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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:20:04 PM EST
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Is the government just blatantly disregarding the Constitution's guarantee of a speedy trial? Or did the arrestees, for some reason, waive that right?
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:31:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I was that guy, I would take whatever steps necessary to get me and my family out of this country to a non-extradition country. At the point of forfeiting your family and spending years of your life wasting in a prison because of some exaggerated political bullshit, fuck sticking around. This, I would be gone. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:32:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If only there were someone who collected One Hundred Million Dollars in "contributions" that would use even just a bit of that to help out the legal defense of all those political prisoners'. Very Sad for them & for their families. BIGGER_HAMMER  The money would be wasted and those prisoners would still go to prison. Any more suggestions? |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:40:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt the letter is real. Flame me. It's real. I felt the same while it was happening. I didn't leave my wife and kids though. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:47:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Nixon was pardoned. Draft dodgers were pardoned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So, "FACTS" are "Arrogance"?? But tell us, what exactly in that statement was NOT Correct? Did Trump Pardon any of the January 6th folks before he left office? Did Trump Spend a Penny to help any of the January 6th folks after he left office? Guess your mantra is "Ignorance is Bliss"... You'll stick you head where ever you won't have to face the Actual Truth. https://thoughtcatalog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/headupass.jpg?w=786 Keep on living that life Vapid_Wisp! BIGGER_HAMMER  No. Nixon was pardoned. Draft dodgers were pardoned. The circumstances and situations of those pardons are entirely different. Not even remotely the same. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:49:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct - President Ford Pardoned Former President Nixon for any and all crimes (unnamed) President Carter Pardoned the Draft Dodgers who left the country or went "underground" to avoid Vietnam Service. (didn't have to name them each and all - Blanket Pardon) Had Trump WANTED to, he could have helped the January 6th people then with a Pardon before he left office IF Trump WANTED to, he could this instant help the January 6th people with legal aid for their defense & financial support for their families. The ABILITY to help those people was there (pardon) & still is there (financial assistance), but sadly not the Fiber nor Back Bone to do so ... BIGGER_HAMMER Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No. Nixon was pardoned. Draft dodgers were pardoned. Correct - President Ford Pardoned Former President Nixon for any and all crimes (unnamed) President Carter Pardoned the Draft Dodgers who left the country or went "underground" to avoid Vietnam Service. (didn't have to name them each and all - Blanket Pardon) Had Trump WANTED to, he could have helped the January 6th people then with a Pardon before he left office IF Trump WANTED to, he could this instant help the January 6th people with legal aid for their defense & financial support for their families. The ABILITY to help those people was there (pardon) & still is there (financial assistance), but sadly not the Fiber nor Back Bone to do so ... BIGGER_HAMMER Incorrect. Any kind of help these prisoners got at this stage would be futile and a waste of resources. A pardon will be granted if Trump is reelected. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 3:51:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This my beef. Trump could have blanket pardoned all of them, but didn't. Why not? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it a "Bad Thing" to point out that a Politician collected ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS in "Contributions" and then has left his followers out to twist in the wind? A Politician, who actually had the Constitutional Power to give a Full Pardon to those involved in the January 6th Fiasco, instead skipped town and didn't do squat for "his people". One of the self described "Richest Men In America" who collected an additional ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS in "Contributions", but won't spend a single dime to help his faithful followers or their families? And some people still think that Politician is "The LEADER that America needs" ...  So Very Sorry that the FACTS hurtz your "Feelz" ... BIGGER_HAMMER This my beef. Trump could have blanket pardoned all of them, but didn't. Why not? Because Trump didn't have the time or the power to weed out the actual criminals involved vs. the nonviolent protesters that entered the Capitol. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:53:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just donate to Stop the Steal since Trump is using it to pay the legal fees of these morons. Oh, that's right. . . he isn't doing that at all. Glad you showed up to let us know how fair the system is and how Trump was the baddy. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 4:57:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Desantis is also not wasting time trash talking someone's mom or the other Trump absurdities. Instead he just gets shit done and has surrounded himself with people who get shit done. This. Desantis seems to understand. More than any other politician that I have seen. I would love to see him on the ballot. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 5:29:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad you showed up to let us know how fair the system is and how Trump was the baddy.  |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:02:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would personally like to see almost all police powers stripped from the federal government. The issue is that the January 6th people committed crimes on federal property, in and around a federal building in a federal district with federal jurisdiction. There is no world where these people would not have been prosecuted for what they did, and the fact that other people were not prosecuted in state and local courts that should have been doesn't change that fact. Trump even said they should be prosecuted. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/89439293-B4B2-4A6D-B0A1-1166699E3499-2411945.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Glad you showed up to let us know how fair the system is and how Trump was the baddy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/89439293-B4B2-4A6D-B0A1-1166699E3499-2411945.jpg They were justified. Trump is referring to violent offenders. |
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Posted: 6/14/2022 6:18:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were justified. Trump is referring to violent offenders. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Glad you showed up to let us know how fair the system is and how Trump was the baddy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/89439293-B4B2-4A6D-B0A1-1166699E3499-2411945.jpg They were justified. Trump is referring to violent offenders. |
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