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When NK (or anyone) launches a 'test' ICBM, how does the US know it's a test at the time of launch? Is there an international memo sent out for all other countries to not attack, because it's 'only a test of our emergency attack system'? View Quote |
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Sending in some CIA assets with blank U.S. passports and a few duffel bags full of cash to court North Korean brass into a coup is our only semi realistic option for ousting Kim from power without a full scale war. I can't imagine the guy commands much loyalty and rules by fear. Enough money can buy courage. View Quote |
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Let me make sure I understand you guys......you are advocating for a hostile foreign state to attack American soil and kill millions of United States citizens...so that it may justify a broader military response? Do I have that right? Just trying to clarify because I am slow some times...you think it would be an acceptable pawn to give up to win the long game. (And you are saying this on the 4th of July) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Los Angeles is going to have to take one for the team. Not that they are on my team. In fact, I would say they are more innocent in their part for NK getting nukes than majority of voters in LA. |
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You got it wrong. Here are some deep thoughts for you since you seem "concerned." Most of the people in Best Korea are innocent people....so.... In fact, I would say they are more innocent in their part for NK getting nukes than majority of voters in LA. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Los Angeles is going to have to take one for the team. Not that they are on my team. In fact, I would say they are more innocent in their part for NK getting nukes than majority of voters in LA. |
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Let me make sure I understand you guys......you are advocating for a hostile foreign state to attack American soil and kill millions of United States citizens...so that it may justify a broader military response? Do I have that right? Just trying to clarify because I am slow some times...you think it would be an acceptable pawn to give up to win the long game. (And you are saying this on the 4th of July) View Quote I'd like to add that my brother lives like 20 minutes from LA, and my girlfriend will be in LA for school soon. So if LA ever got nuked, yeah we'd lose a lot of Americans, but I'd lose basically the only family I have. |
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You are right in that the vast majority of North Koreans didn't ask for the government they are imprisoned by. That said, to be accepting of slaughtering American citizens (sorry, but there are a lot of them in California) is absurd. I may not agree with their politics, but I don't want them dead....and I certainly will not accept some foreign dictator deciding that anyone in my country should be dead. Sorry...I'm not a big fan of killing millions of people over a dick swinging contest....especially when a lot of them are normal folks who happen to live near some insane enclaves of leftists. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Los Angeles is going to have to take one for the team. Not that they are on my team. In fact, I would say they are more innocent in their part for NK getting nukes than majority of voters in LA. |
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Yes, because they don't really care about American lives. I'd like to add that my brother lives like 20 minutes from LA, and my girlfriend will be in LA for school soon. So if LA ever got nuked, yeah we'd lose a lot of Americans, but I'd lose basically the only family I have. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Let me make sure I understand you guys......you are advocating for a hostile foreign state to attack American soil and kill millions of United States citizens...so that it may justify a broader military response? Do I have that right? Just trying to clarify because I am slow some times...you think it would be an acceptable pawn to give up to win the long game. (And you are saying this on the 4th of July) I'd like to add that my brother lives like 20 minutes from LA, and my girlfriend will be in LA for school soon. So if LA ever got nuked, yeah we'd lose a lot of Americans, but I'd lose basically the only family I have. |
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Accepting has nothing to do with it. All I care about is reality. If we fire nukes at NK or if they fire them at us, a lot of innocents are going to die and that is the way it is. That being said, if a city was going to get hit and you had to pick one, which would you pick? View Quote |
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Those generals have been around for a long time and were loyal to his father as well. You bet Kim pays the guys around him extremely well, like most dictators do, in hopes to keep them from getting any funny ideas. I don't think a bag of cash would be very persuasive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sending in some CIA assets with blank U.S. passports and a few duffel bags full of cash to court North Korean brass into a coup is our only semi realistic option for ousting Kim from power without a full scale war. I can't imagine the guy commands much loyalty and rules by fear. Enough money can buy courage. |
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Since Seoul in not in Illinois, and you apparently do not live there, perhaps you should not be so willing to to "sacrifice" it. Maybe if you were willing to sacrifice your town, I might find this to be a little more compelling. View Quote |
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Those generals have been around for a long time and were loyal to his father as well. You bet Kim pays the guys around him extremely well, like most dictators do, in hopes to keep them from getting any funny ideas. I don't think a bag of cash would be very persuasive. View Quote |
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You are indeed slow. Californians are commies. Who cares if 50 electoral college votes aren't automatically going to the left anymore? California probably sympathizes with the Norks so they're perfect for each other. View Quote |
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I've wondered that too. How much response time is lost, while figuring out what's going on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When NK (or anyone) launches a 'test' ICBM, how does the US know it's a test at the time of launch? Is there an international memo sent out for all other countries to not attack, because it's 'only a test of our emergency attack system'? |
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You are indeed slow. Californians are commies. Who cares if 50 electoral college votes aren't automatically going to the left anymore? California probably sympathizes with the Norks so they're perfect for each other. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Los Angeles is going to have to take one for the team. Not that they are on my team. Never advocate death among any American, also there are far more good Americans in California than you think. |
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Perhaps you should move to NK if you actually want your fellow countrymen killed by a foreign bomb. They may be assholes but they are our assholes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You are indeed slow. Californians are commies. Who cares if 50 electoral college votes aren't automatically going to the left anymore? California probably sympathizes with the Norks so they're perfect for each other. |
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As much as I can't stand Kommiefornia not even I would make that remark. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Can't we wait until they hit Los Angeles first? PLEEEZE????? Innocent U.S. citizens killed by the millions. Go masturbate some place else! Your American card should be revoked. There are at least a dozen American citizens left in Los Angeles. Think of them. Uncool..... ETA: I wonder how many of their "failed" tests are a result of successful tests of some of our not known about by the public anti missile systems. |
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The best Korea is just calling for take out for the little fat one.
They will keep pushing until someone does something stupid from one of their test Then their shit will get pushed in. ICBM's are not toys to be playing with in my book. Happy 4th everyone!!!! |
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Wow this thread is full of fuckery.
If you want California to get nuked then why don't you go switch sides and move to NK. You saw what they did to the last American that came out of there. |
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Let me make sure I understand you guys......you are advocating for a hostile foreign state to attack American soil and kill millions of United States citizens...so that it may justify a broader military response? Do I have that right? Just trying to clarify because I am slow some times...you think it would be an acceptable pawn to give up to win the long game. (And you are saying this on the 4th of July) View Quote |
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I wonder if we could retrofit a pamphlet drop in place of the warhead in a Trident II?
Launch one and have it pop over Pyongyang with thousands of pamphlets reading "If you do not have a new government in 4 hours, nothing will remain alive in your country by the fifth hour. Please present the head of Lil Kim at the DMZ. Be advised, if you move anything bigger than a Jeep or launch any projectile more dangerous than a snowball, we will consider this a refusal to cooperate and switch to the punishment stage." No assassination attempt. No false narrative. Just give the generals a few hours to off the evil weeble wobble. |
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I'm more concerned about Russia and China axis. Fuck NK, China and Russia has more nukes combined than anyone.
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And use their asses for runway lights.
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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.
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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.
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Already heard them talk about it on Fox today. That's why you don't promise stupid shit. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The MSM is going to love that little tidbit.
That's why you don't promise stupid shit. |
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Accepting has nothing to do with it. All I care about is reality. If we fire nukes at NK or if they fire them at us, a lot of innocents are going to die and that is the way it is. That being said, if a city was going to get hit and you had to pick one, which would you pick? |
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People who say that shit are fucking sick. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You are indeed slow. Californians are commies. Who cares if 50 electoral college votes aren't automatically going to the left anymore? California probably sympathizes with the Norks so they're perfect for each other. |
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I've wondered that too. How much response time is lost, while figuring out what's going on? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When NK (or anyone) launches a 'test' ICBM, how does the US know it's a test at the time of launch? Is there an international memo sent out for all other countries to not attack, because it's 'only a test of our emergency attack system'? The real rocket scientists think that the high lofting trajectories used for the IRBM and ICBM tests is intended to make sure no stage flies far enough to be considered a warhead launch threat by the US. Which would imply that should NK make a really long range test out to the Pacific well beyond 132 deg east, they would announce it in advance like the space launches. They should know that if they make a space launch or a real ICBM trajectory shot without annuncing it as a test in advance, they do run the risk of getting it shot down as a hostile missile launch. |
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So it is ok to kill millions of innocents? Most of those people never had a say in what their government did. The people in LA have more to do with the situation NK is in than they did. (Note that I am not advocating nuking anyone) View Quote How many time have we talked about the SS 'just following orders'? Those within the city limits of Pyongyang know damn well what they are involved in. It's the 21 million North Koreans in the rural areas (in the untouchable castes) that I feel bad for. I recognize NK as an existential threat....but I'm not ever going to be cool with them killing Americans (hippies included) regardless of what it justifies to Congress. |
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While I can't prove it, I suspect NK obtains significant benefit from selling/bartering nuke/missile technology to other countries including, but not limited to, Iran and Pakistan. I believe it has been shown that they trade technology back and forth, as advancements allow. It's ultimately to the benefit of Red China to have NK as a buffer state, as well as having them on-call as a source of harassment to the US and other nations that are in the area. The ChiComs are NK's biggest trading partners, by far, at least in non-military, overt sales. That being the case, if Red China sneezes, NK gets a cold. Given the very great reaction to the tsunami/Jap reactor disaster not long ago, the idea of hitting NK in a pre-emptive strike with multiple nukes would raise an incredible reaction in SK, Japan, and anywhere downwind where any fallout could settle. The NORKs have had decades in which to tunnel and in which to hide their weapons in relatively secure areas It's a tough problem. I don't have the answer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I can't for the life of me see what Kim hopes to accomplish with all this premature provocation and posturing. The very best he can hope for is to preserve the status quo, which he would have had anyway if he'd simply STFU. And at worst he'll end up with a lapful of U.S. conventional, or possibly nuclear weapons. Surely he's smart enough to realize that there's no happy ending to the course he seems intent on setting for NK's international relations. It's ultimately to the benefit of Red China to have NK as a buffer state, as well as having them on-call as a source of harassment to the US and other nations that are in the area. The ChiComs are NK's biggest trading partners, by far, at least in non-military, overt sales. That being the case, if Red China sneezes, NK gets a cold. Given the very great reaction to the tsunami/Jap reactor disaster not long ago, the idea of hitting NK in a pre-emptive strike with multiple nukes would raise an incredible reaction in SK, Japan, and anywhere downwind where any fallout could settle. The NORKs have had decades in which to tunnel and in which to hide their weapons in relatively secure areas It's a tough problem. I don't have the answer. |
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Those generals have been around for a long time and were loyal to his father as well. You bet Kim pays the guys around him extremely well, like most dictators do, in hopes to keep them from getting any funny ideas. I don't think a bag of cash would be very persuasive. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Sending in some CIA assets with blank U.S. passports and a few duffel bags full of cash to court North Korean brass into a coup is our only semi realistic option for ousting Kim from power without a full scale war. I can't imagine the guy commands much loyalty and rules by fear. Enough money can buy courage. It would be tough to do, we may be doing it unsuccessfully already. |
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Everyone who has been posting stupid shit, please stop. |
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So it is ok to kill millions of innocents? Most of those people never had a say in what their government did. The people in LA have more to do with the situation NK is in than they did. (Note that I am not advocating nuking anyone) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Accepting has nothing to do with it. All I care about is reality. If we fire nukes at NK or if they fire them at us, a lot of innocents are going to die and that is the way it is. That being said, if a city was going to get hit and you had to pick one, which would you pick? Nationalism is a team sport. Sometimes you've gotta kill the other team's benchwarmers along with their strikers. If the choice was to kill every other human being on earth, or to suffer the destruction of Tennessee, I'd be OK with the former and do anything to prevent the latter. If the choice were to kill every non-American in order to save America, the same is true. And we should not be squeamish about it. Every human born more than 140 years ago has died. Every human alive today will die. We're not changing nature, we're just working around scheduling conflicts. |
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Since Seoul in not in Illinois, and you apparently do not live there, perhaps you should not be so willing to to "sacrifice" it. Maybe if you were willing to sacrifice your town, I might find this to be a little more compelling. View Quote Who the Hell thought it was a good idea to just keep growing Seoul all this time and therefore leaving SK's throat exposed? I guess it doesn't matter much when you rely on us for your well being and national security. Now I'm just a poor dumb Hillbilly but the strategy as it has been played is suicidal for the good guys. And inevitably, here we are with no good options......AGAIN. FUCK. |
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