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Link Posted: 2/26/2019 7:27:40 PM EST
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Lots of energy sources that could be used. Build a solar powered plant in certain parts of the Southwest and the energy costs are trivial. Electrical distribution costs are more of a problem than generation.
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This application would be good for solar, because it side steps that pesky variability.  However, there's a good reason solar isn't competitive.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 7:32:06 PM EST
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More snake oil.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 7:33:48 PM EST
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Electrochemical reaction with a metal catalyst and some electricity.  No combustin technology we use is 100% efficient.. most of that energy is wasted.  This would be much more efficient.

This is like comparing snowflakes to jet engines.

Helps to read the article: "By using liquid metals as a catalyst, we've shown it's possible to turn the gas back into carbon at room temperature, in a process that's efficient and scalable.
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"Efficient" is a relative term for multi electron transfer processes.  There is always an overpotential, which means it always takes more energy than the reverse reaction.  I.e. It takes more energy than you could get burning it, even if that process was 100 percent efficient.  The authors are basically saying "this sucks less than other options..." but it's left unsaid that it still sucks.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 7:55:12 PM EST
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Trees and other life forms that contain chlorophyll have been doing that for billions of years.  They're quite good at it.

Plant something. Grow something.  It helps.  It really does.
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Why not use solar power to do this then?
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 7:57:00 PM EST
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Plant life thrives where there is an abundance of Co2. Just sayin'.
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Exactly why the global warming/climate change people are full of shit.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:00:35 PM EST
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This is actually really awesome.

Bring on the graphene economy.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:10:56 PM EST
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I can turn CO2 into construction material

https://dilbert.com/strip/2019-02-03
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:13:29 PM EST
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Trees and other life forms that contain chlorophyll have been doing that for billions of years.  They're quite good at it.

Plant something. Grow something.  It helps.  It really does.
Why not use solar power to do this then?
You mean like that yellow thing in the sky that makes plants grow and turn co2 into oxygen?
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:21:26 PM EST
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Plants have been turning CO2 into carbon using solar power for billions of years.  Couldn't we just raise a bunch of algae, dehydrate it in the sun, and then dump the solids down a mine-shaft and accomplish the same thing?

Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:23:09 PM EST
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How much energy does it take?
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My wild assed guess based on zero data would be slightly more (1.5-2 times) than what it takes for plants to synthesize sugar from CO2 and water.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:26:23 PM EST
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how much electricity does it take to do it?
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:04:35 PM EST
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How much energy does it take?
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See, you burn coal, then run the energy through the dilithium crystals, then through the warp core.  You feed pure C02 into the warp core (which is badly de-tuned).  The warp core sends the C02 back in time (oh, you need an extremely high gravity field, did I mention that?) using the "Spock Effect".  The C02 is turned into more coal (in the distant past), which you mine and burn for more energy.

Simple.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:06:41 PM EST
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Like fusion, it probably takes 100MW to make 1MW worth of coal.
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Fusion can actually break even these days.

Which is pretty amazing.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:07:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:16:07 PM EST
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Plant life thrives where there is an abundance of Co2. Just sayin'.
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A FACT seemingly LOST to a few recent generations.

How green the grass where yon cow farts?
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:24:33 PM EST
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This is one of my daydreams.

big generators the size of city blocks sucking co2 out of the air and turning it into carbon sand and dumping it into the sea to reclaim sea and make new land.  
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S187770581500154X

Investigation of the Strength of Carbon-sand Mixture

The greatest stress that a composite soil can sustain is a critical value when dealing with slope stability, bearing capacity and lateral earth pressure. Cohesion and internal friction of soil composite particles will create tension and retain any stresses which are applied to the composite material. The soil composite will remain secure unless the applied external stress reaches its shear capacity. This research examined composite materials consisting of sand and various percentages of carbon. The sand used in this experiment was yellow sand which is available in Western Australia. For the purpose of testing strength, three different percentages of carbon (5, 10 and 15) were added and mixed homogenously with the sand. The strength of the composite material was tested using a small direct shear machine, in order to determine the effect of the presence of carbon on the soil strength. The experiment results provided evidences that the presence of carbon influenced the shear performance of the sand, with the shear strength of the sand-carbon composite being significantly lower than that of pure sand. The more carbon that was added to the mixture, the lower the shear strength. Carbon also takes up initial moisture content in the sand during the mixing process. The results of this research are potentially very useful in the geotechnical field, particularly with regard to construction sites containing carbon.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:27:00 PM EST
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In other news, now that we have removed the evil CO2 from our atmosphere, plant life is dying.  Climate change is real man.  We need more CO2.  Better get the taxpayers to fund more CO2.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:31:54 PM EST
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Fake News.  Fake News Everywhere.  
Carbon flakes are not coal.  
More fucking fake news.  
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Let’s calm down a notch or two and see what they’re working at

https://newatlas.com/carbon-capture-co2-into-coal/58637/
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:36:43 PM EST
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^^^ The right answer.

There is no free lunch.
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There is no lunch at all if you don't read the actual research paper.  It uses very little energy.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:46:01 PM EST
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Give me a few million dollars in research funds and I'll build a prototype for a solar powered CO2 scrubber that only needs water and some "special" "organic" compounds.  
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Give me $4.9 Billion and I’ll start an electric car company.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:47:03 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:52:06 PM EST
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There is no lunch at all if you don't read the actual research paper.  It uses very little energy.
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Compared to what?
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 9:54:49 PM EST
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The miners will oppose this.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 10:07:04 PM EST
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this whole thing just screams for massive government grants so they can show it is a stupid idea
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 10:09:30 PM EST
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Why not use solar power to do this then?
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Link Posted: 2/28/2019 9:35:17 AM EST
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Cost is no object. Roll it into the Green New Deal and bump the cost up a few trillion.

For the chirren.
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Chirren.....for President
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