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Posted: 5/17/2020 3:40:44 PM EDT
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Can't vouch for this, but it does tie in nicely to the info Imam Tawhidi (Imam of Peace) released about Ilhan Omar, Qatar, money and spying, a while back. Of course, it also may be a creative writing effort based upon that info.
https://conservativefeed.net/ilhan-omar-has-been-leaking-intel-to-iran/ Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 3:42:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Wildfowler: https://twitter.com/pixielicious731/status/1251351458739556352 I'm not on a cell phone at the moment like I normally am and thought I would help out the group by providing a working link to these drops. From the perspective of a cell phone user these drops won't tell you anything. And I'm not smart enough to know how to copy or type text from a pic into a separate internet browser to see what goodies may be hiding in there.... I just had a minute and was trying to help out. Thank you WF |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 3:54:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2020 3:56:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Snowden COULD have been considered a hero and patriot if all he absconded with and revealed was the overwhelming and over reaching government spying activities employed illegally against American citizens here in the US. However, what makes him a traitor is the massive troves of military classified documents, during war time, which he sold to and shared with both the Chinese and the Russians. Rightfully, you'll never hear much about specifics, unless you have a need to know and SC/TSC and above. It's highly likely that while HRC's home server dead drop sold SAP's and other intel to the Chinese, that Snowden's stolen and sold intel got assets in China (and other places) killed or burned, at the least. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Originally Posted By seek2: Yes, but that's old news and Q was getting at an explanation for future events. Going through the four pages Q mentions, one thing that's related to Flynn and the spygate spying stands out -- assuming Q is referencing PDF page numbers and not document page numbers, the section related to Snowden contacting more than 10 officials about problematic programs at NSA, and then later having issues and asking a lot of questions about his FISA 702 training and FISA targets. Just a theory, Snowden sees political spying, contacts officials about it and is ignored. The report then talks about him not using whistleblower procedures, later, right at the end of page 23 (PDF page 23, page 18 of report): I think it's safe to say that every single person that touched the spygate material violated that one. Big time. That would greatly increase the number of people implicated and create a lot of opportunity for prosecutors to gather evidence. Every contractor with access is now a party to the scam, and you just need one or two saying they were ordered by one of the big names to do it, and bam, there's a case. Another thought is, what if there's documentation that Snowden went to that list of more than 10 people specifically stating he observed political intelligence gathering of US persons in violation of the law? Every one of those people also needed to report this, and didn't. They're implicated as well. Snowden COULD have been considered a hero and patriot if all he absconded with and revealed was the overwhelming and over reaching government spying activities employed illegally against American citizens here in the US. However, what makes him a traitor is the massive troves of military classified documents, during war time, which he sold to and shared with both the Chinese and the Russians. Rightfully, you'll never hear much about specifics, unless you have a need to know and SC/TSC and above. It's highly likely that while HRC's home server dead drop sold SAP's and other intel to the Chinese, that Snowden's stolen and sold intel got assets in China (and other places) killed or burned, at the least. Unless he tried to release the privacy info and .gov spying in addition to the .mil documents, then get him allegedly for only leaking the privacy stuff, pretending the rest didn't exist. What all, exactly, he got out has been sort of a changing story of its own, though the left loved him for it it could have been all three and they still only agreed to make the privacy things the public reason for the MSM hate machine to manufacture some rage with. Still traitorous, but only a traitor the smallest crime while knowing of the political spying would make it worse and him more of a piece of shit than selling .mil secrets than revealing the election processed was hijacked. It is starting to sound almost like nobody but the lowliest secretary at FBI/CIA/NSA was not aware of the scale of malfeasance going on. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:01:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/196710/Capture4256_PNG-1420202.JPG 70 Days from today puts it at 7-26-2020 (+7?) so still before election. If we're on week three, then +49 days is 7-5-2020 (+7?) The +7? is due to not knowing if we are at beginning or end of "#3" with Sunday being first and last day of week depending on nation. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:02:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeInMediocrity: This sounds like doom porn. From the last link in the quote above: In addition, each prefilled syringe has the option to include an NFC chip that incorporates a secure unique ID number. This enables healthcare professionals at the point of care to use an app on their smartphones to verify that the drug being injected is authentic and unexpired. It also enables health authorities to know in real time when and where each dose is injected. NFC is a short range technology that cannot directly communicate with GPS satellites, cell towers, etc. It can, however, communicate with cell phones. If you read the article wording carefully, you will realize the RFID goes with the syringe and not the liquid vaccine.Yes, they want to microchip you, but I don't think it's a part of this particular Apiject contract. ETA: I guess there is a little doom to this. A serial number on each dose of vaccine would allow 87 different vaccines to be given. Who gets which vaccine would be recorded. It would be like a double blind clinical trial without anyone realizing it. Since most medical records and insurance claims are now computerized, it would be easy for someone to do an analysis years later and say, "Hmmmm..... Recipients of vaccine versions 1, 35, 74, 84 all got beetus, and a meat allergy."  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MeInMediocrity: Originally Posted By Crazy_Diamond: APIJET - RFID Tracking Post 9208215 11 hours ago • View on 8kun Whether the trackers are nano chips or not, they’re planning to inject trackers with the COVID-19 vaccine. The contractor is Apiject. This is their actual press release. The part about the RFID chip is buried toward the end in the “About” section. If there’s even a chance that they’re putting them in, it’s “Oh, HELL no!” And it appears that there’s a chance. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e99ca9bb5d9900a3b354c6e/t/5ebca7d0c5f9b404609a7673/1589422032364/ApiJect+Press+Release_200512.pdf The DOD’s press release is here. https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2184808/dod-awards-138-million-contract-enabling-prefilled-syringes-for-future-covid-19/source/GovDelivery/ The image is from this article: https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/dod-hhs-award-138-million-contract-apiject-systems-provide-prefilled-covid-19-vaccine-syringes-with-rfid-microchip-tracking/ This sounds like doom porn. From the last link in the quote above: In addition, each prefilled syringe has the option to include an NFC chip that incorporates a secure unique ID number. This enables healthcare professionals at the point of care to use an app on their smartphones to verify that the drug being injected is authentic and unexpired. It also enables health authorities to know in real time when and where each dose is injected. NFC is a short range technology that cannot directly communicate with GPS satellites, cell towers, etc. It can, however, communicate with cell phones. If you read the article wording carefully, you will realize the RFID goes with the syringe and not the liquid vaccine.Yes, they want to microchip you, but I don't think it's a part of this particular Apiject contract. ETA: I guess there is a little doom to this. A serial number on each dose of vaccine would allow 87 different vaccines to be given. Who gets which vaccine would be recorded. It would be like a double blind clinical trial without anyone realizing it. Since most medical records and insurance claims are now computerized, it would be easy for someone to do an analysis years later and say, "Hmmmm..... Recipients of vaccine versions 1, 35, 74, 84 all got beetus, and a meat allergy." Still a little too detailed of for my tastes. Either they got "Syringe, Vaccine QTY 1" or Not. Exactly which one doesn't matter, that's the whole idea behind mass production. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:10:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MCSquared: Crenshaw is soft on the 2nd Amendment, period. I don't like him. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MCSquared: Originally Posted By Gopher: Originally Posted By Torqued: This sounds like an interesting meeting.
Be careful on Crenshaw. He is soft on Red Flag laws. Crenshaw is soft on the 2nd Amendment, period. I don't like him. Agreed. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:12:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455:
When "they" describe someone or something as "off the rails", then you KNOW it is right on target. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:15:08 PM EDT
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Holy fuck Q is busy again.
On a Sunday. Nice. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:21:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Still a little too detailed of for my tastes. Either they got "Syringe, Vaccine QTY 1" or Not. Exactly which one doesn't matter, that's the whole idea behind mass production. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By MeInMediocrity: Originally Posted By Crazy_Diamond: APIJET - RFID Tracking Post 9208215 11 hours ago • View on 8kun Whether the trackers are nano chips or not, they’re planning to inject trackers with the COVID-19 vaccine. The contractor is Apiject. This is their actual press release. The part about the RFID chip is buried toward the end in the “About” section. If there’s even a chance that they’re putting them in, it’s “Oh, HELL no!” And it appears that there’s a chance. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e99ca9bb5d9900a3b354c6e/t/5ebca7d0c5f9b404609a7673/1589422032364/ApiJect+Press+Release_200512.pdf The DOD’s press release is here. https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2184808/dod-awards-138-million-contract-enabling-prefilled-syringes-for-future-covid-19/source/GovDelivery/ The image is from this article: https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/dod-hhs-award-138-million-contract-apiject-systems-provide-prefilled-covid-19-vaccine-syringes-with-rfid-microchip-tracking/ This sounds like doom porn. From the last link in the quote above: In addition, each prefilled syringe has the option to include an NFC chip that incorporates a secure unique ID number. This enables healthcare professionals at the point of care to use an app on their smartphones to verify that the drug being injected is authentic and unexpired. It also enables health authorities to know in real time when and where each dose is injected. NFC is a short range technology that cannot directly communicate with GPS satellites, cell towers, etc. It can, however, communicate with cell phones. If you read the article wording carefully, you will realize the RFID goes with the syringe and not the liquid vaccine.Yes, they want to microchip you, but I don't think it's a part of this particular Apiject contract. ETA: I guess there is a little doom to this. A serial number on each dose of vaccine would allow 87 different vaccines to be given. Who gets which vaccine would be recorded. It would be like a double blind clinical trial without anyone realizing it. Since most medical records and insurance claims are now computerized, it would be easy for someone to do an analysis years later and say, "Hmmmm..... Recipients of vaccine versions 1, 35, 74, 84 all got beetus, and a meat allergy." Still a little too detailed of for my tastes. Either they got "Syringe, Vaccine QTY 1" or Not. Exactly which one doesn't matter, that's the whole idea behind mass production. We have always documented vaccination manufacturer, drug, lot, and serial # in a person's permanent medical records, even before computerization of records occurred. That's why a vaccination documentation card could be cross referenced, It's just easier to find now. Supposedly the RFID with these Apiject syringes do the same thing, just cutting out the "middle man". I am concerned about micro nano identifiers withing the actual vaccine which I have no way of verifying or discrediting. It doesn't really matter to me as I will not be taking this vaccine for at least 3 years. The disease risk vs possible vaccine risk, with a new unobserved long term vaccine, is just not great enough to induce my agreement to receive it. We're all adults and have to weigh our individual risk aversion. ETA: These vaccines may end up being a blessing in disguise. I suspect most people who are eager to receive a COVID vaccination are democrats, leftists, and 'Karens'. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:26:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag: He can sit in a solitary cell until he changes his mind Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chadjetlag: Originally Posted By Holes: Originally Posted By sixnine: Originally Posted By Holes: Why don't they just go get him? We want answers. He has some. Fuck his feelings. He held a sensitive position. He should be compelled to testify in front of congress. Something. This crap of allowing anyone that wants to hide from the law behind a veil of “virus” is bullshit. I’m so fucking sick of people acting like Ebola is ravaging the Nation. It’s a flu. A bad flu if you’re old or have a bad immune system. That’s it. No one I know even knows of one single person that has had it. Not one. The risk to me is no different than shooting without safety glasses. 99.9% of the time you’ll be fine. .1% of the time the gun blows up in your face. Actually it’s probably a smaller percentage of danger. But you get the point. Do you constantly live in fear, of having to use your self defense weapon and not having your safety glasses handy? Or do you just live, and take a chance that you may have to fire a gun without eye protection on? Duh... He can sit in a solitary cell until he changes his mind I'm OK with that! |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:27:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazy_Diamond: APIJET - RFID Tracking Post 9208215 11 hours ago • View on 8kun Whether the trackers are nano chips or not, they’re planning to inject trackers with the COVID-19 vaccine. The contractor is Apiject. This is their actual press release. The part about the RFID chip is buried toward the end in the “About” section. If there’s even a chance that they’re putting them in, it’s “Oh, HELL no!” And it appears that there’s a chance. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e99ca9bb5d9900a3b354c6e/t/5ebca7d0c5f9b404609a7673/1589422032364/ApiJect+Press+Release_200512.pdf The DOD’s press release is here. https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2184808/dod-awards-138-million-contract-enabling-prefilled-syringes-for-future-covid-19/source/GovDelivery/ The image is from this article: https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/dod-hhs-award-138-million-contract-apiject-systems-provide-prefilled-covid-19-vaccine-syringes-with-rfid-microchip-tracking/ It's likely the RFID's are to facilitate inventory and use, not to inject into folks so they can be monitored by 5G towers. Smart move, and RFIDs are found in all sorts of things incl cigarette packaging, for a long time. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:27:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Snowden COULD have been considered a hero and patriot if all he absconded with and revealed was the overwhelming and over reaching government spying activities employed illegally against American citizens here in the US. However, what makes him a traitor is the massive troves of military classified documents, during war time, which he sold to and shared with both the Chinese and the Russians. Rightfully, you'll never hear much about specifics, unless you have a need to know and SC/TSC and above. It's highly likely that while HRC's home server dead drop sold SAP's and other intel to the Chinese, that Snowden's stolen and sold intel got assets in China (and other places) killed or burned, at the least. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Originally Posted By seek2: Yes, but that's old news and Q was getting at an explanation for future events. Going through the four pages Q mentions, one thing that's related to Flynn and the spygate spying stands out -- assuming Q is referencing PDF page numbers and not document page numbers, the section related to Snowden contacting more than 10 officials about problematic programs at NSA, and then later having issues and asking a lot of questions about his FISA 702 training and FISA targets. Just a theory, Snowden sees political spying, contacts officials about it and is ignored. The report then talks about him not using whistleblower procedures, later, right at the end of page 23 (PDF page 23, page 18 of report): I think it's safe to say that every single person that touched the spygate material violated that one. Big time. That would greatly increase the number of people implicated and create a lot of opportunity for prosecutors to gather evidence. Every contractor with access is now a party to the scam, and you just need one or two saying they were ordered by one of the big names to do it, and bam, there's a case. Another thought is, what if there's documentation that Snowden went to that list of more than 10 people specifically stating he observed political intelligence gathering of US persons in violation of the law? Every one of those people also needed to report this, and didn't. They're implicated as well. Snowden COULD have been considered a hero and patriot if all he absconded with and revealed was the overwhelming and over reaching government spying activities employed illegally against American citizens here in the US. However, what makes him a traitor is the massive troves of military classified documents, during war time, which he sold to and shared with both the Chinese and the Russians. Rightfully, you'll never hear much about specifics, unless you have a need to know and SC/TSC and above. It's highly likely that while HRC's home server dead drop sold SAP's and other intel to the Chinese, that Snowden's stolen and sold intel got assets in China (and other places) killed or burned, at the least. Could be this angle, as well. Zero/Hillary sold the .mil secrets and Snowden was trying to get the political and privacy spying into the public eye. They talk and charge him for their crimes; knowing nobody would believe the scale and breadth of their deeds which some in the US still fail to grasp/comprehend today. Then he can be hidden in jail until he's made happy, nullified, or dead. I don't even know anymore, really. This would make more sense than what I was spitballing earlier, it fills some 'rage gaps'. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:29:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: unconfirmed reports but still worth watching.
Well then... Guess our Navy is up to the task... 
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:36:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Holes: Well then... Guess our Navy is up to the task...
https://apnews.com/57184c74c507fed89af6a732ce4592c2 DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Five Iranian tankers likely carrying at least $45.5 million worth of gasoline and similar products are now sailing to Venezuela, part of a wider deal between the two U.S.-sanctioned nations amid heightened tensions between Tehran and Washington. The tankers’ voyage came after Venezuela’s socialist leader Nicolás Maduro already turned to Iran for help in flying in chemicals needed at an aging refinery amid a gasoline shortage, a symptom of the wider economic and political chaos gripping Latin America’s one-time largest oil producer. For Iran, the tankers represent a way to bring money into its cash-starved Shiite theocracy and put its own pressure on the U.S., which under President Donald Trump has pursued maximalist campaigns against both nations. But the strategy invites the chance of a renewed confrontation between the Islamic Republic and America both in the Persian Gulf, which saw a series of escalating incidents often involving the oil industry last year, and wider afield. “This is like a new one for everyone,” said Capt. Ranjith Raja, an analyst who tracks oil shipments by sea at the data firm Refinitiv, of the gasoline shipments. “We haven’t seen anything like this before.” All the vessels involved belong to Iranian state-owned or state-linked companies, flying under the Iranian flag. Since a pressure campaign on Iranian vessels began, notably with the temporary seizure of an Iranian tanker last year by Gibraltar, the country’s ships have been unable to fly flags of convenience of other nations, a common practice in international shipping. The ships all appear to have been loaded from the Persian Gulf Star Refinery near Bandar Abbas, Iran, which makes gasoline, Raja said. The ships then traveled around the Arabian Peninsula and through the Suez Canal into the Mediterranean Sea, according to data collected from the ship’s Automatic Identification System, or AIS, which acts as a tracking beacon. One of the vessels, the Clavel, listed its AIS destination as Caracas beginning May 12, according to log data from ship-tracking website MarineTraffic.com. The vessel later changed its destination as “TO ORDER” two days later, though the ship remains on a route that will see it leave the Mediterranean Sea and be in position to sail on to Venezuela. Another tanker, the Forest, changed its AIS destination to “S. AMERICA TO ORDER” on May 14. Three others, the Faxon, the Fortune and the Petunia, all appear on routes that could take them to Venezuela. Given the crushing U.S. sanctions imposed on Iran, also-sanctioned Venezuela appears to be the country that would have nothing to lose from accepting the shipments. Raja said Refinitiv had no data on any Iranian gasoline shipment ever going to South America before. TankerTrackers.com, a website focused on the oil trade at sea, first reported the ships likely were heading to Venezuela. The capacity of the five ships is some 175,000 metric tons. On the open market, the gasoline and product carried within them would be worth at least $45.5 million, though Iran likely reached a discounted, non-cash deal with Caracas given the circumstances the two nations face, Raja said. As news about the tankers grew, an Iranian news agency called Nour, believed to have ties to the country’s Supreme National Security Council, published an item on its website early Saturday trying to link a U.S. military exercise in the Caribbean to the tankers. That council includes members of Iran’s civilian government, its military and its paramilitary, hard-line Revolutionary Guard. “If the United States, like pirates, intends to create insecurity on international highways, it will take a dangerous risk that will certainly not go unnoticed,” the agency warned in its brief report. The Nour item, later picked up by other semiofficial news agencies in Iran, follows a pattern by Tehran of issuing veiled threats through such reports even as officials don’t directly acknowledge them. Quoted by a website affiliated to Iranian state television, Cabinet spokesman Ali Rabiei on Saturday said he did not have any information on the ships. “We have to sell our oil and we have access to its paths,” Rabiei said. “Iran and Venezuela are two independent nations that have had trade with each other and they will” in the future. But that all changed late Sunday, when Iran’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif wrote a letter to U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres saying the U.S. “piracy” threatened the “disruption of Iran’s fuel transmission to Venezuela.” Abbas Araghchi, Iran’s deputy foreign minister, issued a similar warning to the Swiss ambassador in Tehran, who looks out for American interests there. It remains unclear how the U.S. will respond to the tankers. On Thursday, the U.S. Treasury, State Department and Coast Guard issued an advisory warning the maritime industry of illegal shipping and sanctions-dodging tactics by countries including Iran. The advisory repeated an earlier promise of up to $15 million for information disrupting the Guard’s finances. It also warned anyone “knowingly engaged in a significant transaction for the purchase, acquisition, sale, transport or marketing of petroleum” faced U.S. sanctions. U.S. Army Maj. Rob Lodewick, a Pentagon spokesman, declined to comment on the Iranian vessels. He referred questions to the State Department, which did not immediately respond. Analysts already have been warning about the growing chance for a renewed confrontation between the U.S. and Iran, whose government downplayed and then struggled for weeks with the coronavirus pandemic. In April, the U.S. accused Iran of conducting “dangerous and harassing” maneuvers near American warships in the northern Persian Gulf. Iran also had been suspected of briefly seizing a Hong Kong-flagged oil tanker just before that. Iran seized ships last summer and the U.S. accuses it of attacking tankers in the region amid tensions over Trump unilaterally withdrawing America from Tehran’s nuclear deal with world powers in 2018. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:37:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Holes: Why don’t they just go get him? We want answers. He has some. Fuck his feelings. He held a sensitive position. He should be compelled to testify in front of congress. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Holes: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Why don’t they just go get him? We want answers. He has some. Fuck his feelings. He held a sensitive position. He should be compelled to testify in front of congress. Isn’t it telling that he believes he gets to call the shots ? |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:53:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Isn’t it telling that he believes he gets to call the shots ? Well, he is, they all are |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 4:57:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Isn’t it telling that he believes he gets to call the shots ? Meh, waste of time and political capitol to drag Clapper in to congress. He'll just lie to them like he's done in the past and all the lefties will believe him. The worst congress can do to him is contempt of congress and/or a referral to DOJ. Well, DOJ is already investigating and heading toward prosecution. We already know the truth and so does the left if they're honest with themselves (which they are not). Last thing we need for a serious case with legitimate crimes and prosecutions is another congressional dog and pony show to de-legitimize the situation . May be unpopular, but it is my opinion (and ya'll know I want every single one of them hanging from ropes). |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 5:18:04 PM EDT
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Why do the health officials not look very healthy looking?
 Why would I follow the advice about health from someone that obviously does not take care of their own health?   " />
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Posted: 5/17/2020 5:25:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Multiply this by millions of folks. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EXPY37: Originally Posted By JackalAR: The recent news about Flynn and double down on COVID mania has my father lashing out with the nastiest of name calling, committed to 2-3 more years holed up in his trailer, on xanax, and emergency blood pressure pills, and still wanting to martyr himself to prove that Trump is literally killing everyone, and me for supporting him and not gobbling up CNN misinformation. His doc tried to get him to see a therapist and he declined. Evidently not buying into the conspiracy theories is being a conspiracy theorist. It sounds like others at work are experiencing similar issues with their families, just not quite so bad yet. Also, we are all due back in the office starting in June and it sounds like most of the Karens at work are beside themselves with anxiety and demanding more strict rules be enforced. I have a feeling shit is going to get VERY interesting just in the coming weeks, let alone months. Holy shit. Multiply this by millions of folks. The sad thing about this is that (speaking for myself, though obviously I'm not the only one in this boat) Dad raised me to question the news and the government, to trust nothing they say, to follow the money/power, and filter my votes through the Constitution. Now the man who guided me down this path, and God bless him for it, has flipped. Trump is "the most piss-ignorant elitist sonofabitch in history," as if Obama never occupied the Oval Office. Calling out the MSM on their bullshit is "treasonous". Politically, I no longer recognize my own father. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 5:29:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Meh, waste of time and political capitol to drag Clapper in to congress. He'll just lie to them like he's done in the past and all the lefties will believe him. The worst congress can do to him is contempt of congress and/or a referral to DOJ. Well, DOJ is already investigating and heading toward prosecution. We already know the truth and so does the left if they're honest with themselves (which they are not). Last thing we need for a serious case with legitimate crimes and prosecutions is another congressional dog and pony show to de-legitimize the situation . May be unpopular, but it is my opinion (and ya'll know I want every single one of them hanging from ropes). At best, it'd be Oliver North 2.0.. "I do not recall...." Quoted: The sad thing about this is that (speaking for myself, though obviously I'm not the only one in this boat) Dad raised me to question the news and the government, to trust nothing they say, to follow the money/power, and filter my votes through the Constitution. Now the man who guided me down this path, and God bless him for it, has flipped. Trump is "the most piss-ignorant elitist sonofabitch in history," as if Obama never occupied the Oval Office. Calling out the MSM on their bullshit is "treasonous". Politically, I no longer recognize my own father. The MSM is Very good at what they do. They still have many, though it would seem they're losing more than gaining as their fervor rises. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 5:30:10 PM EDT
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Prayers for the firefighters from LA yesterday, please.
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Posted: 5/17/2020 5:43:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By togadelic: Waiting for the public to wake up and be done with this shit Stick of hearing New normal Troubling times Uncertain times Crisis The narrative is obvious is obvious is obvious Disgusting Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By togadelic: Originally Posted By Holes: Something. This crap of allowing anyone that wants to hide from the law behind a veil of “virus” is bullshit. I’m so fucking sick of people acting like Ebola is ravaging the Nation. It’s a flu. A bad flu if you’re old or have a bad immune system. That’s it. No one I know even knows of one single person that has had it. Not one. The risk to me is no different than shooting without safety glasses. 99.9% of the time you’ll be fine. .1% of the time the gun blows up in your face. Actually it’s probably a smaller percentage of danger. But you get the point. Do you constantly live in fear, of having to use your self defense weapon and not having your safety glasses handy? Or do you just live, and take a chance that you may have to fire a gun without eye protection on? Duh... Waiting for the public to wake up and be done with this shit Stick of hearing New normal Troubling times Uncertain times Crisis The narrative is obvious is obvious is obvious Disgusting Disgusting that Trump is going along with it |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 6:03:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2020 6:05:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crazy_Diamond: APIJET - RFID Tracking Post 9208215 11 hours ago • View on 8kun Whether the trackers are nano chips or not, they’re planning to inject trackers with the COVID-19 vaccine. The contractor is Apiject. This is their actual press release. The part about the RFID chip is buried toward the end in the “About” section. If there’s even a chance that they’re putting them in, it’s “Oh, HELL no!” And it appears that there’s a chance. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e99ca9bb5d9900a3b354c6e/t/5ebca7d0c5f9b404609a7673/1589422032364/ApiJect+Press+Release_200512.pdf The DOD’s press release is here. https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2184808/dod-awards-138-million-contract-enabling-prefilled-syringes-for-future-covid-19/source/GovDelivery/ The image is from this article: https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/dod-hhs-award-138-million-contract-apiject-systems-provide-prefilled-covid-19-vaccine-syringes-with-rfid-microchip-tracking/ Reading the article it seems to be saying each BFS syringe has an RFID embedded for NDC, lot and administration tracking, not in the vaccine itself for people tracking. If more information comes out that RFID is in the vaccine and mandatory, well that’s a Mark of the Beast game changer worthy of full scale rebellion. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 6:21:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: We have always documented vaccination manufacturer, drug, lot, and serial # in a person's permanent medical records, even before computerization of records occurred. That's why a vaccination documentation card could be cross referenced, It's just easier to find now. Supposedly the RFID with these Apiject syringes do the same thing, just cutting out the "middle man". I am concerned about micro nano identifiers withing the actual vaccine which I have no way of verifying or discrediting. It doesn't really matter to me as I will not be taking this vaccine for at least 3 years. The disease risk vs possible vaccine risk, with a new unobserved long term vaccine, is just not great enough to induce my agreement to receive it. We're all adults and have to weigh our individual risk aversion. ETA: These vaccines may end up being a blessing in disguise. I suspect most people who are eager to receive a COVID vaccination are democrats, leftists, and 'Karens'. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By MeInMediocrity: Originally Posted By Crazy_Diamond: APIJET - RFID Tracking Post 9208215 11 hours ago • View on 8kun Whether the trackers are nano chips or not, they’re planning to inject trackers with the COVID-19 vaccine. The contractor is Apiject. This is their actual press release. The part about the RFID chip is buried toward the end in the “About” section. If there’s even a chance that they’re putting them in, it’s “Oh, HELL no!” And it appears that there’s a chance. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e99ca9bb5d9900a3b354c6e/t/5ebca7d0c5f9b404609a7673/1589422032364/ApiJect+Press+Release_200512.pdf The DOD’s press release is here. https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2184808/dod-awards-138-million-contract-enabling-prefilled-syringes-for-future-covid-19/source/GovDelivery/ The image is from this article: https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/dod-hhs-award-138-million-contract-apiject-systems-provide-prefilled-covid-19-vaccine-syringes-with-rfid-microchip-tracking/ This sounds like doom porn. From the last link in the quote above: In addition, each prefilled syringe has the option to include an NFC chip that incorporates a secure unique ID number. This enables healthcare professionals at the point of care to use an app on their smartphones to verify that the drug being injected is authentic and unexpired. It also enables health authorities to know in real time when and where each dose is injected. NFC is a short range technology that cannot directly communicate with GPS satellites, cell towers, etc. It can, however, communicate with cell phones. If you read the article wording carefully, you will realize the RFID goes with the syringe and not the liquid vaccine.Yes, they want to microchip you, but I don't think it's a part of this particular Apiject contract. ETA: I guess there is a little doom to this. A serial number on each dose of vaccine would allow 87 different vaccines to be given. Who gets which vaccine would be recorded. It would be like a double blind clinical trial without anyone realizing it. Since most medical records and insurance claims are now computerized, it would be easy for someone to do an analysis years later and say, "Hmmmm..... Recipients of vaccine versions 1, 35, 74, 84 all got beetus, and a meat allergy." Still a little too detailed of for my tastes. Either they got "Syringe, Vaccine QTY 1" or Not. Exactly which one doesn't matter, that's the whole idea behind mass production. We have always documented vaccination manufacturer, drug, lot, and serial # in a person's permanent medical records, even before computerization of records occurred. That's why a vaccination documentation card could be cross referenced, It's just easier to find now. Supposedly the RFID with these Apiject syringes do the same thing, just cutting out the "middle man". I am concerned about micro nano identifiers withing the actual vaccine which I have no way of verifying or discrediting. It doesn't really matter to me as I will not be taking this vaccine for at least 3 years. The disease risk vs possible vaccine risk, with a new unobserved long term vaccine, is just not great enough to induce my agreement to receive it. We're all adults and have to weigh our individual risk aversion. ETA: These vaccines may end up being a blessing in disguise. I suspect most people who are eager to receive a COVID vaccination are democrats, leftists, and 'Karens'. What about military? Not stoked about the prospect of another vaccine... |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 6:38:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnvwguy02: Reading the article it seems to be saying each BFS syringe has an RFID embedded for NDC, lot and administration tracking, not in the vaccine itself for people tracking. If more information comes out that RFID is in the vaccine and mandatory, well that’s a Mark of the Beast game changer worthy of full scale rebellion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnvwguy02: Originally Posted By Crazy_Diamond: APIJET - RFID Tracking Post 9208215 11 hours ago • View on 8kun Whether the trackers are nano chips or not, they’re planning to inject trackers with the COVID-19 vaccine. The contractor is Apiject. This is their actual press release. The part about the RFID chip is buried toward the end in the “About” section. If there’s even a chance that they’re putting them in, it’s “Oh, HELL no!” And it appears that there’s a chance. https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5e99ca9bb5d9900a3b354c6e/t/5ebca7d0c5f9b404609a7673/1589422032364/ApiJect+Press+Release_200512.pdf The DOD’s press release is here. https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2184808/dod-awards-138-million-contract-enabling-prefilled-syringes-for-future-covid-19/source/GovDelivery/ The image is from this article: https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/dod-hhs-award-138-million-contract-apiject-systems-provide-prefilled-covid-19-vaccine-syringes-with-rfid-microchip-tracking/ Reading the article it seems to be saying each BFS syringe has an RFID embedded for NDC, lot and administration tracking, not in the vaccine itself for people tracking. If more information comes out that RFID is in the vaccine and mandatory, well that’s a Mark of the Beast game changer worthy of full scale rebellion. Thats how I understood it |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 6:41:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Snowden COULD have been considered a hero and patriot if all he absconded with and revealed was the overwhelming and over reaching government spying activities employed illegally against American citizens here in the US. However, what makes him a traitor is the massive troves of military classified documents, during war time, which he sold to and shared with both the Chinese and the Russians. Rightfully, you'll never hear much about specifics, unless you have a need to know and SC/TSC and above. It's highly likely that while HRC's home server dead drop sold SAP's and other intel to the Chinese, that Snowden's stolen and sold intel got assets in China (and other places) killed or burned, at the least. What if Snowden was a good guy and they used him as a smokescreen for their selling of shit from the home server? |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:26:13 PM EDT
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Latest Fear (Reason to change election/candidates/anything)
US 'would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific, is unable to defend Taiwan from an invasion and there are fears the Guam military base is at risk NOW', Pentagon sources warn • 'Eye-opening' Pentagon war games revealed the US is vulnerable to China and an attack from the superpower would lead to the US 'suffering capital losses' • US defense sources told The Times that one Pentagon simulation based on the year 2030 resulted in the US being overwhelmed by the nation's force • Every US base in the Indo-Pacific Command region is considered to be at risk of attack now with the US island territory Guam a particular concern • Taiwan is the 'most volatile issue' between the two nations, sources said • A source said the Pentagon is developing more hypersonic weapons and arming marine units along China's seas with anti-ship missiles in preparation • The worrying analysis is expected to come to light in the Pentagon's 2020 China military power report this summer • Tensions between the US and China have escalated in recent months as the coronavirus pandemic has ravaged the globe The US would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific, is unable to defend Taiwan from an invasion and fears the Guam military base is at risk now, US defense sources have warned. 'Eye-opening' Pentagon war games have revealed growing fears the US is vulnerable to threats from China and that any attack would lead to the US 'suffering capital losses', the sources said. The worrying analysis is expected to come to light in the Pentagon's 2020 China military power report this summer. The stark warning comes as tensions continue to mount between the two nations after US President Donald Trump has blasted China's handling of the coronavirus pandemic and repeatedly suggested the nation lied about the extent of its crisis. US defense sources told The Times that one Pentagon simulation based on the year 2030 when China would have new attack submarines, aircraft carriers and destroyers resulted in the US being overwhelmed by the nation's force. The threat is more immediate than 2030, however, with every US base in the Indo-Pacific Command region considered to be at risk of attack now because China has ramped up its supply of medium-range ballistic missiles. The US island territory Guam, home to three US military bases, is a particular concern, the games revealed. 'China has long-range anti-ship ballistic missiles and hypersonic [more than five times the speed of sound] missiles,' one US defence source told The Times. Analysis from US experts on China have issued similar warnings. Bonnie Glaser, director of the China power project at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies in Washington and a consultant for the US government on east Asia, told The Times that Taiwan is the 'most volatile issue' between the two nations and fears tensions could erupt in a nuclear war. Taiwan has increasingly found itself caught in the middle of the political games between the two superpowers. The Communist Party in China claims Taiwan as its own territory, but it does not have sovereign control there. Chinese President Xi Jinping has made it clear he wants Taiwan back under its 'One China' principle by 2050 and this week demanded the island accept Chinese status if it wants to be represented at the World Health Organization assembly next week. Beijing military activities have been ramped up in the South and East China Seas, including harassing carriers and constructing military outposts on artificial islands it has built in the disputed waters. (More at link...) |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:29:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prayers for the firefighters from LA yesterday, please.
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:34:16 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:35:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kooterthegoat: What about military? Not stoked about the prospect of another vaccine... Honestly, I am encouraged and hopeful this burns out, in the US at least. Maybe it returns in ~ late November, but??? who knows. I'd like to think that DOD would carefully think through their strategy on this vaccination, perhaps only administering to military members who may be going into a "hot spot" country. Unfortunately with many years experience with the US Army and their thinking, that's not so likely. Has there been more than the one death from the TR? That just doesn't seem like justification for another mandatory military vaccination at this stage. I lost track how many my now ex-husband, & still best friend, had by 10 years in, much less 25 yrs, LOL. I'm not anti-vax but I do think there is a chance some had something to do with my 5 miscarriages. I'd much rather research & develop go slow, take their time and see proper randomized double blind human trials with observatory time for side and longer term effects before anyone is vaccinated. We'll have to see if that is possible. ETA: In the meantime, Put everyone on "Trump's malaria cocktail" for prevention and weird dreams? 
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:37:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:40:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joshdb50: What if Snowden was a good guy and they used him as a smokescreen for their selling of shit from the home server? I don't rule that out and try to not be married to any theory. From what I know at this time, I still believe that Russia would not have provided Snowden a long term home if they were not getting something out of it. If Snowden were a well loved American hero, of course, they'd keep him there to piss us off, LOL. I am more suspicious now though than I was and if I get more evidence he's a good guy...I'm not embarrassed to admit I was wrong. 
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:43:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse:
https://apnews.com/57184c74c507fed89af6a732ce4592c2 DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Five Iranian tankers likely carrying at least $45.5 million worth of gasoline and similar products are now sailing to Venezuela, part of a wider deal between the two U.S.-sanctioned nations amid heightened tensions between Tehran and Washington. The tankers’ voyage came after Venezuela’s socialist leader Nicolás Maduro already turned to Iran for help in flying in chemicals needed at an aging refinery amid a gasoline shortage, a symptom of the wider economic and political chaos gripping Latin America’s one-time largest oil producer. For Iran, the tankers represent a way to bring money into its cash-starved Shiite theocracy and put its own pressure on the U.S., which under President Donald Trump has pursued maximalist campaigns against both nations. But the strategy invites the chance of a renewed confrontation between the Islamic Republic and America both in the Persian Gulf, which saw a series of escalating incidents often involving the oil industry last year, and wider afield. “This is like a new one for everyone,” said Capt. Ranjith Raja, an analyst who tracks oil shipments by sea at the data firm Refinitiv, of the gasoline shipments. “We haven’t seen anything like this before.” All the vessels involved belong to Iranian state-owned or state-linked companies, flying under the Iranian flag. Since a pressure campaign on Iranian vessels began, notably with the temporary seizure of an Iranian tanker last year by Gibraltar, the country’s ships have been unable to fly flags of convenience of other nations, a common practice in international shipping. The ships all appear to have been loaded from the Persian Gulf Star Refinery near Bandar Abbas, Iran, which makes gasoline, Raja said. The ships then traveled around the Arabian Peninsula and through the Suez Canal into the Mediterranean Sea, according to data collected from the ship’s Automatic Identification System, or AIS, which acts as a tracking beacon. One of the vessels, the Clavel, listed its AIS destination as Caracas beginning May 12, according to log data from ship-tracking website MarineTraffic.com. The vessel later changed its destination as “TO ORDER” two days later, though the ship remains on a route that will see it leave the Mediterranean Sea and be in position to sail on to Venezuela. Another tanker, the Forest, changed its AIS destination to “S. AMERICA TO ORDER” on May 14. Three others, the Faxon, the Fortune and the Petunia, all appear on routes that could take them to Venezuela. Given the crushing U.S. sanctions imposed on Iran, also-sanctioned Venezuela appears to be the country that would have nothing to lose from accepting the shipments. Raja said Refinitiv had no data on any Iranian gasoline shipment ever going to South America before. TankerTrackers.com, a website focused on the oil trade at sea, first reported the ships likely were heading to Venezuela. The capacity of the five ships is some 175,000 metric tons. On the open market, the gasoline and product carried within them would be worth at least $45.5 million, though Iran likely reached a discounted, non-cash deal with Caracas given the circumstances the two nations face, Raja said. As news about the tankers grew, an Iranian news agency called Nour, believed to have ties to the country’s Supreme National Security Council, published an item on its website early Saturday trying to link a U.S. military exercise in the Caribbean to the tankers. That council includes members of Iran’s civilian government, its military and its paramilitary, hard-line Revolutionary Guard. “If the United States, like pirates, intends to create insecurity on international highways, it will take a dangerous risk that will certainly not go unnoticed,” the agency warned in its brief report. The Nour item, later picked up by other semiofficial news agencies in Iran, follows a pattern by Tehran of issuing veiled threats through such reports even as officials don’t directly acknowledge them. Quoted by a website affiliated to Iranian state television, Cabinet spokesman Ali Rabiei on Saturday said he did not have any information on the ships. “We have to sell our oil and we have access to its paths,” Rabiei said. “Iran and Venezuela are two independent nations that have had trade with each other and they will” in the future. But that all changed late Sunday, when Iran’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif wrote a letter to U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres saying the U.S. “piracy” threatened the “disruption of Iran’s fuel transmission to Venezuela.” Abbas Araghchi, Iran’s deputy foreign minister, issued a similar warning to the Swiss ambassador in Tehran, who looks out for American interests there. It remains unclear how the U.S. will respond to the tankers. On Thursday, the U.S. Treasury, State Department and Coast Guard issued an advisory warning the maritime industry of illegal shipping and sanctions-dodging tactics by countries including Iran. The advisory repeated an earlier promise of up to $15 million for information disrupting the Guard’s finances. It also warned anyone “knowingly engaged in a significant transaction for the purchase, acquisition, sale, transport or marketing of petroleum” faced U.S. sanctions. U.S. Army Maj. Rob Lodewick, a Pentagon spokesman, declined to comment on the Iranian vessels. He referred questions to the State Department, which did not immediately respond. Analysts already have been warning about the growing chance for a renewed confrontation between the U.S. and Iran, whose government downplayed and then struggled for weeks with the coronavirus pandemic. In April, the U.S. accused Iran of conducting “dangerous and harassing” maneuvers near American warships in the northern Persian Gulf. Iran also had been suspected of briefly seizing a Hong Kong-flagged oil tanker just before that. Iran seized ships last summer and the U.S. accuses it of attacking tankers in the region amid tensions over Trump unilaterally withdrawing America from Tehran’s nuclear deal with world powers in 2018. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Originally Posted By Holes: Well then... Guess our Navy is up to the task...
https://apnews.com/57184c74c507fed89af6a732ce4592c2 DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Five Iranian tankers likely carrying at least $45.5 million worth of gasoline and similar products are now sailing to Venezuela, part of a wider deal between the two U.S.-sanctioned nations amid heightened tensions between Tehran and Washington. The tankers’ voyage came after Venezuela’s socialist leader Nicolás Maduro already turned to Iran for help in flying in chemicals needed at an aging refinery amid a gasoline shortage, a symptom of the wider economic and political chaos gripping Latin America’s one-time largest oil producer. For Iran, the tankers represent a way to bring money into its cash-starved Shiite theocracy and put its own pressure on the U.S., which under President Donald Trump has pursued maximalist campaigns against both nations. But the strategy invites the chance of a renewed confrontation between the Islamic Republic and America both in the Persian Gulf, which saw a series of escalating incidents often involving the oil industry last year, and wider afield. “This is like a new one for everyone,” said Capt. Ranjith Raja, an analyst who tracks oil shipments by sea at the data firm Refinitiv, of the gasoline shipments. “We haven’t seen anything like this before.” All the vessels involved belong to Iranian state-owned or state-linked companies, flying under the Iranian flag. Since a pressure campaign on Iranian vessels began, notably with the temporary seizure of an Iranian tanker last year by Gibraltar, the country’s ships have been unable to fly flags of convenience of other nations, a common practice in international shipping. The ships all appear to have been loaded from the Persian Gulf Star Refinery near Bandar Abbas, Iran, which makes gasoline, Raja said. The ships then traveled around the Arabian Peninsula and through the Suez Canal into the Mediterranean Sea, according to data collected from the ship’s Automatic Identification System, or AIS, which acts as a tracking beacon. One of the vessels, the Clavel, listed its AIS destination as Caracas beginning May 12, according to log data from ship-tracking website MarineTraffic.com. The vessel later changed its destination as “TO ORDER” two days later, though the ship remains on a route that will see it leave the Mediterranean Sea and be in position to sail on to Venezuela. Another tanker, the Forest, changed its AIS destination to “S. AMERICA TO ORDER” on May 14. Three others, the Faxon, the Fortune and the Petunia, all appear on routes that could take them to Venezuela. Given the crushing U.S. sanctions imposed on Iran, also-sanctioned Venezuela appears to be the country that would have nothing to lose from accepting the shipments. Raja said Refinitiv had no data on any Iranian gasoline shipment ever going to South America before. TankerTrackers.com, a website focused on the oil trade at sea, first reported the ships likely were heading to Venezuela. The capacity of the five ships is some 175,000 metric tons. On the open market, the gasoline and product carried within them would be worth at least $45.5 million, though Iran likely reached a discounted, non-cash deal with Caracas given the circumstances the two nations face, Raja said. As news about the tankers grew, an Iranian news agency called Nour, believed to have ties to the country’s Supreme National Security Council, published an item on its website early Saturday trying to link a U.S. military exercise in the Caribbean to the tankers. That council includes members of Iran’s civilian government, its military and its paramilitary, hard-line Revolutionary Guard. “If the United States, like pirates, intends to create insecurity on international highways, it will take a dangerous risk that will certainly not go unnoticed,” the agency warned in its brief report. The Nour item, later picked up by other semiofficial news agencies in Iran, follows a pattern by Tehran of issuing veiled threats through such reports even as officials don’t directly acknowledge them. Quoted by a website affiliated to Iranian state television, Cabinet spokesman Ali Rabiei on Saturday said he did not have any information on the ships. “We have to sell our oil and we have access to its paths,” Rabiei said. “Iran and Venezuela are two independent nations that have had trade with each other and they will” in the future. But that all changed late Sunday, when Iran’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement saying Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif wrote a letter to U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres saying the U.S. “piracy” threatened the “disruption of Iran’s fuel transmission to Venezuela.” Abbas Araghchi, Iran’s deputy foreign minister, issued a similar warning to the Swiss ambassador in Tehran, who looks out for American interests there. It remains unclear how the U.S. will respond to the tankers. On Thursday, the U.S. Treasury, State Department and Coast Guard issued an advisory warning the maritime industry of illegal shipping and sanctions-dodging tactics by countries including Iran. The advisory repeated an earlier promise of up to $15 million for information disrupting the Guard’s finances. It also warned anyone “knowingly engaged in a significant transaction for the purchase, acquisition, sale, transport or marketing of petroleum” faced U.S. sanctions. U.S. Army Maj. Rob Lodewick, a Pentagon spokesman, declined to comment on the Iranian vessels. He referred questions to the State Department, which did not immediately respond. Analysts already have been warning about the growing chance for a renewed confrontation between the U.S. and Iran, whose government downplayed and then struggled for weeks with the coronavirus pandemic. In April, the U.S. accused Iran of conducting “dangerous and harassing” maneuvers near American warships in the northern Persian Gulf. Iran also had been suspected of briefly seizing a Hong Kong-flagged oil tanker just before that. Iran seized ships last summer and the U.S. accuses it of attacking tankers in the region amid tensions over Trump unilaterally withdrawing America from Tehran’s nuclear deal with world powers in 2018. Venezuela is a net petroleum exporter, so why is Iran sending petrol products there? |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:44:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Isn’t it telling that he believes he gets to call the shots ? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tree-hugger: Originally Posted By Holes: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
Why don’t they just go get him? We want answers. He has some. Fuck his feelings. He held a sensitive position. He should be compelled to testify in front of congress. Isn’t it telling that he believes he gets to call the shots ? Indeed |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:44:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dphill: Well, he is, they all are Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dphill: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Isn’t it telling that he believes he gets to call the shots ? Well, he is, they all are Agreed. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:46:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MCSquared: Venezuela is a net petroleum exporter, so why is Iran sending petrol products there? It's refined gasoline and Venezuela's refinery's are no longer repairable and functional (from what I've read). |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:46:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Meh, waste of time and political capitol to drag Clapper in to congress. He'll just lie to them like he's done in the past and all the lefties will believe him. The worst congress can do to him is contempt of congress and/or a referral to DOJ. Well, DOJ is already investigating and heading toward prosecution. We already know the truth and so does the left if they're honest with themselves (which they are not). Last thing we need for a serious case with legitimate crimes and prosecutions is another congressional dog and pony show to de-legitimize the situation . May be unpopular, but it is my opinion (and ya'll know I want every single one of them hanging from ropes). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: Originally Posted By tree-hugger: Isn’t it telling that he believes he gets to call the shots ? Meh, waste of time and political capitol to drag Clapper in to congress. He'll just lie to them like he's done in the past and all the lefties will believe him. The worst congress can do to him is contempt of congress and/or a referral to DOJ. Well, DOJ is already investigating and heading toward prosecution. We already know the truth and so does the left if they're honest with themselves (which they are not). Last thing we need for a serious case with legitimate crimes and prosecutions is another congressional dog and pony show to de-legitimize the situation . May be unpopular, but it is my opinion (and ya'll know I want every single one of them hanging from ropes). But why? Why is it a waste of time to hold someone to their work/responsibilities? He knows what went on. We want answers. It’s seriously time we started getting some answers. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:47:58 PM EDT
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Venezuela exports crude, but must import refined products as their facilities faulter.
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:51:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MCSquared: Venezuela is a net petroleum exporter, so why is Iran sending petrol products there? That dropped off a LOT. Will update when I find the chart. https://tradingeconomics.com/venezuela/crude-oil-production  Attached FileSorry for no axis labels on the screencap. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 7:56:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MCSquared: Venezuela is a net petroleum exporter, so why is Iran sending petrol products there? Because Socialism is sooooo good. They used up all of the value and have crippled the country that once had the third highest GDP in the Americas. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Because Socialism is sooooo good. They used up all of the value and have crippled the country that once had the third highest GDP in the Americas. Yep. Stole the oil industry in 2007. Kept it running okay for about 10 years. Things seemed to go downhill quickly when there was a judgement for them to pay back what they took. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/business/energy-environment/conocophillips-venezuela-oil.html |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:09:33 PM EDT
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It's probably been posted here but I just found this today, a very good read
https://politicalmoonshine.com/2020/05/06/making-the-case-for-treason/ |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joshdb50: What if Snowden was a good guy and they used him as a smokescreen for their selling of shit from the home server? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By joshdb50: Originally Posted By Cecenrse: Snowden COULD have been considered a hero and patriot if all he absconded with and revealed was the overwhelming and over reaching government spying activities employed illegally against American citizens here in the US. However, what makes him a traitor is the massive troves of military classified documents, during war time, which he sold to and shared with both the Chinese and the Russians. Rightfully, you'll never hear much about specifics, unless you have a need to know and SC/TSC and above. It's highly likely that while HRC's home server dead drop sold SAP's and other intel to the Chinese, that Snowden's stolen and sold intel got assets in China (and other places) killed or burned, at the least. What if Snowden was a good guy and they used him as a smokescreen for their selling of shit from the home server? Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12 Dec 2018 - 5:49:48 PM Anonymous 12 Dec 2018 - 5:47:52 PM >>4280189 What about Snowden? >>4280453 Negotiating for return. Traitor. Mission to harm NSA. Q |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:33:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: 70 Days from today puts it at 7-26-2020 (+7?) so still before election. If we're on week three, then +49 days is 7-5-2020 (+7?) The +7? is due to not knowing if we are at beginning or end of "#3" with Sunday being first and last day of week depending on nation. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By BM1455: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/196710/Capture4256_PNG-1420202.JPG 70 Days from today puts it at 7-26-2020 (+7?) so still before election. If we're on week three, then +49 days is 7-5-2020 (+7?) The +7? is due to not knowing if we are at beginning or end of "#3" with Sunday being first and last day of week depending on nation. Where is the 70 days coming from? Q has talked about 4th of July/"a day worth celebrating" before, right? Or am I just remembering that incorrectly. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:37:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: Where is the 70 days coming from? Q has talked about 4th of July/"a day worth celebrating" before, right? Or am I just remembering that incorrectly. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: Originally Posted By brass: Originally Posted By BM1455: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/196710/Capture4256_PNG-1420202.JPG 70 Days from today puts it at 7-26-2020 (+7?) so still before election. If we're on week three, then +49 days is 7-5-2020 (+7?) The +7? is due to not knowing if we are at beginning or end of "#3" with Sunday being first and last day of week depending on nation. Where is the 70 days coming from? Q has talked about 4th of July/"a day worth celebrating" before, right? Or am I just remembering that incorrectly. Just a SWAG at Weeks numbered to 10, could also be "analogy weeks" where some are a few hours and some are a few weeks (seems they've mostly been the latter  ) |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:43:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brass: Just a SWAG at Weeks numbered to 10, could also be "analogy weeks" where some are a few hours and some are a few weeks (seems they've mostly been the latter )Duh, on me. I read it to be different releases of info, indictments, and/or arrests. That was probably just wishful thinking on my part, LOL. |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:43:31 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/196710/Capture4256_PNG-1420202.JPG So.....July 4th weekend? Something big? |
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Posted: 5/17/2020 8:48:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: 4th of July weekend the count ends. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tranzformer: Originally Posted By BM1455: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/196710/Capture4256_PNG-1420202.JPG 4th of July weekend the count ends. I'm anticipating an epic 4'th 
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