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2/19/2014 5:27:01 PM EDT
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blacks commit most of the violent crimes in this country.

Blacks are usually the victims of of that crime.

the fat she wolf protected her pups. good!
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They win in murder and robbery, disproportionately high considering their smaller population in many others- but mostly not true.  Whiteys win for rapin, fraud, arson and rapin.
2/19/2014 5:29:24 PM EDT
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and give her 200 rounds of JHP. That should be a lifetime week worth of ammo in Detroit
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Wish I was close by, would volunteer to clean it and do some maintenance on it for her.
and give her 200 rounds of JHP. That should be a lifetime week worth of ammo in Detroit


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2/19/2014 5:35:15 PM EDT
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American made, American owned, unparalleled customer support, goes bang when you pull the trigger, and it's cheap. I like Hi Point.
2/19/2014 5:49:51 PM EDT
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Refurb her rifle and get her lessons... the gun works, her technique does not.  Fix the broken part.
2/19/2014 6:01:05 PM EDT
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But....but....wait this doesn't fit the current narrative.
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Yeah, black woman defending her children.

This one really was "for the children"!

I can only imagine McCrappy (Chicago's police chief) in this situation. The Detroit police chief commended this woman and said she did nothing illegal. McCrappy would likely prefer to choke than say that!
2/19/2014 6:06:52 PM EDT
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I love the unbiased reporting:

"punks"
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I loved that, too! Here in Chicago, sometimes they can't even bring themselves to give a suspect's race. How the hell are you supposed to be on the lookout for a thug if you don't have a complete description?
2/19/2014 6:07:35 PM EDT
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I've honestly thought about getting a Hipoint carbine to keep in my truck.
2/19/2014 6:26:21 PM EDT
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I've honestly thought about getting a Hipoint carbine to keep in my truck.
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Son in Law has one. We took it and several other guns to the range. Guess which one had no issues at all ?

The high point carbine.

2/19/2014 6:27:33 PM EDT
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They win in murder and robbery, disproportionately high considering their smaller population in many others- but mostly not true.  Whiteys win for rapin, fraud, arson and rapin.
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blacks commit most of the violent crimes in this country.

Blacks are usually the victims of of that crime.

the fat she wolf protected her pups. good!


They win in murder and robbery, disproportionately high considering their smaller population in many others- but mostly not true.  Whiteys win for rapin, fraud, arson and rapin.


You said rapin twice
2/19/2014 6:50:17 PM EDT
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Good looking out for your niece.

As an aside, I'm wondering if they had the carbine because it was Detroit and there are restrictive pistol laws?  (I don't know--is Detroit like Shitcago and DC for pistol laws in the house?)
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I've always found those butt ugly, cheapass hi point carbines to be pretty reliable.


Look at the condition of that thing; and yet it went bang when needed.

While I have no experience of my own, I'm going to have to agree with your observation.


I gave one (9mm) to my Niece when she was having abusive BF issues years ago. It never gave me any issues, was accurate with the little SKS scope I put on it, and goodness knows how many rounds she has put through it in the years she has owned it with no issues.

She had me get her a couple more mags for it and when I called her to tell her to come and pick them up she showed-up with the money for the mags and $200.00 for the carbine. I took the money for the mags but refused the $200.00.



Good looking out for your niece.

As an aside, I'm wondering if they had the carbine because it was Detroit and there are restrictive pistol laws?  (I don't know--is Detroit like Shitcago and DC for pistol laws in the house?)


This may be partially true, but also consider that most people are not gun people.  They do not shoot often or practice much.  It is far easier to use a light small carbine than a pistol.
2/19/2014 6:51:18 PM EDT
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It's a solid gun I got rid of that garbage stock and it feels 100x better it's boring accurate can shoot the middle out at 25yrds all day. I think I gave 125 or so for mine.
2/19/2014 6:53:56 PM EDT
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You said rapin twice
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blacks commit most of the violent crimes in this country.

Blacks are usually the victims of of that crime.

the fat she wolf protected her pups. good!


They win in murder and robbery, disproportionately high considering their smaller population in many others- but mostly not true.  Whiteys win for rapin, fraud, arson and rapin.


You said rapin twice


He likes rapin
2/19/2014 7:00:40 PM EDT
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American made, American owned, unparalleled customer support, goes bang when you pull the trigger, and it's cheap. I like Hi Point.
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Too bad we can't get her a better rifle.


American made, American owned, unparalleled customer support, goes bang when you pull the trigger, and it's cheap. I like Hi Point.

I'll chip in $25CDN towards a back up rifle for her, even if it's another Hi Point.
The rifle did not fail her so she may as well have another to keep her family protected in case the one she used was confiscated.
2/19/2014 7:01:58 PM EDT
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This story is gaining a lot of traction.

ALOT
2/19/2014 7:08:40 PM EDT
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I wonder if the jackass prosecutors in the ban states would prosecute Mom for that semi-auto rifle?
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Second Amendment at work.  
Couple of center mass shots would send an even stronger message.  
Dumbass would not have tried re entry.
Glad she was able to defend her family.


I wonder if the jackass prosecutors in the ban states would prosecute Mom for that semi-auto rifle?


Hi Point Carbine IS considered an "assault weapon" in California.

So yeah, she would be facing charges.
And be disarmed for the criminals return visit.

Hi Point Carbines have the ergonomics and appeal of a framing hammer.
But are about as reliable as one.
Buddy of mine has one, it goes bang everytime.

2/19/2014 7:14:14 PM EDT
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Hi Point Carbine IS considered an "assault weapon" in California.

So yeah, she would be facing charges.
And be disarmed for the criminals return visit.
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Second Amendment at work.  
Couple of center mass shots would send an even stronger message.  
Dumbass would not have tried re entry.
Glad she was able to defend her family.


I wonder if the jackass prosecutors in the ban states would prosecute Mom for that semi-auto rifle?


Hi Point Carbine IS considered an "assault weapon" in California.

So yeah, she would be facing charges.
And be disarmed for the criminals return visit.

No its not.
2/19/2014 7:16:00 PM EDT
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No its not.
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Second Amendment at work.  
Couple of center mass shots would send an even stronger message.  
Dumbass would not have tried re entry.
Glad she was able to defend her family.


I wonder if the jackass prosecutors in the ban states would prosecute Mom for that semi-auto rifle?


Hi Point Carbine IS considered an "assault weapon" in California.

So yeah, she would be facing charges.
And be disarmed for the criminals return visit.

No its not.


Semi automatic rifle with detachable magazine and pistol grip = assault weapon.

They are sold here, but with a bullet button type magazine release.
2/19/2014 7:26:10 PM EDT
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Look at the condition of that thing; and yet it went bang when needed.

While I have no experience of my own, I'm going to have to agree with your observation.
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I've always found those butt ugly, cheapass hi point carbines to be pretty reliable.


Look at the condition of that thing; and yet it went bang when needed.

While I have no experience of my own, I'm going to have to agree with your observation.


When CA started it's safety testing of hand guns, all the cheapo pot metal pos's passed.  Some of the big$$ big names didn't make it.  Probably because they were made to too tight target tolerances and dropping overpowered their normally satisfactory safeties.  Shocked the antis when the cheap stuff didn't fail.

2/19/2014 7:51:57 PM EDT
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Yep that nasty, neglected HiPoint was 'enough gun' for her that night....
2/19/2014 7:53:51 PM EDT
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He likes rapin
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Best movie ever.
2/19/2014 7:54:40 PM EDT
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Best movie ever.
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He likes rapin


Best movie ever.


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2/19/2014 8:00:24 PM EDT
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He likes rapin


Best movie ever.


Kinky

We rape the shit out of them at the Number 6 Dance later on!
2/19/2014 9:52:51 PM EDT
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I've honestly thought about getting a Hipoint carbine to keep in my truck.
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I took one in on a trade about 8 years ago, I shot it when I got it and it only jammed on me with 1 of the 3 mags that came with it but I oiled it up and threw it in a corner of my gun room

I sold it 4 weeks ago for $150 and I gave the guy that I got it off of $75 in trade value





 
2/19/2014 10:09:27 PM EDT
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If she had a shotgun she could have just fired two blasts outside the house & they would have gone away.
2/20/2014 3:25:56 AM EDT
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story has made world news...
2/20/2014 3:30:46 AM EDT
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I have heard the same thing, despite being cheap, ugly as sin, and having the ergonomics of a brick they are actually dead solid reliable.
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Wish I was close by, would volunteer to clean it and do some maintenance on it for her.


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People hate on hipoints but the damn things go bang.  All those guys in her house, I think she needs range time more than a better rifle.

Also 2nd invasion attempt... something is up with that.  Obvious target is obvious.  They need to move.


I have heard the same thing, despite being cheap, ugly as sin, and having the ergonomics of a brick they are actually dead solid reliable.


They're the best cheap gun out there.
2/20/2014 3:58:33 AM EDT
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Our new Detroit police chief is so hardcore and HATES criminals (he was carjacked a few months ago), I wouldn't be surprised if he took the gun from her (while keeping a unit stationed at her house), had his team clean it up and make sure its functionality is perfect and returned it to her with a box of fresh ammo.


This is the same chief that said everyone should carry.
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The real question is did the cops take her gun or not?



Our new Detroit police chief is so hardcore and HATES criminals (he was carjacked a few months ago), I wouldn't be surprised if he took the gun from her (while keeping a unit stationed at her house), had his team clean it up and make sure its functionality is perfect and returned it to her with a box of fresh ammo.


This is the same chief that said everyone should carry.

2/20/2014 4:24:57 AM EDT
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"No one needs more than 7 bullets for self defense"

In NY she had a misdemeanor for the 10+ magazine, misdemeanor for unregistered assault weapon, and probably discharge within city limits.
2/20/2014 4:36:29 AM EDT
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So much for the thought that bad guys piss themselves and run at the first sign of resistance.
2/20/2014 4:40:40 AM EDT
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The butt ugly, cheap ass Hi Point pistols are too. Ergonomics of a cordless drill, but reliable.
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Mine is lucky to get through a magazine without a stoppage.

The carbines seem to be much better in terms of reliability.

This lady is the perfect case for a pistol caliber carbine. It's a great weapon for this sort of situation.
2/20/2014 4:43:19 AM EDT
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Wish I was close by, would volunteer to clean it and do some maintenance on it for her.


Even better if Arfcom pooled together to get her something better.

I like the way you guys think

I'd be in for an LPK, some 75gr TAP, and some PMags.

Is that legal in Detroit?
2/20/2014 4:47:12 AM EDT
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Mine is lucky to get through a magazine without a stoppage.



The carbines seem to be much better in terms of reliability.



This lady is the perfect case for a pistol caliber carbine. It's a great weapon for this sort of situation.
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The butt ugly, cheap ass Hi Point pistols are too. Ergonomics of a cordless drill, but reliable.




Mine is lucky to get through a magazine without a stoppage.



The carbines seem to be much better in terms of reliability.



This lady is the perfect case for a pistol caliber carbine. It's a great weapon for this sort of situation.


I've had one for about a decade now, and not issues whatsoever. It wouldn't be my first choice, but it would be better than nothing.



 
2/20/2014 4:47:28 AM EDT
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good for her, needs more dead robbers though
2/20/2014 5:11:51 AM EDT
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Same here. A co-worker has one and it is very accurate and reliable.
2/20/2014 5:25:34 AM EDT
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I think that's either Snowleopard or Dragongoddess, can't remember which.
2/20/2014 5:40:30 AM EDT
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Hi Point Carbines have the ergonomics and appeal of a framing hammer.
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A $40 stock and 30 minutes will fix that.  Doesn't do much for the trigger, but I can live with it for what it is.
2/20/2014 5:42:13 AM EDT
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I've never held one or shot one.

I'm thinking I am gonna buy one!!
2/20/2014 5:48:14 AM EDT
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I'll chip in $25CDN towards a back up rifle for her, even if it's another Hi Point.
The rifle did not fail her so she may as well have another to keep her family protected in case the one she used was confiscated.
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Too bad we can't get her a better rifle.


American made, American owned, unparalleled customer support, goes bang when you pull the trigger, and it's cheap. I like Hi Point.

I'll chip in $25CDN towards a back up rifle for her, even if it's another Hi Point.
The rifle did not fail her so she may as well have another to keep her family protected in case the one she used was confiscated.


as much as I hate hi points another hi point makes alot of sense. she won't get confused trying to handle 2 diffrent weapon systems.
2/20/2014 5:52:55 AM EDT
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Goes right in line with Detroit's police chief saying that legal gun owners can deter crime.

Someone buy this mother of the year a better gun though.
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Not in Michigan. Even the Democrats like guns here.
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in before she is charged with an illegal gun and firing warning shots.


Not in Michigan. Even the Democrats like guns here.


Horseshit - Carl Levin is a fervent anti-gun, "scary hi cap magazine and assault weapon" Nazi. Fuck him and his shithead brother.
2/20/2014 7:02:35 AM EDT
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A $40 stock and 30 minutes will fix that.  Doesn't do much for the trigger, but I can live with it for what it is.
http://www.atigunstocks.com/img/p/164-2814-thickbox.jpg
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Hi Point Carbines have the ergonomics and appeal of a framing hammer.
But are about as reliable as one.
Buddy of mine has one, it goes bang everytime.



A $40 stock and 30 minutes will fix that.  Doesn't do much for the trigger, but I can live with it for what it is.
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Reminds me of my daughter's CX4

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2/20/2014 7:09:58 AM EDT
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Reminds me of my daughter's CX4

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Buddy of mine has one, it goes bang everytime.



A $40 stock and 30 minutes will fix that.  Doesn't do much for the trigger, but I can live with it for what it is.
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Reminds me of my daughter's CX4

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I've read on a couple of different forums that Beretta was unamused enough to threaten or take legal action and that ATI had to pacify them with some $$$.  I have no idea if it's true or not, but it was clearly..........uh...........inspired by the CX4.

The Beretta was what made me start looking at 9mm carbines.  I wasn't sure if I wanted one, though, and for less than half the price I figured I'd get the Hi Point as a test subject.  I like it enough that I never got rid of it, but I don't get to shoot it enough, nor is it a "need to have" gun for me, so I never got the nicer Storm.
2/20/2014 7:13:49 AM EDT
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I have to say that this thread is perfectly titled in a way that captures all of the keywords you may want to use in a pre-post anti dupe search.
Kudos to the OP for having a hot topic thread, properly formatted, that has yet to be replicated

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2/20/2014 8:10:25 AM EDT
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I've read on a couple of different forums that Beretta was unamused enough to threaten or take legal action and that ATI had to pacify them with some $$$.  I have no idea if it's true or not, but it was clearly..........uh...........inspired by the CX4.

The Beretta was what made me start looking at 9mm carbines.  I wasn't sure if I wanted one, though, and for less than half the price I figured I'd get the Hi Point as a test subject.  I like it enough that I never got rid of it, but I don't get to shoot it enough, nor is it a "need to have" gun for me, so I never got the nicer Storm.
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Ahh, that explains the strong family resemblance then

Thank you for taking the time to post that explanation Flats. I know next to nothing about the HiPoint carbine, and only a bit more about their handguns.

My daughter loves her Storm, and at the moment oddly it is the only PCC in the house. The only thing saving me from bankruptcy is that my kiddo loves to shoot rimfire even more than 9mm...Thank God

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2/20/2014 8:22:46 AM EDT
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I know nothing about the handguns, but the carbine is a fun little piece.  It's crude and the trigger sucks, but it's dead nuts reliable, cheap, accurate, made in the US, and they'll stand behind it if you're the 10th owner and it's seen 20k rounds.  It's also stout and uses a simple blowback action, so you can shoot all the +p+ you can get your hands on.  There's a video somewhere of guys stuffing the barrel with mud trying to get it to kaboom, and they couldn't do it.

The biggest downsides are the original stock (it wasn't just ugly, it was flimsy) and the mag capacity.
2/20/2014 8:27:38 AM EDT
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Too bad the headline isn't "Mom kills three home invaders."
2/20/2014 9:50:19 AM EDT
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Just hear back from Striker, fundraising for her is a no go, she'll have to fend for herself.
2/20/2014 3:20:33 PM EDT
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2/20/2014 5:51:02 PM EDT
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I think that's either Snowleopard or Dragongoddess, can't remember which.
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I think that's either Snowleopard or Dragongoddess, can't remember which.


*shiver*
2/20/2014 5:57:38 PM EDT
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That's not just stupid, that's felony stupid.

I suspect he is not long for this world with judgment like that.
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It is interesting that the one criminal chose to stick around after being shot at.

Hell, he tried going back in.
 


That's not just stupid, that's felony stupid.

I suspect he is not long for this world with judgment like that.


But we have been told repeatedly all that needs to happen is to make a noise, and criminals will run away.......

What, a "bad" guy who behaves in a manner inconceivable to the average, normal, law abiding citizen?

Say it ain't so......

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