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Posted: 1/26/2018 11:48:08 PM EST
So who's gonna let something slip
 I know someone on here is on the list!
 Wolf Announces A1 SBR, and 9x39mm Uppers (Skip to 1:15 if you're not interested in their new T91 12.5" uppers) TL;DW: testing and evaluation uppers and ammo is set to be in the hands of the media types starting towards the end of next week. The hype is REAL  
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:01:11 AM EST
[#1]
I could probably get my hands on one...
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:01:49 AM EST
[#2]
What does this do better than 300bkl
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:02:35 AM EST
[#3]
Oh fuck no.
I want a goddamned Vintorez, is what I want. |
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:03:50 AM EST
[#4]
Maybe.....
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:13:01 AM EST
[#5]
Damn kinda looks like an AK and Sig 551 had a fuck fest. I like it.
Good looking rifle, and from what it sounds like that 9x39 will be awesome suppressed. |
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:13:22 AM EST
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Maybe..... That short Type 91 upper looks like fun, and I really don't care for piston driven or short ARs anymore. |
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:15:55 AM EST
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What does this do better than 300bkl Potential for greater subsonic performance with the right bullet (mostly the former) |
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:16:59 AM EST
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What does this do better than 300bkl |
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Posted: 1/27/2018 12:17:01 AM EST
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Maybe.....
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:16:02 PM EST
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What does this do better than 300bkl It's a military round designed to address the issues encountered on the battlefield with 200 grain 7.62x39mm subsonic ammunition. Basically it throws a larger diameter (.36 caliber) and heavier (278 grain) bullet. I spoke with the engineering team of one well known ammunition manufacturer well versed in the 300 BLK and they stated it would be much easier for them to produce effective subsonic expanding ammunition in 9x39 than 300 BLK as it was both larger in diameter and had more mass. They are also looking into doing supersonic ammunition for it as well. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:17:44 PM EST
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You had damn well better be. That short Type 91 upper looks like fun, and I really don't care for piston driven or short ARs anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe..... That short Type 91 upper looks like fun, and I really don't care for piston driven or short ARs anymore. Interested to see how that runs........especially suppressed........ |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:18:11 PM EST
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You better keep us in a very very very tight loop Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe..... |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:38:26 PM EST
[#13]
Cheap 278 grain subsonic ammo has my interests peaked!
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:44:09 PM EST
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What does this do better than 300bkl Well it is a significantly larger bullet. Also it doesn't have an army of fanboys howling about it. I'm interested in it because I really, really want a Vintorez. That or a Thunder. Not because it's the shit, but because it's a very interesting gun. And I'd take an AR15 in that caliber just to piss you off!
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:50:10 PM EST
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Also it doesn't have an army of fanboys howling about it.
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:52:17 PM EST
[#16]
Any word on the barrel lengths for 9X39?
I might be interested if it has okay performance out of very short barrels... |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 6:55:30 PM EST
[#17]
Will a 7.62x39 mag feed this 9x39 ammo? Is the back end of a 9x39 round identical to a 7.62x39?
If so, I have an idea |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 7:06:07 PM EST
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What does this do better than 300bkl 9x39 would be Ohio deer legal. Indiana as well I think. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 7:19:00 PM EST
[#19]
Didn't all Russian ammo just get sanctioned?
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Posted: 1/29/2018 7:20:49 PM EST
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Oh fuck no. I want a goddamned Vintorez, is what I want. CHEEKI BREEKI. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 7:37:59 PM EST
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This and an AS VAL. These were two of my favorite weapons in arma 2. CHEEKI BREEKI. Cheeki Breeki was from Stalker. You could get an AS VAL, VSS, and oTs14 in that one too. Damn those were great games... |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 7:40:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cheeki Breeki was from Stalker. You could get an AS VAL, VSS, and oTs14 in that one too. Damn those were great games...
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Posted: 1/29/2018 8:07:49 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 9x39 is straight walled. 300 BO is not. 9x39 would be Ohio deer legal. Indiana as well I think. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 8:08:49 PM EST
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You had damn well better be. That short Type 91 upper looks like fun, and I really don't care for piston driven or short ARs anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe..... That short Type 91 upper looks like fun, and I really don't care for piston driven or short ARs anymore. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 8:44:50 PM EST
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Didn't all Russian ammo just get sanctioned? |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:02:50 PM EST
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Any word on the barrel lengths for 9X39? I might be interested if it has okay performance out of very short barrels... |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:08:14 PM EST
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Will a 7.62x39 mag feed this 9x39 ammo? Is the back end of a 9x39 round identical to a 7.62x39? If so, I have an idea |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:09:38 PM EST
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I'm no 9x39 expert, but it sure doesnt look straight walled in the video. It's got a bottle neck on it. Is 223 Ohio legal? To my untrained eye, Gunwriter has actually played with genuine rounds so can correct, they look, again to me, like they share the same case as the 7.62x39 and are just necked up. If so, would those C-Products, or whatever they're called these days, magazines just work? |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:21:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Case head is the same but 9x39 has less case taper, more like 6.5 Grendel (IIRC). I'm betting 6.5 Grendel mags will be the ticket If I could do a barrel swap and use the same 7.62x39 BCG that would interesting. Somebody with one of those rounds on hand needs to stick it in an AK mag and tell us if it looks like it belongs. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:27:27 PM EST
[#30]
i would pay so many taxes to have a vss clone
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:31:17 PM EST
[#31]
I have the A1 upper... I'd love a 9x39 upper.
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:38:04 PM EST
[#32]
I would get a few uppers if ammo choices were decent
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:40:38 PM EST
[#33]
From wiki
 Attached FileBasic info: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9 
It's #5 
The gun originally made for it: the Ruskie Groza: 
Looks like the Ruskies also make this "Vintorez" rifle for that caliber too: http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=1105 Here is the gun: 
And here is a look at the highly-refined, advanced Soviet silencer core!
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:46:03 PM EST
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Does this round need a bigger suppressor than a 30?
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Posted: 1/29/2018 10:00:28 PM EST
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Does this round need a bigger suppressor than a 30? |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 10:25:15 PM EST
[#36]
I'm interested to see developments around this cartridge.
Anyone know if Wolf will ever bring us steel case 300 blackout? |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 10:48:26 PM EST
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Wiki indicates the bullet diameter is:
9.25mm which = .364" Closest Sierra bullet I see is a .358 diameter. Looks like reloading for this is a no-go. 
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Posted: 1/30/2018 2:05:41 AM EST
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Well it is a significantly larger bullet. Also it doesn't have an army of fanboys howling about it. I'm interested in it because I really, really want a Vintorez. That or a Thunder. Not because it's the shit, but because it's a very interesting gun. And I'd take an AR15 in that caliber just to piss you off! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What does this do better than 300bkl Also it doesn't have an army of fanboys howling about it. I'm interested in it because I really, really want a Vintorez. That or a Thunder. Not because it's the shit, but because it's a very interesting gun. And I'd take an AR15 in that caliber just to piss you off! |
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Posted: 1/30/2018 2:14:24 AM EST
[#39]
This doesn't sound like a cheap round.
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Posted: 1/30/2018 2:23:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know, I'm not an AR piston kinda guy at all.......but that short barrel Type 91/Wolf A1 upper is pretty neat. Interested to see how that runs........especially suppressed........ |
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Posted: 1/30/2018 2:56:51 AM EST
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That upper is rice.
Ed |
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Posted: 1/30/2018 4:58:07 AM EST
[#42]
Do want!
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Posted: 1/31/2018 12:03:36 AM EST
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Do you know if they're adjusting the gas port? Guy here SBRd one @12 or 11" and had to open it a bit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You know, I'm not an AR piston kinda guy at all.......but that short barrel Type 91/Wolf A1 upper is pretty neat. Interested to see how that runs........especially suppressed........ |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 12:19:16 AM EST
[#44]
i kinda want one depending on price and avaliablity of ammo but would prefer cheap steel 300bo so i dont have to stock yet another caliber
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Posted: 1/31/2018 12:23:04 AM EST
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This doesn't sound like a cheap round. |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 12:27:23 AM EST
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What does this do better than 300bkl |
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Posted: 1/31/2018 2:56:45 PM EST
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yes, they are adjusting gas port Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: You know, I'm not an AR piston kinda guy at all.......but that short barrel Type 91/Wolf A1 upper is pretty neat. Interested to see how that runs........especially suppressed........ |
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Posted: 2/1/2018 10:34:56 PM EST
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Please God, no stupid M4 profile barrel like the Grendel uppers.
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Posted: 2/1/2018 11:04:47 PM EST
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Oh fuck no. I want a goddamned Vintorez, is what I want. |
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Posted: 2/2/2018 9:19:01 PM EST
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I'm pretty excited for this. I know a few people who were going to buy .300brownout guns, but have put plans on hold because of this.
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