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Posted: 11/15/2017 3:08:23 PM EST
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Posted: 11/15/2017 3:25:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:It goes way beyond Hillary. They flock together on every topic, whether it's Trump related or not. They are AlwaysSwamp more than NeverTrump. 
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Posted: 11/15/2017 3:28:01 PM EST
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LOL!!! That's HIM!!!!  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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link removed , just saw DKProfs warning on previous page That's HIM!!!! 
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Posted: 11/15/2017 3:34:56 PM EST
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"Gamespot" for the Sponge..........even I have a hard time accepting that one.............oh well, what games to like the most Sponge? |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 3:40:29 PM EST
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It goes way beyond Hillary. They flock together on every topic, whether it's Trump related or not. They are AlwaysSwamp more than NeverTrump. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 3:41:07 PM EST
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/15/how-trump-walked-into-putins-web-luke
In late 2015 the British eavesdropping agency, GCHQ, was carrying out standard “collection” against Moscow targets. These were known Kremlin operatives already on the grid. Nothing unusual here – except that the Russians were talking to people associated with Trump. The precise nature of these exchanges has not been made public, but according to sources in the US and the UK, they formed a suspicious pattern. They continued through the first half of 2016. The intelligence was handed to the US as part of a routine sharing of information.
The FBI and the CIA were slow to appreciate the extensive nature of these contacts between Trump’s team and Moscow. This was in part due to institutional squeamishness – the law prohibits US agencies from examining the private communications of US citizens without a warrant. But the electronic intelligence suggested Steele was right. According to one account, the US agencies looked as if they were asleep. “‘Wake up! There’s something not right here!’ – the BND [German intelligence], the Dutch, the French and SIS were all saying this,” one Washington-based source told me. That summer, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, flew to the US to personally brief CIA chief John Brennan. The matter was deemed so important that it was handled at “director level”, face-to-face between the two agency chiefs. James Clapper, director of national intelligence, later confirmed the “sensitive” stream of intelligence from Europe. After a slow start, Brennan used the GCHQ information and other tip-offs to launch a major inter-agency investigation. Meanwhile, the FBI was receiving disturbing warnings from Steele. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 3:59:25 PM EST
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LOL!!! That's HIM!!!! But one obvious exception. The person on that board is using different angles to argue the same points. Almost as though he's doing the same thing there that he's doing here. He's playing to the audience. Pathetically transparent. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:18:57 PM EST
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:27:22 PM EST
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https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/15/how-trump-walked-into-putins-web-luke In late 2015 the British eavesdropping agency, GCHQ, was carrying out standard collection against Moscow targets. These were known Kremlin operatives already on the grid. Nothing unusual here except that the Russians were talking to people associated with Trump. The precise nature of these exchanges has not been made public, but according to sources in the US and the UK, they formed a suspicious pattern. They continued through the first half of 2016. The intelligence was handed to the US as part of a routine sharing of information.
The FBI and the CIA were slow to appreciate the extensive nature of these contacts between Trumps team and Moscow. This was in part due to institutional squeamishness the law prohibits US agencies from examining the private communications of US citizens without a warrant. But the electronic intelligence suggested Steele was right. According to one account, the US agencies looked as if they were asleep. Wake up! Theres something not right here! the BND [German intelligence], the Dutch, the French and SIS were all saying this, one Washington-based source told me. That summer, GCHQs then head, Robert Hannigan, flew to the US to personally brief CIA chief John Brennan. The matter was deemed so important that it was handled at director level, face-to-face between the two agency chiefs. James Clapper, director of national intelligence, later confirmed the sensitive stream of intelligence from Europe. After a slow start, Brennan used the GCHQ information and other tip-offs to launch a major inter-agency investigation. Meanwhile, the FBI was receiving disturbing warnings from Steele. "From April, Steele investigated Trump on behalf of the DNC, Fusions anonymous client" "Normally an intelligence officer would debrief sources directly, but since Steele could no longer visit Russia, this had to be done by others, or in third countries. There were intermediaries, subsources, operators a sensitive chain." "The report said Trump had turned down various lucrative real estate development business deals in Russia, especially in connection with the 2018 World Cup, hosted by Moscow. " "That summer, GCHQs then head, Robert Hannigan, flew to the US to personally brief CIA chief John Brennan. The matter was deemed so important that it was handled at director level, face-to-face between the two agency chiefs. James Clapper, director of national intelligence, later confirmed the sensitive stream of intelligence from Europe. After a slow start, Brennan used the GCHQ information and other tip-offs to launch a major inter-agency investigation. " |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 4:29:50 PM EST
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I'm actually on a retro-gaming kick right now with a Raspberry Pi running RetroPie. Old school arcade games and NES / SNES glory  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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<div class="quote-container"><div class="quote-style">Quoted: "Gamespot" for the Sponge..........even I have a hard time accepting that one.............oh well, what games to like the most Sponge? I am too old to ever get the hang of the quick action packed computer games...........the younger people are so much better than I am it is ridiculous. ------------------------------------------------------------------- My response: <div class="quote-style">My 6 year old son demolished me at COD multiplayer on the PS4 the other day. I used to be great at games like that back in the old days. Quake II, etc. Now, it's like I'm in slow-motion, and my kids are in fast forward. 
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Posted: 11/15/2017 6:25:35 PM EST
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They really really need to try to legitimize the dossier at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
They really really need to try to legitimize the dossier at this point. Before this, in early spring 2016, Simpson approached Steele, his friend and colleague. Steele began to scrutinise Paul Manafort, who would soon become Trump’s new campaign manager. So they started investigating Manafort, before he was on Trumps team, why? Feb. 29, 2016: Manafort reportedly reaches out to Trump via their mutual friend Tom Barrack with two memos, which laid out the case for why he’d be a good fit for the campaign. These memos were reported on by the New York Times in April 2017. In one of them, Manafort “refers vaguely to work he performed, years ago, to clear noisy airspace over Mr. Trump’s Florida resort.” He stresses that he’ll work for free. The Washington Post: “ ‘I really need to get to’ Trump, Manafort said, according to Barrack. He told Barrack he wanted to work as Trump’s convention manager, helping him navigate what they expected would be a contentious affair.” Hmm, interesting. Seems like he infiltrated Trumps team to me. From April, Steele investigated Trump on behalf of the DNC, Fusion’s anonymous client. All Steele knew at first was that the client was a law firm. Yeah, I'm sure the super spy knew nothing of his clients. Over time, Steele had built up a network of sources. He was protective of them: who they were he would never say. It could be someone well-known – a foreign government official or diplomat with access to secret material. Or it could be someone obscure – a lowly chambermaid cleaning the penthouse suite and emptying the bins in a five-star hotel. So, in other words. He's not going to back up the claims. Normally an intelligence officer would debrief sources directly, but since Steele could no longer visit Russia, this had to be done by others, or in third countries. There were intermediaries, subsources, operators – a sensitive chain. Only one of Steele’s sources on Trump knew of Steele. Steele put out his Trump-Russia query and waited for answers. His sources started reporting back. The information was astonishing; “hair-raising”. As he told friends: “For anyone who reads it, this is a life-changing experience.” lol, so he was just being feed information from unvetted supposed Russian sources, through intermediaries, whom he never even had contact with. Amazing. Was he also paying for this intel? In June 2016, Steele typed up his first memo. He sent it to Fusion. It arrived via enciphered mail. The headline read: US Presidential Election: Republican Candidate Donald Trump’s Activities in Russia and Compromising Relationship with the Kremlin. Its text began: “Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in the western alliance.”
“So far TRUMP has declined various sweetener real estate business deals, offered him in Russia to further the Kremlin’s cultivation of him. However he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals. “Former top Russian intelligence officer claims FSB has compromised TRUMP through his activities in Moscow sufficiently to be able to blackmail him. According to several knowledgeable sources, his conduct in Moscow has included perverted sexual acts which have been arranged/monitored by the FSB. “A dossier of compromising material on Hillary CLINTON has been collated by the Russian Intelligence Services over many years and mainly comprises bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia and intercepted phone calls rather than any embarrassing conduct. The dossier is controlled by Kremlin spokesman, PESKOV, directly on Putin’s orders. However, it has not yet been distributed abroad, including to TRUMP. Russian intentions for its deployment still unclear.” lol yeah, so Russia started grooming Trump to be a "manchurian candidate" 5 years ago. Sounds legit. 
No business deals.....but but he was given intelligence. Uh huh. Business deals are tangible and can be found out and proven, false. Accuse him of being given intelligence though (As if that's a crime anyways, if Russia wants to share intelligence by all means go ahead.)...well hard to disprove that huh. Oh so now it's a blackmail deal because of sexual activities arranged/monitored by FSB. lol Oh, There's a Hillary dossier, but Russia didn't release it to Trump or anyone. So they got damaging info on Hillary, and they supposedly don't want her to win, and they hack the dnc/etc, engage in a propaganda war, but they keep their intel that would sink her bottled up. Sounds legit. I suppose you could claim it's because they were saving it in case she won, but what's stopping them now? It would help Trump would it not? and that's their goal right? Right? Bullshit. If Steele’s reporting was to be believed, Trump had been colluding with Russia. This arrangement was transactional, with both sides trading favours. The report said Trump had turned down “various lucrative real estate development business deals in Russia”, especially in connection with the 2018 World Cup, hosted by Moscow. But he had been happy to accept a flow of Kremlin-sourced intelligence material, apparently delivered to him by his inner circle. Uh, they claim both sides traded favors, but all they got is Trump received intelligence material via his campaign? Something doesn't add up here don't you think? Steele’s collaborators offered salacious details. The memo said that Russian intelligence had sought to exploit “TRUMP’s personal obsessions and sexual perversion” during his 2013 stay at Moscow’s Ritz-Carlton hotel for the Miss Universe beauty pageant. The operation had allegedly worked. The tycoon had booked the presidential suite of the Ritz-Carlton hotel “where he knew President and Mrs OBAMA (whom he hated) had stayed on one of their official trips to Russia”.
There, the memo said, Trump had deliberately “defiled” the Obamas’ bed. A number of prostitutes “had performed a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him”. The memo also alleged: “The hotel was known to be under FSB control with microphones and concealed cameras in all the main rooms to record anything they wanted to.” lmfao, ok now if you read this and still think it's legit. You are a moron. They went too far, losing credibility, but they just couldn't help themselves. Side note, so the President of the United States stayed in a hotel room known to be under FSB control and loaded up with a bunch of hidden microphones and concealed cameras? As well as sex, there was another fascinating dimension to this alleged plot, categorically denied by Trump. According to Steele’s sources, associates of Trump had held a series of clandestine meetings in central Europe, Moscow and elsewhere with Russian spies. The Russians were very good at tradecraft. Nonetheless, could this be a trail that others might later detect?
Steele’s sources offered one final devastating piece of information. They alleged that Trump’s team had co-ordinated with Russia on the hacking operation against Clinton. And that the Americans had secretly co-paid for it. Implies, there's no evidence, just a claim. Trumps associates are having clandestine meetings across the globe but we got nothing. More claims, no evidence/facts. In late 2015 the British eavesdropping agency, GCHQ, was carrying out standard “collection” against Moscow targets. These were known Kremlin operatives already on the grid. Nothing unusual here – except that the Russians were talking to people associated with Trump. The precise nature of these exchanges has not been made public, but according to sources in the US and the UK, they formed a suspicious pattern. They continued through the first half of 2016. The intelligence was handed to the US as part of a routine sharing of information. Yeah, because the insinuation is far more damaging than the truth if they were made public I'm sure. That summer, GCHQ’s then head, Robert Hannigan, flew to the US to personally brief CIA chief John Brennan. The matter was deemed so important that it was handled at “director level”, face-to-face between the two agency chiefs. James Clapper, director of national intelligence, later confirmed the “sensitive” stream of intelligence from Europe. After a slow start, Brennan used the GCHQ information and other tip-offs to launch a major inter-agency investigation. Meanwhile, the FBI was receiving disturbing warnings from Steele. Are we assuming the purpose and content of meeting here? Something interesting, Robert Hannigan resigned on 23 January 2017. Hmmm. In June, Steele flew to Rome to brief the FBI contact with whom he had co-operated over Fifa. His information started to reach the bureau in Washington. It had certainly arrived by the time of the Democratic National Convention in late July, when WikiLeaks first began releasing hacked Democratic emails. It was at this moment that FBI director James Comey opened a formal investigation into Trump-Russia.
In September, Steele went back to Rome. There he met with an FBI team. Their response was one of “shock and horror,” Steele said. The bureau asked him to explain how he had compiled his reports, and to give background on his sources. It asked him to send future copies. Steele had hoped for a thorough and decisive FBI investigation. Instead, it moved cautiously. The agency told him that it couldn’t intervene or go public with material involving a presidential candidate. Then it went silent. Steele’s frustrations grew. Later that month, Steele had a series of off-the-record meetings with a small number of US journalists. They included the New York Times, the Washington Post, Yahoo! News, the New Yorker and CNN. In mid-October he visited New York and met with reporters again. Hmmm, so here we see Steele was motivated to get his information to the FBI, but only because he wanted the FBI to go public with it. Looks like the FBI agents saw through his plan, they can't just act on a bunch of outlandish claims without any evidentiary backing. So he took it upon himself to try to take it public via journalists, which could compromise an investigation but that wasn't important to him. His goal was to make his claims public. A thought I've had about Steele, is there a possibility he was being fed the false information intentionally either by Russia, or Clinton's people, maybe collusion between the two. Assuming he didn't just make it up. The fact he was so eager to "believe" and disseminate these outlandish claims, leads me to believe he was in on it. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 11:24:34 PM EST
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. 
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Posted: 11/15/2017 11:37:15 PM EST
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. But the electronic intelligence suggested Steele was right. According to one account, the US agencies looked as if they were asleep. Wake up! Theres something not right here! the BND [German intelligence], the Dutch, the French and SIS were all saying this, one Washington-based source told me. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 11:44:01 PM EST
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'According to one account'.
I guess when one is a dedicated #NeverTrumper/#ImWithHer bot, one must have a rather 'permissive' sense of credulity, to help make all those propaganda pieces go down easy. Even so, you're kind of being the Linda Lovelace of accepting hilariously shady 'journalism' as news. Every last drop of the BS is eagerly gobbled up by you and yours. |
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Posted: 11/15/2017 11:55:31 PM EST
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. But the electronic intelligence suggested Steele was right. According to one account, the US agencies looked as if they were asleep. Wake up! Theres something not right here! the BND [German intelligence], the Dutch, the French and SIS were all saying this, one Washington-based source told me. Your contributions have grown so pathetic, even you can't find a way to discuss them. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 12:07:06 AM EST
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Do you not even have the guts to offer commentary on your own postings anymore? Just throw garbage tweets or articles without your own take on it? Your contributions have grown so pathetic, even you can't find a way to discuss them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. But the electronic intelligence suggested Steele was right. According to one account, the US agencies looked as if they were asleep. Wake up! Theres something not right here! the BND [German intelligence], the Dutch, the French and SIS were all saying this, one Washington-based source told me. Your contributions have grown so pathetic, even you can't find a way to discuss them. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 12:13:18 AM EST
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The irony is that the left's little sabotage attempt with the piss dossier was undone by their own degeneracy. False sexual allegations are a hallmark of politics since forever. Back in 1988, allegations of adultery could undo a candidate like Gary Heart. But since that time the left has been so successful in promoting degeneracy that most sexual allegations would elicit a ho hum. Adultery? Meh. Homosexuality? No one cares (and the Bernie Bros savage you as a homophobe). Pretty much only the most extreme fetishes can shock the public now. The most effective is, of course, kid toucher. But they didn't dare open that can of worms with Pizzagate and Willy's little trips to Pedo Island fresh in everyone's mind. Can't do bestiality either because Trump lives in a skyscraper and doesn't even have a dog. BDSM is out too with Fifty Shades of Grey proving so popular among the Dems target demographic (women). So pee fetish was pretty much all they had. So now they're left trying to convince the public that a guy who is so germaphobic that he orders his steak well done is letting Russian hookers piss on him. Talk about being hoisted by your own petard.
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Posted: 11/16/2017 12:15:25 AM EST
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Multiple foreign intelligence agencies have intercepts involving Trump since 2015. Is that sufficient commentary? |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 12:19:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Multiple foreign intelligence agencies have intercepts involving Trump since 2015. Is that sufficient commentary? Wtf does "Washington-based" mean, anyway?
You know what, you're right, you don't have anything to add to the ridiculous links you post. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 2:33:52 AM EST
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They really really need to try to legitimize the dossier at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
They really really need to try to legitimize the dossier at this point. My guess would be that they're worried that the whole case is predicated on that ridiculous piece of nonsense, and if it's true they got a FISA judge to sign off on surveillance based on the dossier, which was paid for by a political opponent and written by someone also being paid by the FBI, they know the proverbial shit is about to hit the fan. They need to paint the picture that it was valid research on which to get a FISA warrant. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 2:40:37 AM EST
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Multiple foreign intelligence agencies have intercepts involving Trump since 2015. Is that sufficient commentary? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. But the electronic intelligence suggested Steele was right. According to one account, the US agencies looked as if they were asleep. Wake up! Theres something not right here! the BND [German intelligence], the Dutch, the French and SIS were all saying this, one Washington-based source told me. Your contributions have grown so pathetic, even you can't find a way to discuss them. That's it guys, lock 'em up! An anonymous Washington based source says it's true! Is this gonna be like the "17 National Security Agencies!" thing? |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 2:42:14 AM EST
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Multiple foreign intelligence agencies have intercepts involving Trump since 2015. Is that sufficient commentary? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. But the electronic intelligence suggested Steele was right. According to one account, the US agencies looked as if they were asleep. Wake up! Theres something not right here! the BND [German intelligence], the Dutch, the French and SIS were all saying this, one Washington-based source told me. Your contributions have grown so pathetic, even you can't find a way to discuss them. lol |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 9:22:30 AM EST
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Minor update:
Looks like Gates' attorney's is asking for a bunch of changes to the conditions of his bond. The SC is asking the judge to deny the requests. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4243358/11-15-17-US-Opposition-Gates-Motion.pdf I wonder if they'll keep the two defendants together as one trial or if the defense will eventually try and split the trial into two. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 9:48:26 AM EST
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You know the one thing i get out of all of this?
Being a CIA or FBI operative must really suck. You get information, all your fault. You don't get information, all your fault. Information you got is wrong, all your fault. You get information but try to verify it and take too long, all your fault. It's like being married....
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Posted: 11/16/2017 1:43:49 PM EST
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Multiple foreign intelligence agencies have intercepts involving Trump since 2015. Is that sufficient commentary? |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 1:52:13 PM EST
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I can't understand what the motivation is, for a few folks to constantly post misleading nonsense, while their stupidity/agenda/defective logic, is continuously pointed out.
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Posted: 11/16/2017 2:11:37 PM EST
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Guardian story So they started investigating Manafort, before he was on Trumps team, why? Slate (yes I'll even use your own sides reporting against you) Hmm, interesting. Seems like he infiltrated Trumps team to me. Guardian Story Yeah, I'm sure the super spy knew nothing of his clients. Guardian Story So, in other words. He's not going to back up the claims. Guardian Story lol, so he was just being feed information from unvetted supposed Russian sources, through intermediaries, whom he never even had contact with. Amazing. Was he also paying for this intel? Guardian Story lol yeah, so Russia started grooming Trump to be a "manchurian candidate" 5 years ago. Sounds legit.
No business deals.....but but he was given intelligence. Uh huh. Business deals are tangible and can be found out and proven, false. Accuse him of being given intelligence though (As if that's a crime anyways, if Russia wants to share intelligence by all means go ahead.)...well hard to disprove that huh. Oh so now it's a blackmail deal because of sexual activities arranged/monitored by FSB. lol Oh, There's a Hillary dossier, but Russia didn't release it to Trump or anyone. So they got damaging info on Hillary, and they supposedly don't want her to win, and they hack the dnc/etc, engage in a propaganda war, but they keep their intel that would sink her bottled up. Sounds legit. I suppose you could claim it's because they were saving it in case she won, but what's stopping them now? It would help Trump would it not? and that's their goal right? Right? Bullshit. Guardian Story Uh, they claim both sides traded favors, but all they got is Trump received intelligence material via his campaign? Something doesn't add up here don't you think? Guardian Story lmfao, ok now if you read this and still think it's legit. You are a moron. They went too far, losing credibility, but they just couldn't help themselves. Side note, so the President of the United States stayed in a hotel room known to be under FSB control and loaded up with a bunch of hidden microphones and concealed cameras? Guardian Story Implies, there's no evidence, just a claim. Trumps associates are having clandestine meetings across the globe but we got nothing. More claims, no evidence/facts. Guardian Story Yeah, because the insinuation is far more damaging than the truth if they were made public I'm sure. Guardian Story Are we assuming the purpose and content of meeting here? Something interesting, Robert Hannigan resigned on 23 January 2017. Hmmm. Guardian Story Hmmm, so here we see Steele was motivated to get his information to the FBI, but only because he wanted the FBI to go public with it. Looks like the FBI agents saw through his plan, they can't just act on a bunch of outlandish claims without any evidentiary backing. So he took it upon himself to try to take it public via journalists, which could compromise an investigation but that wasn't important to him. His goal was to make his claims public. A thought I've had about Steele, is there a possibility he was being fed the false information intentionally either by Russia, or Clinton's people, maybe collusion between the two. Assuming he didn't just make it up. The fact he was so eager to "believe" and disseminate these outlandish claims, leads me to believe he was in on it. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 2:18:20 PM EST
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Steele was a paid informant acting on behalf of Clinton and the Russians. He believed in his work because he wanted to get paid. Fusion GPS made it worth his while to lie, make claims to the media and go into hiding once the shit hit the fan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Guardian story So they started investigating Manafort, before he was on Trumps team, why? Slate (yes I'll even use your own sides reporting against you) Hmm, interesting. Seems like he infiltrated Trumps team to me. Guardian Story Yeah, I'm sure the super spy knew nothing of his clients. Guardian Story So, in other words. He's not going to back up the claims. Guardian Story lol, so he was just being feed information from unvetted supposed Russian sources, through intermediaries, whom he never even had contact with. Amazing. Was he also paying for this intel? Guardian Story lol yeah, so Russia started grooming Trump to be a "manchurian candidate" 5 years ago. Sounds legit.
No business deals.....but but he was given intelligence. Uh huh. Business deals are tangible and can be found out and proven, false. Accuse him of being given intelligence though (As if that's a crime anyways, if Russia wants to share intelligence by all means go ahead.)...well hard to disprove that huh. Oh so now it's a blackmail deal because of sexual activities arranged/monitored by FSB. lol Oh, There's a Hillary dossier, but Russia didn't release it to Trump or anyone. So they got damaging info on Hillary, and they supposedly don't want her to win, and they hack the dnc/etc, engage in a propaganda war, but they keep their intel that would sink her bottled up. Sounds legit. I suppose you could claim it's because they were saving it in case she won, but what's stopping them now? It would help Trump would it not? and that's their goal right? Right? Bullshit. Guardian Story Uh, they claim both sides traded favors, but all they got is Trump received intelligence material via his campaign? Something doesn't add up here don't you think? Guardian Story lmfao, ok now if you read this and still think it's legit. You are a moron. They went too far, losing credibility, but they just couldn't help themselves. Side note, so the President of the United States stayed in a hotel room known to be under FSB control and loaded up with a bunch of hidden microphones and concealed cameras? Guardian Story Implies, there's no evidence, just a claim. Trumps associates are having clandestine meetings across the globe but we got nothing. More claims, no evidence/facts. Guardian Story Yeah, because the insinuation is far more damaging than the truth if they were made public I'm sure. Guardian Story Are we assuming the purpose and content of meeting here? Something interesting, Robert Hannigan resigned on 23 January 2017. Hmmm. Guardian Story Hmmm, so here we see Steele was motivated to get his information to the FBI, but only because he wanted the FBI to go public with it. Looks like the FBI agents saw through his plan, they can't just act on a bunch of outlandish claims without any evidentiary backing. So he took it upon himself to try to take it public via journalists, which could compromise an investigation but that wasn't important to him. His goal was to make his claims public. A thought I've had about Steele, is there a possibility he was being fed the false information intentionally either by Russia, or Clinton's people, maybe collusion between the two. Assuming he didn't just make it up. The fact he was so eager to "believe" and disseminate these outlandish claims, leads me to believe he was in on it. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 2:22:41 PM EST
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T Multiple foreign intelligence agencies have intercepts involving Trump since 2015. Is that sufficient commentary? Because, literally every foreigner doing business in the US has "multiple intercepts" too....... |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 2:59:02 PM EST
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there was some duochebag on Morning Joe today who works for Guardian giving him a 70- 90% believability rating. You know- because he's British and worked for the government. So serious.
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Posted: 11/16/2017 3:20:58 PM EST
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Minor update: Looks like Gates' attorney's is asking for a bunch of changes to the conditions of his bond. The SC is asking the judge to deny the requests. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4243358/11-15-17-US-Opposition-Gates-Motion.pdf I wonder if they'll keep the two defendants together as one trial or if the defense will eventually try and split the trial into two. Also suprised if either actually took their case to trial. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 5:46:54 PM EST
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If you can't trust a former spy who is a paid political operative, who can you trust? |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 5:48:41 PM EST
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Are they "intercepting"everything, like the NSA? Because, literally every foreigner doing business in the US has "multiple intercepts" too....... |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 5:56:48 PM EST
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LOL!!! That's HIM!!!! Quote HistoryYou've been had, shill. 
Much gun ownership, such conservatism, wow 
Do you even own any guns? Lol. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 6:25:45 PM EST
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We've been trusting spies for 100 years.As long as they are not Russian spies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you can't trust a former spy who is a paid political operative, who can you trust? Except you guys couldn't choke on enough Russian cock during obama's 8 years.
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Posted: 11/16/2017 6:38:05 PM EST
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Its not that they have been on an intercept-it's what they have said on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are they "intercepting"everything, like the NSA? Because, literally every foreigner doing business in the US has "multiple intercepts" too....... |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 6:38:53 PM EST
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A friendly PSA (and reminder) to everyone in this thread. 1) DO NOT take disagreements or disputes from ARFCOM to other boards. Trying to "hunt down" a member based on posts on other boards - presumably in an attempt to actually identify them - and then bringing that back to ARFCOM starts to get uncomfortably close to the Arock line. Please refrain from doing so. If you want to argue with someone on ARFCOM, limit it to ARFCOM. 2) Staff have previously (in fact there used to be a tacked thread) mentioned that accusing people of being paid "shills" or political "operatives" because you do not like their opinions is not acceptable. If you do so, it WILL result in account warnings or more. If you want to post in this thread - or any other thread - please do NOT engage in such behavior. What in the fuck is that about? We know for a fact they exist, especially on a site such as this, and that cannot be questioned? So to be "nice" and not hurt their feelings we should all just let them seed this website with bullshit information and call it quits? It is not about opinion it is about fact. Why do we need to concede to delusional opinion? I hope this is not an account warning for asking. 
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Posted: 11/16/2017 6:51:51 PM EST
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We've been trusting spies for 100 years.As long as they are not Russian spies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/16/2017 6:53:17 PM EST
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I can't understand what the motivation is, for a few folks to constantly post misleading nonsense, while their stupidity/agenda/defective logic, is continuously pointed out. Apparently by responding with a simple question rather than answering or slinging poop it makes them appear level headed and intelligent to the passers by. The validity of what they say doesnt matter in the long run when the repetition of their info becomes high enough. I am beginning to believe it is has been a tested and proven technique that plants the smallest seed of doubt in impressionable minds. Perhaps the tangible version of subliminal messaging. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 7:01:16 PM EST
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#2 is sad. What in the fuck is that about? We know for a fact they exist, especially on a site such as this, and that cannot be questioned? So to be "nice" and not hurt their feelings we should all just let them seed this website with bullshit information and call it quits? It is not about opinion it is about fact. Why do we need to concede to delusional opinion? I hope this is not an account warning for asking. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 7:53:03 PM EST
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Mueller subpoenaed the Trump campaign for Russia-related documents of a dozen campaign members about 4 weeks ago:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-issued-subpoena-for-russia-related-documents-from-trump-campaign-officials-1510875492 Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team in mid-October issued a subpoena to President Donald Trump’s campaign requesting Russia-related documents from more than a dozen top officials, according to a person familiar with the matter.
The subpoena, which requested documents and emails from the listed campaign officials that reference a set of Russia-related keywords, marked Mr. Mueller’s first official order for information from the campaign, according to the person. The subpoena didn’t compel any officials to testify before Mr. Mueller’s grand jury, the person said. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 8:11:59 PM EST
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Update to my earlier post regarding Gate's motion to alter the conditions of his bond: Denied.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/360817-judge-denies-gates-request-to-leave-house-arrest-to-drive-kids-to |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 9:02:19 PM EST
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Gee I wonder why that would leak today...
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Posted: 11/16/2017 9:22:20 PM EST
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The discredited inventor of the 'dossier', and you link to a story based on him? Hillary lost. Get over it, buddy. But the electronic intelligence suggested Steele was right. According to one account, the US agencies looked as if they were asleep. Wake up! Theres something not right here! the BND [German intelligence], the Dutch, the French and SIS were all saying this, one Washington-based source told me. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 9:27:44 PM EST
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Mueller subpoenaed the Trump campaign for Russia-related documents of a dozen campaign members about 4 weeks ago: https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-issued-subpoena-for-russia-related-documents-from-trump-campaign-officials-1510875492 Quote HistoryQuoted:
Mueller subpoenaed the Trump campaign for Russia-related documents of a dozen campaign members about 4 weeks ago: https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-issued-subpoena-for-russia-related-documents-from-trump-campaign-officials-1510875492 Special counsel Robert Mueller's team in mid-October issued a subpoena to President Donald Trump's campaign requesting Russia-related documents from more than a dozen top officials, according to a person familiar with the matter.
The subpoena, which requested documents and emails from the listed campaign officials that reference a set of Russia-related keywords, marked Mr. Mueller's first official order for information from the campaign, according to the person. The subpoena didn't compel any officials to testify before Mr. Mueller's grand jury, the person said. If these turn up nothing, I'd say this thing is pretty much concluded. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 9:42:11 PM EST
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I know. If These_Guys don’t fit the definition of trolls idk who the fuck does. One more thing. I love how they speak in a manner like they are informing us of something important and that we were waiting to hear it. lol If noone engaged threads with the _s would they continue to speak to themselves or fade away? We are the oxygen to their flame. |
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Posted: 11/16/2017 10:21:27 PM EST
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Hey look, John "Skippy" Podesta also uses the Underscore Brothers' favorite term, "whataboutism."
Trump has practiced some of the favorite tactics of his role model Vladimir Putin, labeling any damaging revelation as "fake news" and practicing a refined form of "whataboutism." Coincidence?
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Posted: 11/16/2017 11:14:29 PM EST
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So what have they said? |
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Posted: 11/17/2017 6:35:35 AM EST
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So what have they said? Just like this whole Trump collusion witchhunt, y'all got nothing but boogeymen, innuendo, hearsay from unnamed sources and piss. In other news one of your girls is getting sentenced in Jax soon, see they had actual facts to convict in that case. 
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Posted: 11/17/2017 6:41:41 AM EST
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We've been trusting spies for 100 years.As long as they are not Russian spies. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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