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Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:03:14 PM EST
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Wife made egg nog french toast for lunch today, it was ridiculous.

The Costco jugs of legit maple syrup are probably the best deal out there.
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:06:09 PM EST
[#2]
I go though Costco maple syrup like crazy, especially when I make maple walnut ice cream.
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:10:04 PM EST
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Straight to the ingredients when shopping.

Anything other than "pure maple syrup" goes right back on the shelf
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:10:13 PM EST
[#4]
I'm single, so I buy the real stuff.

I grew up in a family of 6 kids, so we got the fake stuff.
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:19:12 PM EST
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Someday we should invade Canada to seize their strategic maple forest.   Quebec is too beautiful for the French anyway.
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:22:07 PM EST
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I already stole one of their women. Quebec's best export.
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:24:50 PM EST
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This is the time where I prefer the "fake" stuff. Every time I bought "real" syrup it was super runny. Might as well pour sugary brown food colored water on the pancakes or waffles.

I like it to run like a little bit like molasses.
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+1 Love the taste of maple syrup, but it is too watery. I can go through half of a small bottle on 3 pancakes. At 8 bucks a bottle, I'll go with the fake stuff.

Log Cabin doesn't have HFCS in it.
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:30:09 PM EST
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dayum, y'all some rich muthef#ckers around here...

hekk yeah it's good,  but who can afford it?
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It's like $10/32oz at Sams and Costco. How poor are you?
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:30:29 PM EST
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When we were raising our children we were struggling to get by but Sunday was sausage and pancake breakfast day with real maple syrup.  
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:36:19 PM EST
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I have this waiting for when my syrup is done

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I have that. It's awesome.
Link Posted: 11/20/2022 10:38:20 PM EST
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I like good honey better as well but maple syrup is great and you have to have the real stuff, not artificially flavored colored karo syrup.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 9:01:21 AM EST
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Three consecutive weeks from the same trees.

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I too am curious about the color change.
I know jack shit about making it.
Is is something to do with drawing the sap over that time period?
Or is it simply how long it has been boiled/condensed down?
I assume there is a slight flavor change as well?
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 9:04:08 AM EST
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Also, after reading all the great replies from the members who make it themselves, I would love a chance to buy a small bottle from one of yall to try out some real home made stuff as opposed to store bought.
There might not be much difference, but I still would like to try it.
Shoot me a PM if you willing to sell and ship a bottle.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 9:04:47 AM EST
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I have this waiting for when my syrup is done

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Just bought a bottle of that myself. Looking forward to trying!
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 9:12:56 AM EST
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Mom was French Canuck, I don't think I've ever had the fake stuff.

I buy American though. 1 gallon from a Vermont family farm, dark or amber, $45  Comes as two half gallons.

I've learned to substitute Maple Syrup for simple syrup in cocktails. Tastes better and in bourbon drinks, really makes em special.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 9:55:08 AM EST
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Man this thread is awesome. Now will someone sell me some of their syrup please. Links to website?

I frequent Vermont as my friend owns a house there, never going back to store shit. Love trying the different brands and types.

Again links to your websites if possible
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 10:38:40 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/21/2022 12:55:03 PM EST
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I too am curious about the color change.
I know jack shit about making it.
Is is something to do with drawing the sap over that time period?
Or is it simply how long it has been boiled/condensed down?
I assume there is a slight flavor change as well?
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Three consecutive weeks from the same trees.

https://i.imgur.com/oOGZetL.jpg



I too am curious about the color change.
I know jack shit about making it.
Is is something to do with drawing the sap over that time period?
Or is it simply how long it has been boiled/condensed down?
I assume there is a slight flavor change as well?


There are a couple of reasons.

The temperatures while getting the early sap usually have a different breakdown in the sugar types, available microbes breaking them down, etc.
Typically with less time per pan to evaporate.
The later season sap a little more time per pan to evaporate, more residue from earlier batches, etc.
The dark stuff was typically stronger and less pleasing and meant for cooking/baking ingredients, and sold for less, but some individuals have a preference for it.
The whole grading system has been changed.

Canada, primarily Quebec, collects about 75% of the sap and produces about 75% of the syrup available.
Of the remaining 25% of global production,
Vermont knocks out about half,
And other US states combined the other half.

Now, those numbers are pretty suspect.
There is no premium for Quebec, Canadian, NY, Maine, etc. maple syrup.
Essentially, the only syrup with some inherent desirability or premium is Vermont maple syrup.
Although not legal, a lot of sap from neighboring states or Canada get to Vermont and produced into syrup.
And some actual syrup made in Canada, NY, NH, Maine ends up labeled as Vermont made.
It’s not supposed to, but it does.

When you grew up having friends and family in Quebec, New Brunswick, NS, Maine, Vermont, NH, and upstate NY -
And people you knew and went to school with working for what was at the time the largest syrup producer in the US-
You legit knew even some of those trustworthy little family places had sap from relative access borders, etc. Let alone the big producers.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 5:31:02 PM EST
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Canadian (probably Quebec) maple syrup.

the real deal and pure:
https://i.imgur.com/3L6Oln7.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/WixE4mK.jpg


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Any idea what the shelf life is on the unopened can?
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 5:39:44 PM EST
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Local goodness. I don't know much about maple syrup other than it's delicious and once you try it you're hooked.
I think this was 10 bucks or so and worth it.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 5:54:28 PM EST
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Local goodness. I don't know much about maple syrup other than it's delicious and once you try it you're hooked.
I think this was 10 bucks or so and worth it.
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This is the perfect example of a company that sells 100% pure, real maple syrup.
Some of the sap is from Vermont.  Some of the syrup is made in Vermont.
Some of the sap is not from Vermont and some of the syrup is not made in Vermont.

To the point they have been involved in some infamous events in Vermont vs Quebec maple syrup history.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 5:56:41 PM EST
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I make about 20 gallons of maple per year and a few gallons of walnut.  Mostly for gifts. Everyone that comes to my house gets some.  Package delivery people, gas man, contractors etc.  seems to spread goodwill.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 6:07:19 PM EST
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I make about 20 gallons of maple per year and a few gallons of walnut.  Mostly for gifts. Everyone that comes to my house gets some.  Package delivery people, gas man, contractors etc.  seems to spread goodwill.
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Oh, that's really nice. I hope they know what they've got.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 6:19:07 PM EST
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After years of making it here at home, I'm happy to pay the local price for a gallon or two. There is a tremendous amount of time and effort involved.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 6:26:48 PM EST
[#25]
Nothing beats a guzzle of ice cold sugar water when you're sweating your ass off collecting it.

Of course the real stuff is best but nothing wrong with a Waffle House waffle with some butter and fake syrup.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 6:46:39 PM EST
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Link Posted: 11/21/2022 7:25:47 PM EST
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Is there really a "Maple Grove Farm" location?
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Local goodness. I don't know much about maple syrup other than it's delicious and once you try it you're hooked.
I think this was 10 bucks or so and worth it.


Is there really a "Maple Grove Farm" location?


Yes. And they are like OG syrup shiners with a sketchy international, multistate sap runner history.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 8:02:53 PM EST
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I too am curious about the color change.
I know jack shit about making it.
Is is something to do with drawing the sap over that time period?
Or is it simply how long it has been boiled/condensed down?
I assume there is a slight flavor change as well?
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The sap changes over the duration of the run resulting in a change to the syrup once it is boiled down.  The darker the more "mapley" it is.  I prefer the darker.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 8:31:13 PM EST
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@sjoerdvan

vtsugarandspice.com

They make good stuff, sign up for emails or start checking weekly for free shipping.

My friend used to live a mile or two from there, he said it was the best maple syrup around and has won many contests.

Get a variety of amber, dark, and very dark. unless you know which one you prefer already.

I buy the pint or quart bottles, even though they are more money, due to space, and i do not go through it very fast.
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Small world, I live 2 miles from there
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 8:33:04 PM EST
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It’s a pretty localized product compared to many food stuffs.

Keep in mind that for the majority of its production, it was had taps and buckets collection.
Not the modernized planted stands of sugar maple with gravity lines, etc.
And it still takes tending a boiler averaging around 35 gallons of sap evaporated into one gallon of syrup.

So, keep in mind the team of horses, sled, buckets, taps, labor, firewood, tending, etc. historically that went into each gallon.


So, while it may be 40$ a gallon now, still far costlier than substitutes,
It was say 35$ a gallon in the 60s/70s/80s.

More like the equivalent of 200 dollars a gallon on today’s dollars.

If you were not in an area that produced it and tied into a production cost only supply, keeping it an expensive staple, it was a very costly item to keep in supply.

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You do know that it's in every Sam's club, bj's, and Costco in the country, right?
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 8:33:28 PM EST
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I have fully converted over to Maple Syrup.

There are good and not-as-good brands, but overall I love almost all GOOD maple syrup.

Grade A amber is probably the best replacement for fake syrup.
Grade A dark is the most flavorful.

It took me a little while to ween myself off the fake corn syrup garbage.
Link Posted: 11/21/2022 8:41:42 PM EST
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Isn't all purchased mapele syrup fake?  Basically they mix it with corn syrup or whatever then sell it as mapele syrup, the same way they do olive oil?
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NO.



Link Posted: 11/21/2022 11:30:54 PM EST
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You do know that it's in every Sam's club, bj's, and Costco in the country, right?
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It’s a pretty localized product compared to many food stuffs.

Keep in mind that for the majority of its production, it was had taps and buckets collection.
Not the modernized planted stands of sugar maple with gravity lines, etc.
And it still takes tending a boiler averaging around 35 gallons of sap evaporated into one gallon of syrup.

So, keep in mind the team of horses, sled, buckets, taps, labor, firewood, tending, etc. historically that went into each gallon.


So, while it may be 40$ a gallon now, still far costlier than substitutes,
It was say 35$ a gallon in the 60s/70s/80s.

More like the equivalent of 200 dollars a gallon on today’s dollars.

If you were not in an area that produced it and tied into a production cost only supply, keeping it an expensive staple, it was a very costly item to keep in supply.



You do know that it's in every Sam's club, bj's, and Costco in the country, right?


Of course.
It’s no longer 35 1975 dollars a gallon.
It’s far more popular than it would be at like 200 dollars a gallon in today’s dollars.

Link Posted: 11/22/2022 3:50:53 AM EST
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I have this waiting for when my syrup is done

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I just bought a bottle of that at Costco.

It was one of the products on display with samples.
Link Posted: 11/22/2022 5:46:39 AM EST
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Is there really a "Maple Grove Farm" location?
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Local goodness. I don't know much about maple syrup other than it's delicious and once you try it you're hooked.
I think this was 10 bucks or so and worth it.


Is there really a "Maple Grove Farm" location?


Yes,I drive by where it's made fairly often. They were somehow involved in buying at least one tractor trailer load of stolen syrup a couple years ago.
 I don't remember the circumstances but it was in the news.
Edit: No actual "working farm " that I know but it's possible.
Link Posted: 11/22/2022 5:56:49 AM EST
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I too am curious about the color change.
I know jack shit about making it.
Is is something to do with drawing the sap over that time period?
Or is it simply how long it has been boiled/condensed down?
I assume there is a slight flavor change as well?
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It progressively gets darker through the season when the sap starts running
You can sometimes see it in the sap too, not just the syrup.
Cooking it down too long can also impact the color (making it darker), but I don't think it has the same effect of flavor.

The last run of sap before the leaf buds open makes very dark and strong flavored syrup.
Link Posted: 11/22/2022 6:06:44 AM EST
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That is some good stuff right there.
Link Posted: 11/22/2022 9:56:23 AM EST
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THAT'S IT!

I would recommend to everyone Butternut Farms. Dark maple syrup is my favorite.

Side note, I buy it 5 gallons at a time for the meadery, I made two Pancake meads that had maple syrup in them, one of them won two gold medals and a silver medal (blueberry pancakes).
Link Posted: 11/22/2022 10:09:12 AM EST
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Any idea what the shelf life is on the unopened can?
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Canadian (probably Quebec) maple syrup.

the real deal and pure:
https://i.imgur.com/3L6Oln7.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/WixE4mK.jpg





Any idea what the shelf life is on the unopened can?



The best before is may 2024 so IIRC i got it in 2021.so 3 yr. shelf life but in a sealed can many years but i'm guessing the taste will be
affected after 3 yrs. from leaching of the liner inside the can.

Link Posted: 11/23/2022 9:15:40 AM EST
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Ha!
That is actually the same syrup I was eating when I made this thread!
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