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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:15:38 PM EST
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Sooo.....um....anyone get an email from Starlink?
Maybe I did, or maybe...I did... 
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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:17:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sooo.....um....anyone get an email from Starlink? Maybe I did, or maybe...I did... Makes sense, as far north as you are. I’ll sign up when I can, maybe. |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:18:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sooo.....um....anyone get an email from Starlink? Maybe I did, or maybe...I did... If you don't want it, I'll take it! (48 degrees now) |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:18:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sooo.....um....anyone get an email from Starlink? Maybe I did, or maybe...I did... Yes. My equipment arrives Friday. The tripod sure looks interesting. I wonder what the delivery drivers will say when they see it on the |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:25:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When I do that with my correct address it says unavailable. What I don't know is if it will work if I sign up with another address and bring the equipment to my house. Get with a friend that lives in town and mail it them if it states available in there area. |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:30:58 PM EST
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I got my T-Mobile internet box yesterday. Speeds are good, and pretty much the same as what I was seeing with a nighthawk running a t-mobile tablet plan.
For those of you that have good t-mobile service at your house, and yet the site says its unavailable, try using 999-999-9999 for your phone number. It's what made it accept my address. |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:31:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So in the past few weeks Verizon, AT&T, and TMobile have all offered home internet that is cellular based. I have a good signal from all 3 at my home. But NONE of those scumbags offer this service at my area!  I hate how hard this BS has become. Jesus Christ, what is Elon Musk waiting for? Same boat as you...then att stomped on otr's dick and my dsl has been down 3 weeks...no internet except phone now |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 3:53:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sooo.....um....anyone get an email from Starlink? Maybe I did, or maybe...I did... Lol I signed up for the Beta months ago but I'm in Alabama so I have no chance |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 4:36:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol I signed up for the Beta months ago but I'm in Alabama so I have no chance Coverage will be expanding rapidly as the launches continue. It won't be long at their current cadence. |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 5:38:37 PM EST
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Well got home and set up my home T mobile and so far it’s not great but just ok. The tower across the road from my house must be down as my current service has dropped to 2-3 bars. In the past it’s been 4 or so.
The T mobile modem is neat. It actually has a battery and will run unplugged so if you loose power you still have internet. It also has a place for a phone jack which I find interesting. I’m assuming you can plug a standard phone to it and call your modems number and act like a home phone.  Attached File Attached FileIt is a bit on the large size compared to the LB1120 which has been highly recommended here.  Attached FileAnd thus far the 20min I have messed with it it appears the LB1120 has better receive capabilities. Below are speed test back to back.  Attached File Attached FileBoth suck right now due to the tower which is LOS less than 1/4 mile away from me being down. |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 5:59:28 PM EST
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I have currently have Verizon for cellular. I'm thinking of adding a tablet data plan to my existing "unlimited plan" and using that in my Mofi4500, similar to using the Visible plan Sim work around, then adjusting the TTL settings to make it look like I'm on the tablet full time. Is this workable?
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Posted: 10/28/2020 7:30:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also now seems that AT&T has upped their game on the home-based mobile internet to compete with the new TMO & VZ plans (this new ATT deal is apparently a different service than the fixed-mobile system). The pitch: So $55/month - and not sure, but its possible that if you exceed 1TB in a month and then also exceed 10 blocks of 50GB for that extra $100 charge that they may begin throttling you then? ETA: nope read the terms/conditions, really does look like a solid deal here... looks like you really can get unlimited unthrottled ATT wireless internet by prepaying extra $30/month, so total $85/month for this https://www.att.com/wi-fi/ and then click on the 1st option presented "AT&T High Speed Internet" its really dumb here that I cannot seem to get a good link here and you have to click through but whatever also seems that extra $30/month for truly unlimited unthrottled is vaived if you combine billing for directv/atttv also seems if you order online by oct 31 there is a $100 VISA gift card for you. Tried following your link, but all it takes me to(even after clicking the first option of att high speed internet) is for their non-cellular options. Any ideas on helping me out with this? I went with the tmobile thing and it is working good for me, but a buddy tried tmo and he is getting about 1.5Mbps downstream at his place. Like me, he also used to have OTR, but I think we all know where that dumpster fire is heading |
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Posted: 10/28/2020 9:29:29 PM EST
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If anybody is interested (and can’t get one of the offered home internet services), I finally ditched my trusty lb1120 and went with a custom modem/router solution. It gives a lot more power and flexibility. I used a cheap router and a cheap modem, all in only a bit over $100. It took a lot of trial and error to get it set up correctly, visible seems to be the hardest provider other than sprint to set up on these. Speeds are frankly pretty damn impressive. I only bought a cat4 modem, the quecetel EC25-AF. It does not support carrier aggregation, though I could have spent about $50 more for a cat 6 modem that does. I get Speedtest results using the stock Omni antennae that are as good as my iPhone in the same location. Surprising since I have several towers within range, and my phone can do CA. My iPhone uses a Verizon plan though, not visible. For $25/month it’s pretty good value IMO. If anybody is looking to do something similar and can’t find all the answers on the net, I’m happy to help.
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Posted: 10/28/2020 11:46:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If anybody is interested (and can’t get one of the offered home internet services), I finally ditched my trusty lb1120 and went with a custom modem/router solution. It gives a lot more power and flexibility. I used a cheap router and a cheap modem, all in only a bit over $100. It took a lot of trial and error to get it set up correctly, visible seems to be the hardest provider other than sprint to set up on these. Speeds are frankly pretty damn impressive. I only bought a cat4 modem, the quecetel EC25-AF. It does not support carrier aggregation, though I could have spent about $50 more for a cat 6 modem that does. I get Speedtest results using the stock Omni antennae that are as good as my iPhone in the same location. Surprising since I have several towers within range, and my phone can do CA. My iPhone uses a Verizon plan though, not visible. For $25/month it’s pretty good value IMO. If anybody is looking to do something similar and can’t find all the answers on the net, I’m happy to help. Careful what you offer up! I'm in a situation at the moment. I will be moving part time to a rural property @ 48N starting in December. I'll be there about a week per month, and will need internet adequate to email and do some light web research/downloading. Starting in March, I'll have greater need, and by June, I'm hoping I'll have Starlink up and running. If not, we'll survive. Meanwhile, I can throw some time and effort and money after the problem. I am thinking about a Calyx hotspot (T-Mobile) and my phone hotspot (Verizon) and bonding them with a router. I need booster/antenna ideas since my place is underground and essentially a faraday cage. The phone got 20down/2 up and 49ms latency from a good spot outside, I just need to get that inside. I'm hopeful that with antenna and/or booster will get the signal I need inside. I posted a diagram above, but I don't need to repeat the signal to another building until June, so all I need to focus on is if bonding the two will help, and if so, best way to do it. I'm not afraid of fussing with stuff to get it to work. There's also a Hughes satellite dish onsite, so I could even add that for a few months. Alternative would be to get a hotspot with a wire connection and put it outside and run a wire inside to the wifi. I'm starting from scratch here, so spend my money. Figure my budget for PRE-Starlink is $2500. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 12:07:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well got home and set up my home T mobile and so far it’s not great but just ok. The tower across the road from my house must be down as my current service has dropped to 2-3 bars. In the past it’s been 4 or so. The T mobile modem is neat. It actually has a battery and will run unplugged so if you loose power you still have internet. It also has a place for a phone jack which I find interesting. I’m assuming you can plug a standard phone to it and call your modems number and act like a home phone. Nope. Tech support confirmed that jack is not active. I also tried a phone in it and dead silence. No dial tone or anything. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 7:50:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Careful what you offer up! I'm in a situation at the moment. I will be moving part time to a rural property @ 48N starting in December. I'll be there about a week per month, and will need internet adequate to email and do some light web research/downloading. Starting in March, I'll have greater need, and by June, I'm hoping I'll have Starlink up and running. If not, we'll survive. Meanwhile, I can throw some time and effort and money after the problem. I am thinking about a Calyx hotspot (T-Mobile) and my phone hotspot (Verizon) and bonding them with a router. I need booster/antenna ideas since my place is underground and essentially a faraday cage. The phone got 20down/2 up and 49ms latency from a good spot outside, I just need to get that inside. I'm hopeful that with antenna and/or booster will get the signal I need inside. I posted a diagram above, but I don't need to repeat the signal to another building until June, so all I need to focus on is if bonding the two will help, and if so, best way to do it. I'm not afraid of fussing with stuff to get it to work. There's also a Hughes satellite dish onsite, so I could even add that for a few months. Alternative would be to get a hotspot with a wire connection and put it outside and run a wire inside to the wifi. I'm starting from scratch here, so spend my money. Figure my budget for PRE-Starlink is $2500. Custom LTE stuff aside, your problem is easy. Stick as tall a pole as you can manage in the ground. Mount a decent sized NEMA enclosure on it. Run power to it. Run conduit to it from your "inside" wiring closet or whatever. In the enclosure place your LTE modem. At the top of the pole mount the antennas. Pull CAT-6 from the enclosure through the conduit to your wiring closet where you've placed the rest of the gear. Router, switches, and such. This will connect the "LAN" side of your modem inside the enclosure to the "WAN" side of your router, inside the building. Optional: Run one CAT-6 cable back to the enclosure (now you have two in the conduit) to place an access point on the pole to make your property hot for wifi outside as well as inside. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 8:31:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Custom LTE stuff aside, your problem is easy. Stick as tall a pole as you can manage in the ground. Mount a decent sized NEMA enclosure on it. Run power to it. Run conduit to it from your "inside" wiring closet or whatever. In the enclosure place your LTE modem. At the top of the pole mount the antennas. Pull CAT-6 from the enclosure through the conduit to your wiring closet where you've placed the rest of the gear. Router, switches, and such. This will connect the "LAN" side of your modem inside the enclosure to the "WAN" side of your router, inside the building. Optional: Run one CAT-6 cable back to the enclosure (now you have two in the conduit) to place an access point on the pole to make your property hot for wifi outside as well as inside. I really like this idea and will probably try something like that. It sounds like it is well inside my budget -- however: New issue (literally new a few days ago) T-Mobile (and therefore resellers including google-fi) have installed 5g that their maps say covers the property. I haven't had a chance to try that out, just the service testing I noted with my Verizon phone. I will be back on the property in a couple of weeks to check,, but if there is decent 5g service there, that could be another option. Any 5G Modems out there? |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 8:47:22 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really like this idea and will probably try something like that. It sounds like it is well inside my budget -- however: New issue (literally new a few days ago) T-Mobile (and therefore resellers including google-fi) have installed 5g that their maps say covers the property. I haven't had a chance to try that out, just the service testing I noted with my Verizon phone. I will be back on the property in a couple of weeks to check,, but if there is decent 5g service there, that could be another option. Any 5G Modems out there? Someone else will have to answer that. But, what i've described will work just as well for almost any method of getting wireless based internet service into your structure. Simply place the modem of your choice, with matching antennas, on the pole outside. And if/when you get starlink you will just place it's receiver close to the pole (with wires running into the box mounted on it) as well. It's totally future proof. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 8:50:29 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really like this idea and will probably try something like that. It sounds like it is well inside my budget -- however: New issue (literally new a few days ago) T-Mobile (and therefore resellers including google-fi) have installed 5g that their maps say covers the property. I haven't had a chance to try that out, just the service testing I noted with my Verizon phone. I will be back on the property in a couple of weeks to check,, but if there is decent 5g service there, that could be another option. Any 5G Modems out there? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Custom LTE stuff aside, your problem is easy. Stick as tall a pole as you can manage in the ground. Mount a decent sized NEMA enclosure on it. Run power to it. Run conduit to it from your "inside" wiring closet or whatever. In the enclosure place your LTE modem. At the top of the pole mount the antennas. Pull CAT-6 from the enclosure through the conduit to your wiring closet where you've placed the rest of the gear. Router, switches, and such. This will connect the "LAN" side of your modem inside the enclosure to the "WAN" side of your router, inside the building. Optional: Run one CAT-6 cable back to the enclosure (now you have two in the conduit) to place an access point on the pole to make your property hot for wifi outside as well as inside. I really like this idea and will probably try something like that. It sounds like it is well inside my budget -- however: New issue (literally new a few days ago) T-Mobile (and therefore resellers including google-fi) have installed 5g that their maps say covers the property. I haven't had a chance to try that out, just the service testing I noted with my Verizon phone. I will be back on the property in a couple of weeks to check,, but if there is decent 5g service there, that could be another option. Any 5G Modems out there? There are. They're new and, I believe, expensive. You'd also have to somehow use a phone plan with it, since there are no tablet 5G plans. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 12:14:49 PM EST
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Quoted: Someone else will have to answer that. But, what i've described will work just as well for almost any method of getting wireless based internet service into your structure. Simply place the modem of your choice, with matching antennas, on the pole outside. And if/when you get starlink you will just place it's receiver close to the pole (with wires running into the box mounted on it) as well. It's totally future proof. Thanks. I'll start down that rabbit hole after work tonight. Quoted: There are. They're new and, I believe, expensive. You'd also have to somehow use a phone plan with it, since there are no tablet 5G plans. Figures. I may see if I can get my employer to spring for something. He will cover my cost for "adequate" connection, but will probably roll his eyes and laugh at me if I push it! |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 12:46:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I'll start down that rabbit hole after work tonight. Figures. I may see if I can get my employer to spring for something. He will cover my cost for "adequate" connection, but will probably roll his eyes and laugh at me if I push it! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Someone else will have to answer that. But, what i've described will work just as well for almost any method of getting wireless based internet service into your structure. Simply place the modem of your choice, with matching antennas, on the pole outside. And if/when you get starlink you will just place it's receiver close to the pole (with wires running into the box mounted on it) as well. It's totally future proof. Thanks. I'll start down that rabbit hole after work tonight. Quoted: There are. They're new and, I believe, expensive. You'd also have to somehow use a phone plan with it, since there are no tablet 5G plans. Figures. I may see if I can get my employer to spring for something. He will cover my cost for "adequate" connection, but will probably roll his eyes and laugh at me if I push it! You can buy all the equipment you need here: https://ltefix.com/ For absolute best performance I’d pay them for their tower survey, determine the best carrier, figure out which plan(s) you will use, buy an external enclosure for the router, buy the newest modem you can (cat12), get your direct bury cat6 cable ran, buy the poe injector you’ll need, etc. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 12:55:55 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can buy all the equipment you need here: https://ltefix.com/ For absolute best performance I’d pay them for their tower survey, determine the best carrier, figure out which plan(s) you will use, buy an external enclosure for the router, buy the newest modem you can (cat12), get your direct bury cat6 cable ran, buy the poe injector you’ll need, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Someone else will have to answer that. But, what i've described will work just as well for almost any method of getting wireless based internet service into your structure. Simply place the modem of your choice, with matching antennas, on the pole outside. And if/when you get starlink you will just place it's receiver close to the pole (with wires running into the box mounted on it) as well. It's totally future proof. Thanks. I'll start down that rabbit hole after work tonight. Quoted: There are. They're new and, I believe, expensive. You'd also have to somehow use a phone plan with it, since there are no tablet 5G plans. Figures. I may see if I can get my employer to spring for something. He will cover my cost for "adequate" connection, but will probably roll his eyes and laugh at me if I push it! You can buy all the equipment you need here: https://ltefix.com/ For absolute best performance I’d pay them for their tower survey, determine the best carrier, figure out which plan(s) you will use, buy an external enclosure for the router, buy the newest modem you can (cat12), get your direct bury cat6 cable ran, buy the poe injector you’ll need, etc. Thanks. I like to learn from other's suffering. It took me 5 decades to learn that I don't have to beat myself with a stick if someone else has already done that. It also helps that I have strong, smart kids. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 1:00:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I like to learn from other's suffering. It took me 5 decades to learn that I don't have to beat myself with a stick if someone else has already done that. It also helps that I have strong, smart kids. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Someone else will have to answer that. But, what i've described will work just as well for almost any method of getting wireless based internet service into your structure. Simply place the modem of your choice, with matching antennas, on the pole outside. And if/when you get starlink you will just place it's receiver close to the pole (with wires running into the box mounted on it) as well. It's totally future proof. Thanks. I'll start down that rabbit hole after work tonight. Quoted: There are. They're new and, I believe, expensive. You'd also have to somehow use a phone plan with it, since there are no tablet 5G plans. Figures. I may see if I can get my employer to spring for something. He will cover my cost for "adequate" connection, but will probably roll his eyes and laugh at me if I push it! You can buy all the equipment you need here: https://ltefix.com/ For absolute best performance I’d pay them for their tower survey, determine the best carrier, figure out which plan(s) you will use, buy an external enclosure for the router, buy the newest modem you can (cat12), get your direct bury cat6 cable ran, buy the poe injector you’ll need, etc. Thanks. I like to learn from other's suffering. It took me 5 decades to learn that I don't have to beat myself with a stick if someone else has already done that. It also helps that I have strong, smart kids. You can get a more turnkey solution (though you’ll still need a weather proof housing and better antennas) from a mofi 4500. If you really want to spend some cash the top of the line equipment is cradlepoint. They make routers with dual modems and data sharing so you can use two services simultaneously with one piece of hardware. With the advent of the home internet plans from Tmo, Vzw, and ATT I’d expect fewer people to be messing with home brewed 4G Lte solutions. For truckers, full time RVers, and really rural customers though I don’t see many other options. |
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Posted: 10/29/2020 8:55:16 PM EST
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Posted: 10/29/2020 9:29:09 PM EST
[#25]
Feeling brave? You can connect an antenna to the tmobile router.
I'm still down to 2 bars of signal from having 4 when I first got it, and nothing I do seems to bring them back. My speeds now never drop under 40 and hover around 50, but that is a far cry from the 120 I was seeing before it changed. Its not throttling- my signal strength has significantly degraded, most likely due to local issues. I wonder if there was some tower maintenance or something? Looking at my router speedtests it happened on 10/25 and I've never approached that greatness again. Its still a fantastic deal for me, but I'll admit that I'm concerned if it dropped once it could go lower... |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 6:16:10 AM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just noticed this on the T Mobil home internet. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/424008/99F756DB-EE18-4793-973E-B8357DF40DB8_jpe-1660242.JPG Well, that settles that. I was talking with another Arfcommer yesterday about the idea of moving and we both thought that the provider may cut it off if it pings a tower it isn't supposed to. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 6:58:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have currently have Verizon for cellular. I'm thinking of adding a tablet data plan to my existing "unlimited plan" and using that in my Mofi4500, similar to using the Visible plan Sim work around, then adjusting the TTL settings to make it look like I'm on the tablet full time. Is this workable? I used my Tmobile phone sim with no problem. Just yesterday I used a Tmobile sim from the phone of a coworker. He just got Tmobile and was curious. Put in the sim, reset to new sim and number, I had to manually change the APN to fast.t-mobile.com. We streamed movies etc., it worked fine. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 7:56:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that settles that. I was talking with another Arfcommer yesterday about the idea of moving and we both thought that the provider may cut it off if it pings a tower it isn't supposed to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just noticed this on the T Mobil home internet. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/424008/99F756DB-EE18-4793-973E-B8357DF40DB8_jpe-1660242.JPG Well, that settles that. I was talking with another Arfcommer yesterday about the idea of moving and we both thought that the provider may cut it off if it pings a tower it isn't supposed to. It's not actually geo-locked. They just won't support it if it's not at your address. They're only selling it in areas set up for it with plenty of bandwidth available. If you take it elsewhere you're on your own. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 7:57:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In my experience you don't have to mess with the TTL, it is already set to what you need. I used my Tmobile phone sim with no problem. Just yesterday I used a Tmobile sim from the phone of a coworker. He just got Tmobile and was curious. Put in the sim, reset to new sim and number, I had to manually change the APN to fast.t-mobile.com. We streamed movies etc., it worked fine. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have currently have Verizon for cellular. I'm thinking of adding a tablet data plan to my existing "unlimited plan" and using that in my Mofi4500, similar to using the Visible plan Sim work around, then adjusting the TTL settings to make it look like I'm on the tablet full time. Is this workable? I used my Tmobile phone sim with no problem. Just yesterday I used a Tmobile sim from the phone of a coworker. He just got Tmobile and was curious. Put in the sim, reset to new sim and number, I had to manually change the APN to fast.t-mobile.com. We streamed movies etc., it worked fine. And how much data did you use? Tmobile will hard throttle to 600kbps after 15GB of hotspot data, which what they see when the sim is in a modem. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:25:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that settles that. I was talking with another Arfcommer yesterday about the idea of moving and we both thought that the provider may cut it off if it pings a tower it isn't supposed to. So far I have not been impressed with the speeds at which I am getting. I will not be canceling my Nolimitdata as of yet. Im going to reach out to T mobile and see if there is something they can do. I literally have a confirmed T mobile tower line of sight no obstructions less than 1/4 mile from my house and max I can get is 12mb down and 1.5up. I think for some reason that tower maybe down and I am depending on 2 other T mobile towers both of which are over 2-3 miles away in opposite directions. But yet my Nolimit data and lb1120 seems to be rocking on just fine. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 8:29:17 AM EST
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That tower may also support a slower band.
When I had a mofi, I bought it mostly in the hope that it would hit b71, which I was assured was very fast. Band locking to 71 at the time showed that not to be the case at all, even if I went very close to the b71 tower. It ended up being slower than using the older bands I had been using. Similarly, as they continued to upgrade, for a while I found that when my 1120 was pulling a 4 bar signal, it was actually hitching on to a slower band. I ended up removing the external antenna, which actually brought my speed up substantially as it then locked onto a different band. YMMV |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 9:52:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And how much data did you use? Tmobile will hard throttle to 600kbps after 15GB of hotspot data, which what they see when the sim is in a modem. I'll have to try it again, I'm curious because I may have to depend on it later. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 10:42:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That I can't say for sure, but I doubt it was 15gig. I'll have to try it again, I'm curious because I may have to depend on it later. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And how much data did you use? Tmobile will hard throttle to 600kbps after 15GB of hotspot data, which what they see when the sim is in a modem. I'll have to try it again, I'm curious because I may have to depend on it later. I went back to Verizon and reactivated my cellular hotspot as a backup when my OTR membership ends in December, if not earlier due to their issues. At $10/mo for 15Gig and $20/mo for up to 30 Gig, it wont be much but I'm not a big streamer anyway. Just need something to hold me over until Verizon releases it home internet plan where I live. The rep had no idea when that would be, but estimated by end of 1st quarter 2021 in my area given TMO and ATT competition that they are losing out to. I checked TMO for home internet but wasn't thrilled they want a credit check ( mines frozen, pain to unlock). Same with ATT. So its down to Visible and Calyx. I've been back and forth with Visible over two days of chat and phone calls to get them to accept my billing mailing address for a sim, but its not a street addy for FEDEX delivery, and their checkout system wont accept anything but that, which combines both billing and shipping onto one street address with no choice on serparating them. So if I get that worked out today I'll go back to them, otherwise I'll take the plunge with Calyx. I'm waiting on them to bring back a router with antenna connections so I can get better Sprint/Tmobile reception. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 11:28:57 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went back to Verizon and reactivated my cellular hotspot as a backup when my OTR membership ends in December, if not earlier due to their issues. At $10/mo for 15Gig and $20/mo for up to 30 Gig, it wont be much but I'm not a big streamer anyway. Just need something to hold me over until Verizon releases it home internet plan where I live. The rep had no idea when that would be, but estimated by end of 1st quarter 2021 in my area given TMO and ATT competition that they are losing out to. I checked TMO for home internet but wasn't thrilled they want a credit check ( mines frozen, pain to unlock). Same with ATT. So its down to Visible and Calyx. I've been back and forth with Visible over two days of chat and phone calls to get them to accept my billing mailing address for a sim, but its not a street addy for FEDEX delivery, and their checkout system wont accept anything but that, which combines both billing and shipping onto one street address with no choice on serparating them. So if I get that worked out today I'll go back to them, otherwise I'll take the plunge with Calyx. I'm waiting on them to bring back a router with antenna connections so I can get better Sprint/Tmobile reception. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And how much data did you use? Tmobile will hard throttle to 600kbps after 15GB of hotspot data, which what they see when the sim is in a modem. I'll have to try it again, I'm curious because I may have to depend on it later. I went back to Verizon and reactivated my cellular hotspot as a backup when my OTR membership ends in December, if not earlier due to their issues. At $10/mo for 15Gig and $20/mo for up to 30 Gig, it wont be much but I'm not a big streamer anyway. Just need something to hold me over until Verizon releases it home internet plan where I live. The rep had no idea when that would be, but estimated by end of 1st quarter 2021 in my area given TMO and ATT competition that they are losing out to. I checked TMO for home internet but wasn't thrilled they want a credit check ( mines frozen, pain to unlock). Same with ATT. So its down to Visible and Calyx. I've been back and forth with Visible over two days of chat and phone calls to get them to accept my billing mailing address for a sim, but its not a street addy for FEDEX delivery, and their checkout system wont accept anything but that, which combines both billing and shipping onto one street address with no choice on serparating them. So if I get that worked out today I'll go back to them, otherwise I'll take the plunge with Calyx. I'm waiting on them to bring back a router with antenna connections so I can get better Sprint/Tmobile reception. I tried Calyx and had zero sprint signal. Cost me $150 to find out.  Visible has been good for me. Join the visibleparty Facebook page and join a party and it’s $25/month. My speeds are consistently good, but I live in BFE. My biggest complaint is that they limit streaming speed to 2mbps. I’ll be getting a vpn to bypass that restriction. I’m still trying to get a T-Mobile home internet setup but don’t think it’s likely to happen. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 12:52:25 PM EST
[#35]
Verizon LTE Home is pretty damn awesome! Router just arrived today and setup took about 5 minutes.
The router has both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz. Speed seems to be capped at 50 Mbps down, but that's way better than I had before. $40 month for unlimited, no data caps and no slow downs. Box  Attached FileBack of router - note only 2 LAN ports  Attached FileCenturylink DSL  Attached FileVerizon  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 12:57:18 PM EST
[#36]
I spoke to Tmo today about my speeds dropping from ~120 to 40mbps. I had wondered about it being a modem issue. They were able to confirm that for some reason my modem was connecting to the wrong tower, and stated that they would be looking into it. The tower it is connecting to is actually about 2.5 miles away from the tower it should be going to.
It was nice that they were able to tell me what tower I was at, and which I should be at. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 1:01:58 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Custom LTE stuff aside, your problem is easy. Stick as tall a pole as you can manage in the ground. Mount a decent sized NEMA enclosure on it. Run power to it. Run conduit to it from your "inside" wiring closet or whatever. In the enclosure place your LTE modem. At the top of the pole mount the antennas. Pull CAT-6 from the enclosure through the conduit to your wiring closet where you've placed the rest of the gear. Router, switches, and such. This will connect the "LAN" side of your modem inside the enclosure to the "WAN" side of your router, inside the building. Optional: Run one CAT-6 cable back to the enclosure (now you have two in the conduit) to place an access point on the pole to make your property hot for wifi outside as well as inside. LB1121 will run PoE, so you don't even need to run power, just a CAT6. I use them with a free 200mb/month plan for backup remote access on my servers. |
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Posted: 10/30/2020 4:43:39 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Verizon LTE Home is pretty damn awesome! Router just arrived today and setup took about 5 minutes. The router has both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz. Speed seems to be capped at 50 Mbps down, but that's way better than I had before. $40 month for unlimited, no data caps and no slow downs. Box https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50102/IMG_0038_jpeg-1660975.JPG Back of router - note only 2 LAN ports https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50102/IMG_0040_jpeg-1660976.JPG Centurylink DSL https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50102/Screen_Shot_2020-10-30_at_10_00_38_AM_pn-1660980.JPG Verizon https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/50102/Screen_Shot_2020-10-30_at_1_34_51_PM_png-1660979.JPG Also not available in my area. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 1:41:02 PM EST
[#39]
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Posted: 11/1/2020 2:26:13 PM EST
[#40]
Getting my Tmobile trial kit tomorrow. I do have service right now with a wisp and get around 12 mbps with a max of 15. The ping goes a little high though. If the Tmobile works, I'm not under a contract with my wisp so I can cancel and then go back if neccessary. I guess I could sell the 40' tower that I had to put up.
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Posted: 11/1/2020 2:39:40 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Before Starlink: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/356105/FA7B123D-FCA6-41C0-82C5-FFD7BEDDB1BE_png-1664198.JPG After Starlink: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/356105/AF72ECFB-887C-450E-A78C-FF6A0E7DE36D_png-1664199.JPG We've seen it hit 150 already. That’s amazing. And I was told by someone who is in the satellite Comunications business that what they are doing couldn’t be done. Boy was he wrong. |
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Posted: 11/1/2020 2:40:37 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Getting my Tmobile trial kit tomorrow. I do have service right now with a wisp and get around 12 mbps with a max of 15. The ping goes a little high though. If the Tmobile works, I'm not under a contract with my wisp so I can cancel and then go back if neccessary. I guess I could sell the 40' tower that I had to put up. I’m sure a local ham would love to have it. |
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Posted: 11/2/2020 10:10:37 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s amazing. And I was told by someone who is in the satellite Comunications business that what they are doing couldn’t be done. Boy was he wrong. Pretty much everything people said starlink couldn't do they've done, so I dont see why they won't keep on blowing it out of the water. |
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Posted: 11/2/2020 10:31:08 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Before Starlink: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/356105/FA7B123D-FCA6-41C0-82C5-FFD7BEDDB1BE_png-1664198.JPG After Starlink: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/356105/AF72ECFB-887C-450E-A78C-FF6A0E7DE36D_png-1664199.JPG We've seen it hit 150 already. I just went from around 8Mbps to ~100Mbps. Refreshing! That little antenna sure moved fast to track, too. It surprised me. |
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Posted: 11/3/2020 8:39:26 AM EST
[#45]
This morning I tested again. 146.6 - 148.3 Mbps over multiple tests. Ping in the neighborhood of 20-35ms. That seems more variable than the speed.
That's fantastic service! Leaps and bounds better than anything else I've tried here on both fronts. Lowest ping I have seen by 50+ ms and fastest speed by about 50% over the peak seen with cellular internet - except this speed is so far consistent. We'll see what happens over the coming weeks. |
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Posted: 11/3/2020 8:50:12 AM EST
[#46]
Hurry up Elon
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Posted: 11/3/2020 9:12:21 AM EST
[#47]
I got my Tmobile test device yesterday. I get around 25-30 mbps if its in an upstairs window. I think I'll stick to my wisp until Starlink gets up and running.
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Posted: 11/3/2020 10:28:05 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hurry up Elon Quote HistoryQuoted: Hurry up Elon An understandable thought! I'm more pleased with the fact that it's been put together well enough to be so usable right out of the gate - even though I would have appreciated it a few years ago! So far the biggest issue - and for me it's a non-issue - is that there are random signal drops. Every hour or two there's a period of half a second to two seconds where I get basically no signal at all. Generally by the time I notice it it's already back to full function. Quoted: I got my Tmobile test device yesterday. I get around 25-30 mbps if its in an upstairs window. I think I'll stick to my wisp until Starlink gets up and running. If you have a reliable local WISP without a low monthly cap - stick with it until something clearly better is available. Cellular internet was a necessary evil for me but I sure didn't enjoy it once all the issues became clear. |
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Posted: 11/3/2020 11:13:44 AM EST
[#49]
I'm hoping to get in on the starlink fun. I get 20down/2up and 50 ish ms with cell, but it is certainly variable. The property in question is at 48 degrees N -are they beta testing based on sign up date or latitude? |
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Posted: 11/3/2020 11:21:51 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm hoping to get in on the starlink fun. I get 20down/2up and 50 ish ms with cell, but it is certainly variable. The property in question is at 48 degrees N -are they beta testing based on sign up date or latitude? As far as I know - latitude. Not many beta testers per region either. I don't know anyone nearby who got in but I know dozens who signed up. |
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