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Posted: 10/28/2021 12:07:38 PM EDT
With SA bringing back the hi-power, would there be a market for the Luger in a similar guise, or is it obsolete and irrelevant? I would guess it would be complex and expensive to manufacture, but the SA P35 costs less than I expected. What do you guys think?
I have never fired one, but always liked the looks. I don't even know anyone who owns one. |
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Yes.
Also, classic submachineguns. I want my semi Sig MKPO damnit. |
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Quoted: I would guess it would be complex and expensive to manufacture, View Quote That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. I do remember seeing a mock-up (or CGI?) of a "modern" Luger, which looked pretty badass. Someone will probably post it. |
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Absolutely.
As long as it’s aesthetically the same I don’t even care if parts a interchangeable or not. |
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Bring it back only if you don't care about losing money on every copy. It's irrelevant today to all but collectors and collectors will mostly want the real thing for the price you would have to charge for a new one..
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sure, they should come back so people can see how much they suck and why they're no longer made
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You should do it OP.
Just like the locals in my area that are always asking "why don't we have an organic eatery?" or "Why don't we have a (fill in the blank)?" Best answer is, if you feel there is a profitable market for it, seek out the investors and make it happen. Best of luck in your new endeavor. |
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As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols.
3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. |
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If you want one to shoot get a 70s interarms one or get a mixmaster shooter.
I have shot my 1938 Mauser and it shot well and was accurate. Lugerman in Pa has recreated the .45 luger but they are insanely expensive and unless he has one sitting on the shelf you will be waiting a loooong time for him to complete another batch. |
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Quoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. View Quote Do a P38/P1 clone then. |
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Lugers were thought to be too expensive to produce @$38. back in the 30's.
That's from my poor memory of a Forgotten Weapons episode. |
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Quoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. View Quote Modern CNC machines completely remove the need for expensive hand fitting. It’s not that a Luger can’t be made profitably, it’s that the machine could be making other products that are more profitable. |
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Quoted: That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. I do remember seeing a mock-up (or CGI?) of a "modern" Luger, which looked pretty badass. Someone will probably post it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I would guess it would be complex and expensive to manufacture, That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. I do remember seeing a mock-up (or CGI?) of a "modern" Luger, which looked pretty badass. Someone will probably post it. There is no way to make a cheap Luger. |
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Quoted: With SA bringing back the hi-power, would there be a market for the Luger in a similar guise, or is it obsolete and irrelevant? I would guess it would be complex and expensive to manufacture, but the SA P35 costs less than I expected. What do you guys think? I have never fired one, but always liked the looks. I don't even know anyone who owns one. View Quote Europeans don't know shit about handguns, and the the Luger Po8 was an officers dress sidearm for show, mostly. |
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Quoted: Quoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. Do a P38/P1 clone then. But why? P-1s are available for between $500-$600, usually less out in the wild.. Common code/year shooter Nazi P-38s...Under 1K. |
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I never liked the way they handle/shoot. Neat looking, sure. I lost all desire to ever own one once I shot one. |
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I've never been one for firearms that I don't have a real use for (my 300blk "pistol" being the one exception)... but I want a Luger.
A solid matching one with an original leather holster... a shooter, not a wall hanger, though. Now to decide if I want to spend the 3-4k for such a beast. |
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Quoted: Quoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. Do a P38/P1 clone then. I mean you could do that affordably, there’s just not a market for it. P1s and even Wehrmacht P38s are still relatively affordable and they don’t have the mystique of something like a Luger or Broomhandle. |
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I'm in a few groups with Hakan Spuhr and have seen some of his work. Lugers are things that take a lot of love and attention to detail but they definitely can be made with modern materials and machines.
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If you simply must needs have one, and have the coin, I'm sure you can have someplace with the requisite CNC 3d printing and machining capability run you off one. More likely than awaiting a production run. You will soon discover how much it sucks as a usable handgun design, but it's your money.
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Figure out how to convert a Ruger MKIV, would have to be blowback, probably not possible, but something I have rolled around in my head.
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Quoted: Lugers were thought to be too expensive to produce @$38. back in the 30's. That's from my poor memory of a Forgotten Weapons episode. View Quote This. And that was with the advantage of huge factories tooled up for volume production and relatively cheap labor. A modern repro would cost more than originals in excellent condition and few people would actually buy one. |
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Quoted: I don't think that's even possible, unless you were going to mount the RMR in front of the action. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Polymer with a light rail and RMR mount and I'm in! I don't think that's even possible, unless you were going to mount the RMR in front of the action. Drill and tap the barrel? Sweet. |
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Quoted: That's the reason, combined with the fact that demand would NOT be very high. The Luger is a neat design, but it's obviously not practical as a modern gun, so the people who value it for the nostalgia will still want an old/original one. I do remember seeing a mock-up (or CGI?) of a "modern" Luger, which looked pretty badass. Someone will probably post it. View Quote Attached File Attached File |
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Mitchell's made them about 30 years ago.
Not too popular and also collectable now. |
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Family bring back from World War One
tiny sights goofy steampunk operation means you really know when it’s empty feeds and shoots XTP JHP handloads like butter (Dillon XL650/powder check system) Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Quoted: I mean you could do that affordably, there’s just not a market for it. P1s and even Wehrmacht P38s are still relatively affordable and they don’t have the mystique of something like a Luger or Broomhandle. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: As already mentioned, it would be too expensive to manufacture. Guns in the Luger’s day, and the Luger in particular, needed a lot of really precise machine work done by hand. Remember, the Wehrmacht didn’t replace the Luger because it was a bad gun or they didn’t like it, it was just too expensive in comparison to other short recoil automatic pistols. 3D printing could and probably will eventually make reproductions of guns like that more economically viable. Do a P38/P1 clone then. I mean you could do that affordably, there’s just not a market for it. P1s and even Wehrmacht P38s are still relatively affordable and they don’t have the mystique of something like a Luger or Broomhandle. Come to think of it about the only scene in a movie I saw a P-38 in use was by Kruger in Cross of Iron....I'm sure there are others but it's the only one that comes to mind. About 4:20: Cross of Iron - Russian Infantry Attack |
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Quoted: lol It's okay to not know what you are talking about. You don't have to post and let everyone know. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Europeans don't know shit about handguns ... lol It's okay to not know what you are talking about. You don't have to post and let everyone know. I didn't mean to imply that there haven't been some nifty handguns designed and produced in Europe, but the PO8 Luger wasn't one. |
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Attached File Kalaschnikow Luger - Full Auto Test No. 1 www.waffen-werle.de Luger M4 Carbine - Full Auto Test with 50 rounds |
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"Should someone bring back the Luger....? "
Yes. Right after they bring back the crossbow. lol....nothing wrong with collecting old guns. I've got a P-38 myself. |
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I carried a P.08 for a while - really, the low capacity was the only practical disadvantage.
The original wood grips are fragile, though. |
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