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Earlier this year, state legislators and Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo approved a law to ban “3D-printed guns.” Manufactured with high-tech plastic, 3D guns can evade metal detectors and also have been called ghost guns. But those have been far less of problem than the “80 percent” guns, King said.
This part really bothers me. How can the face of any firearms group actually believe that guns are out there that can evade metal detectors? I get some random uninformed person falling for that, but ANYONE who remotely understands how FIREarms work, would know that this is inaccurate. |
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The NRA is dead. If I could get the money back for my life membership I would.
Join the GOA. |
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It's funny looking back at archived threads from years ago and seeing "Vote Tom King for NRA BOD" sig lines, etc.
We never learn. |
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Why would you enforce existing laws when you can make new ones? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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After I wrote to both the state and national NRA with a question, and didn't even receive a condescending response from either organization like I get from politicians, I too allowed my membership of decades lapse. I refuse to pay an organization to ignore me...I can be ignored for free in plenty of places.
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Unreal. This is the sort of comment I'd expect from an anti-gun liberal. I rejoined NYSRPA last year to support them in their SCOTUS case against NYC. I'm up for renewal but I won't be doing that now, as there is no way I can overlook this nonsense. So out of touch. He's a member here by the way, but probably not active. View Quote |
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[TBK] You are all banned[/TBK]
How do we remove that fucker from the board? TXL |
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I paid too much for my Life Membership. I wish I had the $300 back, I'd put it to use lighting my cigars.
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Well the main one was @'d like 15 times on the 1st page
Probably would have shown up anyway, but people did call him. |
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Yeah, just the minor difference here where this guy is interviewed by a major national newspaper and offers his words of wisdom...nothing to see here at all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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As I previously mentioned we had 3 different NRA BoD Members on this site. Did everything they say represent the NRA? No, only an idiot would think that. |
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I read NRA and New York and stopped. The jokes tell themselves.
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The increasingly-powerful and wealthy coalition of leftist anti-2A groups have determined that destroying the NRA is a required prerequisite to destroying the 2A altogether. They have determined that the world's most powerful gun rights group by far must be destroyed before they can remove the Second Amendment. So they are waging a highly-organized and successful war against it.
We should help them do that, right? amirite? and after that let's go concern ourselves with securing Syria's border next beyond that is a meeting to determine if we should support Trump or help our enemies overthrow him Every day I'm amazed at the Left's amazing success and the amount of shills and vast amount of fools and cowards among our side. The conservative, nationalist right will not win in the long-run, because we do not have the collective intelligence to do so. |
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NRA Board Member and head of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Tom King, speaking out against our ability to legally make firearms for our personal collections and use. “These '80 percent' guns are providing a way for prohibited people to buy a firearm,” Tom King of the NYSRPA said https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/in-the-news/anna-m-kaplan/nys-legislation-would-ban-untraceable-ghost-guns The head of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association said the sale of ghost guns is a growing problem. “These '80 percent' guns are providing a way for prohibited people to buy a firearm,” Tom King of the NYSRPA said, referring to people who don’t have a gun permit or are otherwise prohibited from possessing a gun. He said self-assembled guns provide a way for competition shooters to make a custom-fitted firearm. Such weapons should have serial numbers and be registered — and any new legislation should consider such a provision, he said. But it appears increasingly, King said, people trying to evade the law are the ones buying and selling self-assembled weapons. “It appears what was meant to be something for competitive shooters and serious shooters to build their own unique firearm may be turning into a criminal enterprise,” King said. View Quote Never will you see me step one foot in these commie states |
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The increasingly-powerful and wealthy coalition of leftist anti-2A groups have determined that destroying the NRA is a required prerequisite to destroying the 2A altogether. They have determined that the world's most powerful gun rights group by far must be destroyed before they can remove the Second Amendment. and so they are waging a highly-organized and successful war against it. We should help them do that, right? amirite? and after that let's go concern ourselves with securing Syria's border next beyond that is a meeting to determine if we should support Trump or help our enemies overthrow him Every day I'm amazed at the Left's amazing success and the amount of shills and vast amount of fools and cowards among our side. The conservative, nationalist right will not win in the long-run, because we do not have the collective intelligence to do so. View Quote |
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Quoted: We, gun owners, are not in decline. NRA membership maybe, due to their own choices in leadership. This being an example of one of those bad choices. View Quote That place ain't for our rights. They're in it for themselves. Like Wayne and his closet's full of high dollar suits |
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The increasingly-powerful and wealthy coalition of leftist anti-2A groups have determined that destroying the NRA is a required prerequisite to destroying the 2A altogether. They have determined that the world's most powerful gun rights group by far must be destroyed before they can remove the Second Amendment. So they are waging a highly-organized and successful war against it. We should help them do that, right? amirite? and after that let's go concern ourselves with securing Syria's border next beyond that is a meeting to determine if we should support Trump or help our enemies overthrow him Every day I'm amazed at the Left's amazing success and the amount of shills and vast amount of fools and cowards among our side. The conservative, nationalist right will not win in the long-run, because we do not have the collective intelligence to do so. View Quote |
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NRA Board Member and head of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Tom King, speaking out against our ability to legally make firearms for our personal collections and use. "These '80 percent' guns are providing a way for prohibited people to buy a firearm," Tom King of the NYSRPA said https://www.nysenate.gov/newsroom/in-the-news/anna-m-kaplan/nys-legislation-would-ban-untraceable-ghost-guns The head of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association said the sale of ghost guns is a growing problem. "These '80 percent' guns are providing a way for prohibited people to buy a firearm," Tom King of the NYSRPA said, referring to people who don't have a gun permit or are otherwise prohibited from possessing a gun. He said self-assembled guns provide a way for competition shooters to make a custom-fitted firearm. Such weapons should have serial numbers and be registered and any new legislation should consider such a provision, he said. But it appears increasingly, King said, people trying to evade the law are the ones buying and selling self-assembled weapons. "It appears what was meant to be something for competitive shooters and serious shooters to build their own unique firearm may be turning into a criminal enterprise," King said. View Quote |
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This is the correct response. The NRA is larger than he is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The NRA is a shitshow @Swire Insisting that the NRA get a handle on problem members is one thing ... Trying to literally end the whole organization is akin to nuking your city because you've got a spider in your house; or destroying the entire Republican Party because you don't like a few members or a few policies. Our opponents and enemies love our foolish, irrational, uncoordinated, and unintelligent behavior. |
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The increasingly-powerful and wealthy coalition of leftist anti-2A groups have determined that destroying the NRA is a required prerequisite to destroying the 2A altogether. They have determined that the world's most powerful gun rights group by far must be destroyed before they can remove the Second Amendment. So they are waging a highly-organized and successful war against it. We should help them do that, right? amirite? and after that let's go concern ourselves with securing Syria's border next beyond that is a meeting to determine if we should support Trump or help our enemies overthrow him Every day I'm amazed at the Left's amazing success and the amount of shills and vast amount of fools and cowards among our side. The conservative, nationalist right will not win in the long-run, because we do not have the collective intelligence to do so. View Quote |
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Quoted: This is what it looks like when someone fails to understand that the NRA leadership has been infiltrated by anti-2A leftists for the last 80 years at a minimum. "If only Stalin knew" is a phrase everyone here NEEDS to know and understand. Also see "Fabian Society" and pay close attention to their coat of arms. View Quote The many decades of continuous and intense efforts by hundreds of NRA lobbyists spending large amounts of our money in local, state, and federal action to ensure our rights are successfully protected disprove your notions. Have there been some Elmer Fudd's like the one described ITT make their way into the NRA thinking their 'middle of the road' approach is best - certainly, because many NRA supporters are also Fudds themselves. Has the NRA been infiltrated by leftists to any real degree? Nope. ps. This is why it -is- a good idea to talk about fuddery and why it's bad overall, why it leads to long-term damage to gun rights, and why it should be outed and shunned. |
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If 'the NRA leadership had been infiltrated by anti-2A leftists for the last 80 years at a minimum' then you would not have the strongest firearm rights of any country on the planet by far. The many decades of continuous and intense efforts by hundreds of NRA lobbyists spending large amounts of our money in local, state, and federal action to ensure our rights are successfully protected disprove your notions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: This is what it looks like when someone fails to understand that the NRA leadership has been infiltrated by anti-2A leftists for the last 80 years at a minimum. "If only Stalin knew" is a phrase everyone here NEEDS to know and understand. Also see "Fabian Society" and pay close attention to their coat of arms. The many decades of continuous and intense efforts by hundreds of NRA lobbyists spending large amounts of our money in local, state, and federal action to ensure our rights are successfully protected disprove your notions. Their job has been to ensure gun banners don't move so quickly there is a strong backlash. That is the extent of the service they perform, and it does not protect gun rights in the long run. |
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NRA Board Member and New York State Rifle & Pistol Association Head Wants End to Homemade Guns
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Quoted: After I wrote to both the state and national NRA with a question, and didn't even receive a condescending response from either organization like I get from politicians, I too allowed my membership of decades lapse. I refuse to pay an organization to ignore me...I can be ignored for free in plenty of places. View Quote If the only thing that can save our god given rights is a profit driven group of hucksters like the NRA we are done anyway. I"ll gladly resume donating whey they clean out LaPew and co and stop negotiating rights away. The NRA has done a lot of good over the years but the idea that they are not a group based on compromise is not based in reality. But LaPew will drag the entire group down with him if that is what it takes and I think his decades of malfeasance is going to destroy the group in any event. |
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They have never replied to any correspondence I've sent them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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After I wrote to both the state and national NRA with a question, and didn't even receive a condescending response from either organization like I get from politicians, I too allowed my membership of decades lapse. I refuse to pay an organization to ignore me...I can be ignored for free in plenty of places. |
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Earlier this year, state legislators and Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo approved a law to ban “3D-printed guns.” Manufactured with high-tech plastic, 3D guns can evade metal detectors and also have been called ghost guns. But those have been far less of problem than the “80 percent” guns, King said. This part really bothers me. How can the face of any firearms group actually believe that guns are out there that can evade metal detectors? I get some random uninformed person falling for that, but ANYONE who remotely understands how FIREarms work, would know that this is inaccurate. View Quote |
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Why don't we all write New York Rifle and Pistol to get a statement?
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The Barrett M82 was the result of a professional photographer building a new rifle in his garage with no formal training or past experience in firearms.
It’s always interesting to learn what inspired a successful entrepreneur. For Ronnie Barrett, the founder and CEO of Barrett, it was a river patrol boat in 1982 that featured two Browning .50-caliber machine guns. At that time, Barrett was a professional photographer whose assignment was to do a photo shoot of the boat to promote a particular firearms company.
While busy snapping a series of photographs, Barrett was wowed by the amazing Browning Ma Deuce. He wondered to himself if the incredible .50-caliber cartridge could be fired from a rifle; maybe one operated from the shooter’s shoulder. He decided to find out. With no manufacturing or engineering experience, Barrett hand-drew his idea for a .50-caliber, semi-automatic rifle in three-dimension to show how the rifle should function. There is much more to the story, but the results of his creative mind, artistic drawings and “can do attitude” led to the Barrett .50-caliber rifle that morphed into the Model 82A1 – M107. View Quote |
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The increasingly-powerful and wealthy coalition of leftist anti-2A groups have determined that destroying the NRA is a required prerequisite to destroying the 2A altogether. They have determined that the world's most powerful gun rights group by far must be destroyed before they can remove the Second Amendment. So they are waging a highly-organized and successful war against it. We should help them do that, right? amirite? and after that let's go concern ourselves with securing Syria's border next beyond that is a meeting to determine if we should support Trump or help our enemies overthrow him Every day I'm amazed at the Left's amazing success and the amount of shills and vast amount of fools and cowards among our side. The conservative, nationalist right will not win in the long-run, because we do not have the collective intelligence to do so. View Quote The NRA leadership and executive board failed to follow the four rules and shot themselves in their collective ass. And when that was pointed out to them (they already knew it but thought everyone was too fucking stupid to notice) they totally denied it. And all their suck buddies tried to claim that it was the anti gunners that actually shot them in the ass and we were the assholes for actually thinking a GOD like WLP would do such a thing. I'm all for supporting the NRA but WILL NOT until WLP and his minions are gone. |
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Most of the NRAs efforts have been to promote a form of "gunowner approved" gun control.
If the NRA ever got off it's ass we could get rid of 99% of gunlaws. |
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Don't know if this was posted previously, didn't see it on page 8, but here's a statement from the NYSRPA facebook page. Take it for what it's worth.
Ladies and Gentlemen, There’s been an article written chastising me for supposedly agreeing with NYS Legislators in their bid to ban 80% lower receivers. That article is wrong.To be clear: I do not support the banning of 80% lowers or any other firearm. Never have. Never will. The quotes in question came from a thirty-minute Newsday interview that I conducted more than a month ago. Of course, only a couple of sentences were used from that 30 minute conversation. I referenced a case in New York State where someone was illegally manufacturing, assembling and selling firearms – including full autos. As you know, those are illegal acts. I do not condone anyone intentionally breaking the law as I believe that only helps our opposition. So, let me set the record straight. I oppose all registration and believe all lawful gun owners have the right to own the firearm of his or her choice whenever and where ever they choose. I believe ours is a country based on common law and the way to challenge laws we consider unconstitutional is in the voting booths and the courts, as we are doing in our U.S. Supreme Court case NYSRPA v. NYC and our Second Circuit Court of Appeals Case NYSRPA v. Beach, Cuomo et.al. We will win the battle! In closing I would like to thank those who gave me the benefit of the doubt and called me for an explanation. I’ve spent twenty years fighting for your rights and I’m not going to throw those years away by kicking the Second Amendment under the bus at this late date. Thank you for taking the time to read this missive. Tom King NYSRPA |
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My NRA membership got revoked several months ago for non payment on my "Easy Pay Life" membership. That place ain't for our rights. They're in it for themselves. Like Wayne and his closet's full of high dollar suits View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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"The quotes in question came from a thirty-minute Newsday interview that I conducted more than a month ago. Of course, only a couple of sentences were used from that 30 minute conversation."
Ohhhhhhh, so he's just an idiot; that makes it all better Or does he just assume we're idiots? I don't suppose he has a complete transcript supporting his claim? Yeah, of course not. You think he "opposes all registration" when it comes to MGs as well? |
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Lol. More than a month ago. Yet he only issues a statement “correcting” what he said when folks started calling him out for it.
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Don't know if this was posted previously, didn't see it on page 8, but here's a statement from the NYSRPA facebook page. Take it for what it's worth. Ladies and Gentlemen, There’s been an article written chastising me for supposedly agreeing with NYS Legislators in their bid to ban 80% lower receivers. That article is wrong.To be clear: I do not support the banning of 80% lowers or any other firearm. Never have. Never will. The quotes in question came from a thirty-minute Newsday interview that I conducted more than a month ago. Of course, only a couple of sentences were used from that 30 minute conversation. I referenced a case in New York State where someone was illegally manufacturing, assembling and selling firearms – including full autos. As you know, those are illegal acts. I do not condone anyone intentionally breaking the law as I believe that only helps our opposition. So, let me set the record straight. I oppose all registration and believe all lawful gun owners have the right to own the firearm of his or her choice whenever and where ever they choose. I believe ours is a country based on common law and the way to challenge laws we consider unconstitutional is in the voting booths and the courts, as we are doing in our U.S. Supreme Court case NYSRPA v. NYC and our Second Circuit Court of Appeals Case NYSRPA v. Beach, Cuomo et.al. We will win the battle! In closing I would like to thank those who gave me the benefit of the doubt and called me for an explanation. I’ve spent twenty years fighting for your rights and I’m not going to throw those years away by kicking the Second Amendment under the bus at this late date. Thank you for taking the time to read this missive. Tom King NYSRPA View Quote 1. What part of peacefully exercising "the Right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" creates an "illegal act"??? 2. How can you say "I oppose all registration and believe all lawful gun owners have the right to own the firearm of his or her choice whenever and where ever they choose" but still support the NFA '34 and the GCA '68??? 3. How can you support any gun law without "kicking the Second Amendment under the bus"??? You speak with a forked tongue, Tom King. If you had even a SPECK of honor, you would resign immediately. |
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"Dear Mr. Dicknutz
Tom King does not support the ban on 80% receivers. He was misquoted and his comments were taken out of context. Don't believe everything you see and read in the liberal media and online. Brenda NYSRPA Office" The response I got from my email. |
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Don't know if this was posted previously, didn't see it on page 8, but here's a statement from the NYSRPA facebook page. Take it for what it's worth. Ladies and Gentlemen, There’s been an article written chastising me for supposedly agreeing with NYS Legislators in their bid to ban 80% lower receivers. That article is wrong.To be clear: I do not support the banning of 80% lowers or any other firearm. Never have. Never will. The quotes in question came from a thirty-minute Newsday interview that I conducted more than a month ago. Of course, only a couple of sentences were used from that 30 minute conversation. I referenced a case in New York State where someone was illegally manufacturing, assembling and selling firearms – including full autos. As you know, those are illegal acts. I do not condone anyone intentionally breaking the law as I believe that only helps our opposition. So, let me set the record straight. I oppose all registration and believe all lawful gun owners have the right to own the firearm of his or her choice whenever and where ever they choose. I believe ours is a country based on common law and the way to challenge laws we consider unconstitutional is in the voting booths and the courts, as we are doing in our U.S. Supreme Court case NYSRPA v. NYC and our Second Circuit Court of Appeals Case NYSRPA v. Beach, Cuomo et.al. We will win the battle! In closing I would like to thank those who gave me the benefit of the doubt and called me for an explanation. I’ve spent twenty years fighting for your rights and I’m not going to throw those years away by kicking the Second Amendment under the bus at this late date. Thank you for taking the time to read this missive. Tom King NYSRPA View Quote |
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Don't know if this was posted previously, didn't see it on page 8, but here's a statement from the NYSRPA facebook page. Take it for what it's worth. Ladies and Gentlemen, There's been an article written chastising me for supposedly agreeing with NYS Legislators in their bid to ban 80% lower receivers. That article is wrong.To be clear: I do not support the banning of 80% lowers or any other firearm. Never have. Never will. The quotes in question came from a thirty-minute Newsday interview that I conducted more than a month ago. Of course, only a couple of sentences were used from that 30 minute conversation. I referenced a case in New York State where someone was illegally manufacturing, assembling and selling firearms including full autos. As you know, those are illegal acts. I do not condone anyone intentionally breaking the law as I believe that only helps our opposition. So, let me set the record straight. I oppose all registration and believe all lawful gun owners have the right to own the firearm of his or her choice whenever and where ever they choose. I believe ours is a country based on common law and the way to challenge laws we consider unconstitutional is in the voting booths and the courts, as we are doing in our U.S. Supreme Court case NYSRPA v. NYC and our Second Circuit Court of Appeals Case NYSRPA v. Beach, Cuomo et.al. We will win the battle! In closing I would like to thank those who gave me the benefit of the doubt and called me for an explanation. I've spent twenty years fighting for your rights and I'm not going to throw those years away by kicking the Second Amendment under the bus at this late date. Thank you for taking the time to read this missive. Tom King NYSRPA |
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