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Link Posted: 5/17/2020 8:56:33 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/17/2020 8:58:23 PM EDT
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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S
Link Posted: 5/17/2020 9:16:04 PM EDT
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Snowden COULD have been considered a hero and patriot if all he absconded with and revealed was the overwhelming and over reaching government spying activities employed illegally against American citizens here in the US.

However, what makes him a traitor is the massive troves of military classified documents, during war time, which he sold to and shared with both the Chinese and the Russians. Rightfully, you'll never hear much about specifics, unless you have a need to know and SC/TSC and above. It's highly likely that while HRC's home server dead drop sold SAP's and other intel to the Chinese, that Snowden's stolen and sold intel got assets in China (and other places) killed or burned, at the least.
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Then I have to ask......how do you know?
Link Posted: 5/17/2020 9:28:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


It's refined gasoline and Venezuela's refinery's are no longer repairable and functional (from what I've read).
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:
Originally Posted By MCSquared:

Venezuela is a net petroleum exporter, so why is Iran sending petrol products there?


It's refined gasoline and Venezuela's refinery's are no longer repairable and functional (from what I've read).


Thank you.  

I'm working too many hours to keep up lately.
Link Posted: 5/17/2020 10:04:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MeInMediocrity:

Yep.  Stole the oil industry in 2007.  Kept it running okay for about 10 years.  Things seemed to go downhill quickly when there was a judgement for them to pay back what they took.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/20/business/energy-environment/conocophillips-venezuela-oil.html
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Plants don’t last that long when you can’t shut them down periodically for full maintenance run ups. DuckDuck Turnarounds if you’re not familiar with PetroChem. Very expensive and very mandatory, half a decade if you’re lucky.
Link Posted: 5/17/2020 10:36:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By TxLewis:
It's probably been posted here but I just found this today, a very good read

https://politicalmoonshine.com/2020/05/06/making-the-case-for-treason/

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Thank you for posting that.
Link Posted: 5/17/2020 11:28:30 PM EDT
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OT but I found this interesting. Tesla monitors their charging stations world wide all the time.

Check out his chart.
Link Posted: 5/17/2020 11:56:40 PM EDT
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Survey says? Sources say! Peddling rumor as if it is fact once again. They sound like Global Times.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 12:01:20 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By fudimo1:
OT but I found this interesting. Tesla monitors their charging stations world wide all the time. 

Check out his chart.
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Link Posted: 5/18/2020 12:02:47 AM EDT
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Has anyone considered the person using Joe Biden's unmasking authority on Flynn was Eric Ciarmella?  I mean, he was on Biden's staff, is a CIA spook, and was part of the overall deep state group.

There is still so much more to learn...
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 12:13:26 AM EDT
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Thank you for posting that.
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It's probably been posted here but I just found this today, a very good read

https://politicalmoonshine.com/2020/05/06/making-the-case-for-treason/



Thank you for posting that.


You should also read this:

The question is really how real the signs are that China has been preparing for this moment.  We can parse away Chinese culpability, if we want to, in the features of the coronavirus story – at least for the moment.  We can turn a deaf ear to possibilities that require more evidence, and assume them onto the ash heap of analysis.

But take a look at this discussion posted by Chinese dissident (and self-exiled billionaire) Guo Wengui about the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Biosafety Level-4 Lab.  The provenance appears to be from a source directly familiar with the organization of the lab (i.e., @DTinLAC). Notice how almost everyone connected to the BSL-4 lab (called the “P4” lab in Chinese descriptions) is someone we’ve met here already: senior members of the CCP, the multifarious Mérieux empire, the players involved in the take-private buyout of WuXi Pharmatech and its AppTec subsidiary in 2015.

I’m not sure what role China played in propagating the COVID-19 coronavirus in the last four or five months.  But I have no doubt that taking WuXi private in 2015 was about preparing China, from some standpoint (offensive, defensive, or both), to wage biological warfare at a time of the CCP’s choosing in the non-distant future.


Link Posted: 5/18/2020 1:43:03 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


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The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked.

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 3:06:07 AM EDT
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Today in Bejing the communists in the HK legislative body forcefully physically removed the pro-democracy lawmakers and then took a vote and elected a pro-communist chair of a key committee that oversees bills while their men held the doors shut. I wonder if they will vote by mail this year as well. Video at the link.

https://www.local10.com/news/world/...akers-clash-as-pro-beijing-camp-elects-chair/

Hong Kong lawmakers clash as pro-Beijing camp elects chair

HONG KONG  Clashes broke out in Hong Kong's legislature Monday for a second time this month as a pro-Beijing lawmaker was elected as chair of a key committee that scrutinizes bills, ending a prolonged struggle for control with the pro-democracy camp.

The legislature's House Committee, which vets bills and decides when to present them for a final vote, had been without a chairperson for more than six months. The central government in Beijing criticized deputy chairperson and pro-democracy lawmaker Dennis Kwok for deliberately delaying matters and causing a backlog of bills that affect public interest.

Kwok was replaced Friday by Chan Kin-por, who was appointed by the legislature's president to preside over Monday's election. After scuffles and shouting matches, leading to Chan ejecting most of the pro-democracy lawmakers, the election took place with pro-Beijing lawmaker Starry Lee winning easily.

Her election will likely speed up the passing of a controversial bill that would criminalize abuse of the Chinese national anthem. Hong Kong's chief executive Carrie Lam said last week that passing the bill was a priority for the government, and the bill will be presented to the committee on May 27.

At Monday's meeting, pro-democracy lawmakers held up placards that read "Abuse of Power" and "CCP tramples HK legislature," referring to the China's ruling Communist Party. Within minutes, at least five lawmakers were ejected for disorderly behavior, with at least one lying injured on the ground as the meeting was briefly suspended.

"Hong Kong is marching towards the beginning of the end of 'one country, two systems'," said pro-democracy lawmaker Claudia Mo after the meeting ended.

The former British colony was returned to China in 1997 under a one country, two systems framework that gives Hong Kong its own legal system and greater rights than in the mainland.

Mo urged the Hong Kong people to vote out those who "don't care about Hong Kong's future" in the legislative elections in September.

Pro-democracy lawmaker Tanya Chan accused security guards of Hong Kong's legislature of "losing their impartiality," after the security guards surrounded the bench where the chairperson was seated and prevented pro-democracy lawmakers from getting close.

Pro-Beijing lawmaker Martin Liao said the opposition camp had "assaulted some of the security officers," and disrupted "legitimate" election proceedings.

Lawmakers clashed over the same issue on May 8, when Lee occupied the chairperson's seat more than an hour before the meeting was scheduled to start, saying that external legal counsel had advised that she had the power to preside over House Committee meetings.

Pro-democracy lawmakers accused her of abusing her power and staged a walkout, leaving Lee and the pro-Beijing camp to clear several bills.

Also Monday, 15 pro-democracy figures, including media tycoon Jimmy Lai, appeared in court to face charges relating to anti-government protests last year over a controversial extradition bill that has since been withdrawn. The bill would have allowed residents of the semi-autonomous Chinese territory to be sent to mainland to stand trial and sparked months of protests.

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Associated Press journalist Alice Fung contributed to this report.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 6:46:08 AM EDT
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Don't know the answer to Snowden but one needs to consider, they are good at accusing others of exactly what they are doing.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 6:50:42 AM EDT
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When "they" describe someone or something as "off the rails", then you KNOW it is right on target.
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Originally Posted By BM1455:



When "they" describe someone or something as "off the rails", then you KNOW it is right on target.


Agree.

“If you’re taking flack, you’re over the target.”
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 7:17:40 AM EDT
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Whatever this means..

Link Posted: 5/18/2020 7:30:17 AM EDT
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Meh.  Sort of want.

Link Posted: 5/18/2020 7:36:47 AM EDT
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That second LEO that made a Constitution First video has been suspended without pay.

https://youtu.be/w5hHKR9yXVk

How can a local gov agency suspend an employee without pay? In civil service, that’s a violation of their Employee rights.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 7:40:55 AM EDT
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Fox Is reporting Elan Musk tweets “ Take the red pill “.

Followed by “Take it” from Ivanka.

Oh boy.



Link Posted: 5/18/2020 8:31:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 8:34:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Plattekill:
That second LEO that made a Constitution First video has been suspended without pay.

https://youtu.be/w5hHKR9yXVk

How can a local gov agency suspend an employee without pay? In civil service, that’s a violation of their Employee rights.
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Meanwhile that Cocksucker coward that hid while kids were slaughtered gets his job back with back pay.....we really need to change the name oif our country to “Clownworld”
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 8:38:47 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By chadjetlag:


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long.
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I think it means a war to distract from problems on the Iranian home front. Probably with Xi’s encouragement so PLA can reconnoiter the response by Israel and the west.
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 8:49:34 AM EDT
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Fox Is reporting Elan Musk tweets “ Take the red pill “. 

Followed by “Take it” from Ivanka.

Oh boy.



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I retweeted that yesterday
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Originally Posted By tranzformer:


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long. 
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Originally Posted By chadjetlag:
Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long. 


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Originally Posted By tranzformer:


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long. 
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Originally Posted By chadjetlag:
Originally Posted By SheltiePimp:
Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long. 


IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.
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Originally Posted By chadjetlag:


IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long. 


IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.
You’re down by four runs in the eighth. Why do you keep telling your guy in the hole he sucks?
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IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.
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I have no doubt some are defiant. However, looking at what has happened with the same approach that used to exist - where the people who investigated and enforced the laws were part of the problem is accepting nothing has been done to fix it.

That is what happened during the last 3.5 years. Ignoring it to state "nothing will happen" is asking us to deny dozens of things we know for a fact have happened to fix it. The leadership if the FBI was cleaned out, same for the DOJ, thousands of CEO's resigned on the premise their companies could be nationalized if it were discovered they - the CEO - had anything to do with human trafficking. The Board Room cleaned them out. Congress saw a historic number leave, too. Investigations took longer than normal because Obama appointees were balking at every step and it took three times longer to force compliance. Our Congress slow walked appointments - we still have dozens of acting heads in major positions - but we do have over 250 new Federal District court Trump appointed Judges. If you plan to indict and prosecute, you need a based judge in the seat - not like Sullivan who is screwing Flynn over with extralegal proceedings highlighting how bad could be.

And investigations take time - making the case, presenting it to a grand jury, getting an indictment. There is a historic number of sealed indictments in the District courts - over 159,000. That is double what Obama did in 8 years - done in three.

LEO's and prosecuting attorney's haven't be slow walking antything - they have been busting their balls delivering. It's the deliberate denier who claims otherwise. Do not forget, this administration isn't deliberately leaking stories to the press, either - no Piss Dossier getting shopped out by Senators who beg for it to be published.

Said Senator "died" of brain cancer. Others flat out state he was executed. Something sure wasn't slow walked there. Justice prevailed regardless, in a timely manner. His Open Borders are now quickly becoming Our Wall. Illegals crossing the border are now almost immediately returned the same day, no matter what. The laws were changed and rearranged, you want asylum, apply - from some other country - and justify why it can't be the sanctuary. After all, you had to cross that border to get to this one.

That wasn't slow walked.

And now we have Vote by Mail, which is already demonstrating which Democratic strongholds will abuse it with thousands of ballots repeatedly showing up at old addresses and many for the dead. Which we know could happen all along. This virus is an attempt to make it nationwide and throw the election. It will fail, same as many other items, like, paying cash to felons when it's specifically called out as illegal. Vote all the 3 trillion dollar bills you like, what Trump worked was the midterms to ensure the Senate was a bulwark against Democratic schemes. He was busting his ass with rallies and got the job done.

And, Trumps doing it again, quietly, visiting factories and plants now, with a widely advertised route to see who might gather along the way. Call it what you like, he's still working the job and campaigning. What's old Joe doing? His rallies could be held in conformance with social distancing in a Dairy Queen.

So, just because you or I aren't seeing hangings every night on the six o'clock news doesn't mean nothing is happening. The big nothing that happens is some people choose to ignore what is right under their nose.

This aint Burger King, you don't get it your way, you get it Trumps way. And it's working a hell of a lot better than whining "we aren't being as evil as they are and ignoring the Constitution to get even!" The goal is to show the system DOES work. And those who oppose it will discover very soon, it is.
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IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long. 


IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.


I think his actions as current AG show otherwise.  

We wouldn't have seen declas if he was DS
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Originally Posted By Cecenrse:


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long. 


IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.
You’re down by four runs in the eighth. Why do you keep telling your guy in the hole he sucks? 


Somebody has to pump the brakes occasionally On this freight train
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I have no doubt some are defiant. However, looking at what has happened with the same approach that used to exist - where the people who investigated and enforced the laws were part of the problem is accepting nothing has been done to fix it. 

That is what happened during the last 3.5 years. Ignoring it to state "nothing will happen" is asking us to deny dozens of things we know for a fact have happened to fix it. The leadership if the FBI was cleaned out, same for the DOJ, thousands of CEO's resigned on the premise their companies could be nationalized if it were discovered they - the CEO - had anything to do with human trafficking. The Board Room cleaned them out. Congress saw a historic number leave, too. Investigations took longer than normal because Obama appointees were balking at every step and it took three times longer to force compliance. Our Congress slow walked appointments - we still have dozens of acting heads in major positions - but we do have over 250 new Federal District court Trump appointed Judges. If you plan to indict and prosecute, you need a based judge in the seat - not like Sullivan who is screwing Flynn over with extralegal proceedings highlighting how bad could be. 

And investigations take time - making the case, presenting it to a grand jury, getting an indictment. There is a historic number of sealed indictments in the District courts - over 159,000. That is double what Obama did in 8 years - done in three. 

LEO's and prosecuting attorney's haven't be slow walking antything - they have been busting their balls delivering. It's the deliberate denier who claims otherwise. Do not forget, this administration isn't deliberately leaking stories to the press, either - no Piss Dossier getting shopped out by Senators who beg for it to be published. 

Said Senator "died" of brain cancer. Others flat out state he was executed. Something sure wasn't slow walked there. Justice prevailed regardless, in a timely manner. His Open Borders are now quickly becoming Our Wall. Illegals crossing the border are now almost immediately returned the same day, no matter what. The laws were changed and rearranged, you want asylum, apply - from some other country - and justify why it can't be the sanctuary. After all, you had to cross that border to get to this one. 

That wasn't slow walked. 

And now we have Vote by Mail, which is already demonstrating which Democratic strongholds will abuse it with thousands of ballots repeatedly showing up at old addresses and many for the dead. Which we know could happen all along. This virus is an attempt to make it nationwide and throw the election. It will fail, same as many other items, like, paying cash to felons when it's specifically called out as illegal. Vote all the 3 trillion dollar bills you like, what Trump worked was the midterms to ensure the Senate was a bulwark against Democratic schemes. He was busting his ass with rallies and got the job done. 

And, Trumps doing it again, quietly, visiting factories and plants now, with a widely advertised route to see who might gather along the way. Call it what you like, he's still working the job and campaigning. What's old Joe doing? His rallies could be held in conformance with social distancing in a Dairy Queen. 

So, just because you or I aren't seeing hangings every night on the six o'clock news doesn't mean nothing is happening. The big nothing that happens is some people choose to ignore what is right under their nose. 

This aint Burger King, you don't get it your way, you get it Trumps way. And it's working a hell of a lot better than whining "we aren't being as evil as they are and ignoring the Constitution to get even!" The goal is to show the system DOES work. And those who oppose it will discover very soon, it is.
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IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.



I have no doubt some are defiant. However, looking at what has happened with the same approach that used to exist - where the people who investigated and enforced the laws were part of the problem is accepting nothing has been done to fix it. 

That is what happened during the last 3.5 years. Ignoring it to state "nothing will happen" is asking us to deny dozens of things we know for a fact have happened to fix it. The leadership if the FBI was cleaned out, same for the DOJ, thousands of CEO's resigned on the premise their companies could be nationalized if it were discovered they - the CEO - had anything to do with human trafficking. The Board Room cleaned them out. Congress saw a historic number leave, too. Investigations took longer than normal because Obama appointees were balking at every step and it took three times longer to force compliance. Our Congress slow walked appointments - we still have dozens of acting heads in major positions - but we do have over 250 new Federal District court Trump appointed Judges. If you plan to indict and prosecute, you need a based judge in the seat - not like Sullivan who is screwing Flynn over with extralegal proceedings highlighting how bad could be. 

And investigations take time - making the case, presenting it to a grand jury, getting an indictment. There is a historic number of sealed indictments in the District courts - over 159,000. That is double what Obama did in 8 years - done in three. 

LEO's and prosecuting attorney's haven't be slow walking antything - they have been busting their balls delivering. It's the deliberate denier who claims otherwise. Do not forget, this administration isn't deliberately leaking stories to the press, either - no Piss Dossier getting shopped out by Senators who beg for it to be published. 

Said Senator "died" of brain cancer. Others flat out state he was executed. Something sure wasn't slow walked there. Justice prevailed regardless, in a timely manner. His Open Borders are now quickly becoming Our Wall. Illegals crossing the border are now almost immediately returned the same day, no matter what. The laws were changed and rearranged, you want asylum, apply - from some other country - and justify why it can't be the sanctuary. After all, you had to cross that border to get to this one. 

That wasn't slow walked. 

And now we have Vote by Mail, which is already demonstrating which Democratic strongholds will abuse it with thousands of ballots repeatedly showing up at old addresses and many for the dead. Which we know could happen all along. This virus is an attempt to make it nationwide and throw the election. It will fail, same as many other items, like, paying cash to felons when it's specifically called out as illegal. Vote all the 3 trillion dollar bills you like, what Trump worked was the midterms to ensure the Senate was a bulwark against Democratic schemes. He was busting his ass with rallies and got the job done. 

And, Trumps doing it again, quietly, visiting factories and plants now, with a widely advertised route to see who might gather along the way. Call it what you like, he's still working the job and campaigning. What's old Joe doing? His rallies could be held in conformance with social distancing in a Dairy Queen. 

So, just because you or I aren't seeing hangings every night on the six o'clock news doesn't mean nothing is happening. The big nothing that happens is some people choose to ignore what is right under their nose. 

This aint Burger King, you don't get it your way, you get it Trumps way. And it's working a hell of a lot better than whining "we aren't being as evil as they are and ignoring the Constitution to get even!" The goal is to show the system DOES work. And those who oppose it will discover very soon, it is.


Joe won’t be the dem nominee.  Mail in voting will end Trumps campaign but for some reason he keeps going along with the virus scam.  It would be awesome if he had evidence the dems/deepstate conspired with China to release the virus.....and dropped that bomb in October but that is living in dreamworld.
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IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.
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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2020/05/16/national/japan-investigation-who-coronavirus-response-china/#.XsHdSmdYZ8S


The Japanese government is now all in on anti-china. I have lived here since 2000 and until Trump came along there was suspicion but because of the money generated by Chinese tourism and real estate investment, the government didn't want to press the issue. Spying was basically accepted as the price of doing business with China.

All that has changed, and unfortunately, it's going to be a very painful but necessary adjustment. We officially are in a recession as of today, and if the Olympics next year are canceled all the companies that rely on tourism are basically fucked. 

Lots of Japanese companies are pulling manufacturing out of China, and there is a real stigma against Chinese products now. Japan is finally woke.


Maybe Japan’s investigations can get our corrupt politicians caught in their net for taking China $$$$$ as it seems our DOJ is slow walking and playing games on doing...well anything.


DNI/DOJ/FBI aren't slow walking anything. You realize how investigations of this magnitude work? You realize that Trump's team doesn't leak things like Obama/deep state does? You realize DNI/DOJ/FBI have been declas and dropping lots of documents? You realize more documents are coming? Durham and Huber are both working. Stop pushing the timeline to what you believe it should be. You can't change it either way. Neither can the media with all their complaining. Be patient. In the scope of things, 3.5 years isn't even long. 


IMO Barr is deep state swampy swamp (Ruby Ridge comes to mind...you should familiarize yourself with Barr’s actions there and accept the fact that he protects really, really bad FBI agents)  and he isn’t going to let ANY  of  fellow travelers ever see the inside of a cell...much less a noose.   I am just hoping another country will investigate the corruption and Punish our criminals as there is at least a better chance of them being brought to justice.  In pretty much every other government known to man the gallows would have been running 24/7 for a month or two to get rid of all the traitors....We just bluster And tweet about panic and justice...that never really comes.  If they were arrested today it would be long  after Trumps second term before there would be trials.  I admire your optimism but reality is what it is....there is no panic in DC, they are defiant.


Barr might have been deep state/establishment in the past. But he isn't deep state any longer imo based on what stuff has been declassified so far. If he was deep state/establishment, that would never have taken place. Change my mind.

There is a lot of panic in DC. Just turn on your fake news and watch the Twitter of those in DC. They are very much afraid.
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“The communication was discovered after investigators broke through the encryption on a phone belonging to gunman Mohammed Alshamrani, the sources said Monday.

Attorney General Bill Barr and FBI Director Christopher Wray are expected to address the matter at a press conference at 11 a.m. EDT.“https://www.foxnews.com/us/nas-pensacola-shooting-update

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Joe won’t be the dem nominee.  Mail in voting will end Trumps campaign but for some reason he keeps going along with the virus scam.  It would be awesome if he had evidence the dems/deepstate conspired with China to release the virus.....and dropped that bomb in October but that is living in dreamworld.
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So if you think he is going on with the virus scam, ask yourself why? Why is he doing that? Instead of questioning Trump's every move, maybe your time would be better spent (and you would get less heart burn and reflux) understanding what is going on. Instead of keep thinking that the most powerful man in the world is in trouble and incapable of doing his job. Relax. Everything is under control. Does Trump look scared to you? Does he look worried? Then why are you scared and worried about what is going on? Let the man do the job we elected him to do.
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But why?

Why is it a waste of time to hold someone to their work/responsibilities?

He knows what went on. We want answers. It’s seriously time we started getting some answers.
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You'll get nothing! Good day sir!
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Levin made a fantastic case for 0barna knowing everything.

Combine that with Bongino’s Friday show that makes the case 0barna ordered the Flynn investigation with the blessing of AG Lynch (and never did an unmask or a FISA request...because a POTUS with AG can approve such investigations without FISA per the law), and it is clear 0barna is in checkmate.
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“The communication was discovered after investigators broke through the encryption on a phone belonging to gunman Mohammed Alshamrani, the sources said Monday.

Attorney General Bill Barr and FBI Director Christopher Wray are expected to address the matter at a press conference at 11 a.m. EDT.“https://www.foxnews.com/us/nas-pensacola-shooting-update

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Sadly this will result in another push to end encryption or to give the gov a back door
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Joe won't be the dem nominee.  Mail in voting will end Trumps campaign but for some reason he keeps going along with the virus scam.  It would be awesome if he had evidence the dems/deepstate conspired with China to release the virus.....and dropped that bomb in October but that is living in dreamworld.
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This is not an unfair assessment of the response to the virus. I tend to pace my views on what I can observe today.

Early on in this thread I know I became wrapped up in the whirlwind of emotions at the thought of this great plan being hatched and all the traitors were going to be rounded up.

Sadly this hasn't occurred on my time schedule so I'm here for the current news events that you won't find on the nightly news. If I see something that sounds totally unrealistic I may comment on it but I've tried my best to keep my negative opinions to myself and try not bother the people who are doing all the digging and putting up information.

I have honestly felt the same as I think you feel regarding the nothing is going to happen for quite some time. But I definitely feel like we are making significant progress with all of the newly declassified information in the last few weeks. In my opinion seeing all this information declassed has definitely created an official starting point in the Q timeline whereas before I'm not sure we ever had a timeline established. Trump has done everything he said he was going to do with perhaps the exception of making Mexico pay for the wall. If he says there's more information coming against the treasonous traitors in our government, then I believe him.

Regarding the mail in voting. It'll definitely end trumps campaign if it were done at a national level and forced upon all the states, but I don't believe Trump would sign that legislation and currently if I'm not mistaken voting is established at the state level.

So if California goes mail in voting I don't know that it will really change the outcome of the electoral college in the race for the presidency.

if Pennsylvania, Florida, Texas, and some of the other key battleground states go for mail in voting then I would agree with your assessment and we are fucked and Trump will not get reelected.

Regarding the virus scam and trumps seeming willingness to go along with what the scammers intentions are, I feel like Trump is doing as good of a job as he can in spite of the hand he's been dealt, but it does seem like he is towing the line. All I can do is assess what has actually happened up until this exact moment in time, and I do see Trump going fullbore for the creation of a vaccine.

Trump started out really good and somewhat defiant of what the globalist were telling us we had to do and somehow it's like a light switch got flipped and now we're doing exactly what they are telling us to do. I am pleased last week that we started getting some good pushback against the CDC from Birx, and others in the administration.

And lastly if this vaccine is the ultimate agenda and Trump is pushing us towards that, I'm going to have a hard time squaring up the fact that I don't want to take the vaccine in spite of the fact that I trust trump and want to do what's best for the county.

On a personal level, I have always been opposed to the blockbuster drug industry and I'm not going to start now. I refuse to take the brand new, most expensive medication that is pushed on doctors by the pharmaceutical sales reps. Main reason is that I just can't stomach how much those companies piss away in marketing expenses which surely drive the costs up.

I don't know what I would do if they force the vaccine on us individually. I guess I'll have to take it but until then I am not going to take it.

Anyway, those are my thoughts, I tend to agree with you but I think this beginning of the declass is a big deal and I'm surprised you don't see it that way.

Thanks
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Speaking of the virus...here's a nursing home death % rate by state (though it's not all states)



Pompeo's dig on China  

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This is not an unfair assessment of the response to the virus. I tend to pace my views on what I can observe today. 

Early on in this thread I know I became wrapped up in the whirlwind of emotions at the thought of this great plan being hatched and all the traders were going to be rounded up. 

Sadly this hasn't occurred on my time schedule so I'm here for the current news events that you won't find on the nightly news. If I see something that sounds totally unrealistic I may comment on it but I've tried my best to keep my negative opinions to myself and try not bother the people who are doing all the digging and putting up information. 

I have honestly felt the same as I think you feel regarding the nothing is going to happen for quite some time. But I definitely feel like we are making significant progress with all of the newly declassified information in the last few weeks. In my opinion seeing all this information declassed has definitely created an official starting point in the Q timeline whereas before I'm not sure we ever had a timeline established. Trump has done everything he said he was going to do with perhaps the exception of making Mexico pay for the wall. If he says there's more information coming against the treasonous traitors in our government, then I believe him.

Regarding the mail in voting. It'll definitely end trumps campaign if it were done at a national level and forced upon all the states, but I don't believe Trump would sign that legislation and currently if I'm not mistaken voting is established at the state level. 

So if California goes mail in voting I don't know that it will really change the outcome of the electoral college in the race for the presidency. 

if Pennsylvania, Florida, Texas, and some of the other key battleground states go for mail in voting then I would agree with your assessment and we are fucked and Trump will not get reelected. 

Regarding the virus scam and trumps seeming willingness to go along with what the scammers intentions are, I feel like Trump is doing as good of a job as he can in spite of the hand he's been dealt, but it does seem like he is towing the line. All I can do is assess what has actually happened up until this exact moment in time, and I do see Trump going fullbore for the creation of a vaccine. 

Trump started out really good and somewhat defiant of what the globalist were telling us we had to do and somehow it's like a light switch got flipped and now we're doing exactly what they are telling us to do. I am pleased last week that we started getting some good pushback against the CDC from Birx, and others in the administration. 

And lastly if this vaccine is the ultimate agenda and Trump is pushing us towards that, I'm going to have a hard time squaring up the fact that I don't want to take the vaccine in spite of the fact that I trust trump and want to do what's best for the county. 

On a personal level, I have always been opposed to the blockbuster drug industry and I'm not going to start now. I refuse to take the brand new, most expensive medication that is pushed on doctors by the pharmaceutical sales reps. Main reason is that I just can't stomach how much those companies piss away in marketing expenses which surely drive the costs up. 

I don't know what I would do if they force the vaccine on us individually. I guess I'll have to take it but until then I am not going to take it. 

Anyway, those are my thoughts, I tend to agree with you but I think this beginning of the declass is a big deal and I'm surprised you don't see it that way. 

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Joe won't be the dem nominee.  Mail in voting will end Trumps campaign but for some reason he keeps going along with the virus scam.  It would be awesome if he had evidence the dems/deepstate conspired with China to release the virus.....and dropped that bomb in October but that is living in dreamworld.
This is not an unfair assessment of the response to the virus. I tend to pace my views on what I can observe today. 

Early on in this thread I know I became wrapped up in the whirlwind of emotions at the thought of this great plan being hatched and all the traders were going to be rounded up. 

Sadly this hasn't occurred on my time schedule so I'm here for the current news events that you won't find on the nightly news. If I see something that sounds totally unrealistic I may comment on it but I've tried my best to keep my negative opinions to myself and try not bother the people who are doing all the digging and putting up information. 

I have honestly felt the same as I think you feel regarding the nothing is going to happen for quite some time. But I definitely feel like we are making significant progress with all of the newly declassified information in the last few weeks. In my opinion seeing all this information declassed has definitely created an official starting point in the Q timeline whereas before I'm not sure we ever had a timeline established. Trump has done everything he said he was going to do with perhaps the exception of making Mexico pay for the wall. If he says there's more information coming against the treasonous traitors in our government, then I believe him.

Regarding the mail in voting. It'll definitely end trumps campaign if it were done at a national level and forced upon all the states, but I don't believe Trump would sign that legislation and currently if I'm not mistaken voting is established at the state level. 

So if California goes mail in voting I don't know that it will really change the outcome of the electoral college in the race for the presidency. 

if Pennsylvania, Florida, Texas, and some of the other key battleground states go for mail in voting then I would agree with your assessment and we are fucked and Trump will not get reelected. 

Regarding the virus scam and trumps seeming willingness to go along with what the scammers intentions are, I feel like Trump is doing as good of a job as he can in spite of the hand he's been dealt, but it does seem like he is towing the line. All I can do is assess what has actually happened up until this exact moment in time, and I do see Trump going fullbore for the creation of a vaccine. 

Trump started out really good and somewhat defiant of what the globalist were telling us we had to do and somehow it's like a light switch got flipped and now we're doing exactly what they are telling us to do. I am pleased last week that we started getting some good pushback against the CDC from Birx, and others in the administration. 

And lastly if this vaccine is the ultimate agenda and Trump is pushing us towards that, I'm going to have a hard time squaring up the fact that I don't want to take the vaccine in spite of the fact that I trust trump and want to do what's best for the county. 

On a personal level, I have always been opposed to the blockbuster drug industry and I'm not going to start now. I refuse to take the brand new, most expensive medication that is pushed on doctors by the pharmaceutical sales reps. Main reason is that I just can't stomach how much those companies piss away in marketing expenses which surely drive the costs up. 

I don't know what I would do if they force the vaccine on us individually. I guess I'll have to take it but until then I am not going to take it. 

Anyway, those are my thoughts, I tend to agree with you but I think this beginning of the declass is a big deal and I'm surprised you don't see it that way. 

Thanks


I am beginning go question what color hat Trump wears....if he was “compromised” by a deep state threat of “we will unleash a real killer virus if you don’t do XXX”  all this talk of a vaccine for a virus with a 99.97%+ survival rate...and Pushed by Bill Gates with his depopulate the planet talks?  No f-ing thanks, you aren’t putting that in me.
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GD discussion about this said it was because the Saudi Arabian airman had bad grades and was upset so he shot everyone, because they weren't going to pass him.

Turns out he has ties to al Qaeda.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fbi-finds-link-between-pensacola-gunman-al-qaida-2020-05-18?mod=home-page

The FBI has found a link between the gunman in a deadly attack at a military base last December and an al-Qaida operative, a U.S. official said Monday.

Attorney General William Barr and FBI Director Chris Wray were set to hold a news conference to announce developments in the shooting late last year at the Pensacola Naval Air Station, in which a Saudi Air Force officer killed three U.S. sailors and injured eight other people.

The FBI declined to comment ahead of the news conference.

The contacts between the shooter, Mohammed Alshamrani, and the al-Qaida operative were discovered on the shooter’s phone, according to the official, who was not authorized to discuss the case by name and spoke on the condition of anonymity


Link Posted: 5/18/2020 10:59:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By shinoi:
GD discussion about this said it was because the Saudi Arabian airman had bad grades and was upset so he shot everyone, because they weren't going to pass him.

Turns out he has ties to al Qaeda.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fbi-finds-link-between-pensacola-gunman-al-qaida-2020-05-18?mod=home-page

The FBI has found a link between the gunman in a deadly attack at a military base last December and an al-Qaida operative, a U.S. official said Monday.

Attorney General William Barr and FBI Director Chris Wray were set to hold a news conference to announce developments in the shooting late last year at the Pensacola Naval Air Station, in which a Saudi Air Force officer killed three U.S. sailors and injured eight other people.

The FBI declined to comment ahead of the news conference.

The contacts between the shooter, Mohammed Alshamrani, and the al-Qaida operative were discovered on the shooter’s phone, according to the official, who was not authorized to discuss the case by name and spoke on the condition of anonymity


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Isn't this confirmation of what most of us already suspected/knew, based on his having a get together w/ several of his cohorts and showing al-qaeda/ISIS jihad videos half the night?
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 11:09:56 AM EDT
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https://theohiostar.com/2020/05/18/exclusive-the-treasury-department-spied-on-flynn-manafort-and-the-trump-family-says-whistleblower/

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This helps put the investigation and seeming delay in context. Asked what was coming out next, Higgins replyed:


Link Posted: 5/18/2020 11:11:55 AM EDT
[#49]
Pensacola shooter in contact with al Qaeda years before coming to US.

Broke into phone

Years of planning for attack
Link Posted: 5/18/2020 11:16:37 AM EDT
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May 15: https://www.tsmc.com/english/newsEvents/index.htm
TSMC Announces Intention to Build and Operate an Advanced Semiconductor Fab in the United States

May 18: https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Huawei-crackdown/TSMC-halts-new-Huawei-orders-after-US-tightens-restrictions
Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the world's biggest contract chipmaker, has halted new orders from Huawei Technologies in response to tighter U.S. export controls aimed at further limiting the Chinese company's access to crucial chip supplies, multiple sources told the Nikkei Asian Review.

"TSMC has stopped taking new orders from Huawei after the new rule change was announced to fully comply with the latest export control regulation," a person familiar with the situation said. "But those already in production and those orders which TSMC took before the new ban are not impacted and could continue to proceed if those chips could be shipped before mid-September."

The U.S. Commerce Department announced on Friday that all non-U.S. chip manufacturers using American chipmaking equipment, intellectual property or design software will have to apply for a license before shipping chips to Huawei.
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