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Posted: 9/25/2020 6:38:05 AM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eir84U0XgAIkiLm?format=jpg&name=medium Pretty cool. |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 6:41:56 AM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eir84U0XgAIkiLm?format=jpg&name=medium Doing the work that Americans won't. |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 6:45:08 AM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eir84U0XgAIkiLm?format=jpg&name=medium Who would have predicted this timeline |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 7:01:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The highest point in Wisconsin should be a pile of dead commies. Do you have a Newsletter? 
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Posted: 9/25/2020 10:12:54 AM EDT
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eir84U0XgAIkiLm?format=jpg&name=medium Warms my heart. 
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Posted: 9/25/2020 10:41:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/25/2020 4:34:59 PM EDT
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I'm sure it's been posted but 140 pages, cmon
 Kyle Rittenhouse - The Truth in 11 Minutes |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 4:36:09 PM EDT
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Our man Kyle waiting for his extradition hearing to commence.
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Posted: 9/25/2020 4:59:13 PM EDT
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The question is: which state is more apt To fuck him over vs give a fair shake?
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Posted: 9/25/2020 5:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question is: which state is more apt To fuck him over vs give a fair shake? I assume at some point he will be extradited to WI and this is just a delaying tactic. Is it even possible to have a state refuse an extradition on a non death penalty case ? |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 6:02:23 PM EDT
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So is this just Kyle's legal team stalling as much as they can? Let the heat cool down and let the mob get distracted by the next big... oh look, a squirrel? |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 9:41:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I assume at some point he will be extradited to WI and this is just a delaying tactic. Is it even possible to have a state refuse an extradition on a non death penalty case ? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The question is: which state is more apt To fuck him over vs give a fair shake? I assume at some point he will be extradited to WI and this is just a delaying tactic. Is it even possible to have a state refuse an extradition on a non death penalty case ? I’m curious if the extradition hearing can force WI to lay out the merits of their case and the defense can refute them to show insufficient evidence for the charges. Effectively a mini trial to attempt to get the charges tossed. IANAL |
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Posted: 9/25/2020 9:44:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m curious if the extradition hearing can force WI to lay out the merits of their case and the defense can refute them to show insufficient evidence for the charges. Effectively a mini trial to attempt to get the charges tossed. IANAL Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The question is: which state is more apt To fuck him over vs give a fair shake? I assume at some point he will be extradited to WI and this is just a delaying tactic. Is it even possible to have a state refuse an extradition on a non death penalty case ? I’m curious if the extradition hearing can force WI to lay out the merits of their case and the defense can refute them to show insufficient evidence for the charges. Effectively a mini trial to attempt to get the charges tossed. IANAL That's what I'm hoping for. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 1:40:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2020 9:20:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryNice shiner.  |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 10:29:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice shiner. I do truly question how safe Kyle is in lock up, Lin Wood says it's the 'safest' place for him right now, but with that black eye I've got my doubts.
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Posted: 9/26/2020 10:34:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/26/2020 10:36:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m curious if the extradition hearing can force WI to lay out the merits of their case and the defense can refute them to show insufficient evidence for the charges. Effectively a mini trial to attempt to get the charges tossed. IANAL Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The question is: which state is more apt To fuck him over vs give a fair shake? I assume at some point he will be extradited to WI and this is just a delaying tactic. Is it even possible to have a state refuse an extradition on a non death penalty case ? I’m curious if the extradition hearing can force WI to lay out the merits of their case and the defense can refute them to show insufficient evidence for the charges. Effectively a mini trial to attempt to get the charges tossed. IANAL Noice. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 11:02:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I do truly question how safe Kyle is in lock up, Lin Wood says it's the 'safest' place for him right now, but with that black eye I've got my doubts.
Lin Wood isn’t building a lot of confidence in me right now. I hope that’s because he is much smarter than me and I don’t see the end game. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 1:59:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lin Wood isn’t building a lot of confidence in me right now. I hope that’s because he is much smarter than me and I don’t see the end game. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I do truly question how safe Kyle is in lock up, Lin Wood says it's the 'safest' place for him right now, but with that black eye I've got my doubts.
Lin Wood isn’t building a lot of confidence in me right now. I hope that’s because he is much smarter than me and I don’t see the end game. I find it a bit disconcerting that multiple lawyers here and elsewhere are rather concerned with how Rittenhouse is being handled by Wood and Pierce. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 2:05:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it a bit disconcerting that multiple lawyers here and elsewhere are rather concerned with how Rittenhouse is being handled by Wood and Pierce. Last I read, Pierce is gone. He stepped out due to ethical conflicts. I’ve written Wood and offered to work for free. He’d have to be damn desperate to accept that offer and he hasn’t yet, so I hold out hope. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 2:21:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lin Wood isn’t building a lot of confidence in me right now. I hope that’s because he is much smarter than me and I don’t see the end game. His constant posting on Twitter makes me wonder how he has time for working on Kyle's case. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 2:28:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His constant posting on Twitter makes me wonder how he has time for working on Kyle's case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lin Wood isn’t building a lot of confidence in me right now. I hope that’s because he is much smarter than me and I don’t see the end game. His constant posting on Twitter makes me wonder how he has time for working on Kyle's case. That's funny. I've thot the same thing, too...  |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 2:32:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His constant posting on Twitter makes me wonder how he has time for working on Kyle's case. He’s a civil lawyer. His interest is that he’ll get paid well for suing every single thing that called Kyle a white nationalist, etc. But he still needs Kyle to be no-billed or whatever the equivalent is there. I expect these are things they’ve discussed with Kyle and his family and they are making a conscious decision to make the criminal part harder in order to make the civil case easier. It worries me though; because from the outside you don’t know what’s going on, |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 2:32:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His constant posting on Twitter makes me wonder how he has time for working on Kyle's case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lin Wood isn’t building a lot of confidence in me right now. I hope that’s because he is much smarter than me and I don’t see the end game. His constant posting on Twitter makes me wonder how he has time for working on Kyle's case. He shouldn’t be working on the case at all except for maybe the PR side. He’s a defamation/libel attorney. The kid needs a criminal defense attorney, or a team of them, with a fuck ton of experience in murder cases and self defense claims. If the team he has now is doing anything other than coordinating and assembling the actual team they expect to show up and do the dirty work, they’re doing the kid a disservice. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 2:44:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He shouldn’t be working on the case at all except for maybe the PR side. He’s a defamation/libel attorney. The kid needs a criminal defense attorney, or a team of them, with a fuck ton of experience in murder cases and self defense claims. If the team he has now is doing anything other than coordinating and assembling the actual team they expect to show up and do the dirty work, they’re doing the kid a disservice. That's true, I forgot he's a civil attorney. I just find the daily, repeated Twitter posting unprofessional in general. It doesn't inspire confidence. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 3:04:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He shouldn’t be working on the case at all except for maybe the PR side. He’s a defamation/libel attorney. The kid needs a criminal defense attorney, or a team of them, with a fuck ton of experience in murder cases and self defense claims. If the team he has now is doing anything other than coordinating and assembling the actual team they expect to show up and do the dirty work, they’re doing the kid a disservice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lin Wood isn’t building a lot of confidence in me right now. I hope that’s because he is much smarter than me and I don’t see the end game. His constant posting on Twitter makes me wonder how he has time for working on Kyle's case. He shouldn’t be working on the case at all except for maybe the PR side. He’s a defamation/libel attorney. The kid needs a criminal defense attorney, or a team of them, with a fuck ton of experience in murder cases and self defense claims. If the team he has now is doing anything other than coordinating and assembling the actual team they expect to show up and do the dirty work, they’re doing the kid a disservice. Kyle needs money and Wood will get him money. He needs Wood. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 4:01:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kyle needs money and Wood will get him money. He needs Wood. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Lin Wood isn’t building a lot of confidence in me right now. I hope that’s because he is much smarter than me and I don’t see the end game. His constant posting on Twitter makes me wonder how he has time for working on Kyle's case. He shouldn’t be working on the case at all except for maybe the PR side. He’s a defamation/libel attorney. The kid needs a criminal defense attorney, or a team of them, with a fuck ton of experience in murder cases and self defense claims. If the team he has now is doing anything other than coordinating and assembling the actual team they expect to show up and do the dirty work, they’re doing the kid a disservice. Kyle needs money and Wood will get him money. He needs Wood. I agree. I do find it interesting he posts so much on twitter. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 4:07:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's true, I forgot he's a civil attorney. I just find the daily, repeated Twitter posting unprofessional in general. It doesn't inspire confidence. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He shouldn’t be working on the case at all except for maybe the PR side. He’s a defamation/libel attorney. The kid needs a criminal defense attorney, or a team of them, with a fuck ton of experience in murder cases and self defense claims. If the team he has now is doing anything other than coordinating and assembling the actual team they expect to show up and do the dirty work, they’re doing the kid a disservice. That's true, I forgot he's a civil attorney. I just find the daily, repeated Twitter posting unprofessional in general. It doesn't inspire confidence. How much did he get the smiling kid the media slandered? A shit ton. I’d say he’s doing just fine. Past performance should inspire confidence. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 4:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much did he get the smiling kid the media slandered? A shit ton. I’d say he’s doing just fine. Past performance should inspire confidence. Never, fucking ever, trust a lawyer. Make them show you in terms you can understand exactly how what they are doing benefits you - and then be distrustful as fuck after that. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 4:20:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never, fucking ever, trust a lawyer. Make them show you in terms you can understand exactly how what they are doing benefits you - and then be distrustful as fuck after that. I have found that you have to prod them a lot to do things they said they would. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 4:21:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never, fucking ever, trust a lawyer. Make them show you in terms you can understand exactly how what they are doing benefits you - and then be distrustful as fuck after that. No wiser words have ever been spoken. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 4:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No wiser words have ever been spoken. Well, I’m a lawyer... so not hard to fake wisdom on this point. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 5:48:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, I’m a lawyer... so not hard to fake wisdom on this point. So we shouldn't trust your opinion then? Got it 
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Posted: 9/26/2020 5:55:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we shouldn't trust your opinion then? Got it You shouldn’t until I’ve demonstrated in normal human speech how what I am saying benefits or harms you. Appreciate the wink; but seriously... lawyers are not normal people and deserve to be treated with distrust. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 6:06:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It worries me though; because from the outside you don’t know what’s going on, If we knew what was going on, so would the prosecution. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 6:50:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You shouldn’t until I’ve demonstrated in normal human speech how what I am saying benefits or harms you. Appreciate the wink; but seriously... lawyers are not normal people and deserve to be treated with distrust. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So we shouldn't trust your opinion then? Got it You shouldn’t until I’ve demonstrated in normal human speech how what I am saying benefits or harms you. Appreciate the wink; but seriously... lawyers are not normal people and deserve to be treated with distrust. I appreciate the honesty and agree. Trust but verify. Or maybe backwards. Verify and trust what’s in writing. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 6:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I appreciate the honesty and agree. Trust but verify. Or maybe backwards. Verify and trust what’s in writing. ??????? ?? ???????? |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 7:09:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You shouldn’t until I’ve demonstrated in normal human speech how what I am saying benefits or harms you. Appreciate the wink; but seriously... lawyers are not normal people and deserve to be treated with distrust. Ultimately it's not up to us to trust Wood, that's Kyle's call and he'll be the only one in a position to fully hear him out. All we can do is watch how it plays out. Last time Wood went to work we saw what he did for Nick Sandmann, which I think is a good indicator that Wood can be helpful for Kyle. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 7:25:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ultimately it's not up to us to trust Wood, that's Kyle's call and he'll be the only one in a position to fully hear him out. All we can do is watch how it plays out. Last time Wood went to work we saw what he did for Nick Sandmann, which I think is a good indicator that Wood can be helpful for Kyle. Like I said, I’m hopeful. I don’t understand why it is safer for Kyle to be held in a county jail, which are generally notoriously dangerous. I’m really hoping that is part of the backend civil strategy; but if it is why would you tweet your client is safer there? Like you said, that’s Kyle’s call... he’s an adult now making decisions that no adult among us would care to make. Like a lot of life, sometimes you just pray and hope it works out. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:03:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat video goes great with the song below.  Thomas Rhett - Be A Light (Fan Video) Watch the video with the volume down and listen to this song, any where you pick it up. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:13:23 PM EDT
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So that black eye that he had, posted above, would that be from an inmate or a officer? I'm guessing inmate...??? I wanted to say that I hope it was from an inmate and not a damn officer but Jesus, that's a no-win situation all around. He has got to have a big Target on his back
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:16:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said, I’m hopeful. I don’t understand why it is safer for Kyle to be held in a county jail, which are generally notoriously dangerous. I’m really hoping that is part of the backend civil strategy; but if it is why would you tweet your client is safer there? Like you said, that’s Kyle’s call... he’s an adult now making decisions that no adult among us would care to make. Like a lot of life, sometimes you just pray and hope it works out. Two questions - 1. The alternative to Kyle sitting in County Jail would seem to be a safehouse somewhere. That would have to probably meet some limitations based on bail conditions and probably be expensive for quality security, yes? 2. Other than this Robert Barnes character (Alex Jones attorney for the Sandy Hook is a fraud and nobody died there case) who is basically a tax lawyer, what qualified criminal defense attorneys have expressed concern about the quality of representation? |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:24:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said, I’m hopeful. I don’t understand why it is safer for Kyle to be held in a county jail, which are generally notoriously dangerous. I’m really hoping that is part of the backend civil strategy; but if it is why would you tweet your client is safer there? Like you said, that’s Kyle’s call... he’s an adult now making decisions that no adult among us would care to make. Like a lot of life, sometimes you just pray and hope it works out. Just a thought and I could be totally off base. It could be safer for Kyle to remain in jail for as long as possible for the sake of defamation suit. It could be laid out in court that the media and social media had slandered him so much that there was really no other viable option for Kyle, but to remain in custody to keep him safe. True or not, it could be used. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two questions - 1. The alternative to Kyle sitting in County Jail would seem to be a safehouse somewhere. That would have to probably meet some limitations based on bail conditions and probably be expensive for quality security, yes? 2. Other than this Robert Barnes character (Alex Jones attorney for the Sandy Hook is a fraud and nobody died there case) who is basically a tax lawyer, what qualified criminal defense attorneys have expressed concern about the quality of representation? As I said earlier, I do not understand why they are making these choices. And your suggestions don’t help me understand it any better. |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:43:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Last I read, Pierce is gone. He stepped out due to ethical conflicts. I’ve written Wood and offered to work for free. He’d have to be damn desperate to accept that offer and he hasn’t yet, so I hold out hope. I believe he stepped away form being involved in the #FightBack fund to avoid the appearance of ethical conflicts. I haven't read that he stepped away from the case. Edit: he represented Kyle at the extradition hearing on Friday 9.25.20 https://politicofire.com/2020/09/25/kyle-rittenhouse-makes-first-court-appearance-his-attorney-fights-extradition-to-wisconsin/ |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:46:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ultimately it's not up to us to trust Wood, that's Kyle's call and he'll be the only one in a position to fully hear him out. All we can do is watch how it plays out. Last time Wood went to work we saw what he did for Nick Sandmann, which I think is a good indicator that Wood can be helpful for Kyle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You shouldn’t until I’ve demonstrated in normal human speech how what I am saying benefits or harms you. Appreciate the wink; but seriously... lawyers are not normal people and deserve to be treated with distrust. Ultimately it's not up to us to trust Wood, that's Kyle's call and he'll be the only one in a position to fully hear him out. All we can do is watch how it plays out. Last time Wood went to work we saw what he did for Nick Sandmann, which I think is a good indicator that Wood can be helpful for Kyle. It's Kyle's parents' call, too, right? He is still a minor, isn't he? |
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:48:36 PM EDT
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Kyle
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:49:14 PM EDT
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is not
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Posted: 9/26/2020 8:49:53 PM EDT
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a HERO!
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