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Posted: 11/1/2023 9:54:47 AM EST
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Tag for range report...
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:04:18 AM EST
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Quality thread - thanks for all the pics!
I want one.... |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:07:01 AM EST
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:07:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the reduction in velocity you would be better off with a 300 BO. Lighter gun, lighter ammo. Less recoil and noise. 308 needs a 16” barrel minimum. You are wrong. And that’s sad. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:13:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the reduction in velocity you would be better off with a 300 BO. Lighter gun, lighter ammo. Less recoil and noise. 308 needs a 16” barrel minimum. False. You're giving up 600 ft lbs of energy going 300 bo. Less powder if you're even pushing a similar bullet. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:13:26 AM EST
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Kind of want but will wait for a range report. I had a 16" Ruger SFAR that went back to the mother ship twice for accuracy issues. They wound up replacing the gun but I sold it instead of going down that rabbit hole again.
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:30:47 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More like copping Armalite AR-10. I wonder what gas length. This. I suspect the buffer is a standard length (and they opted for a longer RE) instead of a standard RE and the weird short buffers that DPMS used. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:39:43 AM EST
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Quoted:....BCG has some weird silver coating, not sure what it is but it's definitely not hard chrome: Looks like hard chrome to me. Hard chrome has a dull finish. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:40:55 AM EST
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:41:04 AM EST
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I would out a Magpul prs lite stock on there. Would be a perfect fit for that tube.
Now I want one. Guess I will wait and see what Black Friday brings. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:49:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would out a Magpul prs lite stock on there. Would be a perfect fit for that tube. Now I want one. Guess I will wait and see what Black Friday brings. UBR |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 10:55:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, I really don’t care what you think. It’s not your gun, so why are you so concerned about it? A short .308 is going to pack more of a punch than a BLK, all day every day and it’s not going to drop like a rock after 100 yards. I have one rifle chambered in .300AAC and a half dozen .308’s for a reason - the BLK sucks and with subs it’s even worse. Seriously lol. That guy wants so badly for someone to agree with him and justify his poor purchases. I almost got caught up in wanting a 300BLK because of how quiet it is, but after looking into it more...ballistics seem like they suck, especially with subs. Not worth the investment in a new caliber. Thanks for the thread, OP! These 13.7" Sabre 10s have really been staring at me lately And I'm not sure how much longer I can resist. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 11:03:02 AM EST
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I've been pleased with my 5.56 Sabre upper. Getting about 1.4 MOA with the AAC 75 gr match, and about 2.5 with PMC X-Tac.
Pretty decent for what it is, and only marginally less accurate than my DD. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 11:18:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Outstanding write-up! Mind if I plagiarize it when my PSA 16" mid-length rifle gets here today? https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/5/1/5165493400_1_2.jpg Sure |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 11:20:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And why get this addition when you already got a similar Ar10 with short barrel? No reason really, I just like new guns and I'm bored with small frame AR's .308 is a lot more fun to shoot |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 11:22:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s probably media blasted post chroming, based off the pictures. I don't know if blasting hard chrome will have any effect, it's extremely hard and abrasion resistant I could be totally wrong though |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 11:23:38 AM EST
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Quote HistoryYou're making me want a LPVO |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 11:39:14 AM EST
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So this is basically just a short PA-10?
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Posted: 11/1/2023 12:03:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So this is basically just a short PA-10? I guess? Not sure what the differences are between the PA-10 and Sabre 10 rifles |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 12:25:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Run it over a chronograph. You aren’t getting 2500fps out of a 150gr bullet out of a 13.7” barrel. Probably closer to 2300fps. IIRC, I get 2450 with FGMM 168 gr out of a 16" barrel. Also, this guy says something very similar... I'll bet it's well more than 2500. Another guy. |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 12:53:53 PM EST
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That's a good looking rifle. When they make one in 6.5 I'll be sorely tempted.
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Posted: 11/1/2023 5:47:54 PM EST
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For those of you who were wondering about the weight:
 Attached File9.4 lbs without the suppressor and magazine |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 5:51:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I suspect the buffer is a standard length (and they opted for a longer RE) instead of a standard RE and the weird short buffers that DPMS used. I used a LMT AR-15 tube on my 12.5”, it works fine with Slash’s CAR-10 buffer but his .308 buffers are the same size as standard AR-15 carbine buffers A longer buffer might be a problem in a short tube, I dunno for sure cause I’ve never tried it |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 5:53:30 PM EST
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9 positions tube? Wow
Looks like a nice gun! |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 5:55:06 PM EST
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I appreciate they pinned a suppressor mount
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Posted: 11/1/2023 5:55:50 PM EST
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9 positions is too many lol
I actually like the old Colt tubes that only had four positions with a big gap between positions 1 and 2 I’m either shooting it fully collapsed or fully extended depending on what I’m wearing |
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Posted: 11/1/2023 5:58:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 9 positions is too many lol I actually like the old Colt tubes that only had four positions with a big gap between positions 1 and 2 I’m either shooting it fully collapsed or fully extended depending on what I’m wearing I’d agree that even 6 is excessive |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 2:56:22 PM EST
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Had a chance to shoot it today, here are some targets
This was at 25 yards, I was getting the windage dialed in here:  Attached FileTook it out to 50 yards to adjust the elevation:  Attached FileThis was a 10-shot group at 100 yards:  Attached FileThese were all with an Aimpoint, shooting AAC 168gr SMK’s using the VFG as a monopod on the side of my truck bed. Not bad at all, I’m confident it will do better with an optic off a bench. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 2:58:41 PM EST
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Nice gun.......interested to hear how it shoots as I may be in the market for one
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:01:21 PM EST
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It shoots great, I didn’t even have to adjust the gas block
It was 7 clicks out from fully closed from the factory and that was the perfect setting for suppressed use with 168gr |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:21:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 9 positions is too many lol I actually like the old Colt tubes that only had four positions with a big gap between positions 1 and 2 I’m either shooting it fully collapsed or fully extended depending on what I’m wearing I wonder if a Vltor Emod would fully collapse? I have a couple of A5 setups and the Emod will fully collapse with them. Regular stocks will not and look just like yours. I normally shoot my rifles two positions out anyway, so no biggy. Good looking rifle with a lot of features! |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:32:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously lol. That guy wants so badly for someone to agree with him and justify his poor purchases. I almost got caught up in wanting a 300BLK because of how quiet it is, but after looking into it more...ballistics seem like they suck, especially with subs. Not worth the investment in a new caliber. Thanks for the thread, OP! These 13.7" Sabre 10s have really been staring at me lately And I'm not sure how much longer I can resist. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dude, I really don’t care what you think. It’s not your gun, so why are you so concerned about it? A short .308 is going to pack more of a punch than a BLK, all day every day and it’s not going to drop like a rock after 100 yards. I have one rifle chambered in .300AAC and a half dozen .308’s for a reason - the BLK sucks and with subs it’s even worse. Seriously lol. That guy wants so badly for someone to agree with him and justify his poor purchases. I almost got caught up in wanting a 300BLK because of how quiet it is, but after looking into it more...ballistics seem like they suck, especially with subs. Not worth the investment in a new caliber. Thanks for the thread, OP! These 13.7" Sabre 10s have really been staring at me lately And I'm not sure how much longer I can resist. Not at all. I own two AR-10’s. One with an 18” barrel and one with a 16” barrel. The velocity difference between those two is substantial. Never mind comparing them to my 24” Vanguard. If the 13.7” barrel is what OP wants then more power (actually less..) to him. 
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Posted: 11/3/2023 5:31:33 PM EST
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Get Slash's Heavy Buffer + a milspec extension if you want to collapse the stock.
Rig looks awesome.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 5:41:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d agree that even 6 is excessive Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 9 positions is too many lol I actually like the old Colt tubes that only had four positions with a big gap between positions 1 and 2 I’m either shooting it fully collapsed or fully extended depending on what I’m wearing I’d agree that even 6 is excessive 
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Posted: 11/3/2023 9:26:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Had a chance to shoot it today, here are some targets This was at 25 yards, I was getting the windage dialed in here: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/498043/IMG_9705_jpeg-3014606.JPG Took it out to 50 yards to adjust the elevation: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/498043/IMG_9704_jpeg-3014608.JPG This was a 10-shot group at 100 yards: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/498043/IMG_9706_jpeg-3014614.JPG These were all with an Aimpoint, shooting AAC 168gr SMK's using the VFG as a monopod on the side of my truck bed. Not bad at all, I'm confident it will do better with an optic off a bench.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 9:27:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: 9 positions is too many lol I actually like the old Colt tubes that only had four positions with a big gap between positions 1 and 2 I’m either shooting it fully collapsed or fully extended depending on what I’m wearing I’d agree that even 6 is excessive https://media.tenor.com/w_7Y38ld4r8AAAAC/ruby-rhod.gif  Ya apparently |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 9:53:13 PM EST
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lol at all the people offended by the OP’s rifle. Some of us like having options.
Nice stick OP! |
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Posted: 11/4/2023 1:43:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s weird, it looks nothing like the chrome on my Young Mfg carriers. It almost feels like it’s powder coated. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @797hp website states this..."Bolt Carrier Finish: Hard Chrome Finish" That’s weird, it looks nothing like the chrome on my Young Mfg carriers. It almost feels like it’s powder coated. weird, The rifle looks awesome! this post now has me wanting one pretty bad. 
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Posted: 11/4/2023 1:56:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For those of you who were wondering about the weight: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/498043/IMG_9694_jpeg-3012477.JPG 9.4 lbs without the suppressor and magazine Ok, but you said a suppressor will be on it 100% of the time, and when will you not have at least a 10 round magazine in it during use? Your data is flawed. |
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Posted: 11/4/2023 2:09:19 AM EST
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Nit. Picking.
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Posted: 11/4/2023 12:31:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, but you said a suppressor will be on it 100% of the time, and when will you not have at least a 10 round magazine in it during use? Your data is flawed. Cool story, Karen. People asked for the weight of the gun, not the weight of the gun with the silencer. I don’t even own any 10-round mags, you can go look up magazine weights on your own fucking time. Don’t like it? You should cry about it on the internet. Oh, wait… |
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Posted: 11/4/2023 1:40:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It shoots great, I didn't even have to adjust the gas block It was 7 clicks out from fully closed from the factory and that was the perfect setting for suppressed use with 168gr |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 11:25:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Relatively new to suppressed shooting. So far only on bolt gun. Adjusting gas block - is that for function or muzzle velocity? Maybe stupid question but it's one way to learn. Suppressors can increase back pressure This can result in overgassing and increased bolt carrier speed My 12.5” does not have an adjustable gas block and the carrier was cycling so fast, I was getting stovepipes because the case didn’t have enough time to fully exit the ejection port before the bolt slammed back into battery On that gun I had to install a BRT gas tube to restrict the gas, after that it cycles perfectly An adjustable gas block does the same thing, if your gun is over gassed with the suppressor you can dial it down to control the amount of gas entering the gas tube |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 11:31:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Outstanding write-up! Mind if I plagiarize it when my PSA 16" mid-length rifle gets here today? https://palmettostatearmory.com/media/catalog/product/cache/0423dea8e9791990cba1722182d60508/5/1/5165493400_1_2.jpg That is my favorite AR set up, got three of them. Light, handy, well balanced and superior gas length. |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 11:45:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, but you said a suppressor will be on it 100% of the time, and when will you not have at least a 10 round magazine in it during use? Your data is flawed. My turn to nitpick: The word "data" is plural for datum. Therefore, the correct sentences would be, "Your data are flawed," or "Your datum is flawed." |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 11:48:46 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My turn to nitpick: The word "data" is plural for datum. Therefore, the correct syntax would be, "Your data are flawed." lol That guy is a troll, he talks shit in every thread he posts in When a gun manufacturer lists the weight of one of their rifles, do they include a magazine? Yeah I didn’t think so |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 11:50:18 AM EST
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That is a fine looking rifle, OP.
Let us know how she performs. |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 11:52:20 AM EST
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I posted a few targets on this page
I could only take it to 100 yards, when I get a chance I’ll stretch it out to some longer distances |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 11:55:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Kind of want but will wait for a range report. I had a 16" Ruger SFAR that went back to the mother ship twice for accuracy issues. They wound up replacing the gun but I sold it instead of going down that rabbit hole again. what accuracy were you seeing that you sent it back? |
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Posted: 11/5/2023 12:06:03 PM EST
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Nice rifle op! Might give one of these a try
Maybe next time do a poll to see what the snowflakes want you to buy 
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