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Posted: 12/14/2015 6:59:16 PM EST
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We used fire hoses as well as firearms.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:06:21 PM EST
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I just remembered a time when I was actually at a repel borders incident. (1995-96' time frame) I was stationed on USS Simon Lake AS-33 in LaMaddellena Italy.
Some green peace type assholes wanted to try speed up to the ship In small craft and try to splash red paint up on our hull. Long story short, they didn't get close enough to spray them down with the 2.5" hoses but I know the Italian Carabinieri caught them at some point. I heard the Carabinieri beat their asses. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:11:48 PM EST
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:14:49 PM EST
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They repel boarders with a steam hose from the boiler. Imagine how awesome that would be from Nimitz?  Depends upon what side of the steam system you are using. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:16:24 PM EST
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Depends upon what side of the steam system you are using. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They repel boarders with a steam hose from the boiler. Imagine how awesome that would be from Nimitz? Depends upon what side of the steam system you are using. 
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:25:13 PM EST
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I wondered. Maybe a ship becomes disabled and separated from its convoy/fleet, or at port in a potentially hostile area. I bet they don't issue sabers anymore though.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yes they do. I left in 2010 and at least back then they were called SRF (ship's reaction force) and BRF (back up reaction force). The duty section's IET (in port emergency team) also takes part in their drills. The Navy renames everything after a few years, so I'm assuming they renamed that too. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I wondered. Maybe a ship becomes disabled and separated from its convoy/fleet, or at port in a potentially hostile area. I bet they don't issue sabers anymore though. Never did. Officers have to buy their own swords. Cutlasses are pretty much gone, although Chiefs can buy them if they want to. Officer's swords are only useful for opening champagne bottles and cutting cakes. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:42:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryScrew the cutlasses, the Navy should bring back the tropicals. Nothing is scarier than an angry Chief showing of his old man knees. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 7:46:12 PM EST
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They had a "repel boarders" drill. Do any Navy vessels still do any similar type if drill? If not when did the drills stop? They didn't stop doing them. They just changed the names. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 8:10:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which totally blows  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We do have "security alerts" designed to "repel boarders" but the days of guys swinging from ropes on the yardarms with cutlasses is long gone. Which totally blows |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 8:16:56 PM EST
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Screw the cutlasses, the Navy should bring back the tropicals. Nothing is scarier than an angry Chief showing of his old man knees. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Screw the cutlasses, the Navy should bring back the tropicals. Nothing is scarier than an angry Chief showing of his old man knees. I have seen a retired Master Gunnery Sgt. wearing UDT shorts, I ain't scared of nothing now. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 8:30:15 PM EST
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We do have "security alerts" designed to "repel boarders" but the days of guys swinging from ropes on the yardarms with cutlasses is long gone. Too bad Yes, yes. Damn shame, this. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 8:53:33 PM EST
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As someone that has PERSONALLY manned the fighting tops of Old Ironsides I have always wondered it the tars serving aboard her today are qualified with boarding pikes, cutlasses and can swing on lines off of the yardarms.
Don't believe I manned the 'tops on Old Ironsides? 
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Posted: 12/14/2015 8:55:58 PM EST
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We repelled boarders on Greenpeace in Norfolk in '93. Fire hoses and sandbags were deployed. Topside watch drew his .45 and a mag, but didn't load. Had a guy with an M-14 below decks at the weapon's shipping hatch ready to roll.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 9:02:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As someone that has PERSONALLY manned the fighting tops of Old Ironsides I have always wondered it the tars serving aboard her today are qualified with boarding pikes, cutlasses and can swing on lines off of the yardarms. Don't believe I manned the 'tops on Old Ironsides? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 9:31:42 PM EST
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I've always wondered if Taffy 3 at Samar in WW2 could have boarded a Japanese cruiser. The Johnston and Samuel B Roberts charged headlong towards overwhelming odds anyway, once their ships were disabled did they even remotely have the equipment to board an enemy warship? The Japanese superstructures were pretty trashed from 5" shells, not sure how fast their crew would be able to respond.
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Posted: 12/14/2015 9:55:26 PM EST
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As someone that has PERSONALLY manned the fighting tops of Old Ironsides I have always wondered it the tars serving aboard her today are qualified with boarding pikes, cutlasses and can swing on lines off of the yardarms. Don't believe I manned the 'tops on Old Ironsides? I can picture your little biddy tarry hands. Funny I was just thinking about tarry standing lines and slushed running lines the other day. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 9:56:05 PM EST
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We repelled boarders on Greenpeace in Norfolk in '93. Fire hoses and sandbags were deployed. Topside watch drew his .45 and a mag, but didn't load. Had a guy with an M-14 below decks at the weapon's shipping hatch ready to roll. I heard something about some up bubble being called for on the fair weather planes during this incident... ;) |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 10:03:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: http://terminallance.com/wp-content/uploads/comics/2014-01-17-Strip_302_NCO_Sword_web.gif There's a TL for that Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I need a cutlass. http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BP8JWR/fight-scene-the-sand-pebbles-1966-BP8JWR.jpg http://terminallance.com/wp-content/uploads/comics/2014-01-17-Strip_302_NCO_Sword_web.gif There's a TL for that Can you imagine how cool it would be to take down a bad guy with a sword today? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 10:10:06 PM EST
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I've always wondered if Taffy 3 at Samar in WW2 could have boarded a Japanese cruiser. The Johnston and Samuel B Roberts charged headlong towards overwhelming odds anyway, once their ships were disabled did they even remotely have the equipment to board an enemy warship? The Japanese superstructures were pretty trashed from 5" shells, not sure how fast their crew would be able to respond. For sake of argument, say they did get through and either rammed the cruiser or somehow muckled alongside and swarmed aboard. For one thing they'd be horribly outnumbered but probably not too out gunned as the average Japanese sailor wasn't issued a weapon. It would have been a handful of US sailors armed with whatever they could grab against Japanese sailors similarly armed. What a fuckin' brawl that would have been! I doubt they'd have taken control of a cruiser but you can bet your ass that the bridge would have to report to the admiral they had been boarded and it was touch and go. They may have very well made the Japanese pack it in earlier and break off. Good read: Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors. ETA I just looked it up. Roberts had a crew of about 215 and if they could have gotten 175 guys on board, a cruiser had a compliment of about 900 so it isn't likely they would have fared very well. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 10:13:19 PM EST
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Quoted: They had a "repel boarders" drill. Do any Navy vessels still do any similar type if drill? If not when did the drills stop? we did one on my submarine in 92. Not sure if they still do them. |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 10:35:05 PM EST
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we did one on my submarine in 92. Not sure if they still do them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They had a "repel boarders" drill. Do any Navy vessels still do any similar type if drill? If not when did the drills stop? we did one on my submarine in 92. Not sure if they still do them. Were you underway at the time? |
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Posted: 12/14/2015 10:51:38 PM EST
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Someone call?
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Posted: 12/14/2015 11:20:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Were you underway at the time? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They had a "repel boarders" drill. Do any Navy vessels still do any similar type if drill? If not when did the drills stop? we did one on my submarine in 92. Not sure if they still do them. Were you underway at the time? nah in port it was due to greenpeace grumbling about nukes, so our captain had us do it. Most fun I ever had with a drill. Got to pull up all the deckplates in the upper level of the machinery room where I stood watch and crouch near the doors with the biggest wrench I could find. good times eta: love that story about Old Ironsides, awesome! |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 12:06:18 AM EST
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As someone that has PERSONALLY manned the fighting tops of Old Ironsides I have always wondered it the tars serving aboard her today are qualified with boarding pikes, cutlasses and can swing on lines off of the yardarms. Don't believe I manned the 'tops on Old Ironsides? Ha! Thank you for that one. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 12:23:29 AM EST
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Yes they do. I left in 2010 and at least back then they were called SRF (ship's reaction force) and BRF (back up reaction force). The duty section's IET (in port emergency team) also takes part in their drills. You forgot the ASF. 
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Posted: 12/15/2015 12:25:55 AM EST
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They repel boarders with a steam hose from the boiler. Imagine how awesome that would be from Nimitz? They hook up a hose from the reactor and spray them down with pure unadulterated radiation.
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Posted: 12/15/2015 12:29:30 AM EST
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As someone that has PERSONALLY manned the fighting tops of Old Ironsides I have always wondered it the tars serving aboard her today are qualified with boarding pikes, cutlasses and can swing on lines off of the yardarms. Don't believe I manned the 'tops on Old Ironsides? lol. Saw that when you posted it in another thread long ago. Did you guys use the lubber's hole or go out and around on the futtock shrouds? |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 12:34:15 AM EST
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My great grandpa was a China Sailor. He died in '89 do I never got to ask him about it.
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Posted: 12/15/2015 12:51:59 AM EST
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DamascasKnifemaker Off Topic: We took on fuel from the Wabash during an UNREP. At breakaway they played a locomotive recording. Middle of the big blue ocean, nothing as far as I could see but the two ships. I can still hear that train building up steam. That was l...o....n...g ago!
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Posted: 12/15/2015 1:27:33 AM EST
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The Navy did security drills in-port and underway when I was aboard the Belleau Wood, LHA-3. I used to think they were funny, an Infantry Company of Marines, several supporting arms, and a Composite Marine Wing aboard and they are drilling to repel boarders with a handful of sailors with M-14's.
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Posted: 12/15/2015 1:32:26 AM EST
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A guy I worked with was on a landing craft during the Vietnam war. He said they had repel boards drills. He was a radio man and had a cutlass and a 1911 to use just in case.
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Posted: 12/15/2015 1:45:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They repel boarders with a steam hose from the boiler. Imagine how awesome that would be from Nimitz? |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 1:58:03 AM EST
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They had a "repel boarders" drill. Do any Navy vessels still do any similar type if drill? If not when did the drills stop? lol we do them on the Merchant Marine side as well. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 1:59:49 AM EST
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Someone call? He is a picture of me shooting an FA Lewis Gun Because of your avatar and Sand Pebbles 
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Posted: 12/15/2015 2:02:14 AM EST
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I've always wondered if Taffy 3 at Samar in WW2 could have boarded a Japanese cruiser. The Johnston and Samuel B Roberts charged headlong towards overwhelming odds anyway, once their ships were disabled did they even remotely have the equipment to board an enemy warship? The Japanese superstructures were pretty trashed from 5" shells, not sure how fast their crew would be able to respond. Underway boarding can be tricky, much less between two shot up warships at 25+knots with no one trained or practiced in it and without any specialized equipment. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 4:34:34 AM EST
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Great movie!
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Posted: 12/15/2015 4:46:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol we do them on the Merchant Marine side as well. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They had a "repel boarders" drill. Do any Navy vessels still do any similar type if drill? If not when did the drills stop? lol we do them on the Merchant Marine side as well. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 5:12:19 AM EST
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Screw the cutlasses, the Navy should bring back the tropicals. Nothing is scarier than an angry Chief showing of his old man knees. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Screw the cutlasses, the Navy should bring back the tropicals. Nothing is scarier than an angry Chief showing of his old man knees. I wore Tropical Whites on deployment to Diego Garcia. I just had some summer whites cut off and hemmed before I deployed.
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Posted: 12/15/2015 5:21:46 AM EST
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DamascasKnifemaker Off Topic: We took on fuel from the Wabash during an UNREP. At breakaway they played a locomotive recording. Middle of the big blue ocean, nothing as far as I could see but the two ships. I can still hear that train building up steam. That was l...o....n...g ago! We always played the Wabash Cannonball at break away. I was on the Wabash Feb 83-Feb 88. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 5:29:49 AM EST
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I wore Tropical Whites on deployment to Diego Garcia. I just had some summer whites cut off and hemmed before I deployed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Screw the cutlasses, the Navy should bring back the tropicals. Nothing is scarier than an angry Chief showing of his old man knees. I wore Tropical Whites on deployment to Diego Garcia. I just had some summer whites cut off and hemmed before I deployed. Ha! How much shit did you get? |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 5:36:37 AM EST
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As of when I got out in July of 2013, we where still doing Repel Boarders drills periodically.
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Posted: 12/15/2015 6:28:23 AM EST
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Cutlasses were removed from ships' armouries in 1949. Officers used to be entitled to take their swords into action and wear them for landings during training; I think that was done away with around the same time. When I was stationed on the USS Luiseno (ATF-156) in '64 and '65, we had a dozen brass-handled Model 1860 navy cutlasses in a rack in the athwartships passageway. The PO of the Watch carried a 45, and the Messenger of the Watch carried a cutlass. If you fucked up and got some "extra military instruction" one of the regular tasks was to polish the brass on the cutlasses. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 7:00:37 AM EST
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When the Nimitz was under command of Capt Clexton, he would call for SCA members on board to don their armor and conduct fighter practice when the ship was underway and under Soviet surveillance. ;) That absolutely cannot be true, but it is fucking brilliant and hilarious anyway! 
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Posted: 12/15/2015 7:11:52 AM EST
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When I was stationed on the USS Luiseno (ATF-156) in '64 and '65, we had a dozen brass-handled Model 1860 navy cutlasses in a rack in the athwartships passageway. The PO of the Watch carried a 45, and the Messenger of the Watch carried a cutlass. If you fucked up and got some "extra military instruction" one of the regular tasks was to polish the brass on the cutlasses. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cutlasses were removed from ships' armouries in 1949. Officers used to be entitled to take their swords into action and wear them for landings during training; I think that was done away with around the same time. When I was stationed on the USS Luiseno (ATF-156) in '64 and '65, we had a dozen brass-handled Model 1860 navy cutlasses in a rack in the athwartships passageway. The PO of the Watch carried a 45, and the Messenger of the Watch carried a cutlass. If you fucked up and got some "extra military instruction" one of the regular tasks was to polish the brass on the cutlasses. Yep. Ames pattern 1860 is best cutlass. 
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Posted: 12/15/2015 7:16:08 AM EST
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Late 80's we had a Security Alert Force and Backup Alert Force drills everyday while in port. Also drilled on using 1 1/2" fire hose to repel boarders and we did have low pressure 50 psi steam lances. You guys get to play with all of the cool toys. 
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Posted: 12/15/2015 7:30:06 AM EST
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All the time; nothing better than hitting some Greenpeace hippies with a little high pressure water.
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Posted: 12/15/2015 7:44:24 AM EST
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Underway boarding can be tricky, much less between two shot up warships at 25+knots with no one trained or practiced in it and without any specialized equipment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've always wondered if Taffy 3 at Samar in WW2 could have boarded a Japanese cruiser. The Johnston and Samuel B Roberts charged headlong towards overwhelming odds anyway, once their ships were disabled did they even remotely have the equipment to board an enemy warship? The Japanese superstructures were pretty trashed from 5" shells, not sure how fast their crew would be able to respond. Underway boarding can be tricky, much less between two shot up warships at 25+knots with no one trained or practiced in it and without any specialized equipment. Crews did undergo some training in both boarding and landing (and fighting ashore). Weapons on board would have included rifles (Springfields or Garands, typically), machine pistols (Thompsons), pistols (1911s, maybe revolvers), shotguns, bayonets, BARs, hand grenades, and cutlasses. There would have been more than enough weapons on board to equip the standardlanding party of the time (a couple of squads plus ancillary personnel during that time period). I have doubts that a cruiser could have been taken a prize by those ships, especially as shot-up as they were (taking casualties into account). I'm not sure if Japanese cruisers had naval infantry or anything like that on board (American cruisers all had Marine detachments embarked). There were a couple of boardings during the WWII period. One was the boarding and capture of the blockade runner Odenwald by a boarding party from the light cruiser Omaha (pictures show the party armed with 1911s and Thompsons, although the majority of the boarding party's weapons aren't visible). The boarding party was supplemented with additional personnel from the Omaha and the destroyer Somers to form a prize crew, which dealt with the scuttling charges, got her underway, and brought her into port (even rigging a sail to increase fuel efficiency, as the whole task force was low on fuel; the Somers did the same thing and just barely made it into port). The boarding party and prize crews got prize money, too. The other was the boarding of the U-505 by a boarding party from the destroyer escort Pillsbury, with a second boarding party and prize crew from the escort carrier Guadalcanal coming aboard later. Neither involved shooting, although in the former case an officer did threaten to shoot a German merchant marine officer if he didn't help point out the scuttling chargers and help get the engines running; the U.S. officer put his pistol against the German's head during the incident. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 7:46:02 AM EST
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When I was stationed on the USS Luiseno (ATF-156) in '64 and '65, we had a dozen brass-handled Model 1860 navy cutlasses in a rack in the athwartships passageway. The PO of the Watch carried a 45, and the Messenger of the Watch carried a cutlass. If you fucked up and got some "extra military instruction" one of the regular tasks was to polish the brass on the cutlasses. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cutlasses were removed from ships' armouries in 1949. Officers used to be entitled to take their swords into action and wear them for landings during training; I think that was done away with around the same time. When I was stationed on the USS Luiseno (ATF-156) in '64 and '65, we had a dozen brass-handled Model 1860 navy cutlasses in a rack in the athwartships passageway. The PO of the Watch carried a 45, and the Messenger of the Watch carried a cutlass. If you fucked up and got some "extra military instruction" one of the regular tasks was to polish the brass on the cutlasses. Officially, removed, I suppose. I find it amazing how old some weapons and equipment are that get left behind aboard naval vessels (like BARs and Garands on 1980s warships). I find it interesting that they had cutlasses on board a tugboat in general. |
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Posted: 12/15/2015 7:51:09 AM EST
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1980s .....Security alerts.... SAF... BAF...... 1911s....M14s.....pump shotguns....every day
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Posted: 12/15/2015 8:03:22 AM EST
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Yep. Ames pattern 1860 is best cutlass. http://www.thepirateslair.com/images/naval-nautical-antiques/m1860-cutlass-scabbard.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cutlasses were removed from ships' armouries in 1949. Officers used to be entitled to take their swords into action and wear them for landings during training; I think that was done away with around the same time. When I was stationed on the USS Luiseno (ATF-156) in '64 and '65, we had a dozen brass-handled Model 1860 navy cutlasses in a rack in the athwartships passageway. The PO of the Watch carried a 45, and the Messenger of the Watch carried a cutlass. If you fucked up and got some "extra military instruction" one of the regular tasks was to polish the brass on the cutlasses. Yep. Ames pattern 1860 is best cutlass. http://www.thepirateslair.com/images/naval-nautical-antiques/m1860-cutlass-scabbard.jpg Ok, What is the difference between a Cutlass, Saber and a Sword? Serious, I have no idea. |
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