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Posted: 3/30/2017 12:57:13 PM EST
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We've managed to find the one thing that the government does better than the private sector. 
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Posted: 3/30/2017 1:46:37 PM EST
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Well considering that I do it about 3 times a week I could probably walk you through it step by step. But if you think you're being a hero by standing up for the felons that commit crimes for a profit then nothing I say is gonna convince you otherwise. Serious question...do you believe that a drug dealer that sells indiscriminately to any and everyone, including the police, should get to keep the money he makes from it or the car that he bought with that money? If you do then I applause you for standing your ground. But if you don't you may need to educate yourself before making statements about something you know nothing about Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do know who 99% of those assets are taken from right? I'll give you a hint, it's not from the people in the stories posted in GD that twist your panties. Serious question...do you believe that a drug dealer that sells indiscriminately to any and everyone, including the police, should get to keep the money he makes from it or the car that he bought with that money? If you do then I applause you for standing your ground. But if you don't you may need to educate yourself before making statements about something you know nothing about https://www.copblock.org/122541/police-seize-mans-life-savings-because-shopping-bag/ |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 4:10:32 PM EST
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This distinction is one only of semantics that doesn't have any bearing on the discussion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Except we run it civil too. If only GD would learn about the legal process. Weird that a court hearing where the government must prove a link to criminal activity is required is still inadequate. Not saying some places are criminal in what they do, but GD wants to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Instead of addressing those doing it illegally, let's outlaw a perfectly legal effective practice. Nothing like punishing the masses to address the few screw-ups. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 4:42:29 PM EST
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I've never had to forfeit anything to the police. Hmm maybe it's because I obey laws and shit? Yu guys worried about losing stuff should try it. You better. Remember this: The police are not your friends, they are not on your team, they see you as a target. They are as dangerous to your safety and financial well being as any violent street gang, and since they operate under the protection of the law you have no recourse and no hope for eventual justice. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:47:39 PM EST
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The police don't give a shit about whether or not you are a criminal. They care about your cash, and if they find it they will take it. Some police departments actually now issue a device which allows them to drain your credit and debit cards right on the side of the road. Don't like it? Refuse to sign over your cash and bank accounts or even your car? Go straight to jail with every charge they can invent slapped on you. And you can bet you'll be resisting arrest and assaulting an officer or two along the way. If you have your kids in the car, or are on a vacation, even better. Hand over your cash (and sign here please) or you go to jail and your kids go to the closest foster abuse center. You'll sign with a fucking smile if you know whats good for you, and you'll thank that hero in blue for keeping your family safe from dangerous street thugs. You better. Remember this: The police are not your friends, they are not on your team, they see you as a target. They are as dangerous to your safety and financial well being as any violent street gang, and since they operate under the protection of the law you have no recourse and no hope for eventual justice. 
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Posted: 3/30/2017 5:55:02 PM EST
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http://www.reddirtreport.com/prairie-opinions/oklahoma’s-i-40-has-been-asset-forfeiture-goldmine-local-law-enforcement |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 6:11:56 PM EST
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Plenty of people who followed the law had their stuff taken by police. You can read about it in this very thread.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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but that IS the penalty imposed by law  Hmm maybe it's because I obey laws and shit? Yu guys worried about losing stuff should try it.  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 6:16:30 PM EST
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Fuck criminals. But if criminals were the only people who got their assets taken this process is something the public would have never heard of. Sadly, that's not he case. |
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Posted: 3/30/2017 6:18:57 PM EST
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Run-of-the-mill burglars don't tend to steal horribly expensive stuff, or a lot of it. They're in and out with what they can carry.
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Civil asset forfeiture as currently practiced should be illegal. Assets should only be taken after a criminal conviction and then only for the value of the lawful fines/penalties imposed by law and/or the fair value of items stolen or destroyed by the convicted. If the crime harmed a citizen, all assets seized and fines/penalties should be given to that citizen or their family. Nothing in excess of that should be legal. |
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Posted: 4/1/2017 2:46:53 PM EST
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Which leaves me wondering why you felt the need to differentiate between the two. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Except we run it civil too. If only GD would learn about the legal process. Weird that a court hearing where the government must prove a link to criminal activity is required is still inadequate. Not saying some places are criminal in what they do, but GD wants to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Instead of addressing those doing it illegally, let's outlaw a perfectly legal effective practice. Nothing like punishing the masses to address the few screw-ups. |
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