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So if he forms a party, do his supporters vote for him or vote R the way they’ve been screaming at anyone that dares to consider voting Libertarian or something else?
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Anyone who thinks the establishment Republican party is still a viable party has been living under a rock for the past 4 years.
Establishment Republicans come around every four years lie to get your vote then promptly stab their supporters in the back as soon as they get to d.c. I don't think the establishment knows how much damage they have done yet. Their silence while the country burned this summer was deafening. There failure to defend trump supporters that did not get caught up in that ridiculous riot was the final act of betrayal. It showed me that the establishment Republicans are perfectly willing to have two standards of justice. One for Democrats the other for conservatives. Once again they failed to control the narrative and then threw their own people under the bus post hast. It is not so much that they hate trump that bothers me. It is their complete and utter incompetence, and a willingness to always let the left define them without so much as a whimper. They also love the d.c. status quo which I can never understand. The d.c. bureaucracy hates them. I have come to the following conclusion on establishment Republicans, they are either incompetent or in cahoots with the left. I can not in good conscience ever vote for an establishment Republican again. At least the democrats tell you to your face they hate you. The establishment lies to you. I have voted in every presidential election and primary since I turned 18. Trump did not destroy tbe Republican party he just show us what the party really stands for. |
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Quoted: My favorite part is watching the diehard republicans defend the party of mcstain, romney, bush, etc etc. The same class of assholes that have been stabbing you in the back for decades. The same assholes that send our men to die in shitholes, while raising your taxes and reducing your freedom. The same pieces of shit that the democrats are. Republicans and democrats belong to the ASS party. Reps on the right cheek, dems on the left. Both working together to shit on Americans. Fuck them i'm done being shit on. You wanna continue getting your ration of shit from these fuckers, be my guest. I'll take my chances with a 3rd party. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The responses on here are the exact reasons the democrats are running the country right now. They might be a bunch of fucking retards, but they stick together. My favorite part is watching the diehard republicans defend the party of mcstain, romney, bush, etc etc. The same class of assholes that have been stabbing you in the back for decades. The same assholes that send our men to die in shitholes, while raising your taxes and reducing your freedom. The same pieces of shit that the democrats are. Republicans and democrats belong to the ASS party. Reps on the right cheek, dems on the left. Both working together to shit on Americans. Fuck them i'm done being shit on. You wanna continue getting your ration of shit from these fuckers, be my guest. I'll take my chances with a 3rd party. |
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Quoted: ...and the Democrats will rule for 100 years. View Quote They have been. This whole time. Even when we have "OUR GUY" in there, they still drive policy. But the Capitol thing really fucked us HARD.. The only thing we will be allowed to do now is a tulsi gabbard party. And we will still be called racist nazis. |
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Can’t run a charity or fake university anymore, guess they need to find a new scam.
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Quoted: Keep holding out for perfection. I'm sure that it will be great and they will surely undo gun control, roll back job killing regulations, and make sure the sky is filled with unicorns when they get elected in the alternate MAGA dimension. View Quote This Jedi mind trick won't work anymore. |
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Quoted: Indeed. So many people willing to turn on us simply due to demeanor, and not policy. No President should be allowed to serve without the prerequisite number of "likes" in FB, right? Policies be damned -- we want feels! View Quote Like when they all ran on dismantling Obama care, then Trump had to fix it on his own Like when the republican lead Senate Select Intelligence Committee was silent about all the Chinese Spying, but Trump fixed that to Yes bro, please give me more republican policies and we should send more money to the trans Paki people Like all the Republicans that knew Comey and Mueller were complete trash and they let the show go on while defending Sessions You don't know shit about policy, you only know neocon shit and the plunger you use to shove it down your throat. |
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Quoted: Keep holding out for perfection. I'm sure that it will be great and they will surely undo gun control, roll back job killing regulations, and make sure the sky is filled with unicorns when they get elected in the alternate MAGA dimension. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The responses on here are the exact reasons the democrats are running the country right now. They might be a bunch of fucking retards, but they stick together. My favorite part is watching the diehard republicans defend the party of mcstain, romney, bush, etc etc. The same class of assholes that have been stabbing you in the back for decades. The same assholes that send our men to die in shitholes, while raising your taxes and reducing your freedom. The same pieces of shit that the democrats are. Republicans and democrats belong to the ASS party. Reps on the right cheek, dems on the left. Both working together to shit on Americans. Fuck them i'm done being shit on. You wanna continue getting your ration of shit from these fuckers, be my guest. I'll take my chances with a 3rd party. Pretty sure most would take INTEGRITY only at this point. It's too bad there are only THREE Republicans that have shown that in the past 13 days. That is why they are fucked. THEY did this, we didn't. And they are STILL fucking you in the ass by not putting a stop to this conservative discrimination. If you aren't fucking frothing angry, you aren't paying attention. |
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Quoted: They are already going to. What do we do at this point? Keep holding our noses and voting for the same limp dick loser party that couldn't pass or repeal laws with a majority government? Republicans care about their corporate and wealthy donors. That's it. Fuck you mr. middle class gun owner. Here's some more cheap labor that we have to bring in. We gave them bumpstocks, be glad that you can keep the rest! I used to vote for them thinking that they were the lesser evil. I'm done with that. And done with Republicans. Do nothing globalist cucks. View Quote |
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Quoted: ...and the Democrats will rule for 100 years. View Quote They here for some time, DC statehood, Puerto Rico statehood, millions of new Citizens from countries where they are used to government providing services food and housing and income. They will vote Democratic Socialist And some idiots on this board used to complain about Trump because of the bump stocks. |
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Quoted: Keep holding out for perfection. I'm sure that it will be great and they will surely undo gun control, roll back job killing regulations, and make sure the sky is filled with unicorns when they get elected in the alternate MAGA dimension. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The responses on here are the exact reasons the democrats are running the country right now. They might be a bunch of fucking retards, but they stick together. My favorite part is watching the diehard republicans defend the party of mcstain, romney, bush, etc etc. The same class of assholes that have been stabbing you in the back for decades. The same assholes that send our men to die in shitholes, while raising your taxes and reducing your freedom. The same pieces of shit that the democrats are. Republicans and democrats belong to the ASS party. Reps on the right cheek, dems on the left. Both working together to shit on Americans. Fuck them i'm done being shit on. You wanna continue getting your ration of shit from these fuckers, be my guest. I'll take my chances with a 3rd party. The funny part is, you keep defending republicans thinking they're doing any of the shit you just listed. I mean I guess we could just look at recent history and see how well they did when they had complete control. Oh look despite running on and being elected on repealing obamacare for 10 mother fucking years, when presented with the silver plater of power, failed to repeal it. Yep Trumps fault. He wasnt a polished turd republican and tweeted mean stuff. So mcstain had no choice but to spike the ball. So really the noble republicans were saving us or some shit. Hmm gun control.. lets see here. Well romney gives his state an AWB, and our boy bush wanted congress to hand him a bill to extend the one clinton gave us. Yep, your right my mistake republicans are saving us here too. Man you sure showed me. I'll make sure i only vote establishment approved republicans hence forth. |
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Quoted: The funny part is, you keep defending republicans thinking they're doing any of the shit you just listed. I mean I guess we could just look at recent history and see how well they did when they had complete control. Oh look despite running on and being elected on repealing obamacare for 10 mother fucking years, when presented with the silver plater of power, failed to repeal it. Yep Trumps fault. He wasnt a polished turd republican and tweeted mean stuff. So mcstain had no choice but to spike the ball. So really the noble republicans were saving us or some shit. Hmm gun control.. lets see here. Well romney gives his state an AWB, and our boy bush wanted congress to hand him a bill to extend the one clinton gave us. Yep, your right my mistake republicans are saving us here too. Man you sure showed me. I'll make sure i only vote establishment approved republicans hence forth. View Quote |
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Quoted: The responses on here are the exact reasons the democrats are running the country right now. They might be a bunch of fucking retards, but they stick together. View Quote The Democrats are running the country right now because Republicans were stupid enough to allow them to implement mass mail-in voting in 6 swing states. Let's be clear on that. We tried sticking together, and that's what we got. Time to go a different route. If you think that siding with Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, Susan Collins, etc. is the route to take, then we are NOT on the same side. They've been very clear that they want to purge the Trump/populist wing from the party, and we agree - it's time for us to leave. You go your way, we'll go ours. Good luck with your Democrat-Lite approach. |
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I am in.
100% done with Republicans anyway. Have been 90% done with them for about 12 years now, this shitshow has me broken from them for good. In all reality, it no longer matters who you vote for in national elections. The left know knows they control the results no matter how lopsided the actual vote is. Voting is all but a formality to make the "chattering class" feel like they have a say. |
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Quoted: Like dumb ass Lindsey Graham wanting to do something about big tech now, instead of when he actually had a chance Like when they all ran on dismantling Obama care, then Trump had to fix it on his own Like when the republican lead Senate Select Intelligence Committee was silent about all the Chinese Spying, but Trump fixed that to Yes bro, please give me more republican policies and we should send more money to the trans Paki people Like all the Republicans that knew Comey and Mueller were complete trash and they let the show go on while defending Sessions You don't know shit about policy, you only know neocon shit and the plunger you use to shove it down your throat. View Quote I think perhaps your sarcasm detector is busted or in need of recalibration (or perhaps mine is). If you read my previous posts, you’ll find that my position is against all the “republicans” (many examples of which you had in your post) that turned on us. |
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Quoted: You should at least vote to keep them in at the state level. We need to defend Texas for as long as we can. No, they aren't what I want either, but you see what the Dems are doing at the national level. God help us if they take this state. View Quote This is actually my plan. I will continue to vote for Republicans for state and local positions for now only because Texas must remain red in order to secede. I'm all about the independence movement at this point because I recognize that the USA is headed for either totalitarianism and/or collapse, and I'm not interested in playing that game. I also don't think that it's salvageable at this point. So for now my Republican governor, AG, state reps, mayor, dog catcher, etc get my vote. But Ted Cruz, John Cornyn, Chip Roy, and whatever limp-dicked diversity hire faggot the Republicans run in 2024 for POTUS can count me out. |
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Quoted: Trump has become the rights Hillary. Though the Left has realised Hillarys mere name is toxic and motivates folk into voting against her. The Right goes full on Obama worship levels with Trump. He did what he could, did way better than I hoped. But his toxicity will taint everything from here on out. His name attached will.just motivate the normally lazy to vote against it. View Quote So you're saying we vote in Romney when he's suffering debilitating dementia with Ted Cruz as his running mate, who will be our Harris? |
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Quoted: Yea no chance to create a third party and get anything other than ruin. We need to take the R back. We see what those losers do, they flock to whatever seems popular. Replace the bad ones this next round. Show we are still consolidated and that we will get rid of the losers who dont rep us. Even if some professional losers side with us we get rid of them the second round. We keep removing and replacing them with our people. Even once we have removed and replaced and have a healthy set of reps we groom a replacement for every single last one of them. We then use that as means to keep them honest. Replace anyone who becomes a loser. The 2nd string folks that arent needed are pushed into other seats and roles. We need to create a machine. Fuck fragmentation. That will cost us. What cost us all these years is we didn't control our party. Even when we showed the numbers and the enthusiasm we didn't own our own damn party. Breaking up and leaving gives our resources and the scraps we need to build that machine to some weak useless fucks that will only get in our way. Everyone needs to look in their community for people they believe could do this and we need to start this now. It will take years to even get enough to show progress. View Quote Like it or not, the GOP is dead. |
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There is no voting our way out of this mess, there never was. And there never will be.
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Quoted: They already have been lol. You think mitch and chuck don't rub their peckers together when no one is looking? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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GOP has been dead for a loooong time. Before Trump, was there a single so called Republican politician anywhere who dared so anything the left considers controversial? If they did accidentally slip up and saying something, they'd immediately apologize as soon as they were called out.
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So many fuckin never trumpers. You can have the party of Mitch and the deep state. Many of us are goi g to the new party.
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Quoted: So many fuckin never trumpers. You can have the party of Mitch and the deep state. Many of us are goi g to the new party. View Quote |
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Quoted: I am in. 100% done with Republicans anyway. Have been 90% done with them for about 12 years now, this shitshow has me broken from them for good. In all reality, it no longer matters who you vote for in national elections. The left know knows they control the results no matter how lopsided the actual vote is. Voting is all but a formality to make the "chattering class" feel like they have a say. View Quote Same Republicans can fuck off |
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Quoted: Ooh,a Patriot Party. Gun control,more spending,and bigger government? Hard pass from me. “There's an old saying in Iowa — I know it's in Texas, probably in Iowa — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.” View Quote Harlan McCraney, Presidential Speechalist |
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Quoted: if it comes down to it, they will impeach him and then vote to bar him from future office. otherwise he torpedoes any chance of a republican win in 2024 as he runs as third party. talking about 87degree chess. if the dems had any sense, theyd back off from impeachment in hopes he does run in 2024. if he does, he will destroy any chance the establishment republicans have in winning and... will allow the dems to run a truly hard core list of candidates with agendas like new green deal, reparations, citizenship for anyone that can get here and total gun confiscation. at this point trump is a major threat to the republicans. i guarantee they are flumoxed as to how to deal the orange man. View Quote You haven't been paying attention, have you? The republicans have no chance in 24 regardless. Even without the fraud that will guarantee the dems every election from here on, the republicans sold out their base in favor of the swamp. The voters will abandon them like they abandoned the voters. |
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If Mitch impeaches, RNC will be irrelevant for years to come. I'll be done with them for sure.
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Perhaps. The Tea Party did not destroy the Republican Party - just showed us who were Rhinos.
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Quoted: Yea no chance to create a third party and get anything other than ruin. We need to take the R back. We see what those losers do, they flock to whatever seems popular. Replace the bad ones this next round. Show we are still consolidated and that we will get rid of the losers who dont rep us. Even if some professional losers side with us we get rid of them the second round. We keep removing and replacing them with our people. Even once we have removed and replaced and have a healthy set of reps we groom a replacement for every single last one of them. We then use that as means to keep them honest. Replace anyone who becomes a loser. The 2nd string folks that arent needed are pushed into other seats and roles. We need to create a machine. Fuck fragmentation. That will cost us. What cost us all these years is we didn't control our party. Even when we showed the numbers and the enthusiasm we didn't own our own damn party. Breaking up and leaving gives our resources and the scraps we need to build that machine to some weak useless fucks that will only get in our way. Everyone needs to look in their community for people they believe could do this and we need to start this now. It will take years to even get enough to show progress. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The Dem goal all along was to fracture and split the GOP from the MAGA party. Without each other they can't win again. Yea no chance to create a third party and get anything other than ruin. We need to take the R back. We see what those losers do, they flock to whatever seems popular. Replace the bad ones this next round. Show we are still consolidated and that we will get rid of the losers who dont rep us. Even if some professional losers side with us we get rid of them the second round. We keep removing and replacing them with our people. Even once we have removed and replaced and have a healthy set of reps we groom a replacement for every single last one of them. We then use that as means to keep them honest. Replace anyone who becomes a loser. The 2nd string folks that arent needed are pushed into other seats and roles. We need to create a machine. Fuck fragmentation. That will cost us. What cost us all these years is we didn't control our party. Even when we showed the numbers and the enthusiasm we didn't own our own damn party. Breaking up and leaving gives our resources and the scraps we need to build that machine to some weak useless fucks that will only get in our way. Everyone needs to look in their community for people they believe could do this and we need to start this now. It will take years to even get enough to show progress. We tried to take the party back 10 years ago. No way to do it. Even at the local level, it's all a machine. They've got the money, they've got the name recognition. Swamp is gonna swamp, and newcomers are pushed to the curb. |
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Whoever gets my vote in some future election will have to have proven the ability to pick people that can do their fucking job in a governmental job. Trumps biggest downfall nominating dipshit after dipshit and never pulling the plug on them, or rarely. Republicans were already dead which is why Trump got to where he ended up. If they had been a real competent party Trump would have stayed on a TV show.
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There was already a patriot party movement, they kinda got nuked off twitter.
Unfortunately trump will never be president again. Maybe he put enough good people in the right spots to catch some shitheads but he didn't even clean house during his own administration so I doubt it. Trump is toxic as fuck in politics. He could probably help a lot with funding and organization but as the public face of a new party it would get ripped to shreds. They will probably ruin that poor man every possible way they can just because they are spiteful assholes. |
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In before voting T$ party is a vote for the democrats and if you want America to decline slightly less quickly you have to suck off every R you encounter.
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Quoted: So if he forms a party, do his supporters vote for him or vote R the way they've been screaming at anyone that dares to consider voting Libertarian or something else? View Quote There's a saying about drug addicts and alcoholics. Until they hit rock bottom, they won't change their behavior. They can't be saved, they have to want to save themselves. Well, homes... welcome to rock bottom. Noplace to fall from here. Voting 3rd party no longer costs anything. Good guys don't win anymore, bad guys do the counting. I mean, it's not like the 3rd party will win anything the way elections are run, but at least we'd be losing on our own terms. |
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Quoted: You do you. It's a free country and I'm sure it will be better with a 51% Democrat, 30% Republican, 18% Patriot and 1% Other split in politics. It will be a grand time. View Quote As opposed to 51% Dem, 48% GOP and 1% Other? Both result in a dem win, but only one choice makes the fucking dumbass GOP reconsider its surrender platform. |
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Quoted: Pretty much. Between his ego and his cult like support it was only a matter of time before he killed the GOP and gave the Democrats control for the next decade+. View Quote The GOP killed itself by rejecting the principles Trump held that gave him widespread legitimate support among the largest centrist/conservative/right wing voting bloc ever assembled to date. As well as rejecting those citizens that supported him in the process. |
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Quoted: Fascist governments seldom last that long. Anyway, the Republicans are never going to win another Presidential campaign again when he Democrats are done altering our system of governance. Mass amnesty with path to citizenship, packing the courts, adding a new state or two, and passing universal mass mail-in voting is going to kill the Republican party even if we don't. Best case is turning America into California, where they still have two parties, but elections don't matter anymore. No, the Republican party is already dead, even if it doesn't know it yet. Time to move on. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: ...and the Democrats will rule for 100 years. Fascist governments seldom last that long. Anyway, the Republicans are never going to win another Presidential campaign again when he Democrats are done altering our system of governance. Mass amnesty with path to citizenship, packing the courts, adding a new state or two, and passing universal mass mail-in voting is going to kill the Republican party even if we don't. Best case is turning America into California, where they still have two parties, but elections don't matter anymore. No, the Republican party is already dead, even if it doesn't know it yet. Time to move on. Good point, something to hope for. At the rate the DNC is going crazy*, they clearly aren't the long term strategic planners that build a thousand year tyranny, but the unhinged Jacobians that burn out within a year or two due to internal purging and the active avoidance of logic & reason. Survive that initial tantrum & there's a good chance you make it out alive. Rush was on point in his observation; they got everything they wanted & needed...yet instead of joy --like they had at Obama's ascendance-- they are spiraling into full-on paranoid schizophrenia before they even have the reigns of power. God knows how they'll respond once they have *actual* responsibility and pressure to perform (MSM water carrying will help, but Nancy can still easily fall on her face & she knows it, and that pressure will kill them). Far from Hannibal Lecter completing intricate his sinister plan with detached satisfaction, this is like a junkie being given a YUGE pile of heroin and going hog-wild to the point of fatal overdose. |
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Quoted: You do you. It's a free country and I'm sure it will be better with a 51% Democrat, 30% Republican, 18% Patriot and 1% Other split in politics. It will be a grand time. View Quote If Trump starts his own party, it will take 87% of current Republicans (the percentage the recently polled to still support Trump even after the DC fiasco), 10% of current Democrats, and most of the middle. That's a winning formula honestly. |
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Quoted: Indeed. So many people willing to turn on us simply due to demeanor, and not policy. No President should be allowed to serve without the prerequisite number of "likes" in FB, right? Policies be damned -- we want feels! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pretty much. Between his ego and his cult like support it was only a matter of time before he killed the GOP and gave the Democrats control for the next decade+. Indeed. So many people willing to turn on us simply due to demeanor, and not policy. No President should be allowed to serve without the prerequisite number of "likes" in FB, right? Policies be damned -- we want feels! Point of order; Trump had a ton of FB likes. Popularity is not something the man lacked. I heard him described as the "biggest loser in American history" today, which I found a comical assessment, seeing as he got the most votes for a Republican by a considerable margin (and similarly impressive going by various percentages). |
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Quoted: You should at least vote to keep them in at the state level. We need to defend Texas for as long as we can. No, they aren't what I want either, but you see what the Dems are doing at the national level. God help us if they take this state. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This is the only way I'll ever vote again. I'll never vote for a Republican again after the sickening display on the senate floor and their behavior in the days after. They made it clear they see us as working for THEM and not the other way around. They spit on us. You should at least vote to keep them in at the state level. We need to defend Texas for as long as we can. No, they aren't what I want either, but you see what the Dems are doing at the national level. God help us if they take this state. Oh yeah; state Speaker Bonnen Jr. is now appointing anti-gun Dems to key committee positions, just like the last traitor... Be sure to vote your Ovaltine. |
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