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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:41:13 PM EST
[#1]
They will break it, you will fix it when you need it and discover that it is broken
Repeat this cycle They will claim they maintained it and checked all fluids and maintenance points, torqued necessary hardware, inspected EVERYTHING all of it will be neglected, and you will do it religiously Your tires will be flat, bald, or punctured. New plugs and gashes may appear Shear pins will be replaced with bolts Anything that can be hidden will be hidden The battery will always be dead somehow Not only will you be pissed, you’ll be pissed at FAMILY and that family is now your NEIGHBOR Sell them your tractor and finance a new one. Keep your implements and make ‘em buy what they need |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:41:54 PM EST
[#2]
Since they need it so much, let them buy it. For the few times you'd use it, you borrow/rent it from them.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:54:44 PM EST
[#3]
Ask them who pays when they start breaking shit? Are you going to split the bills 50/50 for a tractor that they're putting all the wear and tear on? Let them pay you up front and agree to take full responsibility for upkeep, and if they aren't interested in that, then they should go buy their own tractor to ruin. Any way you make this deal, they're going to decide at some point that you're an asshole. May as well get it over with.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:56:20 PM EST
[#4]
No. ETA they can find a perfectly fine older tractor for the cost of half your tractor’s value.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:57:16 PM EST
[#5]
No. But you could offer to help them when you have free time.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:57:20 PM EST
[#6]
If he kills himself on your tractor, how does that work out? Because I had to remove all my kayaks from my beach rental house due to liability.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:01:01 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If he kills himself on your tractor, how does that work out? Because I had to remove all my kayaks from my beach rental house due to liability. That is a very valid point. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:01:38 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. You'll end up getting the short end of the stick. Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. You'll end up getting the short end of the stick. This. It is, after all, A family member |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:01:46 PM EST
[#9]
If you don’t, then you’re gonna the ass hole who wouldn’t help a family member out, if ya do then you’re gonna get fucked, so, you’re fucked either way.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:03:46 PM EST
[#10]
Heck no.
My tractor is worth maybe $10k and the wrong operator could break $20k worth of parts in a day. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:04:20 PM EST
[#11]
Pass. Loaning a expensive tractor no way. Much less to family. When it ends badly you are still family and have to deal with the BS. Hell no.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:05:57 PM EST
[#12]
No fucking way.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:07:11 PM EST
[#13]
NFW
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:07:44 PM EST
[#14]
They want a shared ownership because they figured out it would be far cheaper for them to go that way then buy and maintain their own.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:08:40 PM EST
[#15]
Rules to live by #87
Dont do business with friends or family. It NEVER ends well. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:11:49 PM EST
[#16]
My advice- Offer to loan your family the tractor when they need it. It will be MUCH cheaper than selling them half of it.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:12:03 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not only that but hell fuckin no |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:13:09 PM EST
[#18]
I’d didn’t read what you posted other than title
No If you’d like to loan your tractor out, with understanding that somebody’s gonna tear something up, and you’ve got to fix it, that’s fine. You’re a better dude than me . But you don’t “share a tractor” |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:15:49 PM EST
[#19]
No you should not do this. Don't lend it to them either.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:16:52 PM EST
[#20]
I always thought this sort of “ sharing” would be smart….economical.
The way it might work would be an agreement that funds maintenance and schedules it…based on a competent estimate. Just like when you own a shopping center you budget for maintenance of buildings and parking lots and taxes etc. I shared a mower with a neighbor for awhile and might again if I fire my new gardener. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:17:35 PM EST
[#21]
Sounds like they really can't afford the land they bought.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:18:46 PM EST
[#22]
I share a tractor with my brother, but he doesn't give a shit about the cost as long as things get done. That's always been the deal.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:20:20 PM EST
[#23]
If it were me, I’d be fine with it; but I wouldn’t go halves with someone like me. I’m rough as shit on equipment and expect it to break. Sometimes I timely fix things, sometimes I don’t. [shrug]
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:22:26 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it were me, I’d be fine with it; but I wouldn’t go halves with someone like me. I’m rough as shit on equipment and expect it to break. Sometimes I timely fix things, sometimes I don’t. [shrug] And this is why you don’t do this. No offense recoiljunky |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:26:38 PM EST
[#25]
Sounds like they have the money for a decent used tractor. Offer to let them borrow the attachments. At least that way when they break the first one, you aren't out a tractor.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:27:43 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell no Fpni |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:28:19 PM EST
[#27]
Just rent it to him for an hourly rate. Factor in the cost of maintenance and upkeep in the rental rate. Make him agree to be responsible for any damage he causes from accidents or stupidity. I wouldn't do it for anyone else other than a family member. It's kind of hard to refuse a family member when their ranch is right next door to yours.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:28:34 PM EST
[#28]
27 acres? They should just go by some 5k used piece of half decent shit.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:33:45 PM EST
[#29]
No they will use it and not do any of the maintaince. When it breaks its yours to fix.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:34:11 PM EST
[#30]
LOL NO
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:35:14 PM EST
[#31]
No.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:36:31 PM EST
[#32]
They are going to get a full tractor for half the price (you don't use it that much) and someone to pay half the cost of any repairs that come from their use.
NO THANKS. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:37:33 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither a borrower nor lender be. Or something like that. A good friend of mine, and I bought a boat together. This was like 25 years ago. The boat was about $1500 but that’s besides the point. Guess who did all the work to keep the boat running, yours truly. Guess who never turned a wrench on the boat or helped pay for parts. Guess who kept the boat. Me Never again. avatar co-signs. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:41:30 PM EST
[#34]
If you take really good care of the tractor and with a little luck, it might last you the rest of your life.
But with other folks putting a lot of wear and tear on it, it might not. Then what? Go in halves again? Maybe after they wear out your tractor they sell out and move to town. Then what? I’m sure it’s a touchy situation with them being family but those sorts of deals never really work out. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:41:55 PM EST
[#35]
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:42:50 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hell no |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:46:08 PM EST
[#37]
There's no poll, but it would be crushed with no votes.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:54:54 PM EST
[#38]
Tractors and implements are significant investments, and maintenance is also significant. Unless you know for a fact they have experience operating and maintaining farm equipment, you should consider a very stern conversation explaining costs of all aspects of owning/maintaining farm equipment.
I realize this may be a difficult conversation, but liken it to sharing a vehicle, air conditioner, boat, or lawnmower. Whatever makes sense to not share expenses for as separate families. A talking point may be in regards to how it would be insured and how that is nearly impossible. Just my 2 cents, and I own several tractors. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:04:06 PM EST
[#39]
If he breaks it, he'll expect you to drop everything to get it fixed because he needs it NOW.
Help him find a used tractor to buy. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:06:55 PM EST
[#40]
Definitely no.
With very few exceptions, the day a family member bought a house or property next door to me would be the day I put up my house for sale. I’ve witnessed it go poorly. In fact, they doubled down and it’s still going poorly. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:09:17 PM EST
[#41]
Quoted: A family member bought 27 acres next to me. They are building a home and have a lot of expenses when it comes to a property this large. One of which would be buying a tractor. I've been approached with the idea of them buying into my tractor, a Kubota L4060. I have all the attachments they would need and would gladly loan them when they need them if they had their own tractor. Their plan is giving me half of what the tractor is worth now, it's a 2016 with low hours. I'm concerned about any issues that might arise from breakdowns from either normal use or misuse not being handled in a timely fashion. Other than hay season and the occasional chore around the property it just sits in the barn. They however have a lot of land to clear and several projects they would need it for. It's not that I don't trust them, but things happen. Thoughts? No, tell them to buy their own tractor and you would share the attachments. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:09:22 PM EST
[#42]
When it has double the hours on it next year and a dent from a tree branch in the hood, you won't be happy. And you think they will worry about changing the oil on time?
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:09:29 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. You'll end up getting the short end of the stick. NEVER mix family and business if you can help it. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:11:33 PM EST
[#44]
NO!
I own a tractor and my dad who lives 2 miles away owns a tractor. We don't borrow, we don't loan! OP, do not do this. It will end poorly and result in many hurt feelz, I can 100% guarantee it. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:13:23 PM EST
[#45]
Fuck that noise, if they can’t afford a tractor they sure as hell won’t be ponying up when they break your shit.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:16:07 PM EST
[#46]
My father gave me 1 important lesson in life.
He said there are 3 things in life a man does not share. His car, his gun, and his wife. I would bet that the tractor is an extension of the car. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:16:21 PM EST
[#47]
Nope . Tell them to use the money they would pay you buy their own used tractor .
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:23:38 PM EST
[#48]
No offense, and you mentioned family, but there’s a type that thinks it’s ok to ask questions like that.
That’s not the type I can picture myself spending any time around. |
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:30:55 PM EST
[#49]
Fuck no. I'm careful with my tractor and shit still happens.
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Posted: 1/25/2023 10:32:37 PM EST
[#50]
Maybe. Make a gentleman’s agreement that whoever breaks it gets to fix it. Shared maintenance depending on who is using it the most that month. You’d certainly save a lot of money as a tractor will sit most of the time in my experience. Better that two families absorb the cost.
The downside is if one party doesn’t honor their agreement. If they break it and don’t have the money or willingness to fix it, then that’s a major problem. How much you trust this person to do the right thing is the biggest question and only you can answer that. Disagreements could pop up quickly if this isn’t a stand up guy. |
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