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9/6/2006 11:43:30 AM EDT
Yesterday I visited the small arms museum at Rock Island Arsenal in Illinois.  They have a lot of experimental stuff, as well as just about every rifle or pistol we've fielded.  Everything in these pictures was tested by the government at some time.  Everything here also has documentation stating when it was cleaned, made, tested, etc.  If you've never been there, I highly recommend it.  


Entrance


Plaque on entrance
















































































M16A2 trial rifles










General Officer's Serial #1


Beretta Serail #1






Experimental AR mags


Early BFAs












Memorial Field with arty and tank pieces
9/6/2006 11:48:13 AM EDT
[#1]
Wow, i need to take a trip and go visit. Thanks for the pics.
9/6/2006 11:50:21 AM EDT
[#2]
very cool!!
9/6/2006 11:50:54 AM EDT
[#3]
Thanks for posting this, i buried my father in the Veterans Cemetery there in '70. It is a huge place, i hope to get back up there one day to see his grave. They have the service at the gate, give you a map with an X on it for location.I was 19 at the time, still remember all the red tape i had to wade thru.
9/6/2006 11:51:44 AM EDT
[#4]
I grew up not far from there. I didn't know it was open to the public. Next time I go to visit my Grandfather I'm gonna stop by and check it out.
9/6/2006 11:51:51 AM EDT
[#5]
Stay out of my house damnit
9/6/2006 11:54:29 AM EDT
[#6]
Awesome!

Thanks for the pics.
9/6/2006 11:55:13 AM EDT
[#7]
Sweet. Did they ask to see your FOID card to gaze at the guns? IL is pretty ghey like that.

One time I was at a store in IL looking at a rifle and the guy working there said "Sir, can I PLEASE see your FOID card?" I laughed and said "I'm not from this fucking communist state, I'm from Missouri!" He didn't laugh. Sorry, sweet pics.
9/6/2006 11:55:36 AM EDT
[#8]
That was cool I'm going to have to go there and take a look.

I'll also be the first to say this" How sad to see all thou rifles and handguns behind glass in stead of seeing then in front of someone's hand or shoulder!"
9/6/2006 11:56:06 AM EDT
[#9]
I think I just threw up a little in my pants.

9/6/2006 11:59:55 AM EDT
[#10]
Rock River Arsenal
9/6/2006 12:00:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Are they hiring 'curators'?
9/6/2006 12:23:22 PM EDT
[#12]
i'd be glad to take one of those m1a's off their hand  

9/6/2006 12:26:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Great pics! Looks like a must see....

Even bigger and better than Aberdeen...

At least they are somewhat safe from other government fucks who would melt them down....
9/6/2006 12:32:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Oh, I want one of those T-48 FALs soooo bad!
9/6/2006 12:35:17 PM EDT
[#15]
I've seen a Hotchkiss Revolving Cannon fired in person.....37mm of bang!

Cool post.
9/6/2006 12:39:35 PM EDT
[#16]
This thread is EASY to masturbate to too!!
9/6/2006 12:43:21 PM EDT
[#17]
Great pics.  Thanks for them.
9/6/2006 12:43:51 PM EDT
[#18]
Thanks for the pics!

BTW, a couple of the firearms in these two pics look like they are straight out of a sci-fi movie.





Weird.
9/6/2006 12:47:03 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I think I just threw up a little in my pants.


9/6/2006 12:47:31 PM EDT
[#20]


Does anybody know what weapon #5823 right in the center is?
9/6/2006 1:08:17 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
i1.tinypic.com/4hth26r.jpg

Does anybody know what weapon #5823 right in the center is?


No,  but it looks like a device to launch grapnel hooks
9/6/2006 1:11:46 PM EDT
[#22]
Sweeet!
9/6/2006 1:18:16 PM EDT
[#23]
Someone could make a fortune on machine gun rentals.
9/6/2006 1:22:31 PM EDT
[#24]
Best thread ever!

thanks for the pics!

--VT
9/6/2006 1:22:59 PM EDT
[#25]
Way cool.
9/6/2006 1:26:51 PM EDT
[#26]
I think I need some private time for me now...
9/6/2006 1:30:37 PM EDT
[#27]
Great post! Thanks for sharing.
9/6/2006 1:32:15 PM EDT
[#28]
Awesome pics!  I'm already planning my trip


What kind of gun is 7304 and 7306?
9/6/2006 2:01:55 PM EDT
[#29]
I believe they were marked as an experimental belt fed M16.
9/6/2006 2:14:25 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I believe they were marked as an experimental belt fed M16.


I guess Rock Island Arsenal hasn't gotten their Shrike delivered yet either.
9/6/2006 2:19:05 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
I laughed and said "I'm not from this fucking communist state, I'm from Missouri!"


You should have told him he could see your FOAD card instead!!!
9/6/2006 2:30:21 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
i'd be glad to take one of those m1a's off their hand  


I'll give you 2-1 odds, any amount you name, that there isn't an M1A pictured anywhere in those photos  
9/6/2006 2:39:12 PM EDT
[#33]
Rock Island Arsenal so owns SteyrAug's gun collection.
9/6/2006 2:41:05 PM EDT
[#34]
They don't need 3 each of MP40's, Stg44's, and M1 Thompsons.  I'd be happy to lighten their load of one of each.

Thanks for sharing the pics.
9/6/2006 2:49:40 PM EDT
[#35]
so the h&k p7m8 was almost the M9? sweet i love those things.
9/6/2006 3:19:40 PM EDT
[#36]
We have WOOD!
9/6/2006 3:38:38 PM EDT
[#37]
BEAUTIFULLLLL!
9/6/2006 3:46:06 PM EDT
[#38]
I live about 5 minutes from the museum,feel lucky to be able to go there frequently......was once friends with a curator that used to work there and went to see him one day,secratary said he was up in the attic of the building next door rummaging for a display he had in mind and said I could go look for him there,WOW you want to talk about endless rooms filled with the coolest stuff that would make any ARFCOMMER get a woody!    I had a frickin blast that day....but alas he has been replaced by female curator who has way different political views than one would imagine for a weapons museum,but that is a different story and I no longer have almost unlimited access........oh well,was fun while it lasted.
9/6/2006 3:52:06 PM EDT
[#39]
I want a pimped M60 now.....gold plated goodness
9/6/2006 3:53:52 PM EDT
[#40]
I worked there for 10 years.

The place used to emply 10,000 people.

When I started there, it was down to 6,000.  

When I was let go, they were downsizing to just over 2,000.

Thank you President Clinton.  
9/6/2006 4:06:23 PM EDT
[#41]
So, sd0324, how much of that shit is functional?
9/6/2006 4:19:24 PM EDT
[#42]
You know ,I am really not sure how much is functional, I assume most firearms are in working order....never got to shoot any of them.....
9/6/2006 4:25:28 PM EDT
[#43]
mmMmMmMm FG-42...mmMmMmmMMmM
9/6/2006 4:34:27 PM EDT
[#44]
Thats cool....great pics thanks for sharing
9/6/2006 4:37:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Jeez man 3 FG42s in both variants! thats gotta be around 400 plus thousand dollars of guns just for those 3!
9/6/2006 4:38:57 PM EDT
[#46]
I figured I would never have a good reason to set foot in that shithole state.  Now I might have to make an exception.  




-K
9/6/2006 4:45:12 PM EDT
[#47]
5823 was a mock up of what would become the OICW.  Well it started the whole ball rolling.   I have handeled the other one of those that is in the Smithsonian Collection.  I want to say it was "made" by Olin  defence as a display for the trade shows.  I will have to check on it though.  In the first 2 years of Small arms review there was a good run down of that so look for the first article about the OICW before HK got the contract ans it will exxplain it there.



see the basic idea of repeating grenade launcher and and 556 rifle.  It was a kind of revenge of the ACR program type of thing in the late eighties.

Hope that helps
 
9/6/2006 4:45:39 PM EDT
[#48]
SEVEN

SEVEN STONER 63s!!!!

ah ha ha!!!  I love to count!!!!
9/6/2006 4:53:00 PM EDT
[#49]
Awesome pictures.Thanks for taking the time to post.
Do they give you a guide with all the rifles,handguns etc. listed.
This is the best thread on here by far.
9/6/2006 4:54:40 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
I want a pimped M60 now.....gold plated goodness



It would be nice but you could not get 200rd through it without the barrel melting!

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