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Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:52:50 AM EST
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So if this guy was indeed a registered Dem, does that give credence to the idea he was antifa?
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:53:48 AM EST
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/moira-betts-b7b526101

This looks to be his mom. Address for the name is coming up the same.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:55:43 AM EST
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And the ATF gun running.

And IRS.

And......
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But you probably didn't think the Obungo administration would weaponize the IC to spy on an opposing
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And the ATF gun running.

And IRS.

And......
Nothing surprises anymore.....crazy or not.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:56:14 AM EST
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So if this guy was indeed a registered Dem, does that give credence to the idea he was antifa?
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Not at all. But the dem party has yet to condemn any of the actions of this group. Especially after the ICE attack or the antifa/dsa post supporting the attack.

Be careful thinking there might be a slight connection though.
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I'm old and had to look up "metalcore"

"Metalcore (or metallic hardcore ) is a fusion genre combining elements of extreme metal and hardcore punk, that originated in the late 1980s. Among other styles blending metal and hardcore, such as crust punk and grindcore, metalcore is noted for its use of breakdowns, which are slow, intense passages conducive to moshing. Other defining instrumentation includes heavy guitar riffs often utilizing percussive pedal tones and double bass drumming. Vocalists in the genre typically perform screaming, more popular bands often combine this with the use of standard singing, usually during the bridge or chorus of a song. However the death growl is also a popular technique within the genre."

Maybe I can find a new career as "lead growler"

I'm not sure that I'm familiar with any of their songs. Do they do covers? Maybe something like "The Girl from Ipanema"?
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Anyone lookup the hoodie was wearing in the one picture. A band called the acacia strain. Some real not very wholesome lyrics.
I have hung out in that area since the late 1980's on occasion. Always been a trendy/college area. Metaphysical/bong bullshit shops mixed with porn shops and popular bars. Definitely hippie, hipster, goth, and alternative lifestyle people in the area mixed with people just going down there to party and walk away from it. Nice area with not much trouble for the most part. Dayton is not a big gang city if at all but definitely not in that area. I feel very bad for everyone. Senseless.
Don't start with this nanny state  bullshit. Acacia strain are just another metalcore band among the hundreds of metalcore bands out there. Stop sounding like tipper gore.
I'm old and had to look up "metalcore"

"Metalcore (or metallic hardcore ) is a fusion genre combining elements of extreme metal and hardcore punk, that originated in the late 1980s. Among other styles blending metal and hardcore, such as crust punk and grindcore, metalcore is noted for its use of breakdowns, which are slow, intense passages conducive to moshing. Other defining instrumentation includes heavy guitar riffs often utilizing percussive pedal tones and double bass drumming. Vocalists in the genre typically perform screaming, more popular bands often combine this with the use of standard singing, usually during the bridge or chorus of a song. However the death growl is also a popular technique within the genre."

Maybe I can find a new career as "lead growler"

I'm not sure that I'm familiar with any of their songs. Do they do covers? Maybe something like "The Girl from Ipanema"?
Not sure what your point is here.

My point was the previous poster was stating their lyrics were kind of scary and mean and was channeling his inner Tipper Gore; insinuating that the lyrics made the shooter do it.

I was saying that Acacia Strain is your run of the mill metalcore band; nothing special about them to assume they influenced his behaviour.

That's some Columbine Marilyn Manson/80s heavy metal devil worship type of hysteria right there.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:57:38 AM EST
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People were on heavy doses of Valium, barbituates, amohetatmines and hard liquor from the 1950’s until the 1990’s.

The drug theory is a myth.

People have been drugged for a long time.
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I don't subscribe to the pill theory, convenient scape goat when millions upon millions take the drugs without being mass killers. The drugs you list from years past are worlds different from the basis of today's SSRIs in terms of modes of action in the brain.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:58:20 AM EST
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Details on the shooter

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

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Does the patch on his best say "Against all God's"? Sure looks like it.  Not sure what the other patch is.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:58:33 AM EST
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No, we can't give either guys credit of antifa. We also have to stop using these sites as credible sources.
We will never know the truth anyways with google scrubbing, and the FBI taking control.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:59:43 AM EST
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Per the Greene County Board of Elections Voter Lookup, Connor Betts is a Democrat. He pulled a Democrat ballot in both the 2016 and 2018 primary elections.

2250 Creekview Pl
Bellbrook, OH 45305

Per his LinkedIn, he's a Psychology major at Sinclair Community College in Dayton.
https://i.imgtc.ws/4rvLCnX.png
not surprising if true.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 10:59:54 AM EST
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We went through this yesterday with the other shooting.  Most of these sites are user editable.  You create an account, claim you are that person and then change whatever you want.

The information from yesterday kept changing political affiliations every other second.
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I just corrected a couple of the errors on the mylife information on me (I'm no longer listed as a registered democrat).  I didn't have to create an account or even tell them who I was.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:00:33 AM EST
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Not sure what your point is here.

My point was the previous poster was stating their lyrics were kind of scary and mean and was channeling his inner Tipper Gore; insinuating that the lyrics made the shooter do it.

I was saying that Acacia Strain is your run of the mill metalcore band; nothing special about them to assume they influenced his behaviour.

That's some Columbine Marilyn Manson/80s heavy metal devil worship type of hysteria right there.
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The only silver lining I see atm is that most hardcore guys I know are very far left. I'm crossing my fingers he is an antifa so it's not a black eye for us.

I'm not sure how the rest of the country is but conservatives probably make up less than 5% of the hardcore scene in California.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:00:36 AM EST
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So if this guy was indeed a registered Dem, does that give credence to the idea he was antifa?
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No more credence than if he was a registered Rep, he’s automatically a member of the Klan.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:00:51 AM EST
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Fox reporting a couple of the loons on the left are calling for congress to come back into session to do something. Sure, lets knee jerk.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:02:27 AM EST
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I just corrected a couple of the errors on the mylife information on me (I'm no longer listed as a registered democrat).  I didn't have to create an account or even tell them who I was.
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I have contacted them before to pull my profile. They actually did. this was years back before I went to SERE school.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:02:58 AM EST
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No more credence than if he was a registered Rep, he’s automatically a member of the Klan.
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So if this guy was indeed a registered Dem, does that give credence to the idea he was antifa?
No more credence than if he was a registered Rep, he’s automatically a member of the Klan.
It just means the MSM and democrats will focus on El Paso and ignore this one for the most part...…...
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:03:17 AM EST
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50 years of widespread divorce, single parent mom households raising children, permissive, "nurturing" discipline practices, modern progressive public schools staffed by teachers who weren't cut out for other professional fields now open to women, luxurious lifestyles that require little work/chores/responsibilities for children, childhood behavioral maintenance through prescription drugs, supervised/structured exposure to firearms though school and club-based marksmanship programs all but eliminated, glorification of violence in television, movies and video games, conditioning to violence through video games, self-esteem tied to success in video games that rewards progress with more advanced weapons supplied to video game characters, social isolation with actual interaction replaced by virtual interaction . . .

Yeah, this one is a mystery.
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What's harder is that why these shootings are happening now, when equally capable firearms could be ordered by mail before the 1968 Gun Control Act.  Hardening of hearts?  No respect for life?  Beyond me.
50 years of widespread divorce, single parent mom households raising children, permissive, "nurturing" discipline practices, modern progressive public schools staffed by teachers who weren't cut out for other professional fields now open to women, luxurious lifestyles that require little work/chores/responsibilities for children, childhood behavioral maintenance through prescription drugs, supervised/structured exposure to firearms though school and club-based marksmanship programs all but eliminated, glorification of violence in television, movies and video games, conditioning to violence through video games, self-esteem tied to success in video games that rewards progress with more advanced weapons supplied to video game characters, social isolation with actual interaction replaced by virtual interaction . . .

Yeah, this one is a mystery.
And a 24/7 news cycle that pushes an agenda and gives these fucked up 16-24 year olds all these great ideas on how to "get even" or "make an immediate impact". That's the match to all the fuel you've listed.

Go ahead and ban guns. Me and my guns haven't killed anybody and I won't comply anyway. But you're not going to stop these crazy fucks from killing people. They'll still do it. Knives, poison, fire, bombs...they'll find a way. The MSM keeps beating that drum....
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:04:09 AM EST
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Fox reporting a couple of the loons on the left are calling for congress to come back into session to do something. Sure, lets knee jerk.
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Come back into session and address mental illness and how most facilities that used to deal with this are all but closed down and instead of trying to address mental illness all that seems to be done is just above pills down people's throats and send them on their way.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:04:37 AM EST
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The election is over a year out. Dem strategists (smart ones anyway) don’t want an energized right base. These events will have the dem candidates tripping over each other to be the most anti-gun when they’d be better off not making that a central issue.

If you were coordinating false flags to turn an election you’d want to be a lot closer. Think Comey re-opening the Clinton investigation.

ETA That’s my opinion, anyway.
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I think they need events to push legislation.

If legislation passes, they win, plus GOP base will be unhappy and turnout suppressed.

If they lose, they capitalize on more events next summer/fall and use those events to beat up on GOP candidates. ("You could have prevented this if you had passed our legislation")

Look who now controls the House and what gets voted on.

Were these recent events planned or coordinated by some unknown entity? Who knows. Highly unlikely, although seeing how patsies have been pushed to plan or do stuff in the past, not completely impossible. I think these were unconnected. Just losers, probably medicated, raised in an atmosphere with hyperviolent games, music etc available. Little or no real-world social contact reinforces it.

There were kids in high school and college eons ago who we thought were way out there, but there were far fewer, if any violent pastimes of the kind we see today. Alice Cooper was weird and fun, but we didn't want to go out and kill people after listening to him, or Ozzy or a bunch of others. Charles Manson was condemned as a madman instead of celebrated by the media. People that self-identified as turnips were not idolized as "avant-garde".
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:05:41 AM EST
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It'll be interesting if his case disappears quicker than the El Paso case.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:06:07 AM EST
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This is just too crazy.

Me and my lady ate in the Oregon District on Friday night.

This maniac probably made us food while employed at the Centerville Chipotle. We've eaten there a bunch of times in the last couple years.

So far, no one that I know was a victim of this. Still waiting to hear back from a couple people
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:06:35 AM EST
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not surprising if true.
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https://greene.ohioboe.com/apps/vtrpolldetails.aspx?idnum=212004
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:07:45 AM EST
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I have contacted them before to pull my profile. They actually did. this was years back before I went to SERE school.
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I just corrected a couple of the errors on the mylife information on me (I'm no longer listed as a registered democrat).  I didn't have to create an account or even tell them who I was.
I have contacted them before to pull my profile. They actually did. this was years back before I went to SERE school.
I have considered that, but am reluctant to provide them with any more 'confirmed' information by contacting them.  From some of the 'free background check' sites, my ex-wife seems to be their biggest data source linked to me.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:08:39 AM EST
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Who were most of the victims?  If they are minorities expect the MSM to 24/7 the sensation.
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If he studied psychology, then he was probably a closet psycho trying to cure himself.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:10:38 AM EST
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Carter and Reagan shut them down.
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Whatever happened to asylums? I'm 32, I don't know other than they used to exist and at some point between the 70's and 90's they disappeared.
Carter and Reagan shut them down.
The left and the right agreed on something. The left thought you asylums were mean and the right felt the asylums were too expensive.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:11:03 AM EST
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Who were most of the victims?  If they are minorities expect the MSM to 24/7 the sensation.
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May be some but my guess is almost all white. Frequented by white people for the good food and bars and bands.

My wife and I go down there multiple times a month.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:11:17 AM EST
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In the picture at this website, he is wearing a patch that says, "Against all Gods".

Is he an Athiest, Lefty?

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:11:32 AM EST
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Lol. Where do you think people posting here will be getting their info?
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Oh Jesus. I read through as much as I could and didn’t see a name of the terrorist. What do we have yet? We know we cannot rely on media sources.
Lol. Where do you think people posting here will be getting their info?
If you read the El Paso thread you will learn much young Padawan. The resources that our site can draw upon at times like these is immense. Again, you will find the answer you seek on the other mass shooting thread. Unfortunately the media lock down machine has refined their processes since yesterday so the information does NOT get out.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:12:33 AM EST
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All of these incidents at the same time- feels like an attack against America.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:13:15 AM EST
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Details on the shooter

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

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Of note: Heavy.com is ALWAYS the first website to have 'information' on all of these characters.......
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:14:38 AM EST
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Prayers for those affected.  
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:15:25 AM EST
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his Dad has this as a like on FB

Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:15:37 AM EST
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Perhaps he got a phone call out of the blue where he heard the words "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."  He was then activated.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:16:39 AM EST
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his Dad has this as a like on FB

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Anything on his mom or sisters fb? Moira betts and megan betts.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:16:39 AM EST
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DUPED. OOPS.
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I keep hearing in the media how nice this entertainment district is.  But the still photos I have seen of this bar makes it like really sketchy.  Like "I'm not going into that place" sketchy.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:18:18 AM EST
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Perhaps he got a phone call out of the blue where he heard the words "The woods are lovely, dark and deep. But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep, And miles to go before I sleep."  He was then activated.
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fictional scenario, but, interesting to consider.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:18:30 AM EST
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Details on the shooter

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

The LinkedIn page identifies Betts as a psychology student at Sinclair Community College.
Of note: Heavy.com is ALWAYS the first website to have 'information' on all of these characters.......
But not that hes a registered democrat, interesting.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:18:33 AM EST
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May be some but my guess is almost all white. Frequented by white people for the good food and bars and bands.

My wife and I go down there multiple times a month.
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Which means after some sensation, the Ohio shooting will disappear from the headlines and the el paso shootings will get all the headlines and sensation, since minorities were among the victims.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:19:14 AM EST
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First, you have your classes of medicines mixed up. Second, a large percentage of Americans take the meds you listed.

If these meds caused violence, we would have acts of violence all over America at rates we’ve never seen. Violence would literally occur virtually everywhere, and it would be non-stop. It would have been occurring at that rate for over two decades.

Instead, what we see are acts committed by people who should be on strong meds but aren’t. If they’re on meds, the meds weren’t strong enough.
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We aren't seeing widespread violence, but we're seeing an uptick in a very specific set of outlier type crimes.  So the drugs work for most people most of the time in moderating their behavior, taking the peaks off of the highs and shallowing the valleys of the lows, and keeping the typical person under typical dosing from having a break under most conditions.

Would it really be that outlandish to say there's 1 in 10 million people that the drugs don't correctly work for, and while moderating their tendencies, when the break happens the break is BIG since they haven't been able to properly deal with their stressors?

The idea that without whatever drug, Johnny and Jimmy like to set trash cans on fire and get in a fight at school from time to time.  They both get put on meds to "correct" their behaviors, and now they're focused at school and not engaging in the petty destructive behaviors they were before so everything "worked", but now that there aren't these outlets for their stressors Jimmy is fine, but Johnny's keeps building and building and instead of having a minor break and getting into a fight, he has a major break and murders someone/shoots up a school/drives a van through a crowd.
Link Posted: 8/4/2019 11:19:35 AM EST
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/breakingnews/el-paso-walmart-rampage-marks-250th-mass-shooting-in-215-days/ar-AAFiVAh?ocid=spartanntp

El Paso Walmart rampage marks 250th mass shooting in 215 days

The gunfire that tore through a Walmart jammed with back-to-school shoppers on Saturday marked another bleak milestone in a nation pocked by gun violence: the 250th mass shooting of 2019. And the rampage in El Paso, which left 20 dead and 26 injured, notched an even darker statistic: It occurred on the 215th day of the year, meaning there have been more mass shootings than days so far this year. The massacre at the Walmart near the Cielo Vista Mall became the nation's latest mass shooting as defined by the Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit organization that provides online public access to information about gun-related violence. The archive categorizes mass shootings as incidents in which four or more people were shot or killed, not including the shooters. So far this year, 522 people have died in mass shootings and 2,040 have been injured, according to the data.

The incident also came in a particularly painful week: Two people were shot and killed at a Walmart store in Southaven, Mississippi, south of Memphis on Tuesday, and three people were killed by gunfire Sunday at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in northern California. Early Sunday, police said that at least nine people were killed and 16 others injured in a mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio, less than 24 hours following the El Paso massacre. And it follows two other high-profile shootings earlier this year. A longtime city worker opened fire in a building that houses Virginia Beach government offices on May 31, killing 12 before he was gunned down by police.

On Feb. 15, an employee at a manufacturing plant in Aurora, Illinois, opened fire during a disciplinary meeting where he was dismissed. He wounded one other employee and five of the first police officers to arrive at the suburban Chicago plant before he was killed during a shootout with police.
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I keep hearing in the media how nice this entertainment district is.  But the still photos I have seen of this bar makes it like really sketchy.  Like "I'm not going into that place" sketchy.
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Its not nice. A few of the restaurants are upscale(for the area) delicious eateries. The bars are mostly dumps but some have really great food which attracts a lot of people. Its a good time down there.
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Does the patch on his best say "Against all God's"? Sure looks like it.  Not sure what the other patch is.
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It does. Anyone know what that references? Obviously I've Googled it, but haven't found anything specific.
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I'm going with this:  Most likely not Deep State activated mkultra robots, just idiots that see what the Christchurch shooter managed to accomplish as far as gun laws go, and they're bored incel losers that martyr themselves, or possibly weakly connected by sites like 4chan.
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Is his name Connor or Connors? For voting, that info must be accurate. Or is it Connor S. Betts?
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I'm going with this:  Most likely not Deep State activated mkultra robots, just idiots that see what the Christchurch shooter managed to accomplish as far as gun laws go, and they're bored incel losers that martyr themselves, or possibly weakly connected by sites like 4chan.
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All of these incidents at the same time- feels like an attack against America.
I'm going with this:  Most likely not Deep State activated mkultra robots, just idiots that see what the Christchurch shooter managed to accomplish as far as gun laws go, and they're bored incel losers that martyr themselves, or possibly weakly connected by sites like 4chan.
There’s definitely more to the El Paso shooting. The Ohio one? Not sure.
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Yes, and it was continuously piped through his ear protection via microwave emanating from the blue van parked just down the street, with 3 guys inside that have rancid coffee breath and need to take a piss....
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I keep hearing in the media how nice this entertainment district is.  But the still photos I have seen of this bar makes it like really sketchy.  Like "I'm not going into that place" sketchy.
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It's actually a pretty decent area. There are some really good restaurants we frequent down there.
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