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How have I never heard of this. Will have to check out the original, based on this thread.
Back under my rock for now... |
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Listen, I’m not really a fan of anime, but when it’s good, it’s good. If it’s good, then it doesn’t need a live action, big-budget, western adaptation.
Cowboy Bebop was great on its own merits and doesn’t need to be legitimized. |
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It’s going to be a shit show.
They couldn’t even find an actress with tits… |
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Quoted: So, a Korean, black guy and a Mexican walk into a bar? (I'm another anime virgin so guess I'll have to watch the original, looks like fun gun play and M79s) View Quote The series is incredible, it's very western in style, and it's not likely that anyone who didn't know would peg it as stereotypical anime (if they weren't an anime fan anyway). If bounty hunters in space, evil space governments creating experimental supersoldiers, and crime syndicates sounds like an interesting hook, it has it. |
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They will screw it up like they did the Witcher with bad casting and diversity/wokeness. Oops, looks like they did already.
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Quoted: Came in to see what the fuck a Cowboy Bepop was and now I see why I didn't know. I will say Anime Faye's titties has me slightly aroused. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I really need to rewatch the anime. It's been a decade or two. Trigun too. Came in to see what the fuck a Cowboy Bepop was and now I see why I didn't know. I will say Anime Faye's titties has me slightly aroused. I have always felt even those who don't like anime can get into Cowboy Bebop. Watch this, it's from mid series and doesn't give away much and pretty much covers the feel of the series but if you like it then you may want to give the whole thing a try. Failed To Load Title |
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For you guys who think Spike was miscast because they picked an Asian, the animation character design was based on this actor, in this role.
Attached File "His appearance was primarily based on the main protagonist of Tantei Monogatari, Shunsaku Kudo, portrayed by famous Japanese actor Yusaku Matsuda." "In Volume 3 of the manga, Cowboy Bebop, story by Hajime Yatate and illustrated by Yutaka Nanten, a trucker describes Spike as Asian using an outdated term." https://cowboybebop.fandom.com/wiki/Spike_Spiegel#Appearance Jett is ambiguous. I always assumed he was mixed-race, with some black in there. Faye should be Chinese, she was born in Singapore. But she's obviously mixed-race as well, since her eyes are green. In this future, the Earth is a wreck. People spread out into the solar system and there was a lot of genetic blending going on. So, griping about the race of the actors is pretty lame. Bitch about their physicality not matching, sure. But most human beings aren't shaped like anime characters. |
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I am firmly in the "Please don't fuck this up" camp but don't have an over abundance of hope.
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Want to post the last scene of Spike...but there are people who have not seen it and don't want to spoil it for them.
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Quoted: Quoted: What happened to Faye's tits? https://kawaii-mobile.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Cowboy-Bebop.Faye-Valentine-Huawei-U9500-1-Ascend-D1-wallpaper.720x1280-1.jpg They probably made her non-binary Netflix ruins everything. |
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Quoted: For you guys who think Spike was miscast because they picked an Asian, the animation character design was based on this actor, in this role. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74363/3cae1ad69939672dee7c08cafbaa6e52_jpg-2064290.JPG "His appearance was primarily based on the main protagonist of Tantei Monogatari, Shunsaku Kudo, portrayed by famous Japanese actor Yusaku Matsuda." "In Volume 3 of the manga, Cowboy Bebop, story by Hajime Yatate and illustrated by Yutaka Nanten, a trucker describes Spike as Asian using an outdated term." https://cowboybebop.fandom.com/wiki/Spike_Spiegel#Appearance Jett is ambiguous. I always assumed he was mixed-race, with some black in there. Faye should be Chinese, she was born in Singapore. But she's obviously mixed-race as well, since her eyes are green. In this future, the Earth is a wreck. People spread out into the solar system and there was a lot of genetic blending going on. So, griping about the race of the actors is pretty lame. Bitch about their physicality not matching, sure. But most human beings aren't shaped like anime characters. View Quote I dont expect anyone to look like anime characters but the guy in your photo has that lanky look, as well as that really casual effortless look. If you look at the movie poster from the animated version it looks like they are all in a police lineup/ booking photo and don't give a fuck. Where the main pic from the live action one has them walking ein with a purpose like they are going to save the world or some shit. Individually all these little nitpicks are just that but taken as a whole you get the impression that the creators didn't even watch the animated series and simply don't get it. The character races were probably the nitpick i care about the least and kind of fit anyway but again just adds to the general sense of this is just too far off the mark. We'll see I'd be happy to be proven wrong and be regalled with exquisite acting and a truly artistic sense of cinematography but i have doubts. |
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Quoted: I have always felt even those who don't like anime can get into Cowboy Bebop. Watch this, it's from mid series and doesn't give away much and pretty much covers the feel of the series but if you like it then you may want to give the whole thing a try. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Me2Fa0BWOc View Quote This, I don’t consider myself an anime fan at all, but I love Cowboy Bebop and consider it one of the best series (animated or live action) of all time. It’s just about perfect in its original format. That scene is my favorite BTW. |
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Quoted: Remember that episode with the clarinet player, who was addicted to drugs that gave him tits? Yeah, that’s going to be a major thing in this series. The series had a built-in tranny, I seriously would bet that was a selling by point to Netflix View Quote I was just thinking that. His name was Gren, I think. Though I thought the boobies were because of forced medical experiments in prison. |
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/a/ and /k/ join forces to confiscate and dispose of scripts, story boards, and other materials related to the heresy that Netflix has perpetrated against the Cowboy Bebop fandom, 2021.
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Spike being Asian just seems... odd. He doesn't look Asian at all in the anime. They gonna make Vicious Asian too? Or some other random minority? I'll pass.
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Quoted: For you guys who think Spike was miscast because they picked an Asian, the animation character design was based on this actor, in this role. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/74363/3cae1ad69939672dee7c08cafbaa6e52_jpg-2064290.JPG "His appearance was primarily based on the main protagonist of Tantei Monogatari, Shunsaku Kudo, portrayed by famous Japanese actor Yusaku Matsuda." "In Volume 3 of the manga, Cowboy Bebop, story by Hajime Yatate and illustrated by Yutaka Nanten, a trucker describes Spike as Asian using an outdated term." https://cowboybebop.fandom.com/wiki/Spike_Spiegel#Appearance Jett is ambiguous. I always assumed he was mixed-race, with some black in there. Faye should be Chinese, she was born in Singapore. But she's obviously mixed-race as well, since her eyes are green. In this future, the Earth is a wreck. People spread out into the solar system and there was a lot of genetic blending going on. So, griping about the race of the actors is pretty lame. Bitch about their physicality not matching, sure. But most human beings aren't shaped like anime characters. View Quote Failed To Load Title Looks like an awesome show. |
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Quoted: Now do Evangelion. View Quote Eva fans react to Netflix announcing live action Neon Genesis: Evangelion, colorized, 2022. Attached File |
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Quoted: Spike being Asian just seems... odd. He doesn't look Asian at all in the anime. They gonna make Vicious Asian too? Or some other random minority? I'll pass. View Quote What are you talking about? Spike and Vicious both work for a Chinese mafia group and Spike looks like Bruce Lee in all of his fight scenes. Spike and Jet almost always eat Chinese or Japanese food (when they have food) on the Bebop. Chinese culture is clearly widespread on Mars and several other colonies. I am of the opinion (like several others here) that most, if not all of the crew of the Bebop are mixed race due to the nature of the future they live in. The only character that may be strictly "white" is Ed but given her absurd name, she may be have a mixed ancestry too. |
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Quoted: No. Live action anime adaptations don’t work. The fact that they are cartoons allows the suspension of disbelief required for most of their stories to work. Live action fucks that all up. View Quote It's not even that. Anytime there's an "adaption", they use it as an excuse to fuck with everything. They fuck with the story. The plot lines. The character arcs. The character persona. The race. The gender. Anything they can fuck with, they fuck with. So you end up with a fuck up. Every producer/writer/director under the sun that gets an adaption thinks they're fucking Shakespear and has to rewrite the production in their own image, and it's always a disaster. |
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Quoted: What are you talking about? Spike and Vicious both work for a Chinese mafia group and Spike looks like Bruce Lee in all of his fight scenes. Spike and Jet almost always eat Chinese or Japanese food (when they have food) on the Bebop. Chinese culture is clearly widespread on Mars and several other colonies. I am of the opinion (like several others here) that most, if not all of the crew of the Bebop are mixed race due to the nature of the future they live in. The only character that may be strictly "white" is Ed but given her absurd name, she may be have a mixed ancestry too. View Quote Yes, because no white boy ever enjoyed Chinese or Japanese food. And anime is full of fish out of water, random western or Asian transplants in settings they don't seem to fit in. Look at Naruto, the blondest, whitest kid on the block in an ancient Japan-ish continent full of ninja. He looks nothing like anyone else in the series save his father. Gonna cast him as Korean too? Get the fuck outta here. |
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Quoted: Odd. I just skimmed through IMDB and couldn't find Edward. View Quote Possibly written out. Much as Bebop will be a horrible live action, trying to cast a character that was even a little true to Ed's antics would be very annoying in live action. They'd instead go for know it all kid genius who is always right instead of the nutty and zany weirdo that Ed was. |
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Quoted: Yes, because no white boy ever enjoyed Chinese or Japanese food. And anime is full of fish out of water, random western or Asian transplants in settings they don't seem to fit in. Look at Naruto, the blondest, whitest kid on the block in an ancient Japan-ish continent full of ninja. He looks nothing like anyone else in the series save his father. Gonna cast him as Korean too? Get the fuck outta here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What are you talking about? Spike and Vicious both work for a Chinese mafia group and Spike looks like Bruce Lee in all of his fight scenes. Spike and Jet almost always eat Chinese or Japanese food (when they have food) on the Bebop. Chinese culture is clearly widespread on Mars and several other colonies. I am of the opinion (like several others here) that most, if not all of the crew of the Bebop are mixed race due to the nature of the future they live in. The only character that may be strictly "white" is Ed but given her absurd name, she may be have a mixed ancestry too. Yes, because no white boy ever enjoyed Chinese or Japanese food. And anime is full of fish out of water, random western or Asian transplants in settings they don't seem to fit in. Look at Naruto, the blondest, whitest kid on the block in an ancient Japan-ish continent full of ninja. He looks nothing like anyone else in the series save his father. Gonna cast him as Korean too? Get the fuck outta here. Yeah plenty of blue, purple and pink haired school girls at Japanese schools in animes too. What race are you saying they should be? Hair color doesn't mean shit in anime, all Japanese have naturally black hair. Even they know that this makes for boring character design so they mix it up, even if the characters are Japanese. Also, I didn't say I approved of the casting of Spike. I certainly can't say I thought of the guy as Korean and I don't care for that actor. I always figured Spike was of Jewish and Chinese or Japanese background. |
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Quoted: Yeah plenty of blue, purple and pink haired school girls at Japanese schools in animes too. What race are you saying they should be? Hair color doesn't mean shit in anime, all Japanese have naturally black hair. Even they know that this makes for boring character design so they mix it up, even if the characters are Japanese. Also, I didn't say I approved of the casting of Spike. I certainly can't say I thought of the guy as Korean and I don't care for that actor. I always figured Spike was of Jewish and Chinese or Japanese background. View Quote He should be whatever race at least makes him look similar to the character in the Anime. John Cho looks nothing like him. Tall, wire thin, lanky ass mofo is probably gonna have to be a white boy. |
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They should have cast a guy who would look like spike, rather than just casting some Asian guy. I don't recall really ever thinking of Spike as an Asian guy. He doesn't look Asian in the show. I could go with tall lanky mixed guy, but this dude just looks like a guy cosplaying as Spike, and not like, "Oh, that IS spike!" Like for instance, Henry Cavill IS the Witcher, he was made for the roll. They needed to cast someone who is the embodiment of Spike, and that is more than the outfit.
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Quoted: He should be whatever race at least makes him look similar to the character in the Anime. John Cho looks nothing like him. Tall, wire thin, lanky ass mofo is probably gonna have to be a white boy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yeah plenty of blue, purple and pink haired school girls at Japanese schools in animes too. What race are you saying they should be? Hair color doesn't mean shit in anime, all Japanese have naturally black hair. Even they know that this makes for boring character design so they mix it up, even if the characters are Japanese. Also, I didn't say I approved of the casting of Spike. I certainly can't say I thought of the guy as Korean and I don't care for that actor. I always figured Spike was of Jewish and Chinese or Japanese background. He should be whatever race at least makes him look similar to the character in the Anime. John Cho looks nothing like him. Tall, wire thin, lanky ass mofo is probably gonna have to be a white boy. Yeah, I agree there. Though, someone posted a video of the guy Spike's design is based off of, so it looks like there are Japanese guys who have the look too. I am going to guess that Netflix only cast Cho to have a "big name" headlining it. They didn't really care about anything but that and considering how "woke" they are, they'd never cast a white actor even if they could get a well known white actor. Also, the fact that Edward is not in it makes me think that all of the humor will be gone and it will only focus on the serious story lines. This show is going to suck. |
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Quoted: What are you talking about? Spike and Vicious both work for a Chinese mafia group and Spike looks like Bruce Lee in all of his fight scenes. Spike and Jet almost always eat Chinese or Japanese food (when they have food) on the Bebop. Chinese culture is clearly widespread on Mars and several other colonies. I am of the opinion (like several others here) that most, if not all of the crew of the Bebop are mixed race due to the nature of the future they live in. The only character that may be strictly "white" is Ed but given her absurd name, she may be have a mixed ancestry too. View Quote As someone that’s actually half Asian, I don’t think any of the main characters of Cowboy Bebop look even half Asian. Maybe that’s an anime thing, making the characters look Caucasian. I don’t know, the only anime I watch are Bebop and GITS and most of the main characters in both look Caucasian to me. Jet Black could be black, but I’d say he could be white or black, or mixed. I always felt he was white for some reason. Either way, that dorky looking guy playing Spike is a shitty casting choice, and the live action Faye is no where near hot enough. Jet seems to be the best match, but way too dark complexion. |
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Quoted: It's my favorite too, and I hope this helps, but they're not going to kill it. It's still there in its original format whenever you want. Just like those 2.5 good star wars movies. And that one Highlander movie. And that one Matrix movie. Allegedly these aren't going to be remade episodes, but brand new ones. Which at least keeps it away from the original stuff. Though the only reason I would have tuned in was to watch Mushroom Samba or Pierrot Le Fou's ridiculous triple kick. Probably can't resist the soundtrack if Yoko Kanno is in though. View Quote |
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My awareness of Cowboy Bebop consists of being able to remember hearing the words Cowboy Bebop.
I don't actually want to know anything about it because spoilie. |
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Quoted: As someone that's half Asian, I don't think any of the main characters of Cowboy Bebop look even half Asian. Maybe that's an anime thing, making the characters look Caucasian. I don't know, the only anime I watch are Bebop and GITS and most of the main characters in both look Caucasian to me. Jet Black could be black, but I'd say he could be white or black, or mixed. I always felt he was white for some reason. Either way, that dorking looking guy playing Spike is a shitty casting choice, and the live action Faye is no where near hot enough. Jet seems to be the best match, but way too dark complexion. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What are you talking about? Spike and Vicious both work for a Chinese mafia group and Spike looks like Bruce Lee in all of his fight scenes. Spike and Jet almost always eat Chinese or Japanese food (when they have food) on the Bebop. Chinese culture is clearly widespread on Mars and several other colonies. I am of the opinion (like several others here) that most, if not all of the crew of the Bebop are mixed race due to the nature of the future they live in. The only character that may be strictly "white" is Ed but given her absurd name, she may be have a mixed ancestry too. As someone that's half Asian, I don't think any of the main characters of Cowboy Bebop look even half Asian. Maybe that's an anime thing, making the characters look Caucasian. I don't know, the only anime I watch are Bebop and GITS and most of the main characters in both look Caucasian to me. Jet Black could be black, but I'd say he could be white or black, or mixed. I always felt he was white for some reason. Either way, that dorking looking guy playing Spike is a shitty casting choice, and the live action Faye is no where near hot enough. Jet seems to be the best match, but way too dark complexion. Osamu Tezuka, the guy responsible for inventing the Japanese style originated the style with the idea of making the race of characters ambiguous. So, it is a given that the race of a character can be hard to tell just by their design in Japanese anime. As a result, you kind of have to use context clues. For instance all of the main cast of GITS have Japanese names and work for a secret Japanese government agency. So you can assume that they are all supposed to be Japanese unless otherwise stated. |
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