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Posted: 2/5/2022 10:22:49 AM EDT
https://news.yahoo.com/scientific-paper-claims-octopuses-actually-161100373.html
Octopuses are from space. I know, that sounds like the opening line of a cheesy science fiction movie from the black and white days of Hollywood. But it’s actually the main part of the argument behind a research paper published in an actual peer-reviewed journal. The paper was published in the journal Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology. Titled Cause of the Cambrian Explosion – Terrestrial or Cosmic?, the paper digs deep into the origin of life on Earth. -------------------------------------- Believe the science. |
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The chances of proteins being able to be used from terrestrial organisms is either near 0% or near 100%, which puts an interesting twist on alien life.
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That theory has been around for a while. I believe other papers were claiming something similar years ago.
I don't believe it but there are a lot of fun ways to spin it into a movie plot. You could turn it into anything from Mars Attacks to Prometheus. |
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No it doesn't.
"However consistent with this conclusion are the recent RNA editing transcriptome-wide data on the somatic RNA diversification mechanisms in the behaviourally sophisticated Cephalopods such as Octopus. These data demonstrate extensive evolutionary conserved adenosine to inosine (A-to-I) mRNA editing sites in almost every single protein-coding gene in the behaviorally complex coleoid Cephalopods (Octopus in particular), but not in nautilus (Liscovitch-Brauer et al., 2017). This enormous qualitative difference in Cephalopod protein recoding A-to-I mRNA editing compared to nautilus and other invertebrate and vertebrate animals is striking. Thus in transcriptome-wide screens only 13% of Drosophila and human protein coding mRNAs harbour an A-to-I recoding site; and there only about 25 human mRNA messages which contain a conserved A-to-I recoding site across mammals. In Drosophila lineages there are about 65 conserved A-sites in protein coding genes and only a few identified in C. elegans which support the hypothesis that A-to-I RNA editing recoding is mostly either neutral, detrimental, or rarely adaptive (reviewed in Liscovitch-Brauer et al., 2017). Yet in Squid and particularly Octopus it is the norm, with almost every protein coding gene having an evolutionary conserved A-to-I mRNA editing site isoform, resulting in a nonsynonymous amino acid change (Liscovitch-Brauer et al., 2017). This is a virtual qualitative jump in molecular genetic strategy in a supposed smooth and incremental evolutionary lineage - a type of sudden "great leap forward". Unless all the new genes expressed in the squid/octopus lineages arose from simple mutations of existing genes in either the squid or in other organisms sharing the same habitat, there is surely no way by which this large qualitative transition in A-to-I mRNA editing can be explained by conventional neo-Darwinian processes, even if horizontal gene transfer is allowed. One plausible explanation, in our view, is that the new genes are likely new extraterrestrial imports to Earth - most plausibly as an already coherent group of functioning genes within (say) cryopreserved and matrix protected fertilized Octopus eggs." |
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That's stupid. We all know there's several types of aliens but octopi aren't one of them.
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Check out the book Fracture, it's about octupi evolving indepently from the rest of the world and being intelligent and cunning.
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NEVER trust non-science accounts of science as accurate.
I you care about the issue read the paper. |
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I bet Fauci sent them our taxpayers dollars to research that.
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They're intelligent, but I don't think they're smart enough to build and fly spaceships.
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Meh.
Still delicious if cooked right. They also make great ceviche. |
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I got to be honest, they are definitely the smartest thing I eat.
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We actually do this one a lot. They’re interesting, but they aren’t aliens.
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The only sane thing from the article:
Keith Baverstock, a medical researcher with the University of Eastern Finland, reviewed the paper. In his review, Baverstock stated that there is indeed a lot of evidence that makes the thesis plausible. However, he said that this isn’t how science advances. Because so much of the evidence is not definitive, this thesis only adds to the mystery surrounding the origin of life. In fact, nothing in the paper’s summary really helps us better understand the history of life on our planet. It only adds more conjectures to the already overflowing pot of theories that science has birthed over the years. View Quote |
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This is right out of Resident Alien... a SciFy comedy series.
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Quoted: No it doesn't. "However consistent with this conclusion are the recent RNA editing transcriptome-wide data on the somatic RNA diversification mechanisms in the behaviourally sophisticated Cephalopods such as Octopus. These data demonstrate extensive evolutionary conserved adenosine to inosine (A-to-I) mRNA editing sites in almost every single protein-coding gene in the behaviorally complex coleoid Cephalopods (Octopus in particular), but not in nautilus (Liscovitch-Brauer et al., 2017). This enormous qualitative difference in Cephalopod protein recoding A-to-I mRNA editing compared to nautilus and other invertebrate and vertebrate animals is striking. Thus in transcriptome-wide screens only 13% of Drosophila and human protein coding mRNAs harbour an A-to-I recoding site; and there only about 25 human mRNA messages which contain a conserved A-to-I recoding site across mammals. In Drosophila lineages there are about 65 conserved A-sites in protein coding genes and only a few identified in C. elegans which support the hypothesis that A-to-I RNA editing recoding is mostly either neutral, detrimental, or rarely adaptive (reviewed in Liscovitch-Brauer et al., 2017). Yet in Squid and particularly Octopus it is the norm, with almost every protein coding gene having an evolutionary conserved A-to-I mRNA editing site isoform, resulting in a nonsynonymous amino acid change (Liscovitch-Brauer et al., 2017). This is a virtual qualitative jump in molecular genetic strategy in a supposed smooth and incremental evolutionary lineage - a type of sudden "great leap forward". Unless all the new genes expressed in the squid/octopus lineages arose from simple mutations of existing genes in either the squid or in other organisms sharing the same habitat, there is surely no way by which this large qualitative transition in A-to-I mRNA editing can be explained by conventional neo-Darwinian processes, even if horizontal gene transfer is allowed. One plausible explanation, in our view, is that the new genes are likely new extraterrestrial imports to Earth - most plausibly as an already coherent group of functioning genes within (say) cryopreserved and matrix protected fertilized Octopus eggs." View Quote im tarded...TL:DR |
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A really brilliant, well schooled person once opined that if octopuses enjoyed really long lives, they'd likely eventually rule the world, or be a viable challenge toward it.
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Quoted: And in Men in Black https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/120557/4C96E988-6C7D-42C2-8441-2F2607A48BF1_jpe-2267643.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pfff, already covered in Resident Alien. And in Men in Black https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/120557/4C96E988-6C7D-42C2-8441-2F2607A48BF1_jpe-2267643.JPG Attached File Quarren approved. |
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This one's an actual peer reviewed journal. Sounds so credible much bonafide after all that experts, anonymous sources and possible allegations.
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Quoted: That theory has been around for a while. I believe other papers were claiming something similar years ago. I don't believe it but there are a lot of fun ways to spin it into a movie plot. You could turn it into anything from Mars Attacks to Prometheus. View Quote Yep. I’ve been hearing this for years. But a lot of animals are proof that evolution is not A fact. |
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Quoted: Yep. I’ve been hearing this for years. But a lot of animals are proof that evolution is not A fact. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: That theory has been around for a while. I believe other papers were claiming something similar years ago. I don't believe it but there are a lot of fun ways to spin it into a movie plot. You could turn it into anything from Mars Attacks to Prometheus. Yep. I’ve been hearing this for years. But a lot of animals are proof that evolution is not A fact. horseshoe crabs been keeping it the same for a long time |
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"He'd let us in, knows where we've been, in an octopuses garden by the sea."
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It's not new, it's over three years old, and it's been posted a few times.
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Actually just from looks alone I'd say the platypus was an alien. But the article was good for a laugh.
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