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Posted: 12/11/2017 6:37:50 PM EST

Is there any way to own property indefinitely i.e. without paying property taxes? As far as I know, if I buy a chunk a property today with cash, I have to pay taxes on it or the government will seize it/sell it. How can I buy land that I can actually *own* without any further costs?

I was thinking about this as a place to go in case of job loss/going broke for whatever reason, etc. It doesn't work if I still have to pay a large sum of money every year.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:39:51 PM EST

[#1]

Go be poor somewhere else!

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:41:19 PM EST

[#2]

Not that I know of. Some places have been trying to get rid of them for older (65+) landowners
but as far as I know your stinking county or state thinks they own what you bought.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:42:43 PM EST

[#3]

Most rural land in the South has very low taxes.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:43:31 PM EST

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The only way I know of doing it is to put a chunk of money in a escrow account and pay an accountant or lawyer to pay the taxes with it.
People do it if they need to travel for a long time or something like that.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:43:35 PM EST

[#5]

Buy in another country.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:43:42 PM EST

[#6]

There is a few States that don't have property taxes I just can't remember which ones at the moment

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:44:03 PM EST

[#7]

I seem to recall a couple places in either Georgia or South Carolina that we’re tax free. The catch was you had to inherit it and once you sold it, it would be taxable from there on out. So to answer your question, yes but if you could get it you would already know about it, so no tax free for you.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:44:41 PM EST

[#8]

set up a nonprofit

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:45:15 PM EST

[#9]

Ag land around here is cheap taxes from my limited knowledge

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:45:53 PM EST

[#10]

Property tax shouldn't exist. It should at most be a one time tax paid upon purchase. That's it.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:46:29 PM EST

[#11]

Rural property. Put a chicken and a calf on it, get taxed at the farm rate, which will be beer money.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:46:39 PM EST

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Posted: 12/11/2017 6:46:56 PM EST

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Which ones don't have property tax?

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:47:09 PM EST

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Ag land around here is cheap taxes from my limited knowledge

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Same here.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:47:43 PM EST

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https://www.thebalance.com/best-and-worst-states-for-property-taxes-3193328

Best
1. Hawaii - 0.28 percent
2. Alabama - 0.43 percent
3. Louisiana - 0.51 percent
4. Delaware - 0.55 percent
5. District of Columbia - 0.57 percent

Worst
1. New Jersey - 2.38 percent
2. Illinois - 2.32 percent
3. New Hampshire - 2.15 percent
4. Connecticut - 1.98 percent
5. Wisconsin - 1.96 percent

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:48:38 PM EST

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The only way I know of doing it is to put a chunk of money in a escrow account and pay an accountant or lawyer to pay the taxes with it.
People do it if they need to travel for a long time or something like that.

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Reread the question.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:51:09 PM EST

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Which ones don't have property tax?

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here's a start
http://nomadcapitalist.com/2014/05/27/countries-with-no-property-taxes-really-home/

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:51:33 PM EST

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This, i dont think there is a place in America where you can actually own land, car, boat, rv, etc. You will always pay the .gov rent for big ticket items.

Posted: 12/11/2017 6:54:38 PM EST

[#19]

Be a church

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:01:38 PM EST

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If you are not in one of the 13 colony's update your land patent. Some claim it can be use to stop paying property taxes because the state has no claim to land they never owned. I don't know how it works for taxes but Summa Corp. was able to stop the state of CA. form taking tide water land from them using the land patent and land grant they had showing that CA never owed the land they wanted to take.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:10:38 PM EST

[#21]

Buy a cemetery plot.

Red

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:10:39 PM EST

[#22]

You could always buy a few acres on the moon from that guy's website.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:12:10 PM EST

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Worked out well for the Branch Davidians.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:20:32 PM EST

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Worked out well for the Branch Davidians.

He asked how to own property and not pay taxes on it, not how to avoid being the main course at the next ATF BBQ

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:24:26 PM EST

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They cry about schools and roads when they want to raise taxes here. We don't have any school kids and the roads are crappy and wont get fixed if even patched........so tell me again why we pay land taxes?

The fuckers have even started to tax the little outbuildings and metal carports.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:24:54 PM EST

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Not as easy as he claims with one chicken and one calf. That won't cut it. Plus it has to be used for agricultural purposes for several years before it qualifies. Not as easy that that one says it is.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:26:27 PM EST

[#27]

Turn it over to the government they never paid a dime on land that they have taken

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:32:03 PM EST

[#28]

Germany is cheap, costs me $38 an acre

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:33:29 PM EST

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That works most places, if the taxing authority doesn't contest the denomination.

There's also some states which have an exemption for 'classified wildlife area' acreage. Last I dealt with it the land had to be fenced and planted in wildlife food plots and timber...but it was closed to all hunting or timber harvest. I ran into that a lot buying coal rights in southern Indiana.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:38:25 PM EST

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They cry about schools and roads when they want to raise taxes here. We don't have any school kids and the roads are crappy and wont get fixed if even patched........so tell me again why we pay land taxes?

The fuckers have even started to tax the little outbuildings and metal carports.

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They tax us here for rain falling on our yards, 25 a year, watershed.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:42:43 PM EST

[#31]

Sailboat or house boat

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:43:45 PM EST

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Sorry but the OP's join date should be changed to 2013 as this is a real deal 13er post.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:46:12 PM EST

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Not as easy as he claims with one chicken and one calf. That won't cut it. Plus it has to be used for agricultural purposes for several years before it qualifies. Not as easy that that one says it is.

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Not as easy as he claims with one chicken and one calf. That won't cut it. Plus it has to be used for agricultural purposes for several years before it qualifies. Not as easy that that one says it is.

The guy I quoted didn't say any of that.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:46:53 PM EST

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Finding a marina these days that allow 'live aboards' is pretty tough. Expensive as hell too.

If you can deal with living at anchorage and not having shore power, shore water, etc., it may be OK...but I don't want to have to haul my groceries in a dinghy in the rain.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:47:19 PM EST

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That's crazy high.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:51:59 PM EST

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If you are not in one of the 13 colony's update your land patent. Some claim it can be use to stop paying property taxes because the state has no claim to land they never owned. I don't know how it works for taxes but Summa Corp. was able to stop the state of CA. form taking tide water land from them using the land patent and land grant they had showing that CA never owed the land they wanted to take.

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No, just no.

Please stop believing the sovereign citizen nonsense.

Update your land patent.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:54:22 PM EST

[#37]

15 acres in Bladen County is just over $200 a year.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:56:16 PM EST

[#38]

If you can’t move it, you really don’t own it.

All real property is rented from the government.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:56:35 PM EST

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That works most places, if the taxing authority doesn't contest the denomination.

There's also some states which have an exemption for 'classified wildlife area' acreage. Last I dealt with it the land had to be fenced and planted in wildlife food plots and timber...but it was closed to all hunting or timber harvest. I ran into that a lot buying coal rights in southern Indiana.

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The real dream is to be like that SOB on the east side of 137 just north of Stanton and make more money from your land than the taxes are. He's CRP with wind turbines and pumpjacks.

I should have married the widow of a west texas rancher instead of the granddaughter of a coastal real estate developer.

Posted: 12/11/2017 7:58:02 PM EST

[#40]

Start your own Indian tribe and the gobberment pays you.

Posted: 12/11/2017 8:00:04 PM EST

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No, just no.

Please stop believing the sovereign citizen nonsense.

Update your land patent.

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If you are not in one of the 13 colony's update your land patent. Some claim it can be use to stop paying property taxes because the state has no claim to land they never owned. I don't know how it works for taxes but Summa Corp. was able to stop the state of CA. form taking tide water land from them using the land patent and land grant they had showing that CA never owed the land they wanted to take.

No, just no.

Please stop believing the sovereign citizen nonsense.

Update your land patent.

Posted: 12/11/2017 8:00:16 PM EST

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The real dream is to be like that SOB on the east side of 137 just north of Stanton and make more money from your land than the taxes are. He's CRP with wind turbines and pumpjacks.

I should have married the widow of a west texas rancher instead of the granddaughter of a coastal real estate developer.

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That works most places, if the taxing authority doesn't contest the denomination.

There's also some states which have an exemption for 'classified wildlife area' acreage. Last I dealt with it the land had to be fenced and planted in wildlife food plots and timber...but it was closed to all hunting or timber harvest. I ran into that a lot buying coal rights in southern Indiana.

The real dream is to be like that SOB on the east side of 137 just north of Stanton and make more money from your land than the taxes are. He's CRP with wind turbines and pumpjacks.

I should have married the widow of a west texas rancher instead of the granddaughter of a coastal real estate developer.

Kevin is that you?

Posted: 12/11/2017 8:01:53 PM EST

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Posted: 12/11/2017 8:02:20 PM EST

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@fettesbrotde

seriously

where ?

das muss ich wissen bitte

Posted: 12/11/2017 8:05:17 PM EST

[#45]

I have 10 acres in bum fuck Nevada. Taxes are like 22 bucks a year...

Posted: 12/11/2017 8:05:20 PM EST

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No, just no.

Please stop believing the sovereign citizen nonsense.

Update your land patent.

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If you are not in one of the 13 colony's update your land patent. Some claim it can be use to stop paying property taxes because the state has no claim to land they never owned. I don't know how it works for taxes but Summa Corp. was able to stop the state of CA. form taking tide water land from them using the land patent and land grant they had showing that CA never owed the land they wanted to take.

No, just no.

Please stop believing the sovereign citizen nonsense.

Update your land patent.

Its not sovereign citizen nonsense it case law from the US Supreme Court go look up Summa Corp vs. Ca. and read what the Supreme court had to say.

Posted: 12/11/2017 8:05:44 PM EST

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The real dream is to be like that SOB on the east side of 137 just north of Stanton and make more money from your land than the taxes are. He's CRP with wind turbines and pumpjacks.

I should have married the widow of a west texas rancher instead of the granddaughter of a coastal real estate developer.

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LOL...I know exactly the land to which you refer. I was working on a title project right down 137 a mile or so when a guy I know called me about a gig in Lafayette.