDC reticle right?

Its MILs
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:30:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Mils are metric
Metric is gay and European
Therfore mils are gay and European
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:31:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:32:16 PM EDT
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That reticle has more grids than a flyswatter.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:33:31 PM EDT
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Radians vs degrees
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:35:07 PM EDT
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Negative, Ghostrider.

s = r * theta. Angular math.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:35:13 PM EDT
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I didnt know radians had a unit bias.

Cue "Dats raycis".

There is a simple mathmatical reason as to why a "mil-radian" is 3.6 inches.

If I was starting over with long range all my stuff would be mil/mil matched and I wpuld have nothing with MOA.

Nobody help him.   Let's hope he was joking.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:37:06 PM EDT
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Mils are better, however all my stuff is MOA because its what I know.  You just have to remember that it is easy to build in 5% error when doing math in your head.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:37:48 PM EDT
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I didnt know radians had a unit bias.

Cue "Dats raycis".

There is a simple mathmatical reason as to why a "mil-radian" is 3.6 inches.

Nobody help him.   Let's hope he was joking.
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I didnt know radians had a unit bias.

Cue "Dats raycis".

There is a simple mathmatical reason as to why a "mil-radian" is 3.6 inches.

Nobody help him.   Let's hope he was joking.

Radians are a tool of the communist to push the Marxist idea of number equity
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:37:52 PM EDT
[#17]
I'm with ya OP, MOA for me
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:38:30 PM EDT
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You also have a cool toolbox
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:39:06 PM EDT
[#19]
Me too dumb for division.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:39:50 PM EDT
[#20]
I remember the good old days of MOA dials and MIL dot reticles...

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Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:41:09 PM EDT
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I finally got the opportunity to look through a friend's scope that has this reticle.  Holy fuck that batman.  WAY to much going on.  Didn't help when we were going 700+ and aiming for a small(er) object.   It was lost between all the dots and lines.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:42:38 PM EDT
[#22]
I don't like having to work in radians and arc lengths so I run MOA.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:43:47 PM EDT
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Two kinds of nations on this Earth.

Those that use Metric, and those that have put a man on the moon.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:44:05 PM EDT
[#24]
units, schmunits
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:45:39 PM EDT
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Yeah i know right

I have a tool for that IT'S CALLED GUESSING
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:45:39 PM EDT
[#26]
MILS and Lancer mags for me.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:45:49 PM EDT
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Ummm.... you know thats not a BDC reticle right?

Its MILs
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Ummm.... you know thats not a BDC reticle right?

Its MILs

Ummm… you know this is a whiskers shit posting thread. What is or isn’t is doesn’t matter.

Honestly a MOA tremor would work just as well. Ranging with the reticle is some 1970’s boomer shit. With a laser range finder and a ballistic calculator the units are pretty irrelevant.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:46:15 PM EDT
[#28]
3 blobs right eh some sort of wind

FULL SEND
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:46:53 PM EDT
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Negative, Ghostrider.

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Theta?

That sounds like one of them European words.  Therefore, metric.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:47:31 PM EDT
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Ummm… you know this is a whiskers shit posting thread. What is or isn’t is doesn’t matter.

Honestly a MOA tremor would work just as well. Ranging with the reticle is some 1970’s boomer shit. With a laser range finder and a ballistic calculator the units are pretty irrelevant.
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Sir please I am the most serious and technical poster here.

My scientific claims survive peer review constantly
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:48:32 PM EDT
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Two kinds of nations on this Earth.

Those that use Metric, and those that have put a man on the moon.
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Two kinds of nations on this Earth.

Those that use Metric, and those that have put a man on the moon.

Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:49:45 PM EDT
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3 blobs right eh some sort of wind

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When CW east

We need do some spearmintin
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:50:09 PM EDT
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You also have a cool toolbox
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I'm with ya OP, MOA for me

You also have a cool toolbox


Agreed, every man should have Klein screwdrivers & a Fluke...



...but that ain't a toolbox
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:50:32 PM EDT
[#34]
I just point and shoot
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:50:49 PM EDT
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Ummm… you know this is a whiskers shit posting thread. What is or isn’t is doesn’t matter.

Honestly a MOA tremor would work just as well. Ranging with the reticle is some 1970’s boomer shit. With a laser range finder and a ballistic calculator the units are pretty irrelevant.
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Irrelevent until wind is involved and youre on the clock...

Thats why MILs is better
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:51:02 PM EDT
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MOA scopes with 1/4-MOA clicks adjust 0.26175 inches per click at 100-yards.

MIL scopes with 1/10-MIL clicks adjust 0.36 inches per click at 100-yards.

So MOA scopes offer finer adjustment and thus, higher accuracy.  It's science  
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:51:07 PM EDT
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I finally got the opportunity to look through a friend's scope that has this reticle.  Holy fuck that batman.  WAY to much going on.  Didn't help when we were going 700+ and aiming for a small(er) object.   It was lost between all the dots and lines.
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MILS, MOA, who cares? Dialing is for homos

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I finally got the opportunity to look through a friend's scope that has this reticle.  Holy fuck that batman.  WAY to much going on.  Didn't help when we were going 700+ and aiming for a small(er) object.   It was lost between all the dots and lines.


Admittedly I’ve use the wrong hold before but for speed nothing beats it IMO. The lines are for drop and the dots are for wind. It’s pretty intuitive and easy once you figure out how the time of flight of whatever you are shooting correlates to the wind dots.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:51:32 PM EDT
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Can’t miss the target if you can’t see it through all the bullshit in your reticle.

Thinkingblackguy.jpg
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:52:21 PM EDT
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Irrelevent until wind is involved and youre on the clock...

Thats why MILs is better
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Ummm… you know this is a whiskers shit posting thread. What is or isn’t is doesn’t matter.

Honestly a MOA tremor would work just as well. Ranging with the reticle is some 1970’s boomer shit. With a laser range finder and a ballistic calculator the units are pretty irrelevant.

Irrelevent until wind is involved and youre on the clock...

Thats why MILs is better


You live in ID. Can you honestly say you’ve ever been shooting and the wind wasn’t involved?
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:52:25 PM EDT
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When CW east

We need do some spearmintin
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When CW east

We need do some spearmintin

October.

Keystone in June though, that goes to 800
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:52:38 PM EDT
[#41]
ACSS no math drool tard reporting for duty cAt sIR!


Send it right meow!
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:53:19 PM EDT
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Irrelevent until wind is involved and youre on the clock...

Thats why MILs is better
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Ummm… you know this is a whiskers shit posting thread. What is or isn’t is doesn’t matter.

Honestly a MOA tremor would work just as well. Ranging with the reticle is some 1970’s boomer shit. With a laser range finder and a ballistic calculator the units are pretty irrelevant.

Irrelevent until wind is involved and youre on the clock...

Thats why MILs is better

I'm always on the clock which is why I tacticalize with tactical MOA tactically
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:53:24 PM EDT
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I have them both.  I prefer the MOA.  But, I'm just a boomer.  

kwg
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:53:29 PM EDT
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Can’t miss the target if you can’t see it through all the bullshit in your reticle.

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Can’t miss the target if you can’t see it through all the bullshit in your reticle.

Thinkingblackguy.jpg


That just means you need a better quality scope.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:53:32 PM EDT
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MOA scopes with 1/4-MOA clicks adjust 0.26175 inches per click at 100-yards.

MIL scopes with 1/10-MIL clicks adjust 0.36 inches per click at 100-yards.

So MOA scopes offer finer adjustment and thus, higher accuracy.  It's science  
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Sir please I am the most serious and technical poster here.

My scientific claims survive peer review constantly
MOA scopes with 1/4-MOA clicks adjust 0.26175 inches per click at 100-yards.

MIL scopes with 1/10-MIL clicks adjust 0.36 inches per click at 100-yards.

So MOA scopes offer finer adjustment and thus, higher accuracy.  It's science  

Science
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:54:14 PM EDT
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Based boomer
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:54:17 PM EDT
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I don’t need a fancy reticle to kill a deer.

Duplex reticles represent the pinnacle of scope technology.

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You live in ID. Can you honestly say you’ve ever been shooting and the wind wasn’t involved?
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Yes, the wind isnt always blowing here...

And when it is, I can quickly estimate my wind holds :)
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:55:28 PM EDT
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I remember the good old days of MOA dials and MIL dot reticles...

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The way god intended it. Bonus points for those fucked up football shaped mill dots you’d get in some old Leupold and Premier scopes.
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October.

Keystone in June though, that goes to 800
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That big far.
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