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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:28:50 PM EDT
My wife “you had one job”....
 is looking for a self defense knife. She is not interested in carrying a gun with our gang of children around her all the time. She would prefer a knife as it’s easier to fuck someone/ something up with a knife and not worry about aim, backstops, etc. I am strongly considering a microtech side opening automatic. In theory the knife would always be in her pocket so I’m looking for a folder and I think a side folding auto would be the easiest to not mess up when deploying in a high stress situation. Her number one concern is random dogs while walking kids to the bus stop. She already carries a zapping flashlight but we are looking for lethal options to stop an attack quick.TLDR: what knife for the wife? Microtech LUDT |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:31:39 PM EDT
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Think your wife has it in her to stab something to death?
Take her to a knife counter at the outdoors store and let her feel all the knives to decide |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:32:04 PM EDT
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Kershaw launch series are mostly side opening autos and will be cheaper than Microtech.
Protech has some good options too. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:32:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:32:29 PM EDT
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What if her attacker is carrying a gun, or a baseball bat, or a knife but has longer arms, or...
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:33:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: My wife "you had one job".... is looking for a self defense knife. She is not interested in carrying a gun with our gang of children around her all the time. She would prefer a knife as it's easier to fuck someone/ something up with a knife and not worry about aim, backstops, etc. I am strongly considering a microtech side opening automatic. In theory the knife would always be in her pocket so I'm looking for a folder and I think a side folding auto would be the easiest to not mess up when deploying in a high stress situation. Her number one concern is random dogs while walking kids to the bus stop. She already carries a zapping flashlight but we are looking for lethal options to stop an attack quick.TLDR: what knife for the wife? Microtech LUDT |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:33:57 PM EDT
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Something that she can train on. Push dagger.
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:34:21 PM EDT
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She's gonna stab a dog?
what if the dog has a gun? pepper spray is probably the only answer. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:35:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if her attacker is carrying a gun, or a baseball bat, or a knife but has longer arms, or... A knife can be a limited range weapon, as seen here: 
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:36:27 PM EDT
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PM2. My wife carries one.
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:38:41 PM EDT
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Need pics of wife to determine stature for blade style and length.
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:39:10 PM EDT
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Against DOGS?
S&W EZ .380 You don't use a knife against dogs by choice. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:40:27 PM EDT
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Knives don’t stop an attack quick.
If she is leery of using a gun, no way will she be able to use a knife the way you have to in a fight. Get her a walking stick. Or a sjambok. Or a shelaghlea. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:41:09 PM EDT
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Ka-Bar TDI.
Teach her tendons and artery's. If it gets to the knife, she's in physical contact. They might as well half bleed out before regaining distance. Folders only work if deployed early. Slashes and deep cuts are faster, and more effective. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:41:57 PM EDT
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I have several protech out-the-side autos that are rock solid. However, I started carrying microtech out-the-front ultratech autos because I think they're easier to deploy, if you have the hand strength, require less dexterity/skill, and they aren't blocked by side obstructions like an OTS could be.
My wife can't operate the OTF because her hand strength is limited, so that may be a consideration for your wife. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:42:20 PM EDT
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Pepper Spray is what she really needs.
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:44:00 PM EDT
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Your wife's planning to stab and slash a dog to death?
Do you think she's capable of pushing a knife into a dog with its teeth on her wrist? |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:45:44 PM EDT
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Chef Knives come in different sizes. The two most popular size being 6" and 8".
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:46:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Knives don’t stop an attack quick. If she is leery of using a gun, no way will she be able to use a knife the way you have to in a fight. Get her a walking stick. Or a sjambok. Or a shelaghlea. Oh yeah, you can fuck shit up QUICK with a sjambok. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:46:50 PM EDT
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If concerned about dogs, a knife would be my last choice
 #Pitbull Attack. aggresive pitbull terrier (Tiger) |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:50:12 PM EDT
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Get her a Gryphon M10. Fixed blade so she doesn’t have to fiddle faddle trying to open it.
https://cutleryshoppe.com/gryphon-knives-terzuola-design-m10-4-0-laminated-vg-10-blade-w-black-dlc-finish-boltaron-sheathpro-sheath/ 
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:50:15 PM EDT
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The CRKT Obake can be found cheap and for what it’s designed for (defense) its the best value. I picked up a few of them and gave them as gifts to friends when Wally World had them on clearance for $5 and they all love the obake and carry to this day. I would not cry if I lost the obake compared to my other high end knives.
 CRKT Obake Knife Overview | by Lucas Burnley |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:51:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The CRKT Obake can be found cheap and for what it’s designed for (defense) its the best value. I picked up a few of them and gave them as gifts to friends when Wally World had them on clearance for $5 and they all love the obake and carry to this day. I would not cry if I lost the obake compared to my other high end knives.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpIHiL2JFncI EDC an Obake. I nearly recommended a kwaiken until I saw it was for dogs. I’ve met Lucas before, too. Maybe someday I’ll own one of his real knives. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:53:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:55:17 PM EDT
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If it's just for casual carry and a confidence boost a flipper is quick and simple. Anything that's slim in profile when folded, 3" ish blade, under 3 oz. Don't have to spend a lot of money on it. Pepper spray's a good idea too.
If she's serious about using a knife as primary defense option then find her a grappling class that teaches knife combat and then get her whatever blade she wants. But at that point she might be better off with a LCP 22LR with a laser sight. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:58:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chef Knives come in different sizes. The two most popular size being 6" and 8". 
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:59:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ka-Bar TDI. Teach her tendons and artery's. If it gets to the knife, she's in physical contact. They might as well half bleed out before regaining distance. Folders only work if deployed early. Slashes and deep cuts are faster, and more effective. The Ka-bar family of blades are excellent tools and a good fighting blade. Smash the piggy bank if need be, get good quality, and, if possible... two. And fergossake get her to a knife instructor that is NOT friend or family. Contact close, she will do best fighting as if her life depends on it... because contact close, it does. We are truly in the hour of the knife, pardon the pun, where the ladies must fight when we are not there. |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 11:59:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ka-Bar TDI. Teach her tendons and artery's. If it gets to the knife, she's in physical contact. They might as well half bleed out before regaining distance. Folders only work if deployed early. Slashes and deep cuts are faster, and more effective. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:06:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ka-Bar TDI. Teach her tendons and artery's. If it gets to the knife, she's in physical contact. They might as well half bleed out before regaining distance. Folders only work if deployed early. Slashes and deep cuts are faster, and more effective. Thank you |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:08:50 AM EDT
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Here you go OP, this is what you seek.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/has-anyone-actually-used-a-sjambok.186138/  Cold Steel Sjambok |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:21:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pepper Spray is what she really needs. Personally I would go with this |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:23:10 AM EDT
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Sounds like she needs a neck knife instead of a pocket like an ESEE Izula or double edged cold steel.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:23:48 AM EDT
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I carry almost wherever I go, usually an ESEE Candiru or a Kershaw Leek. But I carry them not as defensive weapons but as tools. If I was to carry a knife solely for defense it would be something like a Karambit due to better control. What I have read and been told is knife fighting is not as easy as it might sound. The type of knives historically used for defense were daggers and things like Dirks. Fixed blades and around 10 inches if not more. A 3 or 4 inch blade that is concealable would not be my choice.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:26:30 AM EDT
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If your wife is not willing to carry a gun, asking her to stab someone to death is just a silly joke OP. Quit being silly.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:29:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chef Knives come in different sizes. The two most popular size being 6" and 8". 
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:36:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Need pics of wife to determine stature for FIFY... |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:37:43 AM EDT
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Just as an aside... knives don’t stop attacks “quick” unless you really know what you’re doing. It takes lots of practice to know what you’re doing, and to be able to target (presumably on a moving target that’s trying to assault her) critical areas.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:40:18 AM EDT
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If it’s for dogs, you need something with some reach - like a spear.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:41:04 AM EDT
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When/where did she earn an Army Ranger combat ribbon?
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:41:56 AM EDT
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While I'm not an expert on knives or self defense, seems now is one of those times to welcome and educate, rather than eat our own.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:45:42 AM EDT
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Are there truly known aggressive dogs in the area? A knife is just not going to be a winning solution, it's simply a feel good solution and counting on percentage chances nothing is going to happen. Can't even convince her of a derringer AND a knife?
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:47:33 AM EDT
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Spyderco Civilian or Matriarch
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:49:00 AM EDT
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Which one did she like best/do best with in her classes?
Always an easy choice to just get the same model in sharped blade. 
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:51:31 AM EDT
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The best knife is one that shoots 147g pieces of metal at 1000fps.
I would not want to fight a dog with a knife. Let alone a person. Maybe with a spear. Man invented spears for killing animals and people for a reason. They learned that if the knife had 8ft reach they got hurt less. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:52:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ka-Bar TDI. Teach her tendons and artery's. If it gets to the knife, she's in physical contact. They might as well half bleed out before regaining distance. Folders only work if deployed early. Slashes and deep cuts are faster, and more effective. Came here to suggest a TDI. Was beat. 
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:52:57 AM EDT
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Grown men with twice the weight of the attacker often don't have what it takes to kill something with a knife. There's no shame in that because it is a close range weapon that has a very small wounding profile. Get her something else.
And don't get her a kubaton or any of those shitty plastic "cat face" plastic things either. Get her OC or a BIG "walking" stick. Something that puts distance between her and whatever she's dealing with. Something that has a legit use but has enough heft that a swing to the temple will rock something's world. Shoving a 5ft pole down a dog's throat is a better bet than trying to hit an artery with a knife while doggo is gnawing on her arm. Works for people too. Range is the key. Knife fights (real ones like you saw in WWI) are dirty, slow, and sometimes fatal for both sides. |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:53:03 AM EDT
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It always amuses me how people won’t carry a firearm, but would a knife. A knife in a fight is quick, violent, bloody, and you see the slashes.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:53:25 AM EDT
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OP, if any way possible, get her in a Cecil Burch class in AZ:
http://www.iacombatives.com/just-like-you/ There are lots of options for carry, and here is an article that discusses many, but training is essential. https://www.mdtstraining.com/small-fixed-blade-knives-for-every-day-carry/ |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:54:47 AM EDT
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Having stabbed someone repeatedly (thread is in the archives, 6 years ago this month ) , I strongly suggest a firearm for self defense. Knives are a tool that double as a primative weapon, they should not be thought of as a 1st line self defense weapon.
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Posted: 3/18/2021 12:57:17 AM EDT
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A knife will never, ever, be a pistol. Food for thought.
..Emerson Karambit ..Spyderco Civilian or Matriarch |
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Posted: 3/18/2021 1:02:39 AM EDT
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In 20-years my wife, dog, and I were in three dog attacks and I by myself a forth. I have refined my choice of weapons based on those four fights. I carry a 1" aluminum rod 34 inches long. Feels right in the hand. Like a solid aluminum baseball bat. That's my first go-to weapon. When I used it against an attacking dog it was very effective. I carry a big Spiderco and a small Taurus .38 as well. But the rod is the first line of defense and has been good. It gives me a distance weapon that's non-lethal until I don't want it to be non-lethal. The dog I struck stopped attacking and ran away. That rod carries a lot of energy when swung hard. If the dog stops circling for any reason, they don't without application of a lot of energy, a gun could be used if you have the time to ensure a clear shot. I live in a suburb with an elementary school down the block so the risk of stray bullets injuring someone is higher than if I lived in the country. In the four fights I experienced a great amount of tunnel vision, slowing of time, and some surprising physical feats of strength and dexterity. I used pepper gas on one dog and it just sort of sneezed a couple of times and then got aggressive again. The dogs do what dogs do - they circle the prey looking for a bite from behind. With more than one dog forget about it ... bang until slide lock or click. Of course they are one trick ponies and if you can force a bite on the weak arm fending off an attack a nice knife buried repeatedly into the rib cage will slow and halt the attack. Without the knife drive the fingers of your hand through the dog's eyeballs. Not into them, through them. |
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