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Link Posted: 10/20/2021 2:05:02 AM EDT
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So is this a name only like the post master general or is this horrid abomination actually now AD mil?
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 2:18:57 AM EDT
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This dude was a pediatrician...


Link Posted: 10/20/2021 2:44:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/20/2021 2:51:15 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/20/2021 3:00:04 AM EDT
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four-star admiral in the United States Public Health Service...

The United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (PHSCC) employs more than 6,000 uniformed public health professionals for the purpose of delivering public health promotion and disease prevention programs and advancing public health science. Members of the Commissioned Corps often serve on the frontlines in the fight against disease and poor health conditions.

PHS had its origins in the system of marine hospitals that originated in 1798. In 1871 these were consolidated into the Marine Hospital Service, and shortly afterwards the position of Surgeon General and the PHSCC were established.

I don't think it has had anything to do with the military since 1912...  Well other than snazy uniforms.


Link Posted: 10/20/2021 3:12:45 AM EDT
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It's extremely depressing that we have even a few people in this thread spouting things like, "I don't care if they're trans, I care about ideology!"
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 3:35:27 AM EDT
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four-star admiral in the United States Public Health Service...

The United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (PHSCC) employs more than 6,000 uniformed public health professionals for the purpose of delivering public health promotion and disease prevention programs and advancing public health science. Members of the Commissioned Corps often serve on the frontlines in the fight against disease and poor health conditions.

PHS had its origins in the system of marine hospitals that originated in 1798. In 1871 these were consolidated into the Marine Hospital Service, and shortly afterwards the position of Surgeon General and the PHSCC were established.

I don't think it has had anything to do with the military since 1912...  Well other than snazy uniforms.


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So, like the Coast Guard or Salvation Army?
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 3:46:56 AM EDT
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The Rear Admiral?
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Link Posted: 10/20/2021 4:17:11 AM EDT
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As far as I understand, it's not an armed service, but it still is a uniformed service. Like Coast Guard but without guns. All military pay and benefits apply, as well as UCMJ (when deployed). This thing is going to have the same rank and standing as a Navy Admiral. You will salute it and you will like it.
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I can't read the article; it's behind a paywall, but any military titles for civilians makes me ill (Col sanders excluded).

Can I just declare myself a 7 star general of some civil organization?


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As far as I understand, it's not an armed service, but it still is a uniformed service. Like Coast Guard but without guns. All military pay and benefits apply, as well as UCMJ (when deployed). This thing is going to have the same rank and standing as a Navy Admiral. You will salute it and you will like it.

I'll do nothing and I'll be happy.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 5:40:43 AM EDT
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Did this position even exist before?
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 6:11:55 AM EDT
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This is fucking sick, should be tar and feathered and has NO business being in any public position…..PERIOD ! I bet the sick bastard wishes he could have one. Anyone thinking this dude is Ok is mentally ill and deserves to be………most of us here know what I’m thinking. It’s absolutely ludicrous.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 6:21:23 AM EDT
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Did this position even exist before?
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Yes.

Kharn
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 6:24:44 AM EDT
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The reset will not come without some bloodshed.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 6:44:28 AM EDT
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I think Rach is ...

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Link Posted: 10/20/2021 7:00:30 AM EDT
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Why does the health department have admirals? That is what's blowing my mind more than the trans part lol.
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It's like being a general in the salvation army.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 7:02:48 AM EDT
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It blows me away to see how much society must engage and be part of the fantasy world of the mentally ill. To the point of legislating us to do it.

Sorry Richard. You're a dude. I'm not playing along.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 7:15:12 AM EDT
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So sad...
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 7:20:02 AM EDT
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Which way is that thing transing?
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Where'd he earn those ribbons?  The only war he's fought in is the war against mental illness.



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Also fought a war against freedom and businesses in PA, kicked the heck out of the latter, even killed a few people.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 7:38:22 AM EDT
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The trans part is a clue to his mental condition.
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"IT'S MAAM!!!1"
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 7:42:16 AM EDT
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Where'd he earn those ribbons?  The only war he's fought in is the war against mental illness.



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I think I figured them all out.  That "service" has their own tinker-toy ribbons.

Public Health Service Presidential Unit Citation
Public Health Service COVID19 Pandemic Campaign Medal
Public Health Service Regular Corps Ribbon
Commissioned Corps Training Ribbon

I'm not sure how someone installed as an admiral gets a presidential unit citation of any kind. But I might just be ignorant.

https://dcp.psc.gov/CCMIS/COAP/COAP_award_criteria_m.aspx
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 8:17:23 AM EDT
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E4 would have been more appropriate.

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Link Posted: 10/20/2021 8:26:57 AM EDT
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I think I figured them all out.  That "service" has their own tinker-toy ribbons.

Public Health Service Presidential Unit Citation
Public Health Service COVID19 Pandemic Campaign Medal
Public Health Service Regular Corps Ribbon
Commissioned Corps Training Ribbon

I'm not sure how someone installed as an admiral gets a presidential unit citation of any kind. But I might just be ignorant.

https://dcp.psc.gov/CCMIS/COAP/COAP_award_criteria_m.aspx
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Covid campaign medal?

This whole thing is a LARP.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 8:35:51 AM EDT
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Zero fucks given about the trans part the part that pisses me off is the commie part.
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This is why we lose.

Libertarianism is retarded.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 8:42:11 AM EDT
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In the decades of uniformed military service,
I have never rendered a salute to a "uniformed" Public Health employee.

Link Posted: 10/20/2021 8:45:09 AM EDT
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Islam is right about two things.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 8:47:33 AM EDT
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LOL keep trusting that science gentlemen
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 8:58:43 AM EDT
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Who wouldn't want a mentally ill admiral?
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Which way is that thing transing?
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To the broken and insane camp.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:00:48 AM EDT
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In the decades of uniformed military service,
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Have you actually ever met one?
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:11:55 AM EDT
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It's extremely depressing that we have even a few people in this thread spouting things like, "I don't care if they're trans, I care about ideology!"
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Logical assumptions can be drawn
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:14:28 AM EDT
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It's funny because he was trying to get a discharge for being crazy. Today they'd make him a flag officer.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:24:29 AM EDT
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No big deal. It’s very common for corrupt Third World dictatorships to make purely political appointments of flag officers.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/27/article-0-20061E9C00000578-262_964x651.jpg
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I like how their uniforms look so baggy on them.  Like they ate under fed.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:26:06 AM EDT
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Clown Show and White Noise
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This dude was a pediatrician...


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I can't imagine any sane parent letting that thing near their child.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:28:47 AM EDT
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To the broken and insane camp.
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There's no transition left for that.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:30:42 AM EDT
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It's extremely depressing that we have even a few people in this thread spouting things like, "I don't care if they're trans, I care about ideology!"
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Agreed, because basically they are saying I don't care if they are mentally ill. These are the same people that will vote for any warm body, even know child molesters merely because they wear their preferred symbol (D or R).
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:31:43 AM EDT
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Not what you see in third world countries at  all!
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No big deal. It’s very common for corrupt Third World dictatorships to make purely political appointments of flag officers.

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Sweet flair.  He could definitely work at Chotchkie’s.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:42:08 AM EDT
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In the decades of uniformed military service,
I have never rendered a salute to a "uniformed" Public Health employee.

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in 28yrs i've never seen one in the wild nor would salute either.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 9:50:39 AM EDT
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Lets celebrate and reward insanity.
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in 28yrs i've never seen one in the wild nor would salute either.
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in 28yrs i've never seen one in the wild nor would salute either.

The only place I have ever seen them is in the national capital region.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 10:02:49 AM EDT
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Are you an E?

Unless you're a Coastie, a BOP employee, a BIA employee or working in some specific Joint billets you won't see many PHS peeps.

But they rate a salute.
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The only place I have ever seen them is in the national capital region.
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The cover always throws me off.

They are like the MARAD uniformed people. I don't think they exist in the wild.
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A 4 star Admiral of the “US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps”?

What is the pay for this position? I’m unaware of the history of this agency, but it sounds like it has morphed into another swamp turd that needs to be flushed down the toilet.
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PHS , (name has changed idea behind it hasnt)  is to improve public health.
One of the ways they did this way back was quarentinineing suspected TB , smallpox, plague ships so they didn't infect mainland.  When sailboats would show up in the harbor they would put up the quarantine flag a solid yellow flag. While that flag was up, the ONLY person allowed on and off was the quarantine officer of the port. the ONLY person who could take the ship out of quarantine was the PHS/quarentine officer.  If a ship was contaminated/plague ridden  the PHS officer got to wait it out onboard. Initially quarantines were "quatro tino" italian for "40 days" how long ships had to sit in harbor back in the 1600's in Italy to prevent spread of plague. you think trade suffers due to longshoremen being slow now... lol

PHS is technically commissioned officers in the military they have O ranks just like navy ranks so 4 star admiral would be O-10, pay of 200k per year, plus benefits. IF they did 20 years they would get 50% of that for rest of life like a normal military pension, if appointed like this appears to be i dunno how it would work.

PHS also is a backup of nurses that can be brought in to beef up various epidemics as needed. Ive got a buddy who is a nurse with them, normally he is 40 or so hours, now he is about 80-90 hours a week for his o-5 pay, . Same civilian nurse would be getting 250k easy for that level of hours. He is getting burned out too.  

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Have you actually ever met one?
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Have you actually ever met one?


They were all over Bethesda Naval when I was active duty. Never saluted a single one. Usually they are clueless about military customs and courtesies so they didn't even know when they were blown off.  Everyone laughed behind their back when they walked by. PHS is a fucking joke.
Link Posted: 10/20/2021 10:17:43 AM EDT
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The press release says:

HHS said in a press release that the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps is one of eight uniformed services – "and the only one dedicated solely to protecting, promoting and advancing America’s public health" by providing health care to "underserved and vulnerable populations or advancing practice, policy or research."
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Per Wikipedia:

Uniformed services
The uniformed services are, in order of precedence, when in formations:

United States Army
United States Marine Corps
United States Navy
United States Air Force
United States Space Force
United States Coast Guard
United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Officer Corps
Each of the uniformed services is administratively headed by a federal executive department and its corresponding civilian Cabinet leader.


Interesting to see that:
United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (PHSCC): 4 January 1889
The Corps is headed by the Surgeon General of the United States.
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