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Link Posted: 12/18/2015 5:35:59 PM EST
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His book, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, is pretty good.

She was a willing tool for the powers that be, that taught the poor to appreciate their station in life.
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His book, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, is pretty good.

She was a willing tool for the powers that be, that taught the poor to appreciate their station in life.


Classy title by a classy unbiased source.
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 5:36:27 PM EST
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I have never heard this. I would think that with all the scrutiny she was under, this would be headline news.
 
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Fuck that bitch, if there's ever a hell may she be in the deepest and darkest and hottest part of it. For those who dont know, she used sick and near death patients and wouldn't let them have medical attention and use them for her PR & publicity stunt. Not to mention millions and millions of dollars in aid never reached the sick and poor she claimed to nurture and care for.



You really need to cite some credible proof on this that can be verified.


Yes, he does.

I have never heard this. I would think that with all the scrutiny she was under, this would be headline news.
 



Kusai is full of shit.
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 5:37:11 PM EST
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I think she really did a lot to help the poor, downtrod, and ill.

Her legacy was overshadowed and death forgotten due to the death of Princess Di One week earlier.

The American Idle crowd won out again.
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 5:38:26 PM EST
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Pope approved miracle...Yeah right....And people buy into that foolishness.  
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Fuck that bitch, if there's ever a hell may she be in the deepest and darkest and hottest part of it. For those who dont know, she used sick and near death patients and wouldn't let them have medical attention and use them for her PR & publicity stunt. Not to mention millions and millions of dollars in aid never reached the sick and poor she claimed to nurture and care for.



You really need to cite some credible proof on this that can be verified.


Yes, he does.

I have never heard this. I would think that with all the scrutiny she was under, this would be headline news.
 



Kusai is full of shit.


Sounds like you donated to her church and are butt hurt LMAO

take ur time to read this

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/daylightatheism/2008/05/mother-teresa/
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 5:39:22 PM EST
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Not this socialist commie pope.
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 5:40:36 PM EST
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His book, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, is pretty good.

She was a willing tool for the powers that be, that taught the poor to appreciate their station in life.
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His book, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, is pretty good.

She was a willing tool for the powers that be, that taught the poor to appreciate their station in life.


I take it that in your opinion, instead of providing aid and comfort, her order should have been agitators and, ummmm, community organizers.
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Sounds like you donated to her church and are butt hurt LMAO





take ur time to read this





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A 7 year old blog from an atheist website?


I was thinking something more credible.




 
 
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She cared more about converting people to her weird religion then she did about helping the poor or suffering.
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His book, The Missionary Position: Mother Teresa in Theory and Practice, is pretty good.

She was a willing tool for the powers that be, that taught the poor to appreciate their station in life.


I take it that in your opinion, instead of providing aid and comfort, her order should have been agitators and, ummmm, community organizers.


No she didn't even provide "aid and comfort". For her suffering (by others) was a noble virtue. Her hospitals, etc. just warehoused the poor and were just to give the appearance of "doing something".
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This is my smug,proud Catholic face looking at you....
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Where do you guys think all that money went? Because she sure wasn't spending it on improving conditions, providing medical care, or lessening suffering.



How can you really defend someone that thinks that poor people suffering is a good thing?
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His book, The Missionary aid and comfort". For her suffering (by others) was a noble virtue. Her hospitals, etc. just warehoused the poor and were just to give the appearance of "doing something".


They (the poor and sick) were free to leave or go else where, but they didn't. That ought to tell you something.
Virtually all Catholics view suffering as a noble virtue
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You know, I'm not catholic, and I have my issues with the religion, but I think the position of Pope should garner at least a bit of respect.
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No fucks given.....the idiot is coming here to the El Paso area, (Juarez  mx)to visit a prison then give a speech on immigration


Fuck him and his "approval"


You know, I'm not catholic, and I have my issues with the religion, but I think the position of Pope should garner at least a bit of respect.



I am Catholic and I agree with the first guy.
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 6:49:43 PM EST
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His book, The Missionary aid and comfort". For her suffering (by others) was a noble virtue. Her hospitals, etc. just warehoused the poor and were just to give the appearance of "doing something".


They (the poor and sick) were free to leave or go else where, but they didn't. That ought to tell you something.
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 You are a dirt poor Indian dying of TB.How many options do you have?

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 You are a dirt poor Indian dying of TB.How many options do you have?

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His book, The Missionary aid and comfort". For her suffering (by others) was a noble virtue. Her hospitals, etc. just warehoused the poor and were just to give the appearance of "doing something".


They (the poor and sick) were free to leave or go else where, but they didn't. That ought to tell you something.
Virtually all Catholics view suffering as a noble virtue




 You are a dirt poor Indian dying of TB.How many options do you have?

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I think it's widely known that those dirt poor Indian peasants loved her and it's probably because she gave them comfort among other things.
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I have never heard this. I would think that with all the scrutiny she was under, this would be headline news.



 
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She believed that suffering brought us closer to Jesus.















"Pain and suffering have come into your life, but remember pain, sorrow, suffering are but the kiss of Jesus - a sign that you have come so close to Him that He can kiss you.” - Mother Teresa


She wasn't concerned with reducing suffering, she wanted to bring people to Jesus.  











The biggest hits against her is that her charity only got about 7% of its money actually used to help the people in her hospices (not hospitals, she did not run hospitals).   I'm not sure that can be laid at her feet though, it isn't like she was in charge of the money.  Most of the money collected was used administratively or to fund missionary work.








Most of the negative attention is due to her hospices, which were substandard compared to ours.    They were light years ahead of dying in the gutter in Calcutta though.    

They also don't like her stance on abortion and contraception.


















 
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My Christianity is better than yours!
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 7:26:15 PM EST
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I suppose her imaginary friend was involved too.
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A lot of Christians believe that.    







The suffering Jesus went through on the cross led to our salvation and many Christians view suffering as a "cross to bear" that echoes of Jesus's sacrifice.







It is why people nail themselves to crosses, whip themselves, wear a cilice, etc...








It is one of the common answers to "why is there suffering".    It serves a purpose.    












 
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 7:32:21 PM EST
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I support the one on the left
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She'll make a great saint.
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Nope, the results are orders of magnitude different, positive, and real, and there are no intermediate approvers, conduits, or intercessories.  Protestant prayer is amazing like that.

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Nope, the results are orders of magnitude different, positive, and real, and there are no intermediate approvers, conduits, or intercessories.  Protestant prayer is amazing like that.





dat tie do
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Because of my work, I've been fortunate to have spent timewith many important/well known people.
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Without question, she was the most impressive
and memorable. This will be scoffed at, but there was
something about her that was inexplicably different than
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Had a co-worker who went to see her when she visited San Francisco.  He was with two big buddies. When she approached, they fell to their knees.  He doesn't know why as he had not intention of dropping but for some unexplained reason they couldn't stand.  She blessed each of them.
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No fucks given.....the idiot is coming here to the El Paso area, (Juarez  mx)to visit a prison then give a speech on immigration





Fuck him and his "approval"




You know, I'm not catholic, and I have my issues with the religion, but I think the position of Pope should garner at least a bit of respect.
I would normally tend to agree but he has poked his nose into things and made statements that kind of make him fair game.



 
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lol
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For all I know Mother Theresa threw kittens in a wood chipper, but there do seem to be people with an agenda looking to poop on her legacy. A guy who made the "dirty needles" claim wanted to start a competing charity. Maybe he saw dirty needles and was horrified, or maybe not. Who knows.

My wife still shudders at the mention of nuns all these years after catholic school so who knows lol
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I didn't say they were 100% correct.  They are just better than an Atheist website.

Seemed to give both sides of the issue.

For all I know Mother Theresa threw kittens in a wood chipper, but there do seem to be people with an agenda looking to poop on her legacy. A guy who made the "dirty needles" claim wanted to start a competing charity. Maybe he saw dirty needles and was horrified, or maybe not. Who knows.

My wife still shudders at the mention of nuns all these years after catholic school so who knows lol


Pics of wife in Catholic schoolgirl outfit?

(Don't ban me, bro )
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I think she really did a lot to help the poor, downtrod, and ill.

Her legacy was overshadowed and death forgotten due to the death of Princess Di One week earlier.

The American Idle crowd won out again.
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Link Posted: 12/18/2015 8:37:36 PM EST
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Well, at least they would be better than pics of Aimless in his Catholic school girl outfit.

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Pics of wife in Catholic schoolgirl outfit?

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Well, at least they would be better than pics of Aimless in his Catholic school girl outfit.



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Had a co-worker who went to see her when she visited San Francisco.  He was with two big buddies. When she approached, they fell to their knees.  He doesn't know why as he had not intention of dropping but for some unexplained reason they couldn't stand.  She blessed each of them.
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How's it working out for them?
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Well, at least they would be better than pics of Aimless in his Catholic school girl outfit.

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Pics of wife in Catholic schoolgirl outfit?

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Well, at least they would be better than pics of Aimless in his Catholic school girl outfit.



or his Sailor Moon outfit
Link Posted: 12/18/2015 8:40:28 PM EST
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She's no more a Saint than any other Born Again Christian. Simply a tradition of the Catholic church. They apparently don't study their Bible but take what the priest and pope a dope have to say about it. The Bible is full of contradictions to this fable.


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Saints [N]
The word "saint" is derived from a Greek verb (hagiazo [aJgiavzw]) whose basic meaning is "to set apart, " "sanctify, " or "make holy." In the history of the Old Testament religion, the idea of holiness or separateness was inherent in the concept of God. God was unapproachable in the tabernacle or temple by the ordinary individual, being accessible only to the priests and only under carefully specified conditions. His presence (the Shekinah) dwelled in the Holy of Holies or the Most Holy Place, the most remote and inaccessible place in the wilderness tabernacle and later in the Jerusalem temple. Only the high priest was allowed to stand in God's presence in this area, and then only once a year at Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement).

This sacred place was further separated from the ordinary Jewish worshiper by another room called "the Holy Place, " which could be entered only by priests. The intent was to impress upon the people the utter holiness and sacredness of the God they worshiped, as well as the necessity of their being set apart or sanctified as saints in his service. This sense of Jehovah's separateness from the sins of the people and from the pagan idols of the lands in which they dwelled was the heart of Jewish monotheism. Its eventual disregard led to the destruction of the temple and the exile of Israel.

This idea of the separateness of God and his people is carried forward in the New Testament, which was written by Jews (except possibly Luke-Acts) who interpreted God's covenant with Israel through the teachings of Christ. Those who were dedicated to the teachings of Christ were frequently called saints by these writers (e.g., Matt 27:52 ; Acts 9:13 ; 26:10 ; Rev 14:12 ). Six of Paul's letters to churches are addressed to saints (Romans, 1-2 Corinthians, Ephesians, Philippians, and Colossians).

Saints, in the New Testament, are never deceased individuals who have been canonized by the church and given sainthood. They are living individuals who have dedicated themselves to the worship and service of the one true God as revealed through his Son, Jesus Christ. Even the children of such parents are called "sanctified" ( 1 Cor 7:14-15 ). That is, they are considered undefiled by paganism if at least one of their parents is a Christian. All saved are sanctified, but not all sanctified are saved.

On occasion, when discussing the atonement, Paul carefully differentiates between Jewish Christians and Gentile Christians, calling the former saints and the latter believers. It was the saints, the holy people of God in the Old Testament, who brought the Messiah and redemption into the world, eventually extending the blessings to the Gentiles.

This usage may be seen in 1 Corinthians 1:2, which is addressed to "those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy [saintsJewish Christians], together with all those [Gentiles] everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus ChristLord and ours." The same distinction is made in Ephesians 1:1: "to the saints [Jewish Christians] in Ephesus and the faithful [Gentiles] in Christ Jesus." Colossians is also addressed to "the holy and faithful brothers" in Christ.

Paul addresses the letter to all the Christians in Rome as saints ( Rom 1:7 , because Gentiles who, as wild olive branches have been grafted into the stem of Judaism, now share in the full relationship to that plant and are also saints ), but the Jewish Christians in Rome, who are to be recipients of a special contribution Paul collected among Gentile churches, are called "the saints" in distinction ( Rom 15:25-33 ).

It is informative in this regard that Paul refers to this same collection in 2 Corinthians 8:1-4 as a sharing by the Macedonian churches with "the saints, " not with the "other" saints. Paul's apprehension over whether the Jerusalem saints would accept such a contribution was based on the fact that Jewish Christians were being asked to accept the offering from Gentile Christians. The entire discussion of the issue in Acts 21 when Paul arrived in Jerusalem makes this clear.

Thus, although Gentile Christians are saints, too, because they were given access to the faith of Abraham and the people of the Old Testament, when redemptive history is discussed the Jews are specially designated the "saints" while the Gentiles are considered believers who were later admitted into this "holy" Jewish nucleus.

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See also Christians, Names of; Church, the; Holy, Holiness
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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2003/10/mommie_dearest.html
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I think she really did a lot to help the poor, downtrod, and ill.

Her legacy was overshadowed and death forgotten due to the death of Princess Di One week earlier.

The American Idle crowd won out again.

American Idle
American Idle
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TV program about indolent members of society?
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Did you try writing them a letter?

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She's no more a Saint than any other Born Again Christian. Simply a tradition of the Catholic church. They apparently don't study their Bible but take what the priest and pope a dope have to say about it. The Bible is full of contradictions to this fable.
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Did you try writing them a letter?

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I don't dispute that..However this is a man made tradition and is completely UN-Biblical. I can call you a moron but that doesn't make you one
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Non Catholics spend a lot of time worrying about what Catholics get up to
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Protestants are just pissed because their prayers don't do shit.


Non Catholics spend a lot of time worrying about what Catholics get up to


Pretty much.
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This, and she refused to allow the families of these victims to visit and comfort them. Her victims lay there in filth, dying agonizing drug and treatment free deaths, while she spent her days jetting around the world hobnobbing with the elite, campaigning against civil rights and birth control, and raising money that went only to her church. She was a sadistic monster who believed that pain and suffering were desired.
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Fuck that bitch, if there's ever a hell may she be in the deepest and darkest and hottest part of it. For those who dont know, she used sick and near death patients and wouldn't let them have medical attention and use them for her PR & publicity stunt. Not to mention millions and millions of dollars in aid never reached the sick and poor she claimed to nurture and care for.



This, and she refused to allow the families of these victims to visit and comfort them. Her victims lay there in filth, dying agonizing drug and treatment free deaths, while she spent her days jetting around the world hobnobbing with the elite, campaigning against civil rights and birth control, and raising money that went only to her church. She was a sadistic monster who believed that pain and suffering were desired.

Let me guess... Baptist?
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I had a miracle happen last night.


I am not even kidding.

I clogged up the toilet all the way to the rim. I was all depressed about having to plunge and Clean it.  I went to grab the plunger and when I came back, the toilet was all clear and flushed and clean.


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