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Posted: 2/12/2020 4:12:01 PM EDT

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Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it. Oh, my God. It even has a watermark.

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Posted: 2/12/2020 4:12:13 PM EDT

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DOUBLETAP

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:13:44 PM EDT

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It’s an old people thing.

We had a Lear 45 that needed paint 2 years ago and they took the rather modern and nice paint job and changed it to 80’s straight lines and terribly boring tail numbers. All the colors suck and the design is amateur looking.

All of this was because they wanted it to look like our past (and older) planes with similar terrible paint jobs.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:16:49 PM EDT

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Was TWA '2nd tier"?

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Came here to post that the new AF1 livery looks like the TWA one.

Needs that gold cheat line.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:19:47 PM EDT

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Trump will likely never even use the new plane. It is not scheduled for delivery until 2024.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:23:00 PM EDT

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Trump will likely never even use the new plane. It is not scheduled for delivery until 2024.

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Not if he wins a third term.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:23:23 PM EDT

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The important improvement is all the crap they hopefully upgraded inside. These planes are from the late 80s and rarely get lengthy overhauls.

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8000 and 9000 get lengthy overhauls every 18 months or so and have been getting them since they were put into service. Work used to be done at Wichita now its down at San Antonio.

The PAG needs to get away from maintaining everything like a "flying museum" and keep things modern.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:30:17 PM EDT

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Looks okay to me, but I'm not picky.
I WOULD like to know the engine specs., which are classified information.
After 9-11, Air Force One was said to have climbed like a Rocket after take off.
Versus the civilian model.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:32:59 PM EDT

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Looks okay to me, but I'm not picky.
I WOULD like to know the engine specs., which are classified information.
After 9-11, Air Force One was said to have climbed like a Rocket after take off.
Versus the civilian model.

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Its a 747-200 with 400 engines. Not classified, and it’s handed out with fact sheets during tours regularly. Tens of thousands of those floating around

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:34:52 PM EDT

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Not a fan.... I like the current paintjob. It is timeless, world recognizable, and the National Seals clearly sticks out and is clearly visible.

Trump's paintjob looks like a nationalized commercial airliner. The current paintjob looks clearly like something that belongs to the USAF.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:40:13 PM EDT

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Its a 747-200 with 400 engines. Not classified, and it’s handed out with fact sheets during tours regularly. Tens of thousands of those floating around

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Looks okay to me, but I'm not picky.
I WOULD like to know the engine specs., which are classified information.
After 9-11, Air Force One was said to have climbed like a Rocket after take off.
Versus the civilian model.

Its a 747-200 with 400 engines. Not classified, and it’s handed out with fact sheets during tours regularly. Tens of thousands of those floating around

I have read that they are highly modified for more power.
?????

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:42:40 PM EDT

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Not a fan.... I like the current paintjob. It is timeless, world recognizable, and the National Seals clearly sticks out and is clearly visible.

Trump's paintjob looks like a nationalized commercial airliner. The current paintjob looks clearly like something that belongs to the USAF.

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The current livery is based off Jackie O's design for AF1. Robins Egg Blue and blue pastel paints are straight up early 1960's designs that we shouldn't be using. The PAG has stuck with it across multiple iterations of AF1's because of tradition. Just because that's how something has always been done doesn't mean it has to always be that way.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:48:36 PM EDT

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I like it.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:57:24 PM EDT

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I have read that they are highly modified for more power.
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Looks okay to me, but I'm not picky.
I WOULD like to know the engine specs., which are classified information.
After 9-11, Air Force One was said to have climbed like a Rocket after take off.
Versus the civilian model.

Its a 747-200 with 400 engines. Not classified, and it’s handed out with fact sheets during tours regularly. Tens of thousands of those floating around

I have read that they are highly modified for more power.
?????

I would be shocked to learn that was actually the case. Its performance is more likely a factor of it usually flying rather short hops for a 747 and thus is a lot lower on fuel than most of its compatriots are.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:58:43 PM EDT

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Add hard points under the wing and call it good.

Posted: 2/12/2020 4:59:51 PM EDT

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I would be shocked to learn that was actually the case. Its performance is more likely a factor of it usually flying rather short hops for a 747 and thus is a lot lower on fuel than most of its compatriots are.

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Looks okay to me, but I'm not picky.
I WOULD like to know the engine specs., which are classified information.
After 9-11, Air Force One was said to have climbed like a Rocket after take off.
Versus the civilian model.

Its a 747-200 with 400 engines. Not classified, and it’s handed out with fact sheets during tours regularly. Tens of thousands of those floating around

I have read that they are highly modified for more power.
?????

I would be shocked to learn that was actually the case. Its performance is more likely a factor of it usually flying rather short hops for a 747 and thus is a lot lower on fuel than most of its compatriots are.

I would think durability and reliability are more important than raw power in this situation. Plus, I think the AF1 configuration is much lighter than any freighter or commuter jet, so they have a really good thrust to weight ratio.

Posted: 2/12/2020 5:00:15 PM EDT

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I would have preferred an evolution of the current design; darker blues and the addition of red (like replacing that central white length section with red)

Posted: 2/12/2020 5:08:06 PM EDT

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I like it better than the baby blue it is now.

ETA: that whole reverse flag because you are advancing and never retreating is some of the dumbest shit ever conceived by the hand of man.

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Saw a dude yesterday walking to his depressing cubicle wearing a brand-new, super tactical backpack with the Velcro on the back and one of those backward flags stuck squarely on the back of the pack.
Bit my tongue.

Posted: 2/12/2020 5:08:26 PM EDT

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I dig it! Never been a fan of the baby blue.

Posted: 2/12/2020 5:19:27 PM EDT

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Air Superiority Grey (that's a real thing) would send that unmistakable "we're here to party, but have no qualms about fucking up your little shithole" message.

Kind of like a reverse mullet.

Posted: 2/12/2020 5:20:34 PM EDT

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Why not keep the top, and replace the baby blue bottom with red? The layout has become sort of iconic, but the colors could use a tweak.

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I agree with those saying it looks like something flown by a discount airline.

The current design is iconic and goes back a long damn time.

Some history:

Truman...

http://www.avgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/160426-F-IO108-002.jpg

Ike...

https://i2.wp.com/www.avgeekery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/160426-F-IO108-013.jpg

Starting in 1962...

https://media.defense.gov/2010/Mar/09/2000387477/-1/-1/0/100309-F-1234S-007.JPG

This one entered service in 1972 and resides in Reagan's library:

https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/jj/jjviaypzad9x89ut.jpg?auto=compress%2Cformat

1990...

http://www.hottail.nl/basevisits/2005/0507-AirForceOne-Maastricht/Images/VC25A-28000-017.jpg

Why not keep the top, and replace the baby blue bottom with red? The layout has become sort of iconic, but the colors could use a tweak.

You do realize I was only joking about that kind of troll earlier, right?

AF1 should not look like a Russian flag.

Posted: 2/12/2020 5:22:57 PM EDT

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I like it. Simple, classy. Honestly, it's a lot better than I thought he'd do considering how much I hate his residence in NY.

Posted: 2/12/2020 5:25:48 PM EDT

[#23]

Great!

Posted: 2/12/2020 5:25:52 PM EDT

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Was TWA '2nd tier"?

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President Trump revealed the new proposed paint scheme to be used on the new Air Force One 747-800s.

I think it looks like a 2nd tier airline. What do you guys think?
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2019/06/AP_19171608501985-1024x615.jpg

Was TWA '2nd tier"?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/215624/0631579_jpg-1273569.JPG

Well they went bankrupt so...

Posted: 2/12/2020 6:35:08 PM EDT

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That is sweet looking.

Posted: 2/12/2020 6:53:18 PM EDT

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The current livery is based off Jackie O's design for AF1. Robins Egg Blue and blue pastel paints are straight up early 1960's designs that we shouldn't be using. The PAG has stuck with it across multiple iterations of AF1's because of tradition. Just because that's how something has always been done doesn't mean it has to always be that way.

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Not a fan.... I like the current paintjob. It is timeless, world recognizable, and the National Seals clearly sticks out and is clearly visible.

Trump's paintjob looks like a nationalized commercial airliner. The current paintjob looks clearly like something that belongs to the USAF.

The current livery is based off Jackie O's design for AF1. Robins Egg Blue and blue pastel paints are straight up early 1960's designs that we shouldn't be using. The PAG has stuck with it across multiple iterations of AF1's because of tradition. Just because that's how something has always been done doesn't mean it has to always be that way.

We should repaint the (Red) White (and Blue) House.

Shit’s old and boring.

Posted: 2/12/2020 6:59:27 PM EDT

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I like it, but would rather the bottom be in a dark navy blue...should be red white and blue in some form...not digging the black underside.

Posted: 2/12/2020 7:15:52 PM EDT

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I like it and love it even more because libs crying it looks like Trump's plane scheme
I never was a fan of the sissy sky blue.
I know they say it's supposed to be harder to see but is that actually true or even valid in todays high tech world

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This. The previous scheme was yawn-inducing.

Posted: 2/12/2020 7:20:49 PM EDT

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Don't worry, gents and gals.

When Mayor Pete becomes Pres, he'll have the tail repainted with the rainbow flag.

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Not worried, because it will never happen.

ETA: needs this painted on the tail:

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Posted: 2/12/2020 7:24:58 PM EDT

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I would think durability and reliability are more important than raw power in this situation. Plus, I think the AF1 configuration is much lighter than any freighter or commuter jet, so they have a really good thrust to weight ratio.

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Air Force One is heavier than a 747-400 empty, probably due to the interior and all the added electronics and communication shit, but it has a lower MTOW than the -400 since it's smaller and has less powerful engines.

Posted: 2/12/2020 7:27:32 PM EDT

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Are they taking applications for door gunner yet?

Posted: 2/12/2020 7:31:09 PM EDT

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Came to post the same thing but with a Bald Eagle on the front

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Maybe something like this painted on the nose so it's what is seen from head-on?

Posted: 2/12/2020 7:33:30 PM EDT

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Classy and timeless, looks like a Rolex.

Posted: 2/12/2020 7:34:52 PM EDT

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Noice.

Posted: 2/12/2020 7:38:58 PM EDT

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oops

Posted: 2/12/2020 7:42:29 PM EDT

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Needs a shark mouth on the nose. Maybe a Melania pin up also.

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sorry - last post oops

here's my take... I agree with this post

Posted: 2/12/2020 8:23:32 PM EDT

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I second shark teeth and Melanie pinup.

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Posted: 2/13/2020 8:49:58 AM EDT

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The current livery is based off Jackie O's design for AF1. Robins Egg Blue and blue pastel paints are straight up early 1960's designs that we shouldn't be using. The PAG has stuck with it across multiple iterations of AF1's because of tradition. Just because that's how something has always been done doesn't mean it has to always be that way.

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Not a fan.... I like the current paintjob. It is timeless, world recognizable, and the National Seals clearly sticks out and is clearly visible.

Trump's paintjob looks like a nationalized commercial airliner. The current paintjob looks clearly like something that belongs to the USAF.

The current livery is based off Jackie O's design for AF1. Robins Egg Blue and blue pastel paints are straight up early 1960's designs that we shouldn't be using. The PAG has stuck with it across multiple iterations of AF1's because of tradition. Just because that's how something has always been done doesn't mean it has to always be that way.

No it's not.... Raymond Loewy designed the paint job!

Posted: 2/13/2020 8:51:56 AM EDT

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Not if he wins a third term.

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Posted: 2/13/2020 9:04:07 AM EDT

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The current livery is based off Jackie O's design for AF1. Robins Egg Blue and blue pastel paints are straight up early 1960's designs that we shouldn't be using. The PAG has stuck with it across multiple iterations of AF1's because of tradition. Just because that's how something has always been done doesn't mean it has to always be that way.

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Not a fan.... I like the current paintjob. It is timeless, world recognizable, and the National Seals clearly sticks out and is clearly visible.

Trump's paintjob looks like a nationalized commercial airliner. The current paintjob looks clearly like something that belongs to the USAF.

The current livery is based off Jackie O's design for AF1. Robins Egg Blue and blue pastel paints are straight up early 1960's designs that we shouldn't be using. The PAG has stuck with it across multiple iterations of AF1's because of tradition. Just because that's how something has always been done doesn't mean it has to always be that way.

Tradition is exactly why we should be using it. I know she designed it during the 60s. That's what makes it look timeless.

Tradition is something we keep forgetting.

Posted: 2/13/2020 9:08:15 AM EDT

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Tradition is exactly why we should be using it. I know she designed it during the 60s. That's what makes it look timeless.

Tradition is something we keep forgetting.

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Then we should go to a buffed aluminum if tradition is a driving factor.