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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:47:12 AM EST
[#1]
Army: Our new ACU sure does suck!
Air Force: Hold my golf club..... |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:48:33 AM EST
[#2]
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I just received my annual clothing allowance, which since the USAF is transitioning to OCP, skyrocketed up to $546. So I actually went and bought two sets and a pair of boots. I'd already had one set, belt, covers, belt, and patches. I'll say this, these damn things make way more sense than the ABU did and as someone who started out in BDUs I'm glad to have my patches back. What's crazy though is that in 15yrs of playing Air Force I'm now wearing my third uniform pattern 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:49:19 AM EST
[#3]
Patches?
We don’t need no stinking patches... |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:53:21 AM EST
[#4]
So you're saying I might be finding a flood of nice Gore-Tex ABU jackets at the local milsurp joint?
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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:53:34 AM EST
[#5]
Whats an OCP? What does it look like? Do you have an example pic? When I retired in 1998 we were still wearing BDUs and "trailways bus driver" class A's. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:56:03 AM EST
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I remember when we transitioned from cotton OD fatigues to nylon perma pressed fatigues. I can't imagine the crap you've put up with.
Does the "panty packers" (parachute unit) still sew the patches on for free? |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:57:02 AM EST
[#7]
Changing to new uniforms should cost the Service Members nothing, they should get a full allotment of clothing every time it's done.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 9:59:33 AM EST
[#8]
My 8 years in the Army I had BDUs, DCU, ACU, Multicam, and my company tested different patterns before the ACU came out.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 10:02:51 AM EST
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My first two years in the army we had cotton starchies. They were a pain to maintain but damn did they look good. Then we transitioned to permanent press and they looked like shit. About that time Carter decided that berets were too elitist for us and the 82nd and we had to switch to ball caps. Special Forces got to keep theirs.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 10:04:28 AM EST
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I've had BDU's, DCU's, ACU's, ABU's and now OCP's in nearly 21 years. Its comical how much money has been wasted on this stupid shit.
This is not counting all the extra shit like different weights, boots, socks, jackets of all types etc.. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 10:13:05 AM EST
[#11]
Started off with BDU's and got out around the time ABU's were mandatory, summer weight BDU's were the bees knees.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 10:13:46 AM EST
[#12]
Had to take wifey to Fairchild a few days ago to get a new ID card. Lots of people in OCP.
It's going to make outstanding hunting gear, hope the AF doesn't wait too long to go to the next pattern. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 10:14:29 AM EST
[#13]
I thought you might be NYPD and had water thrown on you twice today.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 10:21:07 AM EST
[#14]
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I've had BDU's, DCU's, ACU's, ABU's and now OCP's in nearly 21 years. Its comical how much money has been wasted on this stupid shit. This is not counting all the extra shit like different weights, boots, socks, jackets of all types etc.. Let’s also talk about all the Army PT and dress uniform changes the last 20 years. Generally speaking, such a waste of money. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:08:32 AM EST
[#15]
Or there ever any tactical gains from switching uniforms and such?
Or is the main reason just because some bigwig wanted to make a change just for sake of making a change or maybe because he knew someone and was giving them a shit ton of new sales with the new uniforms? |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:09:43 AM EST
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I started with pickle suits, then the permanent press, then the Elvis collar BDU, the summer weight BDU, chocolate chips, back to BDUs, DCUs, ACUs, then OCPs.
B uniform went from khaki, to the green shirt and A pants, but you couldn't wear the green shirt with your As, to the white shirt and blue pants where you could arrange shirt with ASUs. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:13:16 AM EST
[#17]
Laughs in Navy.
Wash Khakis, Blueberries (Aquaflage), now NWU (type 3) greenberries. Makes sense for those of use in offices and onboard ships. And theres already talk of a new uniform, before this one has been completely rolled out. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:17:37 AM EST
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Changing to new uniforms should cost the Service Members nothing, they should get a full allotment of clothing every time it's done. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:20:04 AM EST
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I started with B uniform went from 
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 Blue Ash company redesigns Army uniforms for a sleek throwback to WWII |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:26:10 AM EST
[#20]
I'm so glad I'll be retired before I have to buy another damn dress uniform
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:49:55 AM EST
[#21]
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Whats an OCP? What does it look like? Do you have an example pic? When I retired in 1998 we were still wearing BDUs and "trailways bus driver" class A's. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 11:53:57 AM EST
[#22]
pic of OCPs |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:06:02 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My uniform journey above and don't forget the "optional" pinks and greens are coming http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/img_7283.jpg https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/wzFT989b21Y_lKue94wq6VCPscA=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/U4FSASO46ZGO3LWG7SSXL3TLVM.jpg  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjPllnHPe68Hopefully they stick with it longer than a few years, the constant uniform changes are out of control across the services (excluding the USMC). |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:08:08 PM EST
[#24]
Brother has had four uniforms in the Army... BDU's, DCU's, ACU's, and now OCP. Plus the dress uniform changes. I suspect he won't have much choice about getting the new pinks and greens as soon as they're available since his next assignment is as an aide to a 3 star in an embassy.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:08:22 PM EST
[#25]
In the Corps your paycheck is also known as your clothing allowance.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:13:43 PM EST
[#26]
3rd..pfft cherry.
Pickle suit Jungles Elvis collar bdus Side draw tab bdus Tapered bdus Chocolate chips. 3 color dcus ACUs. OCP May a pox be on all these make these uniform decisions. Just issue OD green OCP cut uniforms an then have operational theater specific uniforms to be issued as needed. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:35:10 PM EST
[#27]
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https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/23/2002119553/-1/-1/0/190423-F-ZZ966-1119.JPG pic of OCPs 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:38:49 PM EST
[#28]
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In the Corps your paycheck is also known as your clothing allowance. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:47:05 PM EST
[#29]
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In my time there I never saw a clothing allowance that would buy a pair of boots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In the Corps your paycheck is also known as your clothing allowance. With your whole paycheck. Bi-monthly: 150.. 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:51:55 PM EST
[#30]
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https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/23/2002119553/-1/-1/0/190423-F-ZZ966-1119.JPG pic of OCPs I was in 04-10, started in bdus, bought a few abus. Nothing about the ABU made sense, literally one of the most retarded uniforms ever. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:53:35 PM EST
[#31]
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I think the Pink and Greens are an awesome throw back, much better looking than the green "Class A", they remind me of the USMC Service Alphas (a great looking uniform). Hopefully they stick with it longer than a few years, the constant uniform changes are out of control across the services (excluding the USMC). Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: My uniform journey above and don't forget the "optional" pinks and greens are coming http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/img_7283.jpg https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/wzFT989b21Y_lKue94wq6VCPscA=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/U4FSASO46ZGO3LWG7SSXL3TLVM.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjPllnHPe68Hopefully they stick with it longer than a few years, the constant uniform changes are out of control across the services (excluding the USMC). |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:54:56 PM EST
[#32]
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In the Corps your paycheck is also known as your clothing allowance. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:55:49 PM EST
[#33]
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In my time there I never saw a clothing allowance that would buy a pair of boots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In the Corps your paycheck is also known as your clothing allowance. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 12:59:29 PM EST
[#34]
Shit, the Navy is the worst of the branches when it comes to uniform changes. In 13 years we have changed multiple uniforms multiple time. It's like the top brass in charge of uniforms have alzheimers or something.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:00:03 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/23/2002119553/-1/-1/0/190423-F-ZZ966-1119.JPG pic of OCPs |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:01:35 PM EST
[#36]
Dude, your clothing allowance is almost as much as my net take home pay was in 1981 lol..
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:03:56 PM EST
[#37]
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I think the Pink and Greens are an awesome throw back, much better looking than the green "Class A", they remind me of the USMC Service Alphas (a great looking uniform). Hopefully they stick with it longer than a few years, the constant uniform changes are out of control across the services (excluding the USMC). |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:05:14 PM EST
[#38]
Seems like the government could save a lot of money if they just stuck with one uniform.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:06:21 PM EST
[#39]
Uniform number 3?
Russell Wilson?! 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:19:25 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Huh? There's always been a clothing allowance. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:29:10 PM EST
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What? I never received anything. Fuck you green weenie. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Huh? There's always been a clothing allowance. It was just lumped in to your direct deposit, it would have shown on your LES. If you were in before 2000, it may not have been a thing yet though. I'm not sure when they started it. (so I shouldn't have said there's always been one because I'm not sure when it started, but it's been at least 19 years). |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:40:39 PM EST
[#42]
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I'm a Marine and I love our uniforms, but I gotta admit the pink and greens are super classy. The Army should be doing everything they can to identify with the Army that won the European theater. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: My uniform journey above and don't forget the "optional" pinks and greens are coming http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/img_7283.jpg https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/wzFT989b21Y_lKue94wq6VCPscA=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/U4FSASO46ZGO3LWG7SSXL3TLVM.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjPllnHPe68Hopefully they stick with it longer than a few years, the constant uniform changes are out of control across the services (excluding the USMC). ETA: And also the effort the US Army put into the Pacific Campaign as well. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:46:21 PM EST
[#43]
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Totally agree. ETA: And also the effort the US Army put into the Pacific Campaign as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: My uniform journey above and don't forget the "optional" pinks and greens are coming http://soldiersystems.net/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/img_7283.jpg https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/wzFT989b21Y_lKue94wq6VCPscA=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/U4FSASO46ZGO3LWG7SSXL3TLVM.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjPllnHPe68Hopefully they stick with it longer than a few years, the constant uniform changes are out of control across the services (excluding the USMC). ETA: And also the effort the US Army put into the Pacific Campaign as well. 
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Posted: 8/2/2019 1:57:28 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are the shirt pockets on an angle and do you guys actually use them? |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 2:03:33 PM EST
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Changing to new uniforms should cost the Service Members nothing, they should get a full allotment of clothing every time it's done. |
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Posted: 8/2/2019 2:12:30 PM EST
[#46]
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Changing to new uniforms should cost the Service Members nothing, they should get a full allotment of clothing every time it's done.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 2:18:58 PM EST
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I got lucky, joined let enough to be first graduating class of 12B’s to get UCP’s. Fucking hate that half my other issued gear is UCP though. Kicks my CDO into overdrive.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 2:26:18 PM EST
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3rd..pfft cherry. Pickle suit Jungles Elvis collar bdus Side draw tab bdus Tapered bdus Chocolate chips. 3 color dcus ACUs. OCP May a pox be on all these make these uniform decisions. Just issue OD green OCP cut uniforms an then have operational theater specific uniforms to be issued as needed.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 2:30:09 PM EST
[#49]
Nice to have been in reserves and guard. DX for uniforms.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 2:37:43 PM EST
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Seems like the government could save a lot of money if they just stuck with one uniform. |
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