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Link Posted: 9/22/2012 1:52:09 PM EST
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If the Sons of Liberty at Boston Harbor were heros, the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere Hence which Captain Parker paraded his men at Lexington Green involved Patriots, and Menachem Begin's Irgun at the King David hotel were righteous, then Nelson Mandela and the ANC representing a repressed majority fighting colonialism must be described in like terms.


Too bad the "oppressed" majority Mandela represented itself colonized that region hundreds of years before from the indigenous tribes who ORIGINALLY inhabited the region.



Mandela is isiXhosa.  His features are clearly Khoisan, or bushman, rather than the distinctly congoid appearance of Zulus-derived tribes.  (in layman's terms, he looks like the dude from The Gods Must be Crazy, or if Obama had a Grandfather, he would look just like Mandela)

They were actually in the eastern cape before the 1600's when the settlers showed up.

Zulus came down later and killed everyone they couldn't eat alive.


Thanks for the info;I'd always assumed Mandela was Zulu
So Mandela helped "free' the people that originally conquered his ancestors?


Actually, during the negotiations and run-up to the elections, there was a greater danger of a civil war between the Zulu nationalists (Inkatha Freedom Party) and the ANC, than there was between the ANC and the Afrikaaner nationalists.  The Zulus and the ANC were blowing each other up left and right. The Inkatha Freedom party was trying to secure more rights for the Zulus on their home territory on the Eastern Coast of ZA (Durban, Natal Province).

The ANC was founded by academics.  Blacks, whites, indians.  Tribal differences were not really something that the ANC was used to dealing with, as tribalism was kept out of the party mechanics for the most part until very recently.  Now that Mandela, and his successor Thabo Mbeki is out, tribal-oriented non-academics are in control, and things are getting squrrely very fast.

Basically the power went from dealing with a bunch of grumpy college professors to dealing with a bunch of OWS punks with machineguns and armorued benzes.  The ANC was always a bunch of commie faggots, but now they are a bunch of commie, gangster faggots that are eyeing each other up on tribal grounds.
Link Posted: 9/22/2012 1:56:49 PM EST
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If the Sons of Liberty at Boston Harbor were heros, the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere Hence which Captain Parker paraded his men at Lexington Green involved Patriots, and Menachem Begin's Irgun at the King David hotel were righteous, then Nelson Mandela and the ANC representing a repressed majority fighting colonialism must be described in like terms.




Too bad the "oppressed" majority Mandela represented itself colonized that region hundreds of years before from the indigenous tribes who ORIGINALLY inhabited the region.







Mandela is isiXhosa.  His features are clearly Khoisan, or bushman, rather than the distinctly congoid appearance of Zulus-derived tribes.  (in layman's terms, he looks like the dude from The Gods Must be Crazy, or if Obama had a Grandfather, he would look just like Mandela)



They were actually in the eastern cape before the 1600's when the settlers showed up.



Zulus came down later and killed everyone they couldn't eat alive.




Thanks for the info;I'd always assumed Mandela was Zulu

So Mandela helped "free' the people that originally conquered his ancestors?


And then the Zulus took over the ANC.



 
Link Posted: 9/22/2012 1:58:15 PM EST
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Communist... and all that goes with it.


Redistributionist extraordinaire.
Link Posted: 9/22/2012 1:59:52 PM EST
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Commie terrorist.



Link Posted: 9/22/2012 2:03:42 PM EST
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Communist... and all that goes with it.


Redistributionist extraordinaire.


On paper, the NP redistributed far more to the black community than Mandela did.........

Wonder where all of the free hospitals and clinics out in the middle of oostpielsberg went?????????

Same goes for all the agricultural jobs..........???

Occasionally they also redistributed rubber buckshot, but what do I know....


The successive prime ministers really got down to redistribution with forced BEE job programs too.  Essentially "hire 10 useless uneducated people before you can hire one qualified person"  Now the fuckers are threatening to nationalize the mines and other stupid shit.
Link Posted: 9/22/2012 2:12:49 PM EST
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Communist... and all that goes with it.




Redistributionist extraordinaire.




On paper, the NP redistributed far more to the black community than Mandela did.........



Wonder where all of the free hospitals and clinics out in the middle of oostpielsberg went?????????



Same goes for all the agricultural jobs..........???



Occasionally they also redistributed rubber buckshot, but what do I know....





The successive prime ministers really got down to redistribution with forced BEE job programs too.  Essentially "hire 10 useless uneducated people before you can hire one qualified person"  Now the fuckers are threatening to nationalize the mines and other stupid shit.


The NP loved white welfare as it kept the Afrikaaners politically cohesive.



 
Link Posted: 9/22/2012 2:15:28 PM EST
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Communist... and all that goes with it.


Redistributionist extraordinaire.


On paper, the NP redistributed far more to the black community than Mandela did.........

Wonder where all of the free hospitals and clinics out in the middle of oostpielsberg went?????????

Same goes for all the agricultural jobs..........???

Occasionally they also redistributed rubber buckshot, but what do I know....


The successive prime ministers really got down to redistribution with forced BEE job programs too.  Essentially "hire 10 useless uneducated people before you can hire one qualified person"  Now the fuckers are threatening to nationalize the mines and other stupid shit.

The NP loved white welfare as it kept the Afrikaaners politically cohesive.
 


Yes. But they worked a job.   A lot of "make work" type jobs, but nobody got paid for sitting at home and doing nothing like the American welfare system is.

They got a lot of nice infrastructure and monuments out of it.  Now all the out of work blacks and white people too poor to leave can look back at the crumbling monuments and think of the good old days.

There was a labor shortage most of the time due to conscription into the SADF anyways.
Link Posted: 9/22/2012 2:35:12 PM EST
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If the Sons of Liberty at Boston Harbor were heros, the Midnight Ride of Paul Revere Hence which Captain Parker paraded his men at Lexington Green involved Patriots, and Menachem Begin's Irgun at the King David hotel were righteous, then Nelson Mandela and the ANC representing a repressed majority fighting colonialism must be described in like terms.


Too bad the "oppressed" majority Mandela represented itself colonized that region hundreds of years before from the indigenous tribes who ORIGINALLY inhabited the region.



Mandela is isiXhosa.  His features are clearly Khoisan, or bushman, rather than the distinctly congoid appearance of Zulus-derived tribes.  (in layman's terms, he looks like the dude from The Gods Must be Crazy, or if Obama had a Grandfather, he would look just like Mandela)

They were actually in the eastern cape before the 1600's when the settlers showed up.

Zulus came down later and killed everyone they couldn't eat alive.


Thanks for the info;I'd always assumed Mandela was Zulu
So Mandela helped "free' the people that originally conquered his ancestors?


Actually, during the negotiations and run-up to the elections, there was a greater danger of a civil war between the Zulu nationalists (Inkatha Freedom Party) and the ANC, than there was between the ANC and the Afrikaaner nationalists.  The Zulus and the ANC were blowing each other up left and right. The Inkatha Freedom party was trying to secure more rights for the Zulus on their home territory on the Eastern Coast of ZA (Durban, Natal Province).

The ANC was founded by academics.  Blacks, whites, indians.  Tribal differences were not really something that the ANC was used to dealing with, as tribalism was kept out of the party mechanics for the most part until very recently.  Now that Mandela, and his successor Thabo Mbeki is out, tribal-oriented non-academics are in control, and things are getting squrrely very fast.

Basically the power went from dealing with a bunch of grumpy college professors to dealing with a bunch of OWS punks with machineguns and armorued benzes.  The ANC was always a bunch of commie faggots, but now they are a bunch of commie, gangster faggots that are eyeing each other up on tribal grounds.


I vaguely remember some of that.Different groups going at each other with machetes and homemade bombs and guns.Forget the details though.Gotta hand it to you,you know your history.
Link Posted: 9/22/2012 2:44:03 PM EST
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Communist... and all that goes with it.


yep
yip

murdering, shit stiring, scumbag

 


Link Posted: 9/22/2012 4:38:18 PM EST
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Communist... and all that goes with it.


yep
yip

murdering, shit stiring, scumbag

 


Link Posted: 9/22/2012 4:52:48 PM EST
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I do believe Mandela has done one thing right. Honestly I think the deaths post white rule in South Africa would be insane had he not been involved. The 80's were a really heightened time of tension between white and black. In a weird way he's played a positive role although it's not perfect. That being said his wife is fucking scary and a major racist. His true beliefs are just beneath the surface but I think his time in jail sobered him some.




 
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