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Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:09:12 PM EDT
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That is literally the more ignorant response that could possibly be posted.


Fitting for arfcom I guess.
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I wonder if they completed the survey on their $1,000+ IPhone wearing $200 shoes while drinking an $8 Starbucks coffe?



That is literally the more ignorant response that could possibly be posted.


Fitting for arfcom I guess.


but but but by giving up the 6 dollar avocado toast every sunday in just 400 years they could save the meager 120,000* down payment to own a house!

* assuming 0% inflation over 400 years
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:09:31 PM EDT
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Could very well be but most people are liberal in their youth and move to being more conservative as they gain wealth and figure out how the real world works.  Boomers may very well have removed the ability to bridge that gap due to their entitlement policies…we could have a whole host of AOC’s…but boomers will have facilitated that transition.
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AOC and her ilk are who the younger generations are voting for, it won't change until society actually falls off the crumbling cliff it's standing on.

Could very well be but most people are liberal in their youth and move to being more conservative as they gain wealth and figure out how the real world works.  Boomers may very well have removed the ability to bridge that gap due to their entitlement policies…we could have a whole host of AOC’s…but boomers will have facilitated that transition.


You see our F-up's and yet you do exactly the same or even do us one better.................

The truth is, you care as little about future generations as your claim that boomers do. That is not a legacy that either group should feel proud about.

Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:09:55 PM EDT
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And boomers will be working until they die because they didn’t plan for retirement.  Born in the late 80 and am super happy with life.  2 kids, a wife, a nice house on some land with my personal shooting range, a gun collection that rivals people much older then myself, both the wife and I have jobs we like that allows us to live a good life. It’s weird it’s like the people that do the worst are the ones that take part in these surveys.  The only thing they I feel is priced out of my range more comfort zone are new cars. No way I would sink $50k plus on a new vehicle when I could use that money to buy more land or rental property.
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Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:11:07 PM EDT
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This thread went hyper-boomer in record time.
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This is not a micro or individual concept…you can’t get past your own individual circumstances and see this for the macro problem that’s been created by society.  Sit on your high horse all you want…but it won’t change anything.  We have to find the root of the problem…and that root started with the boomers.
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No it didn't. It's just the group still mostly alive to point fingers at. Look up the ''silent'' generation age group and think about it and their age when things started to change.
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:11:30 PM EDT
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30 trillion dollars.  Who created that debt again?  Also, who is the vast majority of the population that elected those leaders…what generation is sitting in the White House and our legislature?  Oh oh oh I know…boomers.

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Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:11:37 PM EDT
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All by design. Socialism looks good to those priced out of the housing market with 100k of student loan debt. Lemme think on who created both those situations while also convincing them they'd make it right if they had more power over your neighbors lives.??
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There is iron in your words…yet the millennials will claim everything is different now…none of that (hard work) works.
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Of course you can't see it, you're too old.
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You see our F-up's and yet you do exactly the same or even do us one better.................

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Maybe but there is one generation that we can definitively say has been the most selfish and most entitled of any generation in American history.  They don’t get to lecture anyone with the choices they’ve made.
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Are there a bunch of millennials in our executive and legislative branches right now?  I think not.
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30 trillion dollars.  Who created that debt again?  Also, who is the vast majority of the population that elected those leaderswhat generation is sitting in the White House and our legislature?  Oh oh oh I knowboomers.

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Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:14:27 PM EDT
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At over 10% of the voting public it’s their own fault.
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They are the majority voters…
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All by design. Socialism looks good to those priced out of the housing market with 100k of student loan debt. Lemme think on who created both those situations while also convincing them they'd make it right if they had more power over your neighbors lives.??
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YOU decided to spend 100K on some useless college degree in lesbian orgasm studies.

I really want to see the percentages of past generations VS younger generations in college STEM courses VS ''lifestyle'' degrees. I think it would be interesting.
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:15:59 PM EDT
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To be fair they did but they didn't purchase those items. They were looted during the George Floyd riots.
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:16:08 PM EDT
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How am I wrong? Did millennials not vote for Obama twice? They voted for Hitlery Clinton. They voted for Joe Biden. They love CRT, they love BLM, they love the rainbow jihad.

If you’re a millennial, as I am, I don’t mean to offend you. But our generation is 70+% leftist.
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Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:17:11 PM EDT
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I personally paid 0 dollars for my phone.

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Do you think that the components and R&D effort between the 3G and 5G iPhone are exactly the same?

Ayyeee way to critical think.
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:18:02 PM EDT
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Some of the posters in this thread need to go over to the health insurance thread and read it. Then come back here and try again explaining how it’s millennials fault their poor.
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They are the majority voters…
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Wrong again
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:18:53 PM EDT
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Reading the comments from boomers, you would never suspect that they are the ones primarily benefitting from entitlement spending in the form of medicare, public and private pensions and social securtiy.  If the only thing you offer the younger generation is talk about bootstraps and toughen up buttercup, don't be suprised when the upcoming voting block(s) side with the people supporting wealth taxes and cutting off your pensions and entitlement programs.
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How old are you? What is your profession? Where do you live?
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:19:00 PM EDT
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It wasn't boomers that got all the freebie covid money............it was the later generations. Boomers were about the only ones that didn't take two weeks for every cough, tickle, and sniffle they had in my personal experience. All those trillions.............................

But I will say the boomers and early millennial's bought your ass with your own future just as easily as the earlier generations bought the boomers.
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Something like 80% of the covid money went to the top earners.  It was one big ass cooperate welfare program.  Between the state and business the coffers have been emptied.  
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No silly! Nothing has changed! Look:
An 18 year old boy today can totallllllly just marry a virgin woman at age 20 who never had a ho-phase and will love him,
and he doesn't have to have a gym membership an a good W2 just to be able to TALK to women, with 0% risk of being me-too'd.

He can simply NOT have a college education, go to the local mill, give that fiiiiiiiiiiiiiirm handshake to the guy in charge, and gain lifetime employment - have his wife be a stay at home wife, and pay for cars, a house, and both kids education with an average IQ and non-grad level education, on one income.

Nothing changed from the time that was common because, everyone back then was simply better! or something.

In reality, as more people are staying at home later in life in the western world, socialism will be more palatable.
As the naïve and arrogant refuse to even hear younger people out for their legitimate beefs (not the silly ones), they will leave the playing field to only the silly solutions from the hard left.
All because they're the only ones even saying there could be something off here.

After that a lot of damage will be done.

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Huh? Older generations abandoned the institutions that raised those kids. Maybe that wasn't the smartest choice. The expectation was that they'd churn out staunch conservatives?
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If I understand your poorly written sentence correctly, then I'd have to disagree.  We are living in a immediate gratification culture where a good portion of the population has no clue what self sacrifice means.  If you are poor, and dumb enough to drink $8 coffee, then you aren't likely to ever figure out the solution to your financial situation.  Successful people tend to succeed in any environment.  


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But muh $40 avocado toast from Uber Eats…

Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:20:20 PM EDT
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Ok, I'm a Millennial.  Explain this to me.  Housing prices seem to be going up every year almost as much if not more than my total yearly income after taxes.  How in the ever loving fuck am I supposed to get ahead in a world like this?  Even if I was to save every single cent not spent on expenses, I'd STILL be falling behind and never be able to afford a home unless was investing all that money in the stock market counting on the gains helping me accomplish the goal of owning a home in the future.  Basically it's impossible to get ahead by merely saving and working now unless you earn like 6 figures.  You NEED to have investing skill now or you still fall behind.  

Oh, have I mentioned everything has gotten like 20%+ more expensive while I haven't gotten a raise in like 2 years because my company is infinitely struggling due to parts shortages?  Oh, and the area I live (salt lake city) is going through the fastest growth in all the nation with californians, tech companies and others streaming in driving prices of everything through the roof.  Huge crowding, bad air, housing prices raising at a record rate.  It's getting to really suck living here.
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Xr here
I'm so fucking tired of hearing about millenials feals.
Only way this ends is to tell them get off their lazy ass and work for it.
It sure the fuck isn't a government problem.
Doesn't need 1.4t of additional debt.
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They didn’t abandon shit, they were driven out by selective hiring as the altruistic left infiltrated their administration. Unions, politicians and leftist press slandering them the whole time.
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YOU decided to spend 100K on some useless college degree in lesbian orgasm studies.

I really want to see the percentages of past generations VS younger generations in college STEM courses VS ''lifestyle'' degrees. I think it would be interesting.
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Who created the government backed student loan program that facilitates this nonsense?  

I know…boomers.

It’s like a group of people that enabled a bunch of worthless debt used legislation to facilitate a risk free investment…when they knew the dipshits who took the loan out could never pay it back.
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This is not a micro or individual concept…you can’t get past your own individual circumstances and see this for the macro problem that’s been created by society.  Sit on your high horse all you want…but it won’t change anything.  We have to find the root of the problem…and that root started with the boomers.

You want people to pull up their bootstraps and put their nose to the grind stones…they’re not going to…especially when boomers created a lifestyle for themselves based off entitlements that future will exploit themselves.
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You’re correct, I don’t know what you do for a living. But when you talk about “gaming the system” and “not working for bullshit wages”, folks will think you’re of the same mindset. Make up your mind.

This is not a micro or individual concept…you can’t get past your own individual circumstances and see this for the macro problem that’s been created by society.  Sit on your high horse all you want…but it won’t change anything.  We have to find the root of the problem…and that root started with the boomers.

You want people to pull up their bootstraps and put their nose to the grind stones…they’re not going to…especially when boomers created a lifestyle for themselves based off entitlements that future will exploit themselves.

The boomers won't admit there is a problem until austerity slaps them upside the head.
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:23:09 PM EDT
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Its a crime against our young people how expensive things are today. The biggest ones are cars and homes. AND our money is worth less today.

Still, you can make it if you WANT to. How many of those mill have 8yr auto loans, maxed CCs, $100k in student loans and spinning their wheels in nowhere jobs or usless degrees thinking it'll be easy street with that usless education?

I know guys right now in the puget sound area making $42hr providing for 2-3 kids, a stay at home mom, own a house and do OK. Of course thats 40hrs a week with OT. None of that part time shit. You have to work.

I dont know how many people Ive said "They're hiring! The pay, insurance and 401k is great!" just to hear: nah the commute would suck. Or I dont want to have to work OT. Or Id rather work from home. Fuckin boggles my mind.


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Something like 80% of the covid money went to the top earners.  It was one big ass cooperate welfare program.  Between the state and business the coffers have been emptied.  
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It wasn't boomers that got all the freebie covid money............it was the later generations. Boomers were about the only ones that didn't take two weeks for every cough, tickle, and sniffle they had in my personal experience. All those trillions.............................

But I will say the boomers and early millennial's bought your ass with your own future just as easily as the earlier generations bought the boomers.



Something like 80% of the covid money went to the top earners.  It was one big ass cooperate welfare program.  Between the state and business the coffers have been emptied.  


Which then went to who? You know how many customers I have that bitched about their ''kids'' not wanting to go back to work due to all the covid money they were getting?

And boomers are, by and large, NOT running much of the business world any more. Sure, some of the really big companies they do but that is because they can't let go, for most, they are retired and MILLENNIAL'S are mostly running them.

[FWIW, I'm a very late boomer and looking at retirement in the next couple years at the longest] Most of the boomers I know of that were higher up's are already retired. Even I would likely be retire if it wasn't for pesky divorces. [13K shares that were $3 at the time got sold for the first divorce, they are now about $55 a share]
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Do you think that the components and R&D effort between the 3G and 5G iPhone are exactly the same?

Ayyeee way to critical think.
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I personally paid 0 dollars for my phone.

I was comparing msrps of phones.  

Ayyeee way to read.


Do you think that the components and R&D effort between the 3G and 5G iPhone are exactly the same?

Ayyeee way to critical think.


What is technology cost curve, for 1000, Alec.


Technically, the iPhone 3G costed more to develop per unit. As it was being built on technology that was unproven at that point and in its infancy.

Also, the iPhone 3g was going to be in an emerging market place, as a new brand entry into that market place.


The iPhone 13 has the luxury of now, nearly 20 years of smart phone R&D behind it, as arguably the best single, selling brand, in a mature market place.

The original iPhone sold 6.1m units.

The iPhone 13 is expected to break 100m units sold.


So yeah, per unit, the 13 is far less expensive to develop.

What about critical thinking?
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I personally paid 0 dollars for my phone.

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Just in relation.

The iPhone 3G’s msrp was $199.


My current phone I’m posting on arfcom with is $999


How is that not a frightening sign of inflation?


There are plenty of smart phones that can be had for < $200.  You thinking you NEED an iPhone is the problem. Competitive consumerism at its finest.



I personally paid 0 dollars for my phone.

I was comparing msrps of phones.  

Ayyeee way to read.


A Toshiba 32" cost $500 10 years ago. A 32" Toshiba costs half that now.
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30 trillion dollars.  Who created that debt again?  Also, who is the vast majority of the population that elected those leaders…what generation is sitting in the White House and our legislature?  Oh oh oh I know…boomers.

Try again.

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4 months later....

https://fsapps.fiscal.treasury.gov/dts/files/22013100.pdf

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They are the majority voters
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Are there a bunch of millennials in our executive and legislative branches right now?  I think not.


They are the majority voters
you people keep doubling and tripling down on stupidity...

Did voters vote to increase the debt?

And don't give me some bullshit "BuT tHeY VOtEd IN tHe BoOmErZ!!"
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Something like 80% of the covid money went to the top earners.  It was one big ass cooperate welfare program.  Between the state and business the coffers have been emptied.  
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Had to support payroll and be able to prove it to get the loans…the smart businesses used it to pay their people while the pandemic shutdowns were in place and waylaid capital to keep going when the loan ran out.  Saved a lot of jobs and kept a lot of doors open.  Our company took the loans and the owners took no salaries during the crisis.
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I’m glad someone else gets it.  I’m not saying millennials are babes in the woods…but if we’re going to fix our society we to acknowledge what previous generations facilitated with their selfishness in order to change our behavior.
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Some of the posters in this thread need to go over to the health insurance thread and read it. Then come back here and try again explaining how it’s millennials fault their poor.
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It's going to be real fun when Medicare blows up later this decade.
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Sorry bud, you’re wrong.

ANYONE, who is willing to get off their lazy ass can make $100K annually pressure washing houses in my area.

But it’s too hard….and pressure washers are way more expensive now than when boomers were coming up.
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You aren't making 100k.

The truck will cost 1400 a month for 5 years, your employees will cost you 100,000 a year, probably closer to 140,000.

Now how much am I making?
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You’re correct, I don’t know what you do for a living. But when you talk about “gaming the system” and “not working for bullshit wages”, folks will think you’re of the same mindset. Make up your mind.

This is not a micro or individual concept…you can’t get past your own individual circumstances and see this for the macro problem that’s been created by society.  Sit on your high horse all you want…but it won’t change anything.  We have to find the root of the problem…and that root started with the boomers.

You want people to pull up their bootstraps and put their nose to the grind stones…they’re not going to…especially when boomers created a lifestyle for themselves based off entitlements that future will exploit themselves.

The boomers won't admit there is a problem until austerity slaps them upside the head.


Oh well.
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Who created the government backed student loan program that facilitates this nonsense?  

I know…boomers.

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YOU decided to spend 100K on some useless college degree in lesbian orgasm studies.

I really want to see the percentages of past generations VS younger generations in college STEM courses VS ''lifestyle'' degrees. I think it would be interesting.

Who created the government backed student loan program that facilitates this nonsense?  

I know…boomers.

It’s like a group of people that enabled a bunch of worthless debt used legislation to facilitate a risk free investment…when they knew the dipshits who took the loan out could never pay it back.


And they stuck a gun to your head and FORCED you to get a useless degree and massive college debt. We are some serious badasses.

The truth is, many of you should have NEVER gone to college in the first place.

I didn't [Dad was NOT a boomer BTW] and Dad was pretty disappointed to be quite honest. Later in life he admitted I had done far better financially then he expected. My Brother has done quite well with a degree and his own business but the other two kids with degree have done worse so a degree isn't worth anywhere as much as one thinks. It's ALL about your drive after you get it and what field it is in. [nowadays it's not as true because ''woke'' companies hire tards with tard degrees to look progressive and attractive to young and dumb employees and investors]
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A Toshiba 32" cost $500 10 years ago. A 32" Toshiba costs half that now.
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Just in relation.

The iPhone 3G’s msrp was $199.


My current phone I’m posting on arfcom with is $999


How is that not a frightening sign of inflation?


There are plenty of smart phones that can be had for < $200.  You thinking you NEED an iPhone is the problem. Competitive consumerism at its finest.



I personally paid 0 dollars for my phone.

I was comparing msrps of phones.  

Ayyeee way to read.


A Toshiba 32" cost $500 10 years ago. A 32" Toshiba costs half that now.



They still make the same exact model 10 years later?

Neat.
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How am I wrong? Did millennials not vote for Obama twice? They voted for Hitlery Clinton. They voted for Joe Biden. They love CRT, they love BLM, they love the rainbow jihad.

If you're a millennial, as I am, I don't mean to offend you. But our generation is 70+% leftist.

Yep.
Who do you think raised them and taught them that bullshit?

Who do you think is pushing that leftist bullshit in corporations, universities, and government right now?

You think its primarily other millennials?

No, 9 times out of 10 its some fucking boomer on the board of a corporation or public entity, and they're doing it for $$$ or political power. That's it. When I look around at who controls at the strings to this leftist bullshit its not some millennial.

Millennials needed proper upbringing, proper education not indoctrination, corporations that didn't see them for $$$, and government (made of boomers) that didn't use and manipulate them for political power and $$$.
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Dude I'm far from a boomer and the fact is if you fail in life it's all on you unless it was due to health/accident reasons. Financial literacy isn't hard nor is making a good wage.
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:32:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:33:15 PM EDT
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The boomers won't admit there is a problem until austerity slaps them upside the head.
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You’re correct, I don’t know what you do for a living. But when you talk about “gaming the system” and “not working for bullshit wages”, folks will think you’re of the same mindset. Make up your mind.

This is not a micro or individual concept…you can’t get past your own individual circumstances and see this for the macro problem that’s been created by society.  Sit on your high horse all you want…but it won’t change anything.  We have to find the root of the problem…and that root started with the boomers.

You want people to pull up their bootstraps and put their nose to the grind stones…they’re not going to…especially when boomers created a lifestyle for themselves based off entitlements that future will exploit themselves.

The boomers won't admit there is a problem until austerity slaps them upside the head.



A system isn't judged by the success at the top. Like a classroom, there are brilliant self motivated students, who will succeed no matter HOW dumb the teacher is or how bad the school is
165 IQ gunna 165 IQ.
At the top, you have people who will succeed in just about any system (and also people who are fortunate, yes).

Due to the nature of systems and facts of life, you will always have a bottom.
There ARE people who even in a perfect system, do not want to work or simply will not - and legitimate "sad story" charity cases. Those exist.

You are judged by how "the middle" does.
Does the middle of the pack do? How are AVERAGE people doing (not the chad-studs on arf with the 400lb bench 1RM, who fuck 10s, have 3 paid off luxury cars etc )
We ceased being a middle class majority in 2015. The think-tanks want to tell people that some of the people in the "Average" pile lucked into a higher income while their neighbor did not - does ANYONE think they're "Richer" today?" Anyone? Anyone buying that?
Yeah.

Now imagine how poorly "the working poor" are doing. These are the people who were "essentially" and didn't have a 6figure WFH job sitting in safety in their jammies as the checks kept coming in while they weren't working. THOSE people, who weren't born to parents who were professors or lawyers, who "don't know how money works", but do know how to take an advil and work with their hands?
THOSE people are suffering.
THOSE people elected Donald Trump.
And for 3.5 years, their lives improved.

And the second Dementia-man was installed, he had to undo it all ASAP.
The middle class having their dollars suddenly be worth something didn't work for them.
Not. One. bit.

but hey. If people want to fall into the self-flattery trap, fall into the water looking at their own reflection believing they're simply some ubermensch and that the world is no different at all and chance plays no role?
They will elect more AOCs due to that vacuum.
Link Posted: 2/5/2022 1:33:35 PM EDT
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Join the fucking club.  I wanted enough money to convince a never ending stream of beautiful 20 year old women to willingly visit me on my own island in the South Pacific.  Yet, here I am in Indiana.  
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