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Posted: 8/10/2016 11:15:25 AM EDT
Anyone have one yet? Saw one at my LGS and it really looks and feels good. Available with or without manual safety...I prefer with. Looks like a handful to shoot but I hear it's not bad at all.
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat.
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Quoted: Quoted: .45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Yes, he is wrong. I would modify his statement for truth: ".45ACP in any gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat." |
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. |
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.45ACP in a subcompact carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong There. Now it's right. What ^ guy said Its only nice for the guy who only shoots .45 and needs a subcompact and doesn't want to buy a different caliber round. |
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I own one. I love it. Recoil is very manageable, the trigger is excellent, and the grip texturing is so good that Smith & Wesson should make all of the their polymer guns that way.
I've run about 50 flawless rounds through mine, and it seems to like 230gr ammo very much. The 185gr +P flying ashtrays I tried on the weekend were a bit stiffer in recoil, but nothing bad. That was the one big surprise about the gun - I expected heavy recoil, but the Shield really feels like shooting a single stack 9mm polymer gun with +P loads. ETA: and I like .45 because it resembles me - short, fat, slow. |
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.45ACP in a subcompact carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong There. Now it's right. Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". |
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Yes, he is wrong. I would modify his statement for truth: ".45ACP in any gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat." View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Yes, he is wrong. I would modify his statement for truth: ".45ACP in any gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat." |
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Quoted: Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: .45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. |
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Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". View Quote Well, the .45 Shield is virtually the same size as the 9mm Shield - about 2mm wider in the slide, and maybe a 1/2" longer. Would you call a 9mm Shield a "subcompact"? I think I would. |
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WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. |
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Loving the know it all's who THINK they got it all figured out. "There is only one right way to do anything and that is MY way!!!!"
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Quoted: Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: .45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. And that makes it ineffective how? |
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. And that makes it ineffective how? Not ineffective at all, jut inefficient and sub-optimal. |
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield
20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity |
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8+1, same as the 9mm according to the S&W website. So, make mine a .45 please.
Edit- Read it wrong. It's 6+1 or 7+1 depending on magazine choice. Still would choose the .45 though. |
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Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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.45ACP in a subcompact carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong There. Now it's right. Not really. .45ACP won't fit in a gun that could realistically be called "subcompact". Yet here we are. |
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Only because 7,568 would be too heavy, and 7,566 might not be enough to get me to a rifle. |
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. And that makes it ineffective how? Don't be silly, 230gr of lead that expands up to 1in (Federal HST) in some trims isn't effective anymore because current year, and internet hivemind feelings. |
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Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. Again, wrong. If YOU don't want .45 that's fine, but that fact does not justify your conclusions. |
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Why on God's green earth would you want *less* ammo in a defensive pistol? |
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield 20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity View Quote Doesn't look like more than 2cents worth of difference to me. I think that I would trade one round for 45 vs 9mm. But then I wouldn't want to sound judgmental of the folks that think they need 15 rounds for a half hour running gun battle with gangs of varied ethnicities. Especially since the average exchange is only 2-3 rounds. |
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I carry my G19 when I'm manstrating. Otherwise the G30 stays tucked.
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Again, wrong. If YOU don't want .45 that's fine, but that fact does not justify your conclusions. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. lol.. wrong Not wrong. The .45ACP is a great cartridge, fun as shit at the range, super cool suppressed. But in a carry gun you're either adding size/weight or giving up capacity (or both) in exchange for nothing useful. Again, wrong. If YOU don't want .45 that's fine, but that fact does not justify your conclusions. I have several, including a revolver and bolt-action rifle. |
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. Yep and I carried one in Vietnam...10mm more better. |
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. Describe, in detail, in exactily which way .45ACP is a legacy cartridge? Is it because of it's age? Protip: 9x19 Parabellum (Luger) is older. |
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If S&W came out with a 10mm or .357 sig version of the Shield I would buy them for CCW options.
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We may not agree on much when it comes to 9 vs 45.
But we all know that 40 is for faggots. |
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. View Quote Glock 21 with 13+1 of 45 makes sense to me; I carry it rather than G 19 with 15+1 Yea, I give up two rounds, but comparing HST penetration is about the same, expanded diameter not (about .65 vs .85) Given equal shot placement and penetration, a bigger hole is an advantage. In stupid places with 10 round magazine limit, I would much rather have a 10 round Glock 30 than a neutered 10 round Glock 19. |
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Didn't 45 come out around 1904 and the 9mm around 1902?
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. WAT? Was that an attempt at humor or mass quantities of tard? Just reality. .45ACP is a legacy cartridge. |
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Doesn't look like more than 2cents worth of difference to me. I think that I would trade one round for 45 vs 9mm. But then I wouldn't want to sound judgmental of the folks that think they need 15 rounds for a half hour running gun battle with gangs of varied ethnicities. Especially since the average exchange is only 2-3 rounds. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield 20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity Doesn't look like more than 2cents worth of difference to me. I think that I would trade one round for 45 vs 9mm. But then I wouldn't want to sound judgmental of the folks that think they need 15 rounds for a half hour running gun battle with gangs of varied ethnicities. Especially since the average exchange is only 2-3 rounds. Shit happens. .45ACP isn't a death ray. https://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/ |
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Describe, in detail, in exactily which way .45ACP is a legacy cartridge? Is it because of it's age? Protip: 9x19 Parabellum (Luger) is older. View Quote By "legacy cartridge" I mean that it still remains quite popular almost entirely because of its legacy. If introduced today it would see little to no traction (see .45GAP). |
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Shit happens. .45ACP isn't a death ray. https://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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45 Shield vs 9 shield vs 40 shield 20.5 oz vs 19 vs 19 3.3" vs 3.1 vs 3.1 Barrel 6.45" OAL vs 6.1 vs 6.1 .99" Width vs. .95 vs .95 4.88" Height vs. 4.6 vs 4.6 6+1 vs 7+1 vs 6+1 capacity Doesn't look like more than 2cents worth of difference to me. I think that I would trade one round for 45 vs 9mm. But then I wouldn't want to sound judgmental of the folks that think they need 15 rounds for a half hour running gun battle with gangs of varied ethnicities. Especially since the average exchange is only 2-3 rounds. Shit happens. .45ACP isn't a death ray. https://www.policeone.com/police-heroes/articles/6199620-Why-one-cop-carries-145-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job/ Absolutely agree.....I just like bigger holes. At least in some situations. |
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Quoted: By "legacy cartridge" I mean that it still remains quite popular almost entirely because of its legacy. If introduced today it would see little to no traction (see .45GAP). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Describe, in detail, in exactily which way .45ACP is a legacy cartridge? Is it because of it's age? Protip: 9x19 Parabellum (Luger) is older. By "legacy cartridge" I mean that it still remains quite popular almost entirely because of its legacy. If introduced today it would see little to no traction (see .45GAP). I have no problem if you want to carry 9mm or the best mm which is 10. Or if you want to carry .45acp, .357sig and mag. All your business. But anytime you get on a forum with the express intent of telling other people they are wrong in their choice, you are just looking to argue. Liberty and all if that is what you want to do. But do know that those of us who carry .45acp, either all the time or on occasion, could facetiously turn your logic back on you and say you need more rounds because you are a suck shot? Or a couple other silly arguments. I won't make those, I will simply say my choice is my choice. What makes my choice wrong for you has no bearing on why it is right for me. Good luck and I hope you never encounter a personal defense situation, regardless of what caliber you are carrying. For the record, I own 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp pistols. I love them all. Good luck on being right in the future. |
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Glock 21 with 13+1 of 45 makes sense to me; I carry it rather than G 19 with 15+1 Yea, I give up two rounds, but comparing HST penetration is about the same, expanded diameter not (about .65 vs .85) Given equal shot placement and penetration, a bigger hole is an advantage. In stupid places with 10 round magazine limit, I would much rather have a 10 round Glock 30 than a neutered 10 round Glock 19. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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.45ACP in a carry gun makes zero sense, but whatever floats your boat. Glock 21 with 13+1 of 45 makes sense to me; I carry it rather than G 19 with 15+1 Yea, I give up two rounds, but comparing HST penetration is about the same, expanded diameter not (about .65 vs .85) Given equal shot placement and penetration, a bigger hole is an advantage. In stupid places with 10 round magazine limit, I would much rather have a 10 round Glock 30 than a neutered 10 round Glock 19. Largely agree. How about a Glock 29 w/ 15+1 rounds of 10mm? |
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For the record, I own 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp pistols. I love them all. Good luck on being right in the future. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
For the record, I own 9mm, 10mm, and .45acp pistols. I love them all. Good luck on being right in the future. Carried the best millimeter for a few years (see screen name). 135gr JHP at 1600fps FTW! Quoted:
In stupid places with 10 round magazine limit, I would much rather have a 10 round Glock 30 than a neutered 10 round Glock 19. Places like that are too gross for me to even think about long enough to do those sorts of calculations. |
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